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getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!

 
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i know you can and will do this...don't cop out with other harmful drugs...search "auyuasca (spelling) for heroin". little late to take that route but will occupy you no less. i have researched it and big pharma does not want us to know about auyuasca and its ability to painlessly detox from heroin....congratulations...you are a man!
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Went cold turkey a year and a half ago after 2 and a halfyears on oxys. Worst experience of my life but worth it. I'll never touch that shit again.
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i know you can and will do this...don't cop out with other harmful drugs...search "auyuasca (spelling) for heroin". little late to take that route but will occupy you no less. i have researched it and big pharma does not want us to know about auyuasca and its ability to painlessly detox from heroin....congratulations...you are a man!
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I've seen reports of people using DMT for alcohol DT. I'm not surprised to see folks using Ayahuasca. It is likely more effective. There are recovery centers investigating the use of DMT as well. Anecdotal reports show a complete stop to withdrawal symptoms as well as no cravings whatsoever for about a week after use of the psychedelic. This was done in a carefully controlled environment, but these things are dissociative enough that it may not matter.
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Went cold turkey a year and a half ago after 2 and a halfyears on oxys. Worst experience of my life but worth it. I'll never touch that shit again.
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How long did it take for the physical withdrawls to be done?
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Can't get any sleep at all... withdrawling insanely... first day... this sucks so bad ....omfg... if anyone can throw out anything that will help me or just chat, im all ears...
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I weened myself off with methadone, very comfortable. No need to go through that hell man, it is the worst agony. you can get down to 2 mg in a short amount of time (relatively) and be done with that shit. Good luck
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you go through life not listening, doing what ever you want hurting everyone around you and now you can't figure this out on your own.

Good luck.

yoda
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12/12/2012 07:54 PM
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And we used "Clonidin"
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Works very well!
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Over the counter???



I get a check friday. so far my list of things to get is --- Immodium (ad or regular???)
Tylenol PM
Nyquil (works wonders)
Kratom if i can find it locally
Bennadryl
Bananas
LOTS OF WATER
Lots of aspirin
and 6 Vicodin to help me wean myself off the opiate itself...


WISH ME LUCK!!!! LOVE YOU ALL!
 Quoting: AddictedToInfo


This Clonidine is not unproblematic,
in fact it is dangerous Medicamentos,
please consult a Medicus in Advance
and talk with him,
please avoid my Tip when you have
a low Blood-Pressure!

But when everything is fine and your
Heart do not have any Problem this
Clonidine is the Nr. 1 Medication to
withdrawal Opioids and Opiates!
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
use coke to get off the heroine
use meth to get off the coke
use cherry 7up,xanax and lots of skittles to get of the meth
its a long road ahead...
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How are you doing today OP? I read your thread last night and have been thinking about you all day hoping you are doing well and making it through the day okay. YOU CAN DO THIS!! You are obviously a strong person to have made it this far.
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
i know you can and will do this...don't cop out with other harmful drugs...search "auyuasca (spelling) for heroin". little late to take that route but will occupy you no less. i have researched it and big pharma does not want us to know about auyuasca and its ability to painlessly detox from heroin....congratulations...you are a man!
 Quoting: anon 27703830


I've seen reports of people using DMT for alcohol DT. I'm not surprised to see folks using Ayahuasca. It is likely more effective. There are recovery centers investigating the use of DMT as well. Anecdotal reports show a complete stop to withdrawal symptoms as well as no cravings whatsoever for about a week after use of the psychedelic. This was done in a carefully controlled environment, but these things are dissociative enough that it may not matter.
 Quoting: Mycelium


I am not sure where you are, but find an ayahuasca group in your area and see if there is someone who can put you in touch with a shaman/healer/ayahuascero and try the medicine with an experienced leader and/or group. I don't expect that the journey will be ll that pleasant, but it will be profound ad healing. It is an amazing spirit medicine. You could also get into contact with the Native American Church and find a peyote shaman. Having done both many times, I believe ayahuasca would probably be better for your situation. I have known many people who have used heroin and have said that only ayahuasca was able to get them to eliminate the cravings.

Blessings to you. Wishing you a beautiful healing.
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
use coke to get off the heroine
use meth to get off the coke
use cherry 7up,xanax and lots of skittles to get of the meth
its a long road ahead...
 Quoting: hbsm 27406243


if you add alcohol to the very end that's where I'm at now. I'm out of drugs to replace. hopefully I'm done this stupid cycle soon.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

:ftwpanda:

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12/12/2012 08:13 PM
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KRATOM. I weened a friend of the junk with Kratom. 3-4 Cups of 2 TBS strength per day along with multiple physical actives and superfood smoothies. He came and stayed at my house (in the country) under my rules, and had no way of making any drug connections. After 12 days, the detox was complete as well as any suffering from any withdrawal symptoms. The biggest part of the success is that he wanted to be clean. Which he has been for 3 years running.
You don't hear to much about Kratom, but then again, if there was a cheap natural way to get off the junk, it would put the billion dollar rehap industry out of business.
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I wish you well brother


Don't give in

I'm sure you will be alright
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
use coke to get off the heroine
use meth to get off the coke
use cherry 7up,xanax and lots of skittles to get of the meth
its a long road ahead...
 Quoting: hbsm 27406243


if you add alcohol to the very end that's where I'm at now. I'm out of drugs to replace. hopefully I'm done this stupid cycle soon.
 Quoting: Dapurps


I study Addiction (Addictology) since more than
20 years and i can say that the overwhelming
majority of Addicts are addicted to Addiction!

When they stop Heroin they start to Drink,
with Alcohol comes a Party and more Alcohol
and with tooooo much Alcohol we can see
a lost of control and a backstep to Heroin!

The Withdrawal is the most easiest part
of a manifest Addiction,
the real work start when the Patients feel better!
Dapurps

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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
use coke to get off the heroine
use meth to get off the coke
use cherry 7up,xanax and lots of skittles to get of the meth
its a long road ahead...
 Quoting: hbsm 27406243


if you add alcohol to the very end that's where I'm at now. I'm out of drugs to replace. hopefully I'm done this stupid cycle soon.
 Quoting: Dapurps


I study Addiction (Addictology) since more than
20 years and i can say that the overwhelming
majority of Addicts are addicted to Addiction!

When they stop Heroin they start to Drink,
with Alcohol comes a Party and more Alcohol
and with tooooo much Alcohol we can see
a lost of control and a backstep to Heroin!

The Withdrawal is the most easiest part
of a manifest Addiction,
the real work start when the Patients feel better!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


Me being an addict I knew all this long time ago. its one thing studying addiction its another to actually live it. I've always known I'm addicted to addiction and self destruction.. I just gotta find a good addiction like music or something I love. its a rough battle but the more shit you go thru the higher you can achieve when you change your frame of mind.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

:ftwpanda:

dapurps
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
It take some time the neurosystem will cool down, see it as burned wiring..

When u stay clean , have good thoughts ur body will do what it is designed for,heal
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12/12/2012 08:34 PM
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don't know if OP is here or not...but

Kratom is reported to help people with opiate addictions very well because you noticeably feel a "high"
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12/12/2012 08:38 PM
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don't know if OP is here or not...but

Kratom is reported to help people with opiate addictions very well because you noticeably feel a "high"
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It takes ALL withdrawl symptoms away! IMHO

It's how I did it
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12/12/2012 08:40 PM
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
OP you can do it stay strong .... try to fill your time up with anything you can... anything ,laundry, cleaning ,yardwork, going out with friends....

also tell the honest people that you trust (the ones that love you) ..... it is much more relieving when you can be honest with those who you care about

YOU CAN DO IT

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Today I came clean to my father.. he is being very supportive... this will help me a lot I believe... all the pieces are falling in place- i am truly going to do this!
 Quoting: AddictedToInfo


This is good to hear my friend, that is exactly what I mean .... Even if one is incredibly strong its always better to have teammates ... the ones that truly love you won't push oyu away and will truly appreciate your honesty .... It shows alot of heart man

YOU CAN DO IT .... GOD ONLY PICKS THE VERY STRONG WHEN IT COMES TO THIS YOU HAVE A TON OF POTENTIAL ...

BRING YOUR LIGHT TO THE WORLD hfhf
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Maybe even find something you've been wanting to do with your dad for a while (watch a movie) (play guitar) (watch a football, basketball game) ... Play Chess .... Talk about history ..

anything .. .Cook Something ... Clean that yard, build that house improvement ...

Will Feel Even Better
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don't know if OP is here or not...but

Kratom is reported to help people with opiate addictions very well because you noticeably feel a "high"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27338283


It takes ALL withdrawl symptoms away! IMHO

It's how I did it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19497281


Because the Stuff inside of Kratom is docking
on the same Receptor like Opiates, this reduce
the Symptomes but extend the Withdawal,
it do not really help!

Ketamine works also very well
(because of the docking on a Opiate Receptor)
but only as long as you use it!

I think i would use Ibogaine and than moving
in to a Retreat for a long Time because
a Heroin Addiction need a long, very long Time,
in average more than 12,5 Years but every year
kills 10% of the User in the Statistics!
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
People talk about Clonidine being the gold standard to help calm withdrawal symptoms but there is another drug
Tizanidine or the brand name zanaflex that has less side effects.

That's not too say it doesn't any at all ts but these appear to be less in severity than Clonidine

There have been numerous studies using the drug for Withdrawal protocols and the majority who used it were able to get through the acute phase (10 Days) and a high percentage were able to stay off opiates/opioids indefinitely.


While it is classified as a muscle relaxant it has similar properties to Clonidine as it also acts as a alfa2 adreneregic agonist. It does not have the same affinity for the receptors that Clonidine has so it appears that it is tolerated better.

Definitely something to keep in mind when speaking with your Physician.
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Kratom
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I just got 8 xanax bars, a fifth of E&J, and found out i got this badass job ive been waiting for!!!! I slipped up today... but i will continue on tomorrow towards the path of purity!!!! wish me luck everyone n thanks so much for the feedback its VERY appreciated!!!!!
 Quoting: AddictedToInfo


Don't give up.....things will go your way just stay on the path hon.
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
Heraclitus
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And we used "Clonidin"
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Works very well!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


Over the counter???



I get a check friday. so far my list of things to get is --- Immodium (ad or regular???)
Tylenol PM
Nyquil (works wonders)
Kratom if i can find it locally
Bennadryl
Bananas
LOTS OF WATER
Lots of aspirin
and 6 Vicodin to help me wean myself off the opiate itself...


WISH ME LUCK!!!! LOVE YOU ALL!
 Quoting: AddictedToInfo


I would dump the vicodin, it will set you back.
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
Heraclitus
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
use coke to get off the heroine
use meth to get off the coke
use cherry 7up,xanax and lots of skittles to get of the meth
its a long road ahead...
 Quoting: hbsm 27406243


if you add alcohol to the very end that's where I'm at now. I'm out of drugs to replace. hopefully I'm done this stupid cycle soon.
 Quoting: Dapurps



try kratom! Kratom changed me, and I no longer do ANY narcotics...It's worth a try, cause IMHO alcohol was the worst for me..
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I know what you're going through...

I've been on methadone for a while. Two years ago, I ran out of my methadone and foolishly took about 20mg of Subutex less than 24 hours after my last dose of methadone. It precipitated the nastiest withdrawal I'd ever experienced as I hadn't made it more than a week or so without opiates and never had full-blown withdrawal. Ugh. That night was 3rd worst few hours of my life.

But it goes away, gets better. Something I was given for withdrawals back before I got on methadone was clonidine, a hypertension drug which which helps get rid of anxiety, the crawly feeling, the kicking, and the goosebump omg-burning up/omg-freezing alternations. They also gave me Seroquel for sleep. It's non habit forming, but it's main use is as an atypical anti-psychotic...so it worked but I was afraid to take it for more than a couple days.

Both of those things will help, and as they're non-scheduled drug you'll be able to get them if you just ask the doc. I was also given something for the nasty stomach cramping, and prescription ibuprofen for the aches. There's nothing shameful about getting a little help to ease the pain.
Really?really?

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Heard a guy say will power gets stronger every time you use it.
Really?really?
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Re: getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!!
Use dextromethorphan to relieve some of the symptoms of the withdrawal.
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Proud of ya, Bud!!! Have been told how difficult it is to do. My brother is still out in the world doing this. He's tried, but the hold it gets, again, being told by him, is so incredible that he cares for nothing or no one (2 daughters, one,(new) grand son) but his next hit.

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