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Have you come across a person who may be a true psychopath....

 
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Re: Have you come across a person who may be a true psychopath....
our band's bass player, got arrested for attacking a guy with an axe, didn't lock him up because he was not sane enough.

he always uses manipulation to get/say what he wants,and sees people simple as victims, comes out for this too, would that fit the description?
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I play bass.

Yeah kinda what its like, except we don't know where manipulating 24/7. We know where manipulative but we trick ourselves into thinking were normal.

We don't really fit in so instead of trying to fit in we become awesome.

Id rather have a cheer leading team encourage me then a loving girlfriend.

Speaking of girlfriends Ive walked out on plenty of girls who looked me dead in the eyes and said "I love you" or "please don't make this a one night stand"
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Preferring the background deep sounds of bass and drums to the front instruments is actually something of a psychopathic trait I've noticed over the years. The deep, low tones and ryhthm as opposed to the "story" of vocals and the more vibrant instruments and segments of the music.
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Preferring the background deep sounds of bass and drums to the front instruments is actually something of a psychopathic trait I've noticed over the years. The deep, low tones and ryhthm as opposed to the "story" of vocals and the more vibrant instruments and segments of the music.
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seriously? I don't see why this would be a sign of psychopathological behaviour. hell, I'm listzening to music most people would probably consider fairly bizarre or just annoying, and it fairly often can consist of mainly "deep, low tones and ryhthm" and worse, but I don't consider myself to be pathological.
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Re: Have you come across a person who may be a true psychopath....
What would you do if you did?

This person is would not be an emotional manipulator . His manipulations use all tools, and are hidden.

He may or may not be dangerous at this time. He would be a true psychopath, not made, somehow formed.

He still has a high prestige career, and living the high life, leaving broken lives behind him.

If you were aware and he wasn't yet, could you use his tricks against him?
 Quoting: Aunty Flo


yes

and it was a she not a he
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Re: Have you come across a person who may be a true psychopath....
our band's bass player, got arrested for attacking a guy with an axe, didn't lock him up because he was not sane enough.

he always uses manipulation to get/say what he wants,and sees people simple as victims, comes out for this too, would that fit the description?
 Quoting: ...333...


I play bass.

Yeah kinda what its like, except we don't know where manipulating 24/7. We know where manipulative but we trick ourselves into thinking were normal.

We don't really fit in so instead of trying to fit in we become awesome.

Id rather have a cheer leading team encourage me then a loving girlfriend.

Speaking of girlfriends Ive walked out on plenty of girls who looked me dead in the eyes and said "I love you" or "please don't make this a one night stand"
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As if.
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12/13/2012 05:29 PM

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Re: Have you come across a person who may be a true psychopath....
Could you use his tricks to outwit him?

His "tricks" would be like entering into a power play that could easily escalate the chaotic mental orchestration. The psychopath would recognize the game you are using to try to undermine or control him.

I wouldn't try to use his game to outwit him even if you are more intelligent or even if you area a great subversive actress.
There may be times to use his game to get what you want but it would exhausing to stay in that frame of mind.

I'd use the tried and true behavior of Non-Reaction.
Display a flat affect to his attempts to sway, dominate or lie. Have a pre-prepared list of things to say to diffuse his words or behaviors, such as;

"I'm sorry you feel that way."
"Thats too bad."
"Uh-uh. I see."
Just neutral statements. Nothing more.

Deflect his wiley ways to mundane activites or change the subject.

"Is Survivor on tonight?"
"These cabinets are awful. I think I'm going to paint them."
"Geez. Look at what the neighbor kids did to that garage door."
Anything. Anything at all to STOP his command of the situation.
He won't like it. But you'll not have entered into his world of crazy-making.

I dunno. If you had a specific incident as an example it would help define what kind of psychopath you are describing.
 Quoting: Hellena Handbasket


I meant on a bigger level, not a personal level. Catching one and putting him away.
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No, when you see a psychopath you realise how 'special' they really are. Damaged little boys and girls going around acting like psychopaths, are not true psychopaths.
 Quoting: Aunty Flo


I worked with one recently, this dude is still only a kid (19), but he only uses people as tools to do what he wants them to do. One of the best liers I've ever seen.

Not a bright fellow, but wants to become a lawyer. Since lawyers are stupid and many psychopaths, he'll fit in fine.
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Sounds like a little turd who needs a kick in the pants.

An example, a parent disciplines a child, normal child says sorry, a born psychopath will look at loop holes in the parents disciplining style, maybe a weakness. Maybe they work out that they're parent is easily distracted, something, a weakness. Instead of bringing it to the attention of the parent, the child will start abusing the loop hole.

For example, I will tell my son that he must turn all electronics off in 20 minutes. 1 hour later my son will come out and tell me his DVD's finished and can he put another one on. Did my son not listen to me, when I told him I want electronics off? He may be tired. But a child with psychopathic traits, may have noticed that I am easily distracted, can see why I am distracted, and will work that in to getting his own way.

A child works out the power level in a house easily. If he has siblings, he will be the centre of all the bullshit, but instead of fighting and screaming with his brothers, he will be the one holding the parent.
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You just inferred that your son is a psychopath.




Bad parenting is not NECESSARILY an indicator of psychopathy, and your child ignoring you is just your child ignoring you.

I have known real motherfucking psychopaths. One was nice as pie to adults, raped other boys. The other skinned a cat alive to show others.


If your kid hasn't skinned a cat alive, or raped anybody, or plots to kill people in his spare time, he is not a psychopath. Now shut the fuck up about your kid on GLP because if he reads this shit it WILL mess him up for life and then you'll be a REALLY bad parent.
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Idiot poster. What the fuck are you talking about?
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Re: Have you come across a person who may be a true psychopath....
Oh for gods sake people. Educate yourselves! Most psychopaths function within the law. They don't torture and kill. They emotionally abuse their victims who are usually family, spouses, coworkers/employees... And they get away with it because no one knows what they are.
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I believe a true psychopath eventually kills. No doubt.
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Re: Have you come across a person who may be a true psychopath....
true psychopath
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define please?
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You will know his real self but you will also see his public exterior. It is his protection in case you decide to try to expose him. Very few people will believe you since the psychopath's reputation is very carefully crafted. People may accuse you of making things up or of being vindictive. Another trait of psychopath is to make you in their debt. That is they will do minor things for you and then come back to say you owe them. The psychopath, in the beginning, will always agree with your particular beliefs and morals. This is so he will be trusted by you and once that is achieved he will be able to manipulate you and get what he wants. Another trait is the compulsive liar, repatedly and consistently. All this behaviors are chronologically ordered -- he knows what he is doing and will never jeopardize his control over his victims by exposing his true intentions too early. Once he has you his heartless cruelty will be continuous, though he will tell you different. Total mind fuck..

PS the gendre he/his = she/her, and vice versa...
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12/13/2012 07:07 PM
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Yes. My second wife. She had borderline personality disorder. The saying goes, "Where do women with BPD end up? In therapy. Where do men with BPD end up? In prison."
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


BPD doesn't exist. It's a label created by the psychiatry profession so they could make money off psychopathic and sociopathic individuals. Everyone knows these people are untreatable, but to the psychhiatry industry there is no profit in "untreatable".
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Re: Have you come across a person who may be a true psychopath....
Yes I have and it was a she not a he.

They are much more common than you think. It is a real problem. They are predators and the rest of us are their prey. They have no empathy. None. If you truly understand the importance of empathy you would shudder to think of what a total lack of it would mean. It means they have no capacity to consider or relate how someone else would feel, and they don't care. They can run a knife through you the same way you'd poke a sharpened pencil through a piece of notebook paper out of boredom.

They are not necessarily smart yet possess an incredible ability to manipulate people in complex ways, yet it seems more instinctual just as a tiger knows how to prowl. They are usually very attracted and well liked. Over time if they are "successful" at life they learn how to emulate emotions and "normal" human behavior. Sometimes they even reach high positions of power. After all they are perfectly suited for the corporate environment which itself is psychopathic in nature.

I was married to one. She ended up in jail, and I and a few others barely escaped with our lives.
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You need to tell your story perhaps on a different thread.
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Stay away from suspicious people! They will steal from you and fuck you up! The only true way to know who is a psychopath is to smile and come across as sincere and if they know you are doing that then they will slowly show you who they are and what they're intentions are. Come across as very DUMB and STUPID. They will show their true colors thinking that you don't know shit when you actually do.
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This really works. I am hard of hearing (almost deaf actually) and for some reason people think if you can't hear them very well you are stupid. They often don't even try to hide themselves if they think you are a little slow. I can read people pretty well, usually within the first 5 minutes of meeting them. One of the good things about not being able to hear is your ability to read body language and facial expressions become very well developed. The face and eyes will often reveal intentions through what is called micro-expressions, quick little expressions that most people miss. Even dilation of the eye pupils is an important indicator. Want to know who is a psychopath who is a nice person? Make a deaf friend. We are like bloodhounds.
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Re: Have you come across a person who may be a true psychopath....
They are born that way. There is no way to save them.
I've heard it called a deformity of the brain.
I call it born without a soul.
It reminds me of what Jesus said about an empty house and the spirits moving in.
They are the most evil among us and make it to powerful places I believe.
Hidden evil is the worst kind of evil.
I knew a girl like that and I was her roommate when we were children.
She had all of the adults around us fooled and often tormented her stepsister where few of us could hear it saying things like:"Hey Christina,our parents aren't getting you anything for Christmas because I told them you stole such and such."
Christina had not.
The psychopath made wonderful grades, could sing, I really looked up to her and liked her at first.
Everyone around thought those of us who knew her were jealous of her.
The girl who was my roommate before was way prettier in anyone's book,more talented, smarter and nicer.
Why it never occurred to any of the adults that we all loved her is beyond me.
I've often wondered, after I left whether or not the others
adults and kids who didn't TRULY know her, ever figured her out?
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Re: Have you come across a person who may be a true psychopath....
What would you do if you did?

This person is would not be an emotional manipulator . His manipulations use all tools, and are hidden.

He may or may not be dangerous at this time. He would be a true psychopath, not made, somehow formed.

He still has a high prestige career, and living the high life, leaving broken lives behind him.

If you were aware and he wasn't yet, could you use his tricks against him?
 Quoting: Aunty Flo


I have one in my family. My sister.

A true psychopath feels no remorse and cannot appologize. They pretend at empathy really well. But you can tell its fake. I have seen actual tears.

I was not aware they could cry.

Sighs. But yes. she is truly gone crazy. When we were all kids small she would beat us with moms high heel shoes. She threw me down stairs trying to kill me. She threw our mother down the stairs and broke her back.
She beat up her ex hubby so bad for watching internet porn he left and divorced her next day.

She is gone. She has excellent job. nice house. and talks so sweet. and everyone does not see it.

However she did make the mistake once of letting go in front of my hubby. So her credibility was shot right then. SO I feel better at least.

Am I afraid it carries over to me? ya. Sinse we are only half sisters I think the odds went down a lot.
I cant appologize and see where I did things wrong. Do I enjoy torturing? bugs yes. rofl. no. I kill them though.

sighs. I will never feel normal thanks to her. I will always doubt my sanity thanks to her.

But to know a true psychopath? yes I know one.

I do not want to try to figure out how to turn her crap against her. I avoid her. Cause I know one time she will let loose and succeed in killing me where she failed twice before.
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correction. sorry.

I CAN appologize. hit post too soon.
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Re: Have you come across a person who may be a true psychopath....
Yes and after 6 years of peace she's back in the same state. Damn girl tried to blame a friend for rape when she was screwing someone outside a club. Only problem was I was talking to the guy she blamed for rape while she was in her car screwing some other guy but didn't want her husband to know so she blamed the security guy I was talking too. I won't mention names but he was a star athlete in college who went on to make it big. Had it not been for me and the video camera he'd probably be a sex offender the way that girl made others believe her. She fits the term 'psychopath' to a tee in all categories of the word.
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correction. sorry.

I CAN appologize. hit post too soon.
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I think you did a great job on your post hf
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They are all over the internet and they will tell you that you don't know what a psychopath is there is clubs of psychopaths trying to change peoples idea of what one is.
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Yes and after 6 years of peace she's back in the same state. Damn girl tried to blame a friend for rape when she was screwing someone outside a club. Only problem was I was talking to the guy she blamed for rape while she was in her car screwing some other guy but didn't want her husband to know so she blamed the security guy I was talking too. I won't mention names but he was a star athlete in college who went on to make it big. Had it not been for me and the video camera he'd probably be a sex offender the way that girl made others believe her. She fits the term 'psychopath' to a tee in all categories of the word.
 Quoting: girlonfire


That sounds like a horrible nightmare in the shape of a girl!
What makes them tick that way?
Crazy!
I'm female too by the way.
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Yes and after 6 years of peace she's back in the same state. Damn girl tried to blame a friend for rape when she was screwing someone outside a club. Only problem was I was talking to the guy she blamed for rape while she was in her car screwing some other guy but didn't want her husband to know so she blamed the security guy I was talking too. I won't mention names but he was a star athlete in college who went on to make it big. Had it not been for me and the video camera he'd probably be a sex offender the way that girl made others believe her. She fits the term 'psychopath' to a tee in all categories of the word.
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Not a psychopath mentally insane yes but not a psychopath they would not have made a mistake
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They are all over the internet and they will tell you that you don't know what a psychopath is there is clubs of psychopaths trying to change peoples idea of what one is.
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It scares me that some psychiatrists actually think they can give them a conscience with therapy?
Where did those psychiatrists get their doctorate, buy it at Kmart?
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Re: Have you come across a person who may be a true psychopath....
What would you do if you did?

This person is would not be an emotional manipulator . His manipulations use all tools, and are hidden.

He may or may not be dangerous at this time. He would be a true psychopath, not made, somehow formed.

He still has a high prestige career, and living the high life, leaving broken lives behind him.

If you were aware and he wasn't yet, could you use his tricks against him?
 Quoting: Aunty Flo


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I know one. She tried to kill me twice, and molested my son. She beat up her parents and grandmother and stole close to $100 grand using forgery to do it. And when the parents died, she created fake wills for both of them and stole her oldest sister's inheritence.
She had a rich boyfriend, cleaned him out.
But, her brother is is even worse. He used to molest little girls.
And the sister closest to her in age is a bonafide sociopath, acts like a shy librarian while she's secretly plotting with the psychopath sister.
I don't know how the oldest sister got out alive, but she did.
If you are near Houston, stay far far away from this bitch,
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Obummer

Hare and his colleagues reported that psychopaths, especially when talking about things they should find emotional, such as their families, produce a higher frequency of beats than normal people. It's as if emotional language is a second language -- a foreign language, in effect -- to the psychopath.

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