Breaking CNN: The Oregon mall shooter used an AR15 that jammed!!

Just another example of stupidity produced by TV, video games, and shitty school systems. If he knew better, he would have just invested his money in cigarettes. He could have killed 100,000's more.

One thing I have realized though. Never rely on a gun that isn't yours. Especially if you don't know how to make it work.

I don't even own an AR, but operator error is usually the problem. Also, its funny the fact that apparently AR's only jam whenever a serial killer attempts to use them, yet a normal shooter's maintained gun will put 3k rounds down range without a problem.

Witnesses in the parking lot that saw him going into the mall, report he dropped something on the way in.... " something that looked like it held bullets" as it was small and black and box shaped.

He may have damaged or bent his second magazine, thus keeping it from feeding properly.

FBI just stated he was thought to have only had 2-3 magazines total. Rifle confirmed stolen.

So I have to ask, where was the trigger lock accessory that should have been in place when stored away and not in use?, had his friend kept the lock on the rifle, it would not have been used.

Um, I own both platforms. They are both great in their own respect, but I've had more issues with my ak than ar. My $.02.

$20 pair of bolt cutters will take care of the lock... Shit they can be picked fairly easy...

Yup, because locks are impenetrable.

Gun safe is the only way to really stop the thief because trigger locks can be easily picked without even a tool, and then theres bolt cutters...

My DPMS has only run through 500 but not a single hiccup. Unfortunately I lost it in a terrible Mojave canoe accident.

ASK yourself this question?

Why do all the shooters guns jam?

Is there something being done to the ammo or the guns to cause this?

but but but my AR cost $1500! how can a $400 AK be SO much better??!!!

bwahahahahahah tacticool=tactitwots

Insider tip?

Yea. My AR has never jammed. Its called maintenance. Not saying that it wont ever do it. But using decent ammo and cleaning after a day at the range does wonders. Though the AR is flawed in many ways, mainly the whole "shitting where it eats" bit

and my RRA has around the same amount of rounds through it. With no FTE/FTF. You go ahead and pay twice as much for the same tool

A modern M4 feed lips, military magazines, and piston driven AR15 is easily as reliable as a modern AK with a military chamber, military (com-block) magazines, and piston driven.

Any difference between the platforms has disappeared. What is left is the following:

Steel AK magazines can be used as blunt weapons or be run over by a vehicle and still function.

AK ammunition and magazines weight significantly more. An AR operator can carry more magazines and ammunition.

It is a wash. Choose well.

but 1 round of 7.62x39 vaprizes the target, 10 hits with 5.56 just gets thier attention

Alright so I was cooking and I think ABC? just showed their story for it, and I must say this still isn't adding up.

One of his hobbies was "shooting" (someone is either a very inexperienced shooter or he just liked guns) and he has an AR tattoo.

Also, how many CCW holders were in that mall at the time I wonder...

NOBODY'S BUSINESS.

The thing regarding the AK I find the most interesting occurred at the onset of the Russian campaign in Chechnya.

Unlike the U.S. military, the Russian front line troops are rarely issued body armor (too expensive). Russian troops, being used to doing without, came up with an novel idea. They began using fully loaded heavy steel magazines loaded with steel cased rounds slung across their chest as improvised body armor, some would even mount them on their backpacks for rear protection. It is quite a sight and kept many alive against all odds.

Unfortunately for the Russian troops, the army had decided to begin the switch over to thermoplastic magazines. The troops continued to use them as before, having no choice. The result was deadly. When hit by a projectile, they would shatter even worse than the steel magazines. However, the steel magazines shrapnel could easily be found with even the most basic of field x-ray equipment. Sometimes, even with a powerful magnet. Thermoplastic, on the other hand, is much more difficult (if not impossible) to find remnants in the body using field equipment.

Many simply bled to death. It was glorious.

Care to price quote the above mentioned M4? An AK can still be had for under $500. And the ammo is less expensive.

In the end, however, use whichever weapon you function best with. If you are proficient with jamming, then by all means, choose the AR platform. Unless you can afford really reliable M4 clone, which typically start above $1500.

I'm surprised that GLP hasn't given this situation more attention....but, hey, same shit, different day....

I'm sure as time goes by GLP will uncover the truth of it and debunk MSM lies about it.

Obviously the M4 will cost more, as will the ammunition and magazines. This was done under the assumption that someone had the means to choose either. If you cannot afford one of the choices, then you really have no choice and none of this matters.

Fuck him Redpaw......

only jams for morons that don't understand how to clean it, but AK is better for idiots to use.

nice thing about the AR is the round size and wieght

So his gun jammed and his probable. Victims still allowed him to make it out alive? Fucking pussies😷they should have went ape shit on him and bashed his skull in. Wtf americaaa

And this guy shot himself with an AR15? yeah right, mindless Americans need to wake up, you are being played for the fat fools you are.

Fuck you.

THESE ARE KIDS...WITH NO FORMAL WEAPONS TRAINING...ONLY ILLUSIONS FROM HOLLYWOOD...IF THEY HAD TRAINING THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND TO RESPECT SUCH TOOLS......WEAPONS OPERATION IS A SKILL...ONLY AQUIRED THROUGH PARCTICE....LIKE MARTAIL ARTS...AND DANCING

If it jammed how did he shoot his self?

really? you wanna rethink that?