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No Xmas presents this year for my kids

 
INK3

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12/12/2012 08:24 AM
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OP, if your kids are very young, maybe you could get them at least one present to open. Thrift store, consignment shop? A charity maybe?

I opted out of major gift giving several years ago, but my kids are adults now. We celebrate by making and baking gifts for each other and friends, put up a Christmas tree, have a nice meal together. It is so much more enjoyable than the frantic, cash wasting ways of many people I know.

Last year I knitted scarves for everyone, and they loved them.

Anyway, Merry Christmas!
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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12/12/2012 08:42 AM
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The problem with society today is, kids have gotten far too much, too young and it's a case of peer pressure and follow the leader in gadgets etc.

If you have started off following this trend, it's gonna be as hard weaning them off those presents as it would trying to reason with a heroin addict needing a fix.

My Christmas was all about not knowing what I was getting, yet I knew that what I did get, would be inexpensive in the main and sometimes second hand but that was then.

I brought my kids up to appreciate what they get and in the main they do appreciate what they get and I did go overboard with presents as I wanted them to enjoy opening many presents, yet obviously they weren't all expensive gadgets.

Maybe 1 was expensive, like a play station or something like that.

The problem is, in just a decade later, gadgets have saturated the world, with phones, kindles, I.pads, note books, you name it...and they're all expensive, not to mention the named clothes brands.

Unfortunately, this is a major problem that parents face because it's a vicious circle.

What happens is... those who got little or nothing at Christmas, grow up with the attitude of, " I will make sure my kids get what I wanted or didn't get" and so the trend continues until those kids have become demanding and expectant as well as unappreciative of anything they do get, no matter how expensive it is , or what sacrifices the parent shave made to make sure they get what they want.

When that child grows up and has kids of their own, they then pander to their own spoiled kids needs and will try and outdo the Jones family and it becomes about who has the best of this and that...it's as much bragging rights for the parents as it is for the street cred of the kids.

Obviously not all people are like this..but I think you get my meaning.
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12/12/2012 08:51 AM
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Re: No Xmas presents this year for my kids
I am not here for handouts, it is just a pity that society has brainwashed our kids of having presents on Xmass
 Quoting: DutchBigBoy




You've allowed it.

Giving of your time this time of year goes a long long way in teaching your children the value of being a compassionate person.

They will have more to share than others when going back to school.

They will have memories of helping those less fortunate not of a gift that will break within a year.
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12/12/2012 08:57 AM

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If your kids don't understand now they surely will understand as they get older. So don't fret about that.

Try and plan some type of activity for the family to engage in. Something fun and enjoyable that will be a fond memory for your children. Toys always break and get replaced and thrown out. Memories last forever.

When the other children are commenting on their gifts at school, your children will relay the bonding and fun times they shared with their family. Be creative and try and make the holiday about what it should really be about. When your kids are adults they will look back and be thankful for the example you set for them.

goofy thum
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Excellent suggestion and sentiments Anhedonic!

Hope the OP takes heed - and others as well.hf
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12/12/2012 08:58 AM
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Re: No Xmas presents this year for my kids
We went through a similar situation a few years ago. We had to tap into our Christmas savings and there wasn't much left. We, as parents, had our sad moments, but made it through. We just put more emphasis on being together and doing things as a family. Our older children were willing to sacrifice so our youngest could have more. Our son, who's now in college, says that was one of best the Christmas's we ever had, and a lot of new traditions started with that year. hf
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12/12/2012 09:04 AM
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When I was on unemployment we still managed to get the kids something for xmas. Needs to be done...
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We went through a similar situation a few years ago. We had to tap into our Christmas savings and there wasn't much left. We, as parents, had our sad moments, but made it through. We just put more emphasis on being together and doing things as a family. Our older children were willing to sacrifice so our youngest could have more. Our son, who's now in college, says that was one of best the Christmas's we ever had, and a lot of new traditions started with that year. hf
 Quoting: Melrox


Way to go!

It's funny, but even though my kids got quite a lot of presents when they were growing up (most of them inexpensive), my daughter and her husband are not showering their kids with gifts. I guess they felt they had enough, and aren't trying to make up for it. They celebrate simply, and their Christmas traditions are wonderful. Also, their kids aren't spoiled, entitled little monsters.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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12/12/2012 09:11 AM
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I am not here for handouts, it is just a pity that society has brainwashed our kids of having presents on Xmass
 Quoting: DutchBigBoy


"Xmas" is exactly what society says it is - a hedonistic exposition of consumerism.

"Christmas" - the holyday it seems you *want* to celebrate - has nothing to do with what we see today. It seems you have already allowed your children to be condition to expect presents, and therefore it is your fault if they feel sad about other children "bragging" about what they received.

You are complicit in their brainwashing by failing to rear them with the proper worldview.

My children were raised from birth to know that Christmas is about Christ and the Lamb of God tabernacling among us.

Simultaneously we let them know that "Xmas" and Santa is all about paganism, the altar of Molech, and selfishness.

Most evils and perils of this day are the direct result of a failure of the parents. We must stop blaming society and take responsibility for our own children.

I truly wish you a good Christmas, and pray that you are able to honor our creator and redeem this season for Christ. If He is in your heart and your children's hearts, the problems of gifts and envy will not exist.
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12/12/2012 09:12 AM
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Re: No Xmas presents this year for my kids
buy food for them. in case of emergeny you can eat them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29693402


I didn't want to laugh at this, but I did LOL.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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12/12/2012 09:14 AM
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Re: No Xmas presents this year for my kids
When I was on unemployment we still managed to get the kids something for xmas. Needs to be done...
 Quoting: tangoman55


yeah, same here - especially of they are young. it would break my heart and i would almost die of guilt if my kids had NOTHING to open on christmas morning

i always see glp'ers talking about 'spoiled brats' but its not black n white like that

you dont have to spoil your kids, and most parents actually dont

my 11 year old has a friend who gets everything all the time - i wonder what's left to get for christmas and birthday?! so, he says 'everyone has a phone' - i explain that he doesnt need one until he is out n about, and that its ridiculous to have one at his age. his big bro didnt get one til he was 16 and even now he doesnt use it much

its about instilling in your kids what is right, about appreciation and counting their blessings

just because you participate in the 'consumerism' of christmas doesnt mean you spoil you kids, to suggest otherwise is just being disingenuous
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12/12/2012 09:16 AM
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Re: No Xmas presents this year for my kids
Sorry about your plight op, truly I am, but think this needs to be pointed out, and it is basically the same here in the US. This lady seems to be doing just fine:


While many families are worrying about how to afford Christmas this year, one jobless single mother has revealed she receives so much in benefits she has £2,000 to spend on designer gifts, clothes and partying.

[link to www.zerohedge.com]
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12/12/2012 09:17 AM
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Re: No Xmas presents this year for my kids
I am not here for handouts, it is just a pity that society has brainwashed our kids of having presents on Xmass
 Quoting: DutchBigBoy


As parents, it's also OUR fault for reinforcing the whole consumerism on Christmas......not everyone gets Christmas presents....
We have cut down on spending a lot the last 3 years and the next 3 look just as slim. Our kids are okay with it. They understand that life is not about how much junk you own but how many people love you.
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12/12/2012 09:17 AM
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Re: No Xmas presents this year for my kids
Even at my poorest when the kids were young back in the late '70's, I still managed to pull together Christmas for then.

It doesn't have to cost a lot, and the being together is priceless.
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12/12/2012 09:19 AM
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Visit thrift stores, ask friends about used items. Most people would be happy to help. Craigslist has some free exchange things I believe.
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12/12/2012 09:22 AM
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Visit thrift stores, ask friends about used items. Most people would be happy to help. Craigslist has some free exchange things I believe.
 Quoting: Fred 29293291

One persons junk is another persons treasure, so swallow the pride and get the kids second hand items in good as new condition.
It makes the kids happy and you happy, knowing that they are happy, which makes for an affordable and enjoyable Christmas.
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Visit thrift stores, ask friends about used items. Most people would be happy to help. Craigslist has some free exchange things I believe.
 Quoting: Fred 29293291

One persons junk is another persons treasure, so swallow the pride and get the kids second hand items in good as new condition.
It makes the kids happy and you happy, knowing that they are happy, which makes for an affordable and enjoyable Christmas.
 Quoting: ice_cold

Thrift stores are the bomb! My little one will be getting a collection of Dr. Seuss hardbacks for Christmas. I bought them from the Goodwill they had a 50% off books sale. Perfect condition! Would run over $150 in the store, I got them for $7.50. Hell yeah!
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12/12/2012 09:39 AM
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Re: No Xmas presents this year for my kids
My kids are 9 and 11 and aren't spoiled so they understand that food goes before presents.

It is just the mindf*ck of giving presents by this consuming civilization which makes them mad with all the adds on TV.

They know that we will make it up for them in another way.
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Visit thrift stores, ask friends about used items. Most people would be happy to help. Craigslist has some free exchange things I believe.
 Quoting: Fred 29293291

One persons junk is another persons treasure, so swallow the pride and get the kids second hand items in good as new condition.
It makes the kids happy and you happy, knowing that they are happy, which makes for an affordable and enjoyable Christmas.
 Quoting: ice_cold

Thrift stores are the bomb! My little one will be getting a collection of Dr. Seuss hardbacks for Christmas. I bought them from the Goodwill they had a 50% off books sale. Perfect condition! Would run over $150 in the store, I got them for $7.50. Hell yeah!
 Quoting: Melrox
Excellent. That's what I call shopping about.

The only difference between kids having and not having is merely time.
Wait a while like you have and your kids get everything other kids get, except maybe a bit later but so what, they still get the same enjoyment.

It's like kids having an ice cream cone and you tell your kid , "you can't have one yet"... 15 minutes later, your kid is licking his/her ice cream whilst the other kids have none.
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LOL I clicked on this thinking it was a ttown thread...

Op, this might be one of the best Christmas seasons you've ever had with your family..

I understand the dilemma and concern for the children since we have all played into the materialistic brainwashing of the holiday..but, they will look back and laugh and reminisce about the memories...It will be ok...;)


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Re: No Xmas presents this year for my kids
My kids are 9 and 11 and aren't spoiled so they understand that food goes before presents.

It is just the mindf*ck of giving presents by this consuming civilization which makes them mad with all the adds on TV.

They know that we will make it up for them in another way.
 Quoting: DutchBigBoy



Take responsibility for what enters your children's eye- and ear-gates.

Supervise and limit their TV viewing. Or trash that idiot tube entirely.
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To sum up, your kids will be getting no Christmas presents because you are too fucking lazy to both making any for those brats you wished were dead/gone.

I certainly understand better now why Hansel and Gretl were taken out to the woods and abandoned - I guess their parents must have been Dutch.
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I remember once when I was a kid. There were no presents because my mother and father told me that Santa was arrested for breaking into someone's house when he found that their chimney was blocked, so Santa, thinking he's immune to prosecution, goes and kicks in the front door, busting the door.

I went down to the police station aged 4 on that dark night in my Rupert the Bear slippers and pyjamas with a carrot and some cake and milk and asked to see Santa.

The desk officer asked me which one, as they had picked up 12 of them, all drunk.

I said, the one with the reindeers.
He said Santa isn't real and to piss off home and stop being stupid.

I went home devastated and beat my father up and robbed him of his wallet.

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My kids won't have any xmas presents for the first time, Th crisis is really taken it's toll.

1dunno11dunno11dunno1


wtf
 Quoting: DutchBigBoy


You will still file income taxes, right? Go to H & R Block and get the Emerald Advance. If it weren't for that, mine wouldn't have Christmas either - my husband has only been able to get temp jobs for about a year now, and my job pays the bills.
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Edited due to the fact I just saw you are not in the states - so sorry. If I had the funds, I'd wire you money. I know how hard it is to look at your babies and wonder how the hell they'll be fed and clothed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Lady


This is what's wrong with Christmas! Your tax return should get put back for a rainy day, it sounds like the past year has been rainy right?
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Re: No Xmas presents this year for my kids
My kids won't have any xmas presents for the first time, Th crisis is really taken it's toll.

1dunno11dunno11dunno1


wtf
 Quoting: DutchBigBoy


You will still file income taxes, right? Go to H & R Block and get the Emerald Advance. If it weren't for that, mine wouldn't have Christmas either - my husband has only been able to get temp jobs for about a year now, and my job pays the bills.
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Edited due to the fact I just saw you are not in the states - so sorry. If I had the funds, I'd wire you money. I know how hard it is to look at your babies and wonder how the hell they'll be fed and clothed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Lady


This is what's wrong with Christmas! Your tax return should get put back for a rainy day, it sounds like the past year has been rainy right?
 Quoting: andawg221


Also tax returns i got from the last 3 years i have to pay back too. They said they had filed me wrong so now it is back to start.
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Re: No Xmas presents this year for my kids
Go to Rev Billy Stop Shopping Church Site. We watch his video every Black Friday for the past 3 years and have finally cut our Christmas shopping down to just my parents. (Barnes and Nobles) gift certificates . We receive no presents and all 4 children ages 27-15 are ok with it. We have a Christmas Eve dinner of home made peirogis and a Christmas morning brunch. By Christmas night we all sigh with relief that it is all over. Take out some free videos from your local library, take a walk in the woods and bring some bird food to feed the birds. Make Christmas cookies together. Go to goodwill and buy an ugly Christmas sweater for everyone to wear. Make new inexpensive memories!
Our church is collecting gifts for local teens, but I'm wondering if it would be better for them to suffer a little bit without this year.
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What Would Jesus Buy

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Re: No Xmas presents this year for my kids
My kids won't have any xmas presents for the first time, Th crisis is really taken it's toll.

1dunno11dunno11dunno1


wtf
 Quoting: DutchBigBoy


You will still file income taxes, right? Go to H & R Block and get the Emerald Advance. If it weren't for that, mine wouldn't have Christmas either - my husband has only been able to get temp jobs for about a year now, and my job pays the bills.
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Edited due to the fact I just saw you are not in the states - so sorry. If I had the funds, I'd wire you money. I know how hard it is to look at your babies and wonder how the hell they'll be fed and clothed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Lady


This is what's wrong with Christmas! Your tax return should get put back for a rainy day, it sounds like the past year has been rainy right?
 Quoting: andawg221


Also tax returns i got from the last 3 years i have to pay back too. They said they had filed me wrong so now it is back to start.
 Quoting: DutchBigBoy


Op I hope your money situation gets straightened out! But you owe your kids a warm place and a nice meal.

That's all year, not just Christmas.

Junk presents will mean nothing if mom and dad are stressed from over extending for Christmas.

God bless you all. Hopefully next year will more than make up for this year.

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