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JUST-IN: Huge Leak of Radioactive Water in Fukushima No 2. Containment Vessel Fractured!

 
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Amazing that it's taken 21 months for old information to come to light.

Here are some early articles, starting right after the tsumani:


Reactor breach worsens prospects
15 March 2011
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Reports indicate breach in Japanese nuclear reactor containment vessel
30 March 2011
[link to www.wsws.org]

"The discovery of highly radioactive water in areas outside reactor containment buildings at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear facility may be due to one or more breaches of the protection vessels...

... “While we don’t know exactly the relationship between the need to inject water to cool [the reactor core] and the outflow of water, we have reduced the amount of injected water to a minimum given the reactor number 2’s tendency to spew highly radioactive water.”"


FUKUSHIMA: Reactor #2 Is Cracked And Highly Radioactive Water Is Leaking Into The Ocean
Apr. 2, 2011
[link to www.businessinsider.com]
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


chuckle Good point EM. rose

Highly illustrative of the effectiveness of the dis-info campaign, wouldn't you say..?
My efforts have been quite feeble, in retrospective comparison..
It is what it is.
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anyone here still eat tuna?
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"Tokyo Electric Power Co. said it was unable to identify the source of the leak when the robot inspected one of the eight vent pipes that connect the chamber with the containment vessel on Dec. 11."





and.... a robot inspected it! Wow... Fukushima is one of my biggest fears since I'm in So. Calif.

GLPers - please keep this info. updated

ohno
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Fukushima has been a GIANT RADIOACTIVE cluster fuck since day one. Japanese people are in denial... The rest of the world is being lied to.

It will poison the entire world. Chernobyl was small in comparison.

Radioactive doom will continue coming from Fukushima FOREVER...and EVER
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Amazing that it's taken 21 months for old information to come to light.

One might wonder WHY TPTB are releasing this as new info now. Is something going on there since the recent EQs? Are they thinking of making the EQ scapegoats for the orginal breech??????

methinks something about this is fishy...

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Here are some early articles, starting right after the tsumani:


Reactor breach worsens prospects
15 March 2011
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Reports indicate breach in Japanese nuclear reactor containment vessel
30 March 2011
[link to www.wsws.org]

"The discovery of highly radioactive water in areas outside reactor containment buildings at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear facility may be due to one or more breaches of the protection vessels...

... “While we don’t know exactly the relationship between the need to inject water to cool [the reactor core] and the outflow of water, we have reduced the amount of injected water to a minimum given the reactor number 2’s tendency to spew highly radioactive water.”"


FUKUSHIMA: Reactor #2 Is Cracked And Highly Radioactive Water Is Leaking Into The Ocean
Apr. 2, 2011
[link to www.businessinsider.com]
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


I think you misunderstand something here,
Tepco and we all (People who are concerned)
knew that there is Water
but we didn't know for sure where it came from.

Now Tepco send a Robot to check some Valves
which are maybe "leaking"!

"The first one of Eight" is not (leaking)

Asahi Shinbun reported this very well
but you need to read the Original Article
to understand it!

The Pseudo-Scientific Blog-o-Sphere missed this point
because they are not Journalists and not Scientist!

To say something you need a Proof,
without a Proof it is invalid!
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And they already admitted that they did not go for a sarcophagus simply because they did not have the money.

They lie if they claim to have been doing everything possible for containment!
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Fukushima has been a GIANT RADIOACTIVE cluster fuck since day one. Japanese people are in denial... The rest of the world is being lied to.

It will poison the entire world. Chernobyl was small in comparison.

Radioactive doom will continue coming from Fukushima FOREVER...and EVER
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211208


The world is in denial.
The science is there. Undeniable.

Anyone can research 'nuclear reactor core meltdown' 'TMI' 'Chernobyl'..if they want to know the truth.

I did.
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Fukushima has been a GIANT RADIOACTIVE cluster fuck since day one. Japanese people are in denial... The rest of the world is being lied to.

It will poison the entire world. Chernobyl was small in comparison.

Radioactive doom will continue coming from Fukushima FOREVER...and EVER
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211208


The world is in denial.
The science is there. Undeniable.

Anyone can research 'nuclear reactor core meltdown' 'TMI' 'Chernobyl'..if they want to know the truth.

I did.
 Quoting: Waterbug


hf
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anyone here still eat tuna?
 Quoting: ehecatl


there's so much mercury in tuna that even the tuna industry
recommends that you don't eat more than one can of tuna a week.
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Fukushima isn't just located by the sea. It sits on the edge of a 20,000 foot cliff to the bottom of one of the biggest geologically active faults in the world. At some point, the whole thing is going into the ocean.
 Quoting: Resister


This is also not true,
the big Rift is 200-300 Km away on the east
Side!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


Geologically that is pretty darn close to an ocean that has already flooded the facility and quakes that have already caused intruding sea water to bubble up from the ground in places along the coast.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Resister


All those places where that happened was on reclaimed land
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25192764


Yes, I do know that. Doesn't change the fact that the reactor is sitting right on the coast, directly in the path of any Tsunami and or coastal land slide that that 20,000 foot deep plate techtonic trench decides to throw at it.

Yes it has been there relatively safe for about 40 years. So what? The material stuck inside of that wrecked power plant can not be moved and will still be radio active well after all of us are dead and gone. It will be there for a very long time. Long enough at some point for it and the coast line to be effected by that massive fault line in a major way.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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And they already admitted that they did not go for a sarcophagus simply because they did not have the money.

They lie if they claim to have been doing everything possible for containment!
 Quoting: ehecatl


That is bogus dis-info, IMO.
Smokescreen.

As corrupt as the industry is.. I don't think they'd have
been allowed to withhold an effective response
merely because of the cost.

What makes the most sense to me is that it can't be
done effectively.. hence, the japanese are left to their
own methods... further obscuring the truth of the matter.

I could be wrong..
It could be a mass-depopulation event that:

1- fell right into their laps...
2- was caused by unknown manipulation...
3- is simply bad mojo karma for us all

If it were a reality TV show... no one would believe it.
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This Sarcophagus is not a Moneyproblem,
in fact it would be the cheapest solution!

The molten Fuel is (according to the Nuclear Complex)
still inside of the Containment,
there is no Benefit in it to use a even bigger Containment!

The Way to go is
"Cooling and the cleaning of the cooling Water,
waiting while Cooling and cleaning this Water
and Invest Billions in our Education-System until
(at least) we find a solution for this Problem!
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This Sarcophagus is not a Moneyproblem,
in fact it would be the cheapest solution!

The molten Fuel is (according to the Nuclear Complex)
still inside of the Containment,
there is no Benefit in it to use a even bigger Containment!

The Way to go is
"Cooling and the cleaning of the cooling Water,
waiting while Cooling and cleaning this Water
and Invest Billions in our Education-System until
(at least) we find a solution for this Problem!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


In a perfect world.. they'd have had the answers
to 'what if', long before covering the planet with nuclear reactors...

It's a little late for 'billions in our education systems.'
The damage is done.
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Fukushima Day 633 Radioactive Fallout detected in Ottawa, Canada Rain Dec.1st & 2nd


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Dec 2nd 2012 Hot rain eastern Ontario


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radiation fallout canada


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Hot rain pluie radioactive 4 decembre fukushima Montreal


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This Sarcophagus is not a Moneyproblem,
in fact it would be the cheapest solution!

The molten Fuel is (according to the Nuclear Complex)
still inside of the Containment,
there is no Benefit in it to use a even bigger Containment!

The Way to go is
"Cooling and the cleaning of the cooling Water,
waiting while Cooling and cleaning this Water
and Invest Billions in our Education-System until
(at least) we find a solution for this Problem!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


In a perfect world.. they'd have had the answers
to 'what if', long before covering the planet with nuclear reactors...


It's a little late for 'billions in our education systems.'
The damage is done.
 Quoting: Waterbug


In a "perfect World" we would not see 25.000 Children
die daily because of a inaccurate Water-Supply!


But you can change it or just blubbering like our Buggy-Chan,
but you need Balls to do and create this change
because you need a lot of Ideas and Solutions for the
whole World, for the Christians and Muslims, for the Blacks
and for the Coloured People, for the Russians and Canadians,
for the Males and Females, etc., etc.!
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Off topic but... if there ever is a pole shift obviously there will be massive amounts of death because of the event itself but with all of the nuclear power plants all over the planet, wouldn't it be safe to assume that any survivers of the pole shift would just die from radiation exposure? Surely a pole shift would be the death of us all. There is no survival for annyone if ever a pole shift happens. What say you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1566391


Yep.

Who would want to survive..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


Me.

Let's say you have a house that you rent out to somebody... and the renters start to ruin your house... what would you do? You would evict the ones ruining your house. There's nothing wrong with the house. Humans have been poor tenants. What is more, they are ruining the earth not only literally by means of pollution, deforestation, and exploitation but also morally and spiritually through violence, bloodshed, and sexual immorality.

Earth was created for a purpose:
For this is what Jehovah has said, the Creator of the heavens, He the [true] God, the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited: I am Jehovah, and there is no one else. (Isa 45:18)

So, do you really think we (humans) can interfere with that purpose?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447032


Without getting into a whole religious thang...
I meant... 'Who would want to survive in this earthly form.?'

I don't buy into the 'vengeful God' theme.
I think we do this to ourselves.
The depths of depravity that mankind has achieved speaks for itself.

We are talking about blatant industrial and corporate greed, with total disregard concerning the welfare and health of the planet, or of its denizens.
 Quoting: Waterbug


(I meant "you" as in the general population :P)

Kuddos for not buying into that. Unfortunately, many have allowed themselves to be pursuaded in that vein. Which is why these see no hope for the earth. Which is why I merely offered a perspective that they may not have considered.

I couldn't agree more: you have nailed it as far as two of the main issues - human greed and total disregard for God's creation.

Both will soon be a thing of the past.
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Radioactive fallout in rain water, 172 cpm, Milwaukee, Wi. 12-09-2012


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Community Radiation Monitoring Program-Scottsboro Radiation Rain Event 12-10-12.wmv


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This Sarcophagus is not a Moneyproblem,
in fact it would be the cheapest solution!

The molten Fuel is (according to the Nuclear Complex)
still inside of the Containment,
there is no Benefit in it to use a even bigger Containment!

The Way to go is
"Cooling and the cleaning of the cooling Water,
waiting while Cooling and cleaning this Water
and Invest Billions in our Education-System until
(at least) we find a solution for this Problem!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


How could anyone who has seen the aerial photos of the damage possibly believe that these reactors are in any way in containment. To the contrary, they are simply wide open festering wounds, which could have mountains of boron and sand dumped on top of them. (although SFP 4 needs to have it's rods removed.)

There is nothing that will stop pollution of the water except to stop pouring more water into it, and that can only be done by cutting the cord and capping it tight.
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Asahi: Tepco can’t find where huge amount of highly radioactive water is leaking at Reactor No. 2 — ‘Fractures’ in containment vessel suspected

The operator of the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant is grappling to locate the source of a leak of highly radioactive water in the crippled No. 2 reactor [...]

A remote-controlled robot is now scouring the basement of the reactor building [...]

TEPCO suspects the radioactive water is leaking from fractures near the pressure suppression chamber [lower part of containment vessel].

It was the first detailed inspection near the chamber. [...]

A huge volume of highly radioactive water, used to cool down the fuel, has since been leaking from the reactor, TEPCO said.

[link to ajw.asahi.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


bout time.
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This Sarcophagus is not a Moneyproblem,
in fact it would be the cheapest solution!

The molten Fuel is (according to the Nuclear Complex)
still inside of the Containment,
there is no Benefit in it to use a even bigger Containment!

The Way to go is
"Cooling and the cleaning of the cooling Water,
waiting while Cooling and cleaning this Water
and Invest Billions in our Education-System until
(at least) we find a solution for this Problem!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


How could anyone who has seen the aerial photos of the damage possibly believe that these reactors are in any way in containment. To the contrary, they are simply wide open festering wounds, which could have mountains of boron and sand dumped on top of them. (although SFP 4 needs to have it's rods removed.)

There is nothing that will stop pollution of the water except to stop pouring more water into it, and that can only be done by cutting the cord and capping it tight.
 Quoting: ehecatl


You just saw the Building itself but not the Containment!

When there is no Containment you would not see "leaking Water"
and you would not see Pressure inside of the Containment!

Also the cooling cycle would loose/ lose (?)
some/ more Water but this is not happening!
(at least according to the Data we can see)
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or just blubbering like our Buggy-Chan,
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Is that what I'm doing..?

cry since '68... End nuclear. No Nukes. Fuck you very much.
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"The molten Fuel is (according to the Nuclear Complex)
still inside of the Containment,
there is no Benefit in it to use a even bigger Containment!"
[link to enenews.com]

my understanding is the search for the melted corium continues

chances are it's on it's way to possible depth 1/2 mile down
truly this is all new territory
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here's yet another support article on fact...they have no clue where melted corium is
[link to www.japantimes.co.jp]
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If they buried it like at Chernobyl, there would be no need to cool it with water.
 Quoting: Silvershallows 462458


There's no way to contain something that's leaking from the bottom...and, into the sea. All the concrete in the world cannot contain it.

It's a conundrum which does not seem to have an answer.

verysad
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If they buried it like at Chernobyl, there would be no need to cool it with water.
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There's no way to contain something that's leaking from the bottom...and, into the sea. All the concrete in the world cannot contain it.

It's a conundrum which does not seem to have an answer.

verysad
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


You may not be able to protect the water (except to stop pouring more water on it, but the biggest (unnecessary) threat to land based creatures is the vapors that are still continuously being released into the atmosphere by corium, even when it is very deep, and so much more so when it creates steam.

This airborne element which is the greatest threat to the planet of the two (air/water), could be effectively filtered out if the vent were covered with a mountain of material.

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