Homosexuality is WRONG!

Your turn.

You're forcing how YOU think and what YOU define as normal personally onto them and that is wrong. They need to find out who they are on their own......not from us. We all have our own paths and journeys to take, and guess what, they may not be like yours. Either accept that now, or be prepared for a battle inevitably ending with you being forced out of the way, because you cannot change that.

And if I were a dad, and my son turned out gay? I would not have any problem with it at all, because I would not be so selfish to expect him to live my life, his life would be his own. When you have a child, it's not all about you anymore, what you want, what you desire, it's about them. Take the focus off yourself and focus on their needs instead. My dad never did that to me......and I'll be damned if I'm going to be like he was.

I think YOU'RE the one that needs to ask yourself a question, and that simply is this. Do you want your child to trust you or not? If you do, you'll rethink how you are treating this issue, because I can guarantee you if you pump them with this attitude and any of them ends up gay anyway, they will NOT tell you. Is that what you want your kids to have to do? To feel they'd need to hide who they were from their own dad out of shame or fear of judgment? Seriously think about that.

It's clear to me you have some growing up to do, I pity your kids.....and I hope for their sake you do it soon. You'd be the type to judge a black person for being black back in the 60's too probably with your attitude.

Last Edited by ajk on 12/13/2012 09:46 PM

Okay let me give you a better example. If the Muslim religion was thought in your sons school and shown as a good normal thing in Movies, music, and everywhere else and he turned out to be a Muslim extremist who believed suicide bombing was ok how would you feel.

Its easy to defend what your okay with but everyone has something they're against.

Do you see my point.

Last Edited by Dapurps on 12/13/2012 09:49 PM

I don't think ANY religion should be treated as dominant to another, again the kids should be allowed to make their own decisions as they age. The important thing is to teach them to be strong, to think for themselves, and not just believe something because they are told it, but because it makes sense to them. That's all, the rest is up to them.

And there's nothing wrong with personal morals, keyword PERSONAL, as in.....one's own moral code, short of harming another being. Where we go wrong is to try and force OUR morality on everyone as if it's the only option, when it shouldn't be.

Adding to my post above:

Any bias point of view in life should be kept out of school. As an adult i fully respect the choice of turning gay although i don't think its natural.

Tell me one thing. Where in the last 2 years as the media pushed the agenda for being straight. Never because it doesn't happen.

Last Edited by Dapurps on 12/13/2012 09:52 PM

Not the same argument, they are two entirely different things and you know it. One is harmful for the images it places in the kid, and the brainwashing it does, similar to any organized religion in fact like that, the other simply teaches the differences in people and that that's ok, that it's not bad, that we don't have to be all the same or think or feel the same. They are two separate ideas completely.

There's no need for that because heterosexuality is already accepted, what would be the point of pushing for something everyone already accepts? The entire reason gays push is because people keep judging them, well we are long since past the time where you could keep them quiet. Like the blacks of the 1960's, they are here, and we are just gonna have to learn to deal with it.

No thats a bias point of view. You don't see it as the same thing but they believe in their religion just as much as you believe in gays.

If you want 100% free rights with no moral limitation you have to allow everything.

I'm not christian but this is a christian Nation. We have our standard morals.

Gingers are judged, Fat people are Judged, Religion is judged, Political views are judged.

Everything is judged one way or another. America fell apart when it started trying to please everyone. Im not talking strictly gay im talking everything.

When people start to accept that it's ok to judge people on how they are, even if they don't hurt anybody....

Its actually the opposite. All throughout history people stood by what they personally believed. Now everything must be accepted. People see this as fine until something they really don't agree with is accepted.

No it's really not, one is a destructive way of thinking, the other is only destructive to those that perceive it as such. You are the biased one here whether you realize it or not, in using an extreme argument to support your side.

To a degree yes you do, it doesn't mean there still isn't consequences though to actions or that there should not be, you still need that, just WHAT we are to be punished for or not punished for would change.

And here we come to the problem, "christian nation", THAT is why we have these issues to begin with, because we base morality and what is acceptable and what isn't even if it's not harming another soul to do it, on a certain set of ideologies and beliefs. Really, we are not that different at all from a Muslim nation, it's just the way of thinking is different. The idea though is the same, the religion sets the tone for behavior, and that should not be.

You want to talk about trying to please everyone? Well when you have an entire nation that is trying to judge based upon ONE belief system above all others, you end up making no one happy in the end. No one system of thinking should be able to circumvent one's own personal right to live how they wish to provided they are not harming someone else in so doing.

We must learn to coexist with each other, and live and let live. Until we can do that, we all will lose out in terms of rights and personal liberties no matter what side of the fence we stand on.

And THAT is the problem.......people can't get over themselves enough to let others live and let live. It's fine to stand by your own beliefs for yourself, there is NOTHING wrong with that. But when you start to use it to judge others who maybe think differently, that's where you got problems. It's a new time, and we must drop our old ways of thinking, change is here whether we want it or not.

Are you kidding me. If everyone followed the gay agenda it would destroy the world. People would cease to exist. Sure its a slower process but it adds nothing to this world.

Yeah, they stood by what they believed, in a way of killing everyone who is different - I'd recommend one simple rule - hurt anyboy -not very cool - hurt nobody- why should I bother?

If someone wants to kill they're going to kill. I don't agree with hurting people based on morals but i don't agree with kids seeing this until they are old enough to make a rational decision. Talking about gay brings sexual thinking into kids head plain and simple.

I don't think any of this should be thought in school. Let kids find out for themselves without a higher authority influencing their decisions.

If they turn out gay then so be it. If they turn out straight then so be it.

Last Edited by Dapurps on 12/13/2012 10:16 PM

If being gay was normal , men would be able to get pregnate .

And once again we are back to the extreme argument. There will ALWAYS be more kids born in this world in one way or another, just because SOME people are gay or lesbian doesn't mean everyone is going to be. It is absurd on it's face. It's not like we're the only species to have a gay population, animals do too, but don't see them dying out do you? Come on now.

To a point, but kids are gonna think about sex regardless, and hey remember you are still their parent, so whatever they hear, that's where you have to come in and help them process it. If you do that, then they ought to be just fine, but if you let the schools alone dictate what they hear you may have a problem. You are their ultimate higher authority as it were, so don't be afraid to use it. A lot of why things are screwed up is because parents don't.

Ok, maybe I got you wrong, but I agree with that. Generally children shouldn't get taught in school that much about sexuality, because that is something very private, something one needs to experience and decide himself. I think we agree about that children just shouldn't get influenced that much on this way. But, on the other hand, they should be told that they have to stay safe.

the ones that adopt children do, just think about how embarrassing that would be for the children when they go to school

HAHA YOUR DADS GAY!!! HAHA U HAVE 2 DADS!! etc

Not their fault though......that's on society.

Glad were on the same page. Personally i don't want to leave Sexuality, Religion, and Political point of views in the hands of the government and Schools. It would be my job as a father to think whats best for him and after 18 he can chose as he wishes and I'll support him.

Like ive said all thru this thread its not gays that bother me it whens its pushed on kids. But it goes for all the other sensitive topics. Parents have a role and the media and government have almost stolen that completely.

people smoke weed and dont bother others, still is wrong. Based on what the bible says and the cycle of life being GAY is 100% WRONG!!!!!!! I think your right its no ones business but they feel the need to express how being GAY is not a problem then the ones who feel it is have the right to voice their opinion too. Nuf Said

its their responsibility to not adopt children. they shouldn't even be able to adopt because they shouldn't even be allowed to get married (thank god its only a few places they can get married)

actually, there should be an island just for gays. let them live there but don't give them internet. so we don't have to see and hear them ever again

Just outa curiosity whats your opinion on Same sex marriage. The way i see it is that's the only thing besides the school part that im strong on. I hate religion but marriage is a religious thing in which they believe Gay marriage is wrong.

To make a pastor go against his faith in his own church seems wrong.

In fact, it's not 100% wrong naturally, because it's a prevention of overpopulation. I also don't see why smoking weed should be "wrong". But mostly, I agree with you, it's a fucking cycle - people who are saying that it is wrong and such things - and then again people who, because of that, feel the need to express their right to have their own chosen sexuality. But that's where is say....stop, wtf? what are we talking about? I DON'T FUCKING CARE.

I also agree with you on that, marriage is a religion thingy. Why should any homosexual even want to have that? I mean, in that book, they are condemned to eternal pain. Why would any homosexual use a thing that is based on this writings? In our country, as far as I know, we have (as an opportunity for homosexuals) what you could call an "Official Partnership" it is very similiar to a marriage, but to me it looks like the perfect solution. It's not fucking with the religious institutes, but gives the gays the same rights to have an official partnership, like heteros have.

Not a problem with it at all. Honestly I think marriage is more a state thing, than a religious thing. And frankly......I don't think the state should have ANY place in it gay or straight alike. We almost focus on the wrong thing in that way, focusing on who can get married rather than why the state has any say in it at all.

As for the pastor thing.....I don't think one should be allowed to discriminate based on personal views. That pastor's right ends where their right begins I believe.

How very loving of you, because they're different from you, they have no rights to happiness or a family. Nice.