getting clean off heroin....any suggestions or just friendly chat? cant sleep!!! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26912620 United States 12/12/2012 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | also tell the honest people that you trust (the ones that love you) ..... it is much more relieving when you can be honest with those who you care about YOU CAN DO IT |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25390958 United States 12/12/2012 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ibogaine will help u. i hope u have some alternative treatment in us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12089541 illegal in US but not in canada or mexico or most places. the rootbark should be cheap and can be ordered to places where it's not illegal, IDK if it will sneak into states or not without repacking, check erowid to see recommendations for how some use it. The pure hcl salt is expensive and IDK why, the commercial detoxes are not cheap because they babysit you, the hcl salt can be made from the rootbark with little trouble. I wish someone with some actual experience would pipe up and represent, although plenty on ytube. You have to respect some plant that serves as a religion It's trippy but those I talked to thought it was a miracle |
geminilion User ID: 12895036 United States 12/12/2012 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You must cut your ties. In my experience, the whole ,"your an addict thing forever attitude" did not help me, just made me feel like a turd. People that have never gotten sick like that will never understand. The thing is, opiates make you feel so much better, but the price is too steep and it beats the shit out of you man. You can do it. The hardest part for me was trying to get sleep. Every time I tried to get sleep another ache or hotflas etc would creep in, or being so hot then so cold, plus the emotional torment. That crap chokes out the soul. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17256823 Bottom line, cut your ties! You're right my friend..there's no chance of success unless you cut people out of your life...keep the supportive ones and don't hang out or go into areas where you used to cop. ..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way." Heraclitus |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29576235 United States 12/12/2012 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | don't be a pussy man, just get rid of it. Imagine how early man conquered Europe even with all the dangers out there and no technology, they traversed across freezing cold lands in animal skin, hunted to survive, fought other predators to stay alive, they are your ancestors. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29610704 We can all achieve anything we set out to do and this heroin crap is what is stopping you. Shut up. And stay that way. I guarantee if I kidnapped your silly ass, injected you with heroin for about 3 months or more, the only thing you'd be doing is begging for your next fix. You have NO IDEA on what you're talking about at all. Pansies like you would break in half. Until you have an idea of what you're talking about...I would either do some research, or give advice somewhere where you have experience, 'cause it ain't here. Heroin withdrawal can KILL YOU...so can alcohol withdrawal. If you never got on it...GOOD for you. But, this redneck garbage advice of yours has about as much intellect in it as a rock. Heroin withdrawal cannot kill you--but benzo withdrawal and ac\lcohol can |
AddictedToInfo (OP) User ID: 26817230 United States 12/12/2012 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just got 8 xanax bars, a fifth of E&J, and found out i got this badass job ive been waiting for!!!! I slipped up today... but i will continue on tomorrow towards the path of purity!!!! wish me luck everyone n thanks so much for the feedback its VERY appreciated!!!!! TheOne |
AddictedToInfo (OP) User ID: 26817230 United States 12/12/2012 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP you can do it stay strong .... try to fill your time up with anything you can... anything ,laundry, cleaning ,yardwork, going out with friends.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26912620 also tell the honest people that you trust (the ones that love you) ..... it is much more relieving when you can be honest with those who you care about YOU CAN DO IT Today I came clean to my father.. he is being very supportive... this will help me a lot I believe... all the pieces are falling in place- i am truly going to do this! TheOne |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29256427 Japan 12/12/2012 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @ Op., visit Drugs-Forum.com [link to www.drugs-forum.com] And Ganbare, a Heroin-Addiction should be just a Episode but not a reason to Die! |
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AddictedToInfo (OP) User ID: 26817230 United States 12/12/2012 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Over the counter??? I get a check friday. so far my list of things to get is --- Immodium (ad or regular???) Tylenol PM Nyquil (works wonders) Kratom if i can find it locally Bennadryl Bananas LOTS OF WATER Lots of aspirin and 6 Vicodin to help me wean myself off the opiate itself... WISH ME LUCK!!!! LOVE YOU ALL! TheOne |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 12/12/2012 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just got 8 xanax bars, a fifth of E&J, and found out i got this badass job ive been waiting for!!!! I slipped up today... but i will continue on tomorrow towards the path of purity!!!! wish me luck everyone n thanks so much for the feedback its VERY appreciated!!!!! Quoting: AddictedToInfo Keep at it... The people who read your story here are pulling for you. |
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AddictedToInfo (OP) User ID: 26817230 United States 12/12/2012 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Over the counter??? I get a check friday. so far my list of things to get is --- Immodium (ad or regular???) Tylenol PM Nyquil (works wonders) Kratom if i can find it locally Bennadryl Bananas LOTS OF WATER Lots of aspirin and 6 Vicodin to help me wean myself off the opiate itself... WISH ME LUCK!!!! LOVE YOU ALL! and Magnesium and Melatonin TheOne |
AddictedToInfo (OP) User ID: 26817230 United States 12/12/2012 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just got 8 xanax bars, a fifth of E&J, and found out i got this badass job ive been waiting for!!!! I slipped up today... but i will continue on tomorrow towards the path of purity!!!! wish me luck everyone n thanks so much for the feedback its VERY appreciated!!!!! Quoting: AddictedToInfo Keep at it... The people who read your story here are pulling for you. Especially those who understand how extremely difficult this is... its terrible... I can do this though!!! This is a mass-consciousness experiment... I am a white male, mid twenties, dark hair blue eyes 0---- Everyone visualize me getting cleaned up of this!!! I will greatly appreciate it! Consciousness controls reality TheOne |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 12/12/2012 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just got 8 xanax bars, a fifth of E&J, and found out i got this badass job ive been waiting for!!!! I slipped up today... but i will continue on tomorrow towards the path of purity!!!! wish me luck everyone n thanks so much for the feedback its VERY appreciated!!!!! Quoting: AddictedToInfo Keep at it... The people who read your story here are pulling for you. Especially those who understand how extremely difficult this is... its terrible... I can do this though!!! This is a mass-consciousness experiment... I am a white male, mid twenties, dark hair blue eyes 0---- Everyone visualize me getting cleaned up of this!!! I will greatly appreciate it! Consciousness controls reality I'm sending some positive thoughts/vibes your direction. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26307765 United States 12/12/2012 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ibo or taper off drastically... vicodin man your substitutin... ive been on vics for a crush injury for well since 94 ... gettin off vics is the same... TAPER .. and be true to THIS.... slippin NO NEVER AGAIN MAN..... I cold turkey twice ayr , to get my resistance to pain killers down agin... my g*d what a fked up cycle ... i wont say life sux , but you know what i mean.. ya feel like a weak little girl dont ya? ! .. wish id slept in THAT day.... the accident happened .. the pain is SOOOO BAD , but i got kids an a wife and cant take the easy way out or i sure would!... docs gave me morphine today , but the pharm has to spec arder it... to many yrs of aspirin,,, in the vics... but HAPPY christmas ma man... YOU CAN DO IT! BRO .. YOU CAN.... TAPER OFF BRO..... |
AddictedToInfo (OP) User ID: 26817230 United States 12/12/2012 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i can tell im still detoxing cuz i used a tiny tiny bit today. but just enough to kill the WD symptoms for a bit... used @ 1:30.... 4:30 symptoms returning.... knees aching.. back aching... took 2 xanax bars feeling awesome not a care in the world. on 0 hours of sleep in past 30+ hours of days... Tonight i will probably get at least 5 solid hours of sleep.... tomorrow will be HELL- taking xanax all day... Friday will be a little easier I am going to get a few vicodin.... and other supplies i mentioned. Then that will be 3 days without barely any use. another 2-3 days of hell and I should be able to cope with it simply with natural remedies... WISH ME LUCK TheOne |
AddictedToInfo (OP) User ID: 26817230 United States 12/12/2012 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ibo or taper off drastically... vicodin man your substitutin... ive been on vics for a crush injury for well since 94 ... gettin off vics is the same... TAPER .. and be true to THIS.... slippin NO NEVER AGAIN MAN..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26307765 I cold turkey twice ayr , to get my resistance to pain killers down agin... my g*d what a fked up cycle ... i wont say life sux , but you know what i mean.. ya feel like a weak little girl dont ya? ! .. wish id slept in THAT day.... the accident happened .. the pain is SOOOO BAD , but i got kids an a wife and cant take the easy way out or i sure would!... docs gave me morphine today , but the pharm has to spec arder it... to many yrs of aspirin,,, in the vics... but HAPPY christmas ma man... YOU CAN DO IT! BRO .. YOU CAN.... TAPER OFF BRO..... Thanks! will do! and yes i feel like a little bitch!!! i use to be so so strong! I will regain my strength soon enough though.. I feel like 10 days off this shit 100% and ill be GOOD TheOne |
C'mon User ID: 28686070 United States 12/12/2012 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't use more drugs to help the other one. That's just a crutch, and you will be doing the same thing over and over. Get a support group IRL. If you really want to kick this...you need to surround yourself with people that want you to succeed. No user friends or family. It will be hard for a while. You need to and must WANT to stay strong. Drink your juice and snack...then go for a walk or run. No pills or a small bit to take the edge off. It won't help you in the end. |
Dapurps User ID: 26604792 Canada 12/12/2012 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ibo or taper off drastically... vicodin man your substitutin... ive been on vics for a crush injury for well since 94 ... gettin off vics is the same... TAPER .. and be true to THIS.... slippin NO NEVER AGAIN MAN..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26307765 I cold turkey twice ayr , to get my resistance to pain killers down agin... my g*d what a fked up cycle ... i wont say life sux , but you know what i mean.. ya feel like a weak little girl dont ya? ! .. wish id slept in THAT day.... the accident happened .. the pain is SOOOO BAD , but i got kids an a wife and cant take the easy way out or i sure would!... docs gave me morphine today , but the pharm has to spec arder it... to many yrs of aspirin,,, in the vics... but HAPPY christmas ma man... YOU CAN DO IT! BRO .. YOU CAN.... TAPER OFF BRO..... Thanks! will do! and yes i feel like a little bitch!!! i use to be so so strong! I will regain my strength soon enough though.. I feel like 10 days off this shit 100% and ill be GOOD please don't taper off. its just a trap I fell for many times. cold turkey is they way to go. it'll reduce your chances of relapse if you reflect on the hell heroin caused you when quiting. cold turkey and detox the hell out of yourself. itl be worse but won't last as long. the quicker it leaves your system the better. I quit coldturkey 4 months ago and haven't looked back. Last Edited by Dapurps on 12/12/2012 05:44 PM "What you perceive to be becomes your reality." :ftwpanda: dapurps |
TheCartel User ID: 29735768 United States 12/12/2012 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ibo or taper off drastically... vicodin man your substitutin... ive been on vics for a crush injury for well since 94 ... gettin off vics is the same... TAPER .. and be true to THIS.... slippin NO NEVER AGAIN MAN..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26307765 I cold turkey twice ayr , to get my resistance to pain killers down agin... my g*d what a fked up cycle ... i wont say life sux , but you know what i mean.. ya feel like a weak little girl dont ya? ! .. wish id slept in THAT day.... the accident happened .. the pain is SOOOO BAD , but i got kids an a wife and cant take the easy way out or i sure would!... docs gave me morphine today , but the pharm has to spec arder it... to many yrs of aspirin,,, in the vics... but HAPPY christmas ma man... YOU CAN DO IT! BRO .. YOU CAN.... TAPER OFF BRO..... Thanks! will do! and yes i feel like a little bitch!!! i use to be so so strong! I will regain my strength soon enough though.. I feel like 10 days off this shit 100% and ill be GOOD please don't taper off. its just a trap I fell for many times. cold turkey is they way to go. it'll reduce your chances of relapse if you reflect on the hell heroin caused you when quiting. cold turkey and detox the hell out of yourself. itl be worse but won't last as long. the quicker it leaves your system the better. I quit coldturkey 4 months ago and haven't looked back. Agree 100% tapering is a pitfall |
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Mycelium User ID: 17882166 United States 12/12/2012 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I came off Methadone, cold turkey, I developed an herbal protocol to alleviate symptoms. It worked as well as Clonidine, for me. Since then, I have helped tens of folks with opiate withdrawal and would be happy to share it with you, if you are interested, OP. My heart goes out to you. Crying helps. I always felt better after a good sob. have someone bring you some Imodium, too. I didn't read the thread, but will later. Sorry if my comments are no longer relevant. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22017972 United States 12/12/2012 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DONT STOP YOU are almost there OP. |
Dapurps User ID: 26604792 Canada 12/12/2012 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I came off Methadone, cold turkey, I developed an herbal protocol to alleviate symptoms. It worked as well as Clonidine, for me. Since then, I have helped tens of folks with opiate withdrawal and would be happy to share it with you, if you are interested, OP. Quoting: Mycelium My heart goes out to you. Crying helps. I always felt better after a good sob. have someone bring you some Imodium, too. I didn't read the thread, but will later. Sorry if my comments are no longer relevant. Methadone is brutal. detoxing off take takes much longer then heroin. The pain is so deep in your skin too. "What you perceive to be becomes your reality." :ftwpanda: dapurps |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29739537 United States 12/12/2012 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I came off Methadone, cold turkey, I developed an herbal protocol to alleviate symptoms. Quoting: Mycelium Does this include hawthorne? That can really help with the rapid heart rate and sweating. "Hawthorn (Crataegus species) has been used to treat heart disease as far back as the 1st century. By the early 1800s, American doctors were using it to treat circulatory disorders and respiratory illnesses. Traditionally, the berries were used to treat heart problems ranging from irregular heartbeat, high blood pressure, chest pain, hardening of the arteries, and heart failure. Today, the leaves and flowers are used medicinally, and there is some research that suggests that hawthorn might be effective when used in the treatment of mild to moderate heart failure, but there has not been enough research to know how effective it may be." Source: [link to www.umm.edu] Follow us: @UMMC on Twitter | MedCenter on Facebook |
Mycelium User ID: 17882166 United States 12/12/2012 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I came off Methadone, cold turkey, I developed an herbal protocol to alleviate symptoms. Quoting: Mycelium Does this include hawthorne? That can really help with the rapid heart rate and sweating. "Hawthorn (Crataegus species) has been used to treat heart disease as far back as the 1st century. By the early 1800s, American doctors were using it to treat circulatory disorders and respiratory illnesses. Traditionally, the berries were used to treat heart problems ranging from irregular heartbeat, high blood pressure, chest pain, hardening of the arteries, and heart failure. Today, the leaves and flowers are used medicinally, and there is some research that suggests that hawthorn might be effective when used in the treatment of mild to moderate heart failure, but there has not been enough research to know how effective it may be." Source: [link to www.umm.edu] Follow us: @UMMC on Twitter | MedCenter on Facebook I use Passionflower for the heart rate, BP, and that awful feeling when you feel your pulse in your throat (related to BP. It is central to the protocol. After the acute phase, switch Passionflower for Hawthorne and use the PF as needed. Hawthorne is more tonic in nature and better for long term than acute stuff. Incidentally, the Passionflower works so well that I now use it for Preeclampsia on the midwifery side of my practice. |