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Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395  United States12/12/2012 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | luke chp 16 Quoting: Luke25 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Wow prophetic. very! 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Machine42 User ID: 2055677 United States12/12/2012 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about the cases where they come back and know information about what happened while they were dead that could not possibly have known? Quoting: Machine42 here is just one example of a boy that knew about his unborn sister. ther are what we call familiar spirits around us and they been on this earth since the flood.They know things of us and history.These are the same spirits used in channeling What? And that's more believable than our spirits go to be present with the Lord? Really reaching |
| Machine42 User ID: 2055677 United States12/12/2012 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the interesting question, and the answer is no, have never been dead. But my communication was with someone who died, and I was fortunate enough to talk with them, and see them :). It's a mind blowing experience, somthing the human brain can barely take. Extremly taxing and powerful on the brain...expecially the shinning light. I have never seen anything like it. Like I said the pictures that you see, it's exactly like that but way more bright when you see the real thing. Its one of the things you can never prove scientifically, but I'm the last person on earth who would make up a story. I wouldn't beleive it if I didn't see it for myself. Quoting: newworldnew 1784446 who you spoke to was the devil appearing as an angel of light and guidance to you.To convince you he will reveal things to you that only you and the person may have known or even predict something in your futre that will happen Again your just making things fit your theory. Really reaching, I believe what the bible says |
| Prostetnik User ID: 15329004  Canada12/12/2012 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These imaginary death experiences are common to many people because of the loss of oxygen to the brain, and the dump of the chemical DMT into your brain at death or times of great stress. The experience is influenced by your core beliefs and memories. Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Well thanks for letting me know. I will not be taken in so easily next time someone comes soliciting funds for an after-life viewer they want to build and rent out to the hopeful bereaved. |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395 United States12/12/2012 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the interesting question, and the answer is no, have never been dead. But my communication was with someone who died, and I was fortunate enough to talk with them, and see them :). It's a mind blowing experience, somthing the human brain can barely take. Extremly taxing and powerful on the brain...expecially the shinning light. I have never seen anything like it. Like I said the pictures that you see, it's exactly like that but way more bright when you see the real thing. Its one of the things you can never prove scientifically, but I'm the last person on earth who would make up a story. I wouldn't beleive it if I didn't see it for myself. Quoting: newworldnew 1784446 who you spoke to was the devil appearing as an angel of light and guidance to you.To convince you he will reveal things to you that only you and the person may have known or even predict something in your futre that will happen Again your just making things fit your theory. Really reaching, I believe what the bible says what I have quoted is your bible no deviating 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395 United States12/12/2012 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These imaginary death experiences are common to many people because of the loss of oxygen to the brain, and the dump of the chemical DMT into your brain at death or times of great stress. The experience is influenced by your core beliefs and memories. Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Well thanks for letting me know. I will not be taken in so easily next time someone comes soliciting funds for an after-life viewer they want to build and rent out to the hopeful bereaved. All the answers are in the bible just read..The practice is pagan and demonic.They have people speaking with devils impersonating loved ones 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| newworldnew User ID: 1784446 Canada12/12/2012 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOl. The devil, I think that would have been more of a nightmare, lol. No I spoke will a human being, in this case a soul. The message he gave me was great. Part of the message, is that, he did die, and woke up again. That was a part of our conversation. So that is probably what happens to everyone! I don't expect you to believe me, after all most people never believe these stories...most people never believed a thing Jesus, or Moses said, even till this day. |
| Prostetnik User ID: 15329004 Canada12/12/2012 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These imaginary death experiences are common to many people because of the loss of oxygen to the brain, and the dump of the chemical DMT into your brain at death or times of great stress. The experience is influenced by your core beliefs and memories. Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Well thanks for letting me know. I will not be taken in so easily next time someone comes soliciting funds for an after-life viewer they want to build and rent out to the hopeful bereaved. All the answers are in the bible just read..The practice is pagan and demonic.They have people speaking with devils impersonating loved ones It is too confusing to be regarded as a valid source of information. |
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| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395 United States12/12/2012 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOl. The devil, I think that would have been more of a nightmare, lol. No I spoke will a human being, in this case a soul. The message he gave me was great. Part of the message, is that, he did die, and woke up again. That was a part of our conversation. So that is probably what happens to everyone! I don't expect you to believe me, after all most people never believe these stories...most people never believed a thing Jesus, or Moses said, even till this day. Quoting: newworldnew 1784446 you can laugh it off but why do you look to the dead for a prophecy? the dead is dead and what you are dealing with is a deceptive spirit Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/12/2012 10:29 AM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395 United States12/12/2012 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These imaginary death experiences are common to many people because of the loss of oxygen to the brain, and the dump of the chemical DMT into your brain at death or times of great stress. The experience is influenced by your core beliefs and memories. Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Well thanks for letting me know. I will not be taken in so easily next time someone comes soliciting funds for an after-life viewer they want to build and rent out to the hopeful bereaved. All the answers are in the bible just read..The practice is pagan and demonic.They have people speaking with devils impersonating loved ones It is too confusing to be regarded as a valid source of information. only a heart that sincerely seeks truth will begin to understand at that level 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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| Nexus-9 User ID: 1368022 United States12/12/2012 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These imaginary death experiences are common to many people because of the loss of oxygen to the brain, and the dump of the chemical DMT into your brain at death or times of great stress. The experience is influenced by your core beliefs and memories. Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Some of God's chosen people do have visitation while in their helpless state and being warned to change their lives and serve God but they are and was never dead. Those of you christians who teach this type of coming back from the dead contradicts scripture.So pull down your videos and repent "SID ROTH IS AN ENLIGHTENMENT WIZARD DON'T BE FOOLED" hebrew chapter 9 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:  luke chp 16 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. So then you're saying Jesus was a fraud because he didn't raise Lazareth from the dead, because coming back from the dead contradicts scripture.  "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395 United States12/12/2012 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | these experiences as to what is seen is totally based on the mind programming belief system one follows. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29551069 yes agreed ..."they were never dead these people" 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395 United States12/12/2012 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These imaginary death experiences are common to many people because of the loss of oxygen to the brain, and the dump of the chemical DMT into your brain at death or times of great stress. The experience is influenced by your core beliefs and memories. Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Some of God's chosen people do have visitation while in their helpless state and being warned to change their lives and serve God but they are and was never dead. Those of you christians who teach this type of coming back from the dead contradicts scripture.So pull down your videos and repent "SID ROTH IS AN ENLIGHTENMENT WIZARD DON'T BE FOOLED" hebrew chapter 9 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: luke chp 16 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. So then you're saying Jesus was a fraud because he didn't raise Lazareth from the dead, because coming back from the dead contradicts scripture. never said that.. that was another scenario... That was the example of the resurrection being shown to us by the messiah that he is the life and he has the athority to raise it up again these new claims today are not resurections Lazarus body was decaying! do you want to continue this ? Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/12/2012 10:41 AM 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| newworldnew User ID: 1784446 Canada12/12/2012 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neim-Ya'shar (OP): Look it, the only deception is people, that are alive now, that includes you. The devil speaks to them continuously. I couldn't care less if you believe my story, but at least I could say that I have been blessed to see somthing you can't buy with money, and for that matter somthing most people will only see after they are dead. So that being said, who cares what you think, lol. I would have given you the message I got, but there's no point now. |
| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395 United States12/12/2012 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neim-Ya'shar (OP): Look it, the only deception is people, that are alive now, that includes you. The devil speaks to them continuously. I couldn't care less if you believe my story, but at least I could say that I have been blessed to see somthing you can't buy with money, and for that matter somthing most people will only see after they are dead. So that being said, who cares what you think, lol. I would have given you the message I got, but there's no point now. Quoting: newworldnew 1784446 Really I don;t need to hear from the decptive spirits to please my God and be sucessful 6 Be strong and of a good courage: for unto this people shalt thou divide for an inheritance the land, which I sware unto their fathers to give them. 7 Only be thou strong and very courageous, that thou mayest observe to do according to all the law, which Moses my servant commanded thee: turn not from it to the right hand or to the left, that thou mayest prosper whithersoever thou goest. 8 This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success. 9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest. 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
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| Neim-Ya'shar (OP) User ID: 28411395 United States12/12/2012 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I died I everything went quiet and it was black. Nothing to see, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1490846 Maybe I wasn't dead long enough who knows. or at all 1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt, 42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land. 43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river. 44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. 45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth. 46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come, :knoup: |
| WalkerTalker2 User ID: 28731015 United States12/12/2012 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dis agree OP- the word of God is filled with confirmations of those who have visitations from the Lord---most of them who see heaven and hell dont die (some do)- they are visited, shown heaven and hell and warned that Jesus will rapture His Bride any moment. I have met and read of many. I too have had some revelation. One thing I see that tells me we are in the last days is false prophets that arise and misleed those who are destined for life. Many of these are sent to hell because they refused to repent even when the Lord reached out to them. How sad it would be for a person to oppose God but to continue on into judgement. But I see them going on everyday, their fruits are evident. Notice I have not posted a scripture here. I will let the Lord Jesus do that-He often gives lots of scripture. Jesus loves His Word, we humans are so frail, we misinterpret it and then take the stage like we know it. WalkerTalker2 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29018328  Spain12/12/2012 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These imaginary death experiences are common to many people because of the loss of oxygen to the brain, and the dump of the chemical DMT into your brain at death or times of great stress. The experience is influenced by your core beliefs and memories. Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Some of God's chosen people do have visitation while in their helpless state and being warned to change their lives and serve God but they are and was never dead. Those of you christians who teach this type of coming back from the dead contradicts scripture.So pull down your videos and repent "SID ROTH IS AN ENLIGHTENMENT WIZARD DON'T BE FOOLED" hebrew chapter 9 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: :HJIUU: luke chp 16 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. So then you're saying Jesus was a fraud because he didn't raise Lazareth from the dead, because coming back from the dead contradicts scripture. :hohum: twisted you are! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21291600 United States12/12/2012 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dis agree OP- the word of God is filled with confirmations of those who have visitations from the Lord---most of them who see heaven and hell dont die (some do)- they are visited, shown heaven and hell and warned that Jesus will rapture His Bride any moment. I have met and read of many. I too have had some revelation. Quoting: WalkerTalker2 One thing I see that tells me we are in the last days is false prophets that arise and misleed those who are destined for life. Many of these are sent to hell because they refused to repent even when the Lord reached out to them. How sad it would be for a person to oppose God but to continue on into judgement. But I see them going on everyday, their fruits are evident. Notice I have not posted a scripture here. I will let the Lord Jesus do that-He often gives lots of scripture. Jesus loves His Word, we humans are so frail, we misinterpret it and then take the stage like we know it. not one person can enter heaven until ALL have been judged. that day has NOT come yet. anybody telling you they went to heaven is either lying or being deceived. OP, good thread. 5* for ya. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29709809 United States12/12/2012 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the interesting question, and the answer is no, have never been dead. But my communication was with someone who died, and I was fortunate enough to talk with them, and see them :). It's a mind blowing experience, somthing the human brain can barely take. Extremly taxing and powerful on the brain...expecially the shinning light. I have never seen anything like it. Like I said the pictures that you see, it's exactly like that but way more bright when you see the real thing. Its one of the things you can never prove scientifically, but I'm the last person on earth who would make up a story. I wouldn't beleive it if I didn't see it for myself. Quoting: newworldnew 1784446 I believe you. I had something similar happen. When you said "way more bright" I knew you had been there. The organized religions are all correct on some points but so wrong on this subject. None of them are right about the total picture. Instead they prefer to believe in a vengeful, violent "God". The only thing they are totally correct on is that "He" exists. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19089565 United States12/12/2012 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These imaginary death experiences are common to many people because of the loss of oxygen to the brain, and the dump of the chemical DMT into your brain at death or times of great stress. The experience is influenced by your core beliefs and memories. Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar Some of God's chosen people do have visitation while in their helpless state and being warned to change their lives and serve God but they are and was never dead. Those of you christians who teach this type of coming back from the dead contradicts scripture.So pull down your videos and repent "SID ROTH IS AN ENLIGHTENMENT WIZARD DON'T BE FOOLED" hebrew chapter 9 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: :HJIUU: luke chp 16 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. then what is your take on DMT and other "entheogens"? what is happening when we visit other realms in these states? Thanks!  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19089565 United States12/12/2012 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as well, how do you account for Enoch or Ezekiel or the other encounters w angels in the Bible? It seems like there are exceptions made to steer humanity towards the truth... even the jewish people are an example of this... :) |
