PEOPLE DON'T DIE AND COME BACK TO TELL THEIR FRIENDS ABOUT HEAVEN OR HELL

very!

What? And that's more believable than our spirits go to be present with the Lord? Really reaching

Again your just making things fit your theory. Really reaching, I believe what the bible says

Well thanks for letting me know. I will not be taken in so easily next time someone comes soliciting funds for an after-life viewer they want to build and rent out to the hopeful bereaved.

what I have quoted is your bible no deviating

Yes our new bodies will rise from the dead, that does not mean our spirits are dead.

All the answers are in the bible just read..The practice is pagan and demonic.They have people speaking with devils impersonating loved ones

LOl. The devil, I think that would have been more of a nightmare, lol. No I spoke will a human being, in this case a soul. The message he gave me was great. Part of the message, is that, he did die, and woke up again. That was a part of our conversation. So that is probably what happens to everyone! I don't expect you to believe me, after all most people never believe these stories...most people never believed a thing Jesus, or Moses said, even till this day.

It is too confusing to be regarded as a valid source of information.

Abraham was a mainline Jew and not a pagan/idolator

you can laugh it off but why do you look to the dead for a prophecy? the dead is dead and what you are dealing with is a deceptive spirit

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only a heart that sincerely seeks truth will begin to understand at that level

these experiences as to what is seen is totally based on the mind programming belief system one follows.

So then you're saying Jesus was a fraud because he didn't raise Lazareth from the dead, because coming back from the dead contradicts scripture.

yes agreed ..."they were never dead these people"

never said that.. that was another scenario...

That was the example of the resurrection being shown to us by the messiah that he is the life and he has the athority to raise it up again these new claims today are not resurections

Lazarus body was decaying! do you want to continue this ?

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Neim-Ya'shar (OP): Look it, the only deception is people, that are alive now, that includes you. The devil speaks to them continuously. I couldn't care less if you believe my story, but at least I could say that I have been blessed to see somthing you can't buy with money, and for that matter somthing most people will only see after they are dead. So that being said, who cares what you think, lol. I would have given you the message I got, but there's no point now.

Really I don;t need to hear from the decptive spirits to please my God and be sucessful

6 Be strong and of a good courage: for unto this people shalt thou divide for an inheritance the land, which I sware unto their fathers to give them.

7 Only be thou strong and very courageous, that thou mayest observe to do according to all the law, which Moses my servant commanded thee: turn not from it to the right hand or to the left, that thou mayest prosper whithersoever thou goest.

8 This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.

I died and there wasn't anything to remember. Nothing. That's all it is as far as I'm concerned. Enjoy life while you have it.

When I died I everything went quiet and it was black. Nothing to see,

Maybe I wasn't dead long enough who knows.

or at all

I dis agree OP- the word of God is filled with confirmations of those who have visitations from the Lord---most of them who see heaven and hell dont die (some do)- they are visited, shown heaven and hell and warned that Jesus will rapture His Bride any moment. I have met and read of many. I too have had some revelation.

One thing I see that tells me we are in the last days is false prophets that arise and misleed those who are destined for life. Many of these are sent to hell because they refused to repent even when the Lord reached out to them. How sad it would be for a person to oppose God but to continue on into judgement. But I see them going on everyday, their fruits are evident.

Notice I have not posted a scripture here. I will let the Lord Jesus do that-He often gives lots of scripture. Jesus loves His Word, we humans are so frail, we misinterpret it and then take the stage like we know it.

twisted you are!

not one person can enter heaven until ALL have been judged.
that day has NOT come yet.

anybody telling you they went to heaven is either lying or being deceived.

OP, good thread.
5* for ya.

I believe you. I had something similar happen. When you said "way more bright" I knew you had been there.

The organized religions are all correct on some points but so wrong on this subject. None of them are right about the total picture. Instead they prefer to believe in a vengeful, violent "God". The only thing they are totally correct on is that "He" exists.

It is also common to people who are religious zealots to begin with.

And don't you just love threads where started by a religious zealot for the purpose of having a pissing contest with other religious zealots?

then what is your take on DMT and other "entheogens"?

what is happening when we visit other realms in these states?

Thanks!

no one knows what happens, you believe but you don't know.

as well, how do you account for Enoch or Ezekiel or the other encounters w angels in the Bible?

It seems like there are exceptions made to steer humanity towards the truth...

even the jewish people are an example of this...

:)