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getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!

 
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
Tough it out. Make your Mommy lock you in the basement if you have to to keep yourself from going out to hustle-up some more.
Puke that green bilious crap, poop black liquid, just don't do another hit no matter what--then you will have to start all over again.
The third day is the peak--after that it is just the bone deep ache/sweats/shivers.
You can do it.
I stopped 1-2 grams of Amsterdam/chinese "brown sugar" after ten+ daily-use years, going from a grain a day to a gram, and then more.Veins all shot out--still, 20 years later,they take blood from behind my knee when I need a blood test because my arm veins are all scarred and flat.
You control what you put in your hole. So control it. After you stop puking and pooping liquid, check out www.rational.org, read and accept--and never go back. Doesn't take but a bit to get strubg out again..
Good luck. Try "rational recovery"
No meetings, no whiney war stories. Just quit. Be done with it. Forget "recovery"
Forget "I'm an addict.
Quit and never indentify yourself, to yourself, as an "addict" with a "disease"
Get beyound it and never look back. Stay away from your using-junkie "friends"
Learn AVRT--addictive voice recognition training.
Get a life back.
Don't give in--YOU HAVE DONE YOUR LAST SHOT OF DOPE>
Forever. Not "one day at a time"
Forever.
If I could do it, you can do it.
geminilion
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
thanks everyone... means a lot... this shit is just terrible i am amazed i let it get to this...
 Quoting: AddictedToInfo


For me the "creepy crawleys", restless legs, and lack of sleep were the worst but there is a light at the end of the tunnel!

You'll wake up one day and feel great!
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
Heraclitus
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
suboxon ask your dr. about it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2052540


Buprenorphine sucks. Stay away from it. Just quit now, be done with it--and never mess around again
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thanks everyone... means a lot... this shit is just terrible i am amazed i let it get to this...
 Quoting: AddictedToInfo



Don't beat yourself up OP, it only fuels addiction..FORGIVE YOURSELF! I've been there OP...and many others have too! The one thing you saw many other recommend is kratom! Go get you some!


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ketum dot org. :)
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Can't get any sleep at all... withdrawling insanely... first day... this sucks so bad ....omfg... if anyone can throw out anything that will help me or just chat, im all ears...
 Quoting: AddictedToInfo


stay away from green tea. its a upper.

you need benedryl its a downer. and wont be addictive and will help with withdrawl!
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ketum dot org. :)
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LOL! Great stuff there! OP that site also sells BALI kratom...The 2 best kratoms are bali, and thai kratom...IMHO they have more effect for opium dependence in a resonable price range

however, the prices are much better at bouncing bear botanicals than ketum.org
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no one ever do this. its terrible it truly is a demonic force
 Quoting: AddictedToInfo


Yep...I've been there.

I can tell you this. When I had to withdrawal from it, the last thing I was thinking about was chatting on a computer.

Take a long nice bath, and try to relax your muscles. Muscle relaxers helped me out during that process.
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don't be a pussy man, just get rid of it. Imagine how early man conquered Europe even with all the dangers out there and no technology, they traversed across freezing cold lands in animal skin, hunted to survive, fought other predators to stay alive, they are your ancestors.

We can all achieve anything we set out to do and this heroin crap is what is stopping you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29610704


Shut up. And stay that way.

I guarantee if I kidnapped your silly ass, injected you with heroin for about 3 months or more, the only thing you'd be doing is begging for your next fix. You have NO IDEA on what you're talking about at all.

Pansies like you would break in half. Until you have an idea of what you're talking about...I would either do some research, or give advice somewhere where you have experience, 'cause it ain't here.

Heroin withdrawal can KILL YOU...so can alcohol withdrawal.

If you never got on it...GOOD for you. But, this redneck garbage advice of yours has about as much intellect in it as a rock.

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You can do it. Day three is usually the worst. Make sure someone knows were you are and atleast tell them your sick, ie flu, at minimum. If you can get to day 5 thats when the body starts to suffer less, but thats also when you realize that you just went through something truly difficult. It's like a major blow to your life force. Remember not to worry about how and why so much and don't be ashamed!

You can do it!
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Yeah no turning back now.

Your going to make it, the only thing between death and success is your will power.

Live damnit.
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I wonder if OP made it because the 1st days are the hardest when kicking any kind of drug. Your reason why to quit has to be more important than your reason why you use. You use because you are not rite inside and your soul is begging to be released for its full potential.

Quitting for a job does not seem like a good enough reason why and you will have other personal issues to deal with if and or when you get clean.

In any event, it is about manning up and stop whining because you have chills or are sick. You have made your bed and now you have to sleep in it because this is your Karma. Without pain, you will never gain.

What is better for you, life with some pain and sickness or death?
Regards,

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don't be a pussy man, just get rid of it. Imagine how early man conquered Europe even with all the dangers out there and no technology, they traversed across freezing cold lands in animal skin, hunted to survive, fought other predators to stay alive, they are your ancestors.

We can all achieve anything we set out to do and this heroin crap is what is stopping you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29610704


Shut up. And stay that way.

I guarantee if I kidnapped your silly ass, injected you with heroin for about 3 months or more, the only thing you'd be doing is begging for your next fix. You have NO IDEA on what you're talking about at all.

Pansies like you would break in half. Until you have an idea of what you're talking about...I would either do some research, or give advice somewhere where you have experience, 'cause it ain't here.

Heroin withdrawal can KILL YOU...so can alcohol withdrawal.

If you never got on it...GOOD for you. But, this redneck garbage advice of yours has about as much intellect in it as a rock.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1129812


No, you are wrong. Heroin withdrawal is seldom fatal, but alcohol is WAAAAAAAY worse to kick. iamwith

An alcoholic will take 30 days of sickness and no sleep to kick the habit and heroin addict can kick it in a few days to a week.
Regards,

Moe

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[link to www.LoanSafe.org] FIGHTING BIG BANKS!
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
I have been there many of times i feel for your my final time kicking the habit i withdrew in a coma so it made it alot easier. stick with it and kick it
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
There are allot of heroin/opiate users here.
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Tylenol PM will help you sleep if you can stomach it.
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There are allot of heroin/opiate users here.
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Yeah, I had the same thought. People tend to share much more readily if they can truly relate.
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dont give up man. I am coming up on two years clean and I have never felt better. stick it out
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best wishes OP
stay strong!

btw nice thread, shows the good side of GLP


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LOL..You know another cool thing about kratom?

The shamans used to use it, and it wakes you up to the universe, love, and an almost pagan form of spirituality..That's continued use of course..I don't know about occasional use..BUT, atleast I'm not on ANY narcotics now..

YOU CAN DO IT OP!!
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
Find a Narcotics Anonymous meeting. Folks will have good advice. Any community medical detox places in your area. Might have some Meds that would take the edge off. And if it's any consolation, heroin is physically less dangerous to kick than heavy alcohol. Alcohol detox often comes with seizures.
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
trust me if u want out of it . steal last score get high then rat em all and gtfo town.. u wont have a supply and or if u do stik around town u will die.. however i only did it for like 18 months and everything i knew went to crap anyways so its wat i did to get away from it
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The only thing worse than a thief is a snitch and you're both. I hope the people you fucked over find you and make you pay.
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Find a Narcotics Anonymous meeting. Folks will have good advice. Any community medical detox places in your area. Might have some Meds that would take the edge off. And if it's any consolation, heroin is physically less dangerous to kick than heavy alcohol. Alcohol detox often comes with seizures.
 Quoting: Little Bee


Heroin is terrible to come off of.

Stop comparing it too alcohol.

Heroin can also give you seizures, brain damage, hallucinations, delusions.

Destroy every internal organ you have.

Costs way more financially.

And H is cut so much, OP is coming down off more then just Heroin right now.
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dont give up man. I am coming up on two years clean and I have never felt better. stick it out
 Quoting: tatmark1


hf Good going! Not many people realize how hard it is to stay off the smack. I've known many addicts in my life but can count on one hand how many are still sober.
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
Heraclitus
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ibogaine
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^^

If you want something that will work for the rest of your life with just one dose, that is.
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ibogaine
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^^

If you want something that will work for the rest of your life with just one dose, that is.
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yeh apparently it's a tough call..shrug, props to you for not being blind.
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pains like you wouldnt believe... running nose sneezing feeling dizzy aching soo bad that I can't sleep one bit
 Quoting: AddictedToInfo


take heroin and it will get better
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Can't get any sleep at all... withdrawling insanely... first day... this sucks so bad ....omfg... if anyone can throw out anything that will help me or just chat, im all ears...
 Quoting: AddictedToInfo


you need ibogaine for an easy detox and receptor reset
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
Why don't you see if you can get a doctor to prescribe you Suboxone? It's not a magic pill but will take away the cravings and give you a chance to cut old ties, break old habits, and get your life together.

I kicked a Methadone habit with it and have it better now than I've ever had in my life. I only take 1mg-2mg Suboxone a day and that's enough to keep me on track. If you're eligible for Medicare and Medicaid it will pay for your doctor visits and your script will only cost you a small co-pay. A script of 30 strips costs me $6.50 and one 8mg strip lasts me about a week.
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
Considering I couldn't even get through the 'War of the Roses' when I was going through withdrawal of marriage all I can say is down the road I could appreciate the humor in the same show.

Most of my 'good advise' is most likely the same that got you into your predicament in the first place.

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