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PEOPLE DON'T DIE AND COME BACK TO TELL THEIR FRIENDS ABOUT HEAVEN OR HELL

 
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31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
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That is very true and proven by the fact that you would call it a demon.
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He Neim..

Ive a question for you.

IF people are being decieved..and satan IS sending familiar spirits to lie to them..then..BY definition EVERYTHING those spirits say would be a LIE right?

In terms of the BIGGER picture..they would be truthful concerning the minor details such as who was in the room..personal details,,but its ALL a smoke screen to make them swallow the LARGER lie wheich is regarding heaven and hell correct?

So their MOTIVATION in teloing fibs about heaven and hell is to twist or obfuscate the TRUTH..correct?
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Nah mainly porn
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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He Neim..

Ive a question for you.

IF people are being decieved..and satan IS sending familiar spirits to lie to them..then..BY definition EVERYTHING those spirits say would be a LIE right?

In terms of the BIGGER picture..they would be truthful concerning the minor details such as who was in the room..personal details,,but its ALL a smoke screen to make them swallow the LARGER lie wheich is regarding heaven and hell correct?

So their MOTIVATION in teloing fibs about heaven and hell is to twist or obfuscate the TRUTH..correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16997824


Now before I answer I will claerly state again there are people who had life threatening experinces and did have counsel and was able to see the right part and turn their lives around regarding God and our savior.

To answer your question this dieing and coming back from the dead I am addressing is not so.
THERE ARE EVIL SPIRITS ROAMING THE EARTH FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS JUST AS WE HAVE ANGELS. THEY CAN MIMICK VOICES AND TELL YOU THINGS ABOUT YOUR PAST

Like Mary is to the catholic church these behaviors can extends into darker realms like channeling etc

Satan is very cunning AND WHO KNOWS BETTER OF HOW HEAVEN LOOKS THAN HIM AND HIS BOYS1

Just be careful I say and read the scriptures

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/12/2012 07:34 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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He Neim..

Ive a question for you.

IF people are being decieved..and satan IS sending familiar spirits to lie to them..then..BY definition EVERYTHING those spirits say would be a LIE right?

In terms of the BIGGER picture..they would be truthful concerning the minor details such as who was in the room..personal details,,but its ALL a smoke screen to make them swallow the LARGER lie wheich is regarding heaven and hell correct?

So their MOTIVATION in teloing fibs about heaven and hell is to twist or obfuscate the TRUTH..correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16997824


Now before I answer I will claerly state agin ther are people who had life threatening experinces and did have counsel and was able to see the right part and turn their lives around regarding God and our savior.

To answer your quesstion this dieing and coming back from the dead I am addressing is not so.THERE ARE EVIL SPIRITS ROAMING THE EARTH FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS JUST AS WE HAVE ANGELS. THEY CAN MIMICK VOICES AND TELL YOU THINGS ABOUT YOUR PAST

Like Mary is to the catholic church these behaviors can extends into darker realms like channeling etc

Satan is very cunning
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


I know he is cunning.

Thats the point of my post.

Whenever satan says something its ALWAYS to further a LIE right?

He will use truths..bible verses..vsions..dreams..whatever he needs to do to further a lie.

The point being made...when an evil satanic metal band writes songs..by definition THEy are telling lies through song..on satan behalf.

When someone has an NDE they are lied to to perpetuate the SAME lie tha satanic bands all sing about.

Satan has his trademark..he always pushes the SAME lie.

Be it a "Holy" NDE experience..or a satanic song sung by a black metal band..they ALL push the SAME LIE.

Do you know what that lie is?

Cause if SATAN PROMOTES it SO MUCH..you just KNOW it HAS to be a lie...correct?
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He Neim..

Ive a question for you.

IF people are being decieved..and satan IS sending familiar spirits to lie to them..then..BY definition EVERYTHING those spirits say would be a LIE right?

In terms of the BIGGER picture..they would be truthful concerning the minor details such as who was in the room..personal details,,but its ALL a smoke screen to make them swallow the LARGER lie wheich is regarding heaven and hell correct?

So their MOTIVATION in teloing fibs about heaven and hell is to twist or obfuscate the TRUTH..correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16997824


Now before I answer I will claerly state agin ther are people who had life threatening experinces and did have counsel and was able to see the right part and turn their lives around regarding God and our savior.

To answer your quesstion this dieing and coming back from the dead I am addressing is not so.THERE ARE EVIL SPIRITS ROAMING THE EARTH FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS JUST AS WE HAVE ANGELS. THEY CAN MIMICK VOICES AND TELL YOU THINGS ABOUT YOUR PAST

Like Mary is to the catholic church these behaviors can extends into darker realms like channeling etc

Satan is very cunning
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


I know he is cunning.

Thats the point of my post.

Whenever satan says something its ALWAYS to further a LIE right?

He will use truths..bible verses..vsions..dreams..whatever he needs to do to further a lie.

The point being made...when an evil satanic metal band writes songs..by definition THEy are telling lies through song..on satan behalf.

When someone has an NDE they are lied to to perpetuate the SAME lie tha satanic bands all sing about.

Satan has his trademark..he always pushes the SAME lie.

Be it a "Holy" NDE experience..or a satanic song sung by a black metal band..they ALL push the SAME LIE.

Do you know what that lie is?

Cause if SATAN PROMOTES it SO MUCH..you just KNOW it HAS to be a lie...correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16997824


Go ahead, I see the setup coming
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Hold on then why after every NDE. It drastically changes someones life for the better.

The main theme in every single NDE is LOVE. Kind of a weird message from Satan and his demons dont you think?
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Here is a site with heaps of information about near death and out of body experiences including scientific studies and first hand accounts etc.

[link to www.near-death.com]

Here is a section that specifically deals with the skeptics concerns with near death experiences and how some experiences may very well be legitimate after life experiences.

[link to www.near-death.com]
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the thread is not about NDE! YOU ALL JUST WANT TO TWIST THIS AROUND
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


So your theory is that we have a spirit or a soul that can leave the body and come back during NDE, you don't dispute that. What you are saying, correct me if I'm wrong, is that this spirit or soul inside us then dies along with our body and goes into the grave along with our body when we die for the final time (not just NDE). And you believe that because of the one verse in Ecclesiastes saying the dead know nothing?
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He Neim..

Ive a question for you.

IF people are being decieved..and satan IS sending familiar spirits to lie to them..then..BY definition EVERYTHING those spirits say would be a LIE right?

In terms of the BIGGER picture..they would be truthful concerning the minor details such as who was in the room..personal details,,but its ALL a smoke screen to make them swallow the LARGER lie wheich is regarding heaven and hell correct?

So their MOTIVATION in teloing fibs about heaven and hell is to twist or obfuscate the TRUTH..correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16997824


Now before I answer I will claerly state agin ther are people who had life threatening experinces and did have counsel and was able to see the right part and turn their lives around regarding God and our savior.

To answer your quesstion this dieing and coming back from the dead I am addressing is not so.THERE ARE EVIL SPIRITS ROAMING THE EARTH FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS JUST AS WE HAVE ANGELS. THEY CAN MIMICK VOICES AND TELL YOU THINGS ABOUT YOUR PAST

Like Mary is to the catholic church these behaviors can extends into darker realms like channeling etc

Satan is very cunning
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


I know he is cunning.

Thats the point of my post.

Whenever satan says something its ALWAYS to further a LIE right?

He will use truths..bible verses..vsions..dreams..whatever he needs to do to further a lie.

The point being made...when an evil satanic metal band writes songs..by definition THEy are telling lies through song..on satan behalf.

When someone has an NDE they are lied to to perpetuate the SAME lie tha satanic bands all sing about.

Satan has his trademark..he always pushes the SAME lie.

Be it a "Holy" NDE experience..or a satanic song sung by a black metal band..they ALL push the SAME LIE.

Do you know what that lie is?

Cause if SATAN PROMOTES it SO MUCH..you just KNOW it HAS to be a lie...correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16997824


Go ahead, I see the setup coming
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


No setup..just a question.

You agree satan is a liar right?

What are the MAIN FEATURES that ALL the NDES center upon?

And also..what do satanic bands all sing about the most?

THE SAME LIE...cause if it was NOT a lie..it would NOT be featured in all the NDES or most of the black metal songs..OR the illuminati sponsored movies.

But because it IS a lie..its PUSHED and PUSHED HARD..

ONE of the main features is pre trib rapture...what are the others?
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Now before I answer I will claerly state agin ther are people who had life threatening experinces and did have counsel and was able to see the right part and turn their lives around regarding God and our savior.

To answer your quesstion this dieing and coming back from the dead I am addressing is not so.THERE ARE EVIL SPIRITS ROAMING THE EARTH FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS JUST AS WE HAVE ANGELS. THEY CAN MIMICK VOICES AND TELL YOU THINGS ABOUT YOUR PAST

Like Mary is to the catholic church these behaviors can extends into darker realms like channeling etc

Satan is very cunning
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


I know he is cunning.

Thats the point of my post.

Whenever satan says something its ALWAYS to further a LIE right?

He will use truths..bible verses..vsions..dreams..whatever he needs to do to further a lie.

The point being made...when an evil satanic metal band writes songs..by definition THEy are telling lies through song..on satan behalf.

When someone has an NDE they are lied to to perpetuate the SAME lie tha satanic bands all sing about.

Satan has his trademark..he always pushes the SAME lie.

Be it a "Holy" NDE experience..or a satanic song sung by a black metal band..they ALL push the SAME LIE.

Do you know what that lie is?

Cause if SATAN PROMOTES it SO MUCH..you just KNOW it HAS to be a lie...correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16997824


Go ahead, I see the setup coming
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


No setup..just a question.

You agree satan is a liar right?

What are the MAIN FEATURES that ALL the NDES center upon?

And also..what do satanic bands all sing about the most?

THE SAME LIE...cause if it was NOT a lie..it would NOT be featured in all the NDES or most of the black metal songs..OR the illuminati sponsored movies.

But because it IS a lie..its PUSHED and PUSHED HARD..

ONE of the main features is pre trib rapture...what are the others?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16997824


i am following you
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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SO ANY MORE MISLEADING DEBATES OF NDE WILL BE TAKEN DOWN.. WE ARE DISCUSSING DEATH NOT NDE AND WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS AS PER THE THREAD
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Neim, the subject of your thread is saying that NDE's are false. You must expect others to respond to the subject of the thread with their experiences and proof.

Otherwise, why even start this thread if you don't want anyone to talk about the subject matter?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


THIS! Please don't twist things around or if you want please start your own thread on NDE this is regading the bible verses I posted


These imaginary death experiences are common to many people because of the loss of oxygen to the brain, and the dump of the chemical DMT into your brain at death or times of great stress. The experience is influenced by your core beliefs and memories.

Some of God's chosen people do have visitation while in their helpless state and being warned to change their lives and serve God but they are alive and was never dead.

Those of you christians who teach this type of coming back from the dead contradicts scripture.So pull down your videos and repent

"SID ROTH IS AN ENLIGHTENMENT WIZARD DON'T BE FOOLED"
Sid Roth and some of these fakes have people believing in channeling and cross over from life to death and back again..These are familiar spirits these people have encountered in many cases.These men are wizards and they teach you sorcery
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


if i might jump in here...

it's isn't a lack of oxygen to the brain that constitutes these NDEs. These people were temporarily stone-cold dead.

but...
they didn't go to heaven.
they might have been somewhere wonderful and perhaps there is a place we go, in the presence of God, until judgment day, but it isn't heaven (where God resides)

we don't get there until after judgment day.
there are many heavens (ten according to enoch's writings) and on each heaven resides angels of different rank as well as perhaps humans. the tenth heaven is the place where God resides. however, it is actually the first heaven, but from our perspective it is the tenth.
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SO ANY MORE MISLEADING DEBATES OF NDE WILL BE TAKEN DOWN.. WE ARE DISCUSSING DEATH NOT NDE AND WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS AS PER THE THREAD
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Neim, the subject of your thread is saying that NDE's are false. You must expect others to respond to the subject of the thread with their experiences and proof.

Otherwise, why even start this thread if you don't want anyone to talk about the subject matter?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


THIS! Please don't twist things around or if you want please start your own thread on NDE this is regading the bible verses I posted


These imaginary death experiences are common to many people because of the loss of oxygen to the brain, and the dump of the chemical DMT into your brain at death or times of great stress. The experience is influenced by your core beliefs and memories.

Some of God's chosen people do have visitation while in their helpless state and being warned to change their lives and serve God but they are alive and was never dead.

Those of you christians who teach this type of coming back from the dead contradicts scripture.So pull down your videos and repent

"SID ROTH IS AN ENLIGHTENMENT WIZARD DON'T BE FOOLED"
Sid Roth and some of these fakes have people believing in channeling and cross over from life to death and back again..These are familiar spirits these people have encountered in many cases.These men are wizards and they teach you sorcery
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


if i might jump in here...

it's isn't a lack of oxygen to the brain that constitutes these NDEs. These people were temporarily stone-cold dead.

but...
they didn't go to heaven.
they might have been somewhere wonderful and perhaps there is a place we go, in the presence of God, until judgment day, but it isn't heaven (where God resides)

we don't get there until after judgment day.
there are many heavens (ten according to enoch's writings) and on each heaven resides angels of different rank as well as perhaps humans. the tenth heaven is the place where God resides. however, it is actually the first heaven, but from our perspective it is the tenth.
 Quoting: Salt


not discussing clinical near death experience dicussing death in the biblical context. where a soul leaves and come back
Thread: THE PLACE OF TORMENT AND HELL IS REAL! THIS IS LIFE AFTER DEATH! YOU CHOOSE

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/12/2012 08:21 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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SO ANY MORE MISLEADING DEBATES OF NDE WILL BE TAKEN DOWN.. WE ARE DISCUSSING DEATH NOT NDE AND WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS AS PER THE THREAD
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Neim, the subject of your thread is saying that NDE's are false. You must expect others to respond to the subject of the thread with their experiences and proof.

Otherwise, why even start this thread if you don't want anyone to talk about the subject matter?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


THIS! Please don't twist things around or if you want please start your own thread on NDE this is regading the bible verses I posted


These imaginary death experiences are common to many people because of the loss of oxygen to the brain, and the dump of the chemical DMT into your brain at death or times of great stress. The experience is influenced by your core beliefs and memories.

Some of God's chosen people do have visitation while in their helpless state and being warned to change their lives and serve God but they are alive and was never dead.

Those of you christians who teach this type of coming back from the dead contradicts scripture.So pull down your videos and repent

"SID ROTH IS AN ENLIGHTENMENT WIZARD DON'T BE FOOLED"
Sid Roth and some of these fakes have people believing in channeling and cross over from life to death and back again..These are familiar spirits these people have encountered in many cases.These men are wizards and they teach you sorcery
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Paul stated he knew a man who went to the 3rd heaven. He went and came back. This gives weight to the validity of heaven nde visits.
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I know he is cunning.

Thats the point of my post.

Whenever satan says something its ALWAYS to further a LIE right?

He will use truths..bible verses..vsions..dreams..whatever he needs to do to further a lie.

The point being made...when an evil satanic metal band writes songs..by definition THEy are telling lies through song..on satan behalf.

When someone has an NDE they are lied to to perpetuate the SAME lie tha satanic bands all sing about.

Satan has his trademark..he always pushes the SAME lie.

Be it a "Holy" NDE experience..or a satanic song sung by a black metal band..they ALL push the SAME LIE.

Do you know what that lie is?

Cause if SATAN PROMOTES it SO MUCH..you just KNOW it HAS to be a lie...correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16997824


Go ahead, I see the setup coming
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


No setup..just a question.

You agree satan is a liar right?

What are the MAIN FEATURES that ALL the NDES center upon?

And also..what do satanic bands all sing about the most?

THE SAME LIE...cause if it was NOT a lie..it would NOT be featured in all the NDES or most of the black metal songs..OR the illuminati sponsored movies.

But because it IS a lie..its PUSHED and PUSHED HARD..

ONE of the main features is pre trib rapture...what are the others?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16997824


i am following you
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Before I continue..what is satans NUMBER ONE goal in regards to christians?

Its to keep them INEFFECTIVE right?

Also..to keep them swayed with "Every wind of doctrine?..right?

What is the FRUIT of the pre trib rapture doctrine?

WHAT has it done to christians..AND their witness?


Its turned them into cowards..they FEAR having to go through anything harmful..its created PRIDE because they feel SPECIAL..and GREED because MILLIONS of dollars have been made by the rapture industry..

SO lets LOOK at it..

The results..the FRUITS..

Its destroyed christians credibilty.

Its turned them into selfish arrogant people.

Its turned them into FLESH pleasers..because the prosperity doctrine goes hand in hand with the rapture doctrine.

They have forgotten what sacrifice means and seek only pleasing of self.

They judge others and condemn them..and when their endless "Predictions" of rapture NEVER happen the world MOCKS..and yet they have the ARROGANCE to say this mocking is BECAUSE they are christians...but really..ITS BECAUSE THEY ARN'T.

VERY effective LIE of satan..ALL promoted in alsmost EVERY NDE ive ever seen..

SO..what OTHER lies have had THE SAME RESULT..namley..TURNING millions AWAY from Jesus..PLUS..making those who DO turn to him..nothing but self rightous bags of FEAR and UTTERLY ineffective..and totally LOVELESS with no compassion for anyone but themselves?

Its also promoted by illuminati movies..and black metal bands..now THINK HARD..WHAT is the NEXT major GOSPEL destroying LIE?..the one that has the SAME effect..or FRUIT..as the pre trib rapture lie?
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SO ANY MORE MISLEADING DEBATES OF NDE WILL BE TAKEN DOWN.. WE ARE DISCUSSING DEATH NOT NDE AND WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS AS PER THE THREAD
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Neim, the subject of your thread is saying that NDE's are false. You must expect others to respond to the subject of the thread with their experiences and proof.

Otherwise, why even start this thread if you don't want anyone to talk about the subject matter?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


THIS! Please don't twist things around or if you want please start your own thread on NDE this is regading the bible verses I posted


These imaginary death experiences are common to many people because of the loss of oxygen to the brain, and the dump of the chemical DMT into your brain at death or times of great stress. The experience is influenced by your core beliefs and memories.

Some of God's chosen people do have visitation while in their helpless state and being warned to change their lives and serve God but they are alive and was never dead.

Those of you christians who teach this type of coming back from the dead contradicts scripture.So pull down your videos and repent

"SID ROTH IS AN ENLIGHTENMENT WIZARD DON'T BE FOOLED"
Sid Roth and some of these fakes have people believing in channeling and cross over from life to death and back again..These are familiar spirits these people have encountered in many cases.These men are wizards and they teach you sorcery
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Paul stated he knew a man who went to the 3rd heaven. He went and came back. This gives weight to the validity of heaven nde visits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29653687


Paul a had a visitation like most of the patriarchs and old prophets.Did paul die No

This has nothing to do with the paganism you folks want to excuse

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/12/2012 08:35 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Neim, the subject of your thread is saying that NDE's are false. You must expect others to respond to the subject of the thread with their experiences and proof.

Otherwise, why even start this thread if you don't want anyone to talk about the subject matter?
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THIS! Please don't twist things around or if you want please start your own thread on NDE this is regading the bible verses I posted


These imaginary death experiences are common to many people because of the loss of oxygen to the brain, and the dump of the chemical DMT into your brain at death or times of great stress. The experience is influenced by your core beliefs and memories.

Some of God's chosen people do have visitation while in their helpless state and being warned to change their lives and serve God but they are alive and was never dead.

Those of you christians who teach this type of coming back from the dead contradicts scripture.So pull down your videos and repent

"SID ROTH IS AN ENLIGHTENMENT WIZARD DON'T BE FOOLED"
Sid Roth and some of these fakes have people believing in channeling and cross over from life to death and back again..These are familiar spirits these people have encountered in many cases.These men are wizards and they teach you sorcery
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Paul stated he knew a man who went to the 3rd heaven. He went and came back. This gives weight to the validity of heaven nde visits.
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Paul a had a visitation like most of the patriarchs and old prophets.Did paul die No

This has nothing to do with the paganism you folks want to excuse
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Paul stated he knew a man. That went to heaven. You reply completely ignores this fact.
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THIS! Please don't twist things around or if you want please start your own thread on NDE this is regading the bible verses I posted


These imaginary death experiences are common to many people because of the loss of oxygen to the brain, and the dump of the chemical DMT into your brain at death or times of great stress. The experience is influenced by your core beliefs and memories.

Some of God's chosen people do have visitation while in their helpless state and being warned to change their lives and serve God but they are alive and was never dead.

Those of you christians who teach this type of coming back from the dead contradicts scripture.So pull down your videos and repent

"SID ROTH IS AN ENLIGHTENMENT WIZARD DON'T BE FOOLED"
Sid Roth and some of these fakes have people believing in channeling and cross over from life to death and back again..These are familiar spirits these people have encountered in many cases.These men are wizards and they teach you sorcery
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Paul stated he knew a man who went to the 3rd heaven. He went and came back. This gives weight to the validity of heaven nde visits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29653687


Paul a had a visitation like most of the patriarchs and old prophets.Did paul die No

This has nothing to do with the paganism you folks want to excuse
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Paul stated he knew a man. That went to heaven. You reply completely ignores this fact.
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I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows.

Also you stated Paul didn't die, neither did some accounts of those who visited heaven. They didn't even have an NDE, but was still taken to heaven.
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These imaginary death experiences are common to many people because of the loss of oxygen to the brain, and the dump of the chemical DMT into your brain at death or times of great stress. The experience is influenced by your core beliefs and memories.

Some of God's chosen people do have visitation while in their helpless state and being warned to change their lives and serve God but they are alive and was never dead.

Those of you christians who teach this type of coming back from the dead contradicts scripture.So pull down your videos and repent

"SID ROTH IS AN ENLIGHTENMENT WIZARD DON'T BE FOOLED"
Sid Roth and some of these fakes have people believing in channeling and cross over from life to death and back again..These are familiar spirits these people have encountered in many cases.These men are wizards and they teach you sorcery



hebrew chapter 9
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:


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luke chp 16
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
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Hate to burst your bubble, but they don't claim to "come back from the dead."

It's called a "near death experience." Big difference.
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After you die, you wake up again. And you begin a new journey. I'm not sure if you get a new body right away, but your soul lives, and can communicate and understand things. Commication is telepathic, in other words you don't need to speak, just think and your message is heard. It's a great new world. Don't think you die and that's the end. If you are successful in this world, you will be blessed by the light of God and your soul will shine, and you will be happy. This I know to be 100% true.
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not true

Thread: THE PLACE OF TORMENT AND HELL IS REAL! THIS IS LIFE AFTER DEATH! YOU CHOOSE
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dude, you're in for a surprise, but only for a second. you'll be welcomed back to your soul group and remember
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About a couple weeks ago in a dream state, I travelled to a place, or was brought to a place, it was a large dark room, felt dirty, like a slum or prison, kinda like a hole. there were lots of ppl in there. some quiet, some alone, some huddled together. All unhapy. I could hear in my mind a voice saying something like, "a place where every unclean spirit is, this place is hell" And It felt like it was some room in some level of hell. Or maybe purgatory, but I did hear the word hell.
There was a woman in the center, and a man wsa trying to rape her or something, she was struggling. He finally stepped back cuz she wsa struggling so much, and this other guy stepped foward and yelled in a real cruel tone to "Rip out her (he used some word for vag) and thats when I got kin friend the kinda freaked out, and Wanted to leave and I started to leave, out a tiny hole, and I tried pulling that woman out along with another woman who had no legs, or was in a wheelchair or something.

WHen I told my friend about it who was with me that day, she said Sorry. she said she prayed that I would know what Hell was like. because I told her I think I am goign there. And she dont think I would. So I guess Her prayer was heard cuz she was burning sweetgrass in my house that night.

So yeah. I didn't die and go to hell. But The spirits came and showed me a room in hell.

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