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JUST-IN: Huge Leak of Radioactive Water in Fukushima No 2. Containment Vessel Fractured!

 
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"But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time for the dead to be judged, and to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth." (Rev 11:18)
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Before everybody panics and jumps on board the doom train, let's wait for independent confirmation. So far there seems to be one link to a single site dedicated to Fukushima. It's hardly confirmed.
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Saw this first on enenews, just like OP did cause all they did was cut and paste it and not mention where they got the info. Nice try

[link to enenews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11264499


Source: Iwakami Yasumi, Japanese journalist
Translation: Fukushima Diary
Date: Dec. 11, 2012

[link to fukushima-diary.com]

You fail. Nice try.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29705149


Based on what? This page doesn´t prove nothing!
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This is nothing new, this is happening
since Months (the leakage)

And please stop to mix up different Stories,
this do not help to understand the Situation!

The Story of the Hole/s is accurate, the Story
from the "Ambassador" is not.

Imo. the Hole/s must be very small,
not visible, the amount of leaked Water
is relativ small and the Hole/s cant be
that big.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


You must work for Tepco.. tell your boss we don't like slowly dieing from your slow leaking holes
 Quoting: novamom


And you must be unemployed!

This Story is nothing new,
it is happening since Months.

Maybe you People are just uninformed
because we can see all Information in
a permanent Update!
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12/12/2012 01:45 PM

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This is nothing new, this is happening
since Months (the leakage)

And please stop to mix up different Stories,
this do not help to understand the Situation!

The Story of the Hole/s is accurate, the Story
from the "Ambassador" is not.

Imo. the Hole/s must be very small,
not visible, the amount of leaked Water
is relativ small and the Hole/s cant be
that big.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


You must work for Tepco.. tell your boss we don't like slowly dieing from your slow leaking holes
 Quoting: novamom


And you must be unemployed!

This Story is nothing new,
it is happening since Months.

Maybe you People are just uninformed
because we can see all Information in
a permanent Update!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


does Tepco at least have good health insurance?

Last Edited by Dr. Acula on 12/12/2012 01:46 PM
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They lost control of that situation a long time ago, when the earthquake / tsunami struck. That's a global catastrophe, and probably irreparable. No amount of money or scientific knowledge can 'fix' complete and utter destruction, total ruin.
 Quoting: shenandoah 2636202


Meanwhile Russia is still in the process of building their multi-billion dollar sarcophagus to replace the old one...
 Quoting: BRIEF


This is not happening in "Russia"!
Russia avoided 20 Years to build a new Containment
until the European Community raised the 1.500.000.000 Euro
to build a new one in the Ukraine, which is
not in Russia bzt was occupied by the Soviets!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


Same difference dickwad...
I never forgive and I never forget

I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

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Fukushima isn't just located by the sea. It sits on the edge of a 20,000 foot cliff to the bottom of one of the biggest geologically active faults in the world. At some point, the whole thing is going into the ocean.
 Quoting: Resister


This is also not true,
the big Rift is 200-300 Km away on the east
Side!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


Geologically that is pretty darn close to an ocean that has already flooded the facility and quakes that have already caused intruding sea water to bubble up from the ground in places along the coast.


"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Before everybody panics and jumps on board the doom train, let's wait for independent confirmation. So far there seems to be one link to a single site dedicated to Fukushima. It's hardly confirmed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10777372


We know that they are leaking since Months,
but your imagination is wrong: The Containment
is not leaking like a old Barrel but Steel is not
a perfect Shield!

Forget the Image of a Torus with many Holes
created by a horney Porcupine!
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Re: JUST-IN: Huge Leak of Radioactive Water in Fukushima No 2. Containment Vessel Fractured!
This is nothing new, this is happening
since Months (the leakage)

And please stop to mix up different Stories,
this do not help to understand the Situation!

The Story of the Hole/s is accurate, the Story
from the "Ambassador" is not.

Imo. the Hole/s must be very small,
not visible, the amount of leaked Water
is relativ small and the Hole/s cant be
that big.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


You must work for Tepco.. tell your boss we don't like slowly dieing from your slow leaking holes
 Quoting: novamom


And you must be unemployed!

This Story is nothing new,
it is happening since Months.

Maybe you People are just uninformed
because we can see all Information in
a permanent Update!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427

Hardly unemployed and hardly uninformed (<--that part comes from my employment).... I was only pointing out that you gave the impression that a leak, even small was not a big deal. And I was saying that it is a BIG deal!
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Doom on a sandwich.



The idea of encapsulating the reactors is not feasible.
If it were, they would have already initiated that plan.

They know that the Russians were fortunate in that the
bulk of the core vaporized in the blast.
The levels near the reactor after the blast were at
300 S/hr.
What do you think 150 tons of melted core from one
Fuku reactor gives off..? And there are three melted
cores.
They don't even know where the cores are..

Chernobyl was one reactor. They were able to
tunnel under it, flood with water and boron,
cool the reactor and then enclose it. As it is, they did it too soon
and the concrete did not set properly, leading
to a second attempt to seal it off. How long will it last,
this time..?

Fuku is a different animal.
Volcanic island, high water table, three reactors with
fully melted cores and unimaginable, lethal levels of radiation..
and heat way beyond what would
allow concrete to be effective.

As I have said.. we don't have the technology.
We're pretty much fucked, but no official will ever
say it.

TMI...............strike one.

Chernobyl.............strike two.

Fukushima-Daiichi................. hi
Dr Einstein

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Doom on a sandwich.



The idea of encapsulating the reactors is not feasible.
If it were, they would have already initiated that plan.

They know that the Russians were fortunate in that the
bulk of the core vaporized in the blast.
The levels near the reactor after the blast were at
300 S/hr.
What do you think 150 tons of melted core from one
Fuku reactor gives off..? And there are three melted
cores.
They don't even know where the cores are..

Chernobyl was one reactor. They were able to
tunnel under it, flood with water and boron,
cool the reactor and then enclose it. As it is, they did it too soon
and the concrete did not set properly, leading
to a second attempt to seal it off. How long will it last,
this time..?

Fuku is a different animal.
Volcanic island, high water table, three reactors with
fully melted cores and unimaginable, lethal levels of radiation..
and heat way beyond what would
allow concrete to be effective.

As I have said.. we don't have the technology.
We're pretty much fucked, but no official will ever
say it.

TMI...............strike one.

Chernobyl.............strike two.

Fukushima-Daiichi................. hi
 Quoting: Waterbug


ohhhhhh, we are so screwed.
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fuk-us-hi-ma
is different too in the use of "mox" fuel
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Could this possibly be called a national security issue?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29704807


these japanese morons are putting the whole world at risk.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


LOL funny to see that coming from a yankee, remember Hiroshima, cowboy?
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Doom on a sandwich.



The idea of encapsulating the reactors is not feasible.
If it were, they would have already initiated that plan.

They know that the Russians were fortunate in that the
bulk of the core vaporized in the blast.
The levels near the reactor after the blast were at
300 S/hr.
What do you think 150 tons of melted core from one
Fuku reactor gives off..? And there are three melted
cores.
They don't even know where the cores are..

Chernobyl was one reactor. They were able to
tunnel under it, flood with water and boron,
cool the reactor and then enclose it. As it is, they did it too soon
and the concrete did not set properly, leading
to a second attempt to seal it off. How long will it last,
this time..?

Fuku is a different animal.
Volcanic island, high water table, three reactors with
fully melted cores and unimaginable, lethal levels of radiation..
and heat way beyond what would
allow concrete to be effective.

As I have said.. we don't have the technology.
We're pretty much fucked, but no official will ever
say it.

TMI...............strike one.

Chernobyl.............strike two.

Fukushima-Daiichi................. hi
 Quoting: Waterbug


ohhhhhh, we are so screwed.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


fortunately, Dec. 21 is coming to put us all out of our misery :)
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I said way back that Fukufucku was the real doom. At this rate we'll be living 'The Road' real soon...
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@ Novamum,
yeah, a first impression is not always
the Reality, maybe i am the most
concerned Person of the whole Glp
because this is a real danger for Japan
and the rest of the whole World!

But the danger by this Water is not that
big, the Water for the cooling is running
in a cycle, cooling and than filtering and
a reverse Osmosis, for the Filter there
is not a huge difference where the Water
is coming from!

The only important thing is; why are there
this Holes?
Coming from the Pressure?
Coming from the Saltwater?
and
coming from the molten Core (!!!)?
Waterbug

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@ Novamum,
yeah, a first impression is not always
the Reality, maybe i am the most
concerned Person of the whole Glp
because this is a real danger for Japan
and the rest of the whole World!

But the danger by this Water is not that
big, the Water for the cooling is running
in a cycle, cooling and than filtering and
a reverse Osmosis, for the Filter there
is not a huge difference where the Water
is coming from!

The only important thing is; why are there
this Holes?
Coming from the Pressure?
Coming from the Saltwater?
and
coming from the molten Core (!!!)?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


Nice try.

Here ya go, whatever your name is this week......
From your heroes at tepco...
By the way.. I told you a long time ago that the vessel was cracked.

This explains the discrepancy between water in
and water out to the decontamination system... which is also full of leaks.



TEPCO unable to locate source of leak in Fukushima reactor
[link to www.nucpros.com]

[snip]

It was the first detailed inspection near the chamber.

Nuclear fuel in the No. 2 reactor melted following the earthquake and tsunami disaster last year.

A huge volume of highly radioactive water, used to cool down the fuel, has since been leaking from the reactor, TEPCO said.
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Off topic but... if there ever is a pole shift obviously there will be massive amounts of death because of the event itself but with all of the nuclear power plants all over the planet, wouldn't it be safe to assume that any survivers of the pole shift would just die from radiation exposure? Surely a pole shift would be the death of us all. There is no survival for annyone if ever a pole shift happens. What say you?
Waterbug

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fortunately, Dec. 21 is coming to put us all out of our misery :)
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Party like it's 1999...

partyon
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This is nothing new, this is happening
since Months (the leakage)

And please stop to mix up different Stories,
this do not help to understand the Situation!

The Story of the Hole/s is accurate, the Story
from the "Ambassador" is not.

Imo. the Hole/s must be very small,
not visible, the amount of leaked Water
is relativ small and the Hole/s cant be
that big.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


You must work for Tepco.. tell your boss we don't like slowly dieing from your slow leaking holes
 Quoting: novamom


And you must be unemployed!

This Story is nothing new,
it is happening since Months.

Maybe you People are just uninformed
because we can see all Information in
a permanent Update!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


At least you admit you're working for Tepco. Now we know to take everything you say as an agenda for them.
Waterbug

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Off topic but... if there ever is a pole shift obviously there will be massive amounts of death because of the event itself but with all of the nuclear power plants all over the planet, wouldn't it be safe to assume that any survivers of the pole shift would just die from radiation exposure? Surely a pole shift would be the death of us all. There is no survival for annyone if ever a pole shift happens. What say you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1566391


Yep.

Who would want to survive..?
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This is nothing new, this is happening
since Months (the leakage)

And please stop to mix up different Stories,
this do not help to understand the Situation!

The Story of the Hole/s is accurate, the Story
from the "Ambassador" is not.

Imo. the Hole/s must be very small,
not visible, the amount of leaked Water
is relativ small and the Hole/s cant be
that big.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


You must work for Tepco.. tell your boss we don't like slowly dieing from your slow leaking holes
 Quoting: novamom


And you must be unemployed!

This Story is nothing new,
it is happening since Months.

Maybe you People are just uninformed
because we can see all Information in
a permanent Update!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


At least you admit you're working for Tepco. Now we know to take everything you say as an agenda for them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25781251


I would smoke less pot if I were you, you really think this is true, don't you? lol "evil doers are evil dreaders"
Waterbug

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...


You must work for Tepco.. tell your boss we don't like slowly dieing from your slow leaking holes
 Quoting: novamom


And you must be unemployed!

This Story is nothing new,
it is happening since Months.

Maybe you People are just uninformed
because we can see all Information in
a permanent Update!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29256427


At least you admit you're working for Tepco. Now we know to take everything you say as an agenda for them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25781251


I would smoke less pot if I were you, you really think this is true, don't you? lol "evil doers are evil dreaders"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29611178



Atom-bot has admitted his prejudice...

What is your agenda..?
Anonymous Coward
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from Waterbugs Source+

A remote-controlled robot is now scouring the basement of the reactor building that houses the pressure suppression chamber to pinpoint the cause of the leak.

Tokyo Electric Power Co. said it was unable to identify the source of the leak when the robot inspected one of the eight vent pipes that connect the chamber with the containment vessel on Dec. 11.

[link to www.nucpros.com]
1 done and 7 to go,
this is not sooooooo bad!
Dr Einstein

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fortunately, Dec. 21 is coming to put us all out of our misery :)
 Quoting: Dr Einstein



Party like it's 1999...

partyon
 Quoting: Waterbug


yup. i'm looking forward to lots of panic sex.
it's gonna be a long night, for sure.

5a
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Why isn't the United States involved with this? We stick are noses in everything else globally.
I can't understand how middle east oil is more important than the contamination of the entire Earth...
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. -Carl Sagan.
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Why isn't the United States involved with this? We stick are noses in everything else globally.
I can't understand how middle east oil is more important than the contamination of the entire Earth...
 Quoting: SaltyFlats


the UN needs to take control of this situation and
get the U.S., China, and Russia to fix this mess, and
the Japanese can just step-aside and pay all the bills as we go.
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we need to get rid of all our nuclear power plants asap, its just an accident waiting to happen

Is this from the EQ near fukashima again yesterday?
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Why isn't the United States involved with this? We stick are noses in everything else globally.
I can't understand how middle east oil is more important than the contamination of the entire Earth...
 Quoting: SaltyFlats


Because the Japanese Companies are the Nr. 1
of Nuclear Technology!

The USA didn't build a Nuclear Power-plant
since Three Miles Island which is nearly 3 decades ago!
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Why isn't the United States involved with this? We stick are noses in everything else globally.
I can't understand how middle east oil is more important than the contamination of the entire Earth...
 Quoting: SaltyFlats


the UN needs to take control of this situation and
get the U.S., China, and Russia to fix this mess, and
the Japanese can just step-aside and pay all the bills as we go.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


and, out of the goodness of our hearts, we'll give
the Japanese 100 years to pay off the 1 trillion dollars
expenses that will pile-up.





GLP