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Disgusting Holiday message: Atheists dub Jesus a 'myth' on Times Square billboard

 
christian (OP)
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If GOD can convert PAGANS he surely can convert a Pagan Holiday to his GLORY!

 Quoting: christian


seems to me History does not show Any god converting very many pagans. From what I see, MEN with swords and guns converted pagans by force!
 Quoting: viking thunder



No one I know was converted by Guns or Swords and I bet neither was anyone on this site or anyone you know...
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Satan ..sorry Santa jolly with his read hat

and underneath the picture of Our Lord during His agony on the cross and the word dump..the myth

and below on the street people in NY walking past not even looking up..going about their daily business..

Says it all

If that doesnt send a chill up your spine..a premonition.. I dont know what does..
 Quoting: wildhoney


Amen Wildhoney..

This how FALLEN mankind has become.....

Satan rules this world now, however we know not for long....
 Quoting: christian


Try anyone pulling that off that in my home town..put a billboard like that up over here..try it
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Re: Disgusting Holiday message: Atheists dub Jesus a 'myth' on Times Square billboard
Satan ..sorry Santa jolly with his read hat

and underneath the picture of Our Lord during His agony on the cross and the word dump..the myth

and below on the street people in NY walking past not even looking up..going about their daily business..

Says it all

If that doesnt send a chill up your spine..a premonition.. I dont know what does..
 Quoting: wildhoney


Amen Wildhoney..

This how FALLEN mankind has become.....

Satan rules this world now, however we know not for long....
 Quoting: christian


Try anyone pulling that off that in my home town..put a billboard like that up over here..try it
 Quoting: wildhoney


Challenge accepted, just give me a spot to put it up!
We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves?
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Re: Disgusting Holiday message: Atheists dub Jesus a 'myth' on Times Square billboard
Jesus is a myth. So is Satan.

Do you hear yourselves? You are so angry.
Atheists are one of the most prosecuted groups
In this country. Check this thread if you don't see it.
We have just as much a right to tell people he is a myth than you do to tell people he is a fact.
Just as much fucking right.
Go watch red state.
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Re: Disgusting Holiday message: Atheists dub Jesus a 'myth' on Times Square billboard
No such thing as bad press. Keeps the name JESUS up in lights at the centre of the known universe (Times Square in NYC). I used to be an atheist of this same ilk, and now I'm born again. Some of the most outspoken atheists are on the same path I was, and they'll likely also be born again, hopefully sooner than later.

Don't get mad -- pray for them. That's what Jesus told us to do. That's what my grandmother did for me for 36 years. Her prayers finally kicked in shortly before she died. She lived just long enough to see what everyone else (myself included) never in a million years would have thought possible -- me becoming a Christian.

I think it's wonderful when atheists speak out about Jesus. At least someone's keeping the name that's above all name on people's minds (Christians aren't that good about it these days) and it gives us clear-cut prayer targets. So, I see this atheist ad as win-win!

Jesus warned us we'd be hated and persecuted, but he also told us not to gripe about it because we, through God's spirit, have overcome the world. It's all good!

Merry Christmas, OP!
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Satan ..sorry Santa jolly with his read hat

and underneath the picture of Our Lord during His agony on the cross and the word dump..the myth

and below on the street people in NY walking past not even looking up..going about their daily business..

Says it all

If that doesnt send a chill up your spine..a premonition.. I dont know what does..
 Quoting: wildhoney


Amen Wildhoney..

This how FALLEN mankind has become.....

Satan rules this world now, however we know not for long....
 Quoting: christian


Try anyone pulling that off that in my home town..put a billboard like that up over here..try it
 Quoting: wildhoney


Challenge accepted, just give me a spot to put it up!
 Quoting: Sneetch


Spain is different ;)
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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If GOD can convert PAGANS he surely can convert a Pagan Holiday to his GLORY!

 Quoting: christian


seems to me History does not show Any god converting very many pagans. From what I see, MEN with swords and guns converted pagans by force!
 Quoting: viking thunder



No one I know was converted by Guns or Swords and I bet neither was anyone on this site or anyone you know...
 Quoting: christian


Nor were you a Pagan. Most all pagan religions were wiped out centuries ago by Men with swords and more recently guns, who forcefully converted them to Christianity.

The only Reason the christian religion is so large today is because they went about converting all the known world by force for hundreds of years.
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No such thing as bad press. Keeps the name JESUS up in lights at the centre of the known universe (Times Square in NYC). I used to be an atheist of this same ilk, and now I'm born again. Some of the most outspoken atheists are on the same path I was, and they'll likely also be born again, hopefully sooner than later.

Don't get mad -- pray for them. That's what Jesus told us to do. That's what my grandmother did for me for 36 years. Her prayers finally kicked in shortly before she died. She lived just long enough to see what everyone else (myself included) never in a million years would have thought possible -- me becoming a Christian.

I think it's wonderful when atheists speak out about Jesus. At least someone's keeping the name that's above all name on people's minds (Christians aren't that good about it these days) and it gives us clear-cut prayer targets. So, I see this atheist ad as win-win!

Jesus warned us we'd be hated and persecuted, but he also told us not to gripe about it because we, through God's spirit, have overcome the world. It's all good!

Merry Christmas, OP!
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MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU! GOD BLESS YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY!
Susie

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we have just as much a right to say he doesn't exist.
What makes your claim any more valid?
Do you not live in the real world?

Show me miracles. Show me this magic.
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Funny. It's 2012 and the entire planet is still at war over who has the most powerful invisible friend....5a
 Quoting: Elsabiades.... 28025858


You haven't seen nothing yet
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But neither have you; so there...bsflag
 Quoting: Elsabiades... 28025858


BUT until you have a mystical experience by the Holy Spirit you will never know.

Jesus DOES exist and a lot of people will be crapping themselves when the Illumination of souls comes (also known as the Warning).
"When you don't keep your word, you lose credibility and trustworthy friends"
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If GOD can convert PAGANS he surely can convert a Pagan Holiday to his GLORY!

 Quoting: christian


seems to me History does not show Any god converting very many pagans. From what I see, MEN with swords and guns converted pagans by force!
 Quoting: viking thunder



No one I know was converted by Guns or Swords and I bet neither was anyone on this site or anyone you know...
 Quoting: christian


Nor were you a Pagan. Most all pagan religions were wiped out centuries ago by Men with swords and more recently guns, who forcefully converted them to Christianity.

The only Reason the christian religion is so large today is because they went about converting all the known world by force for hundreds of years.
 Quoting: viking thunder


No one will remain anything by *FORCE* they will either die or:
they will eventually go back to what they wanted..

The Pagans did not want to go back to Paganisim, after they found the FREEDOM in the Gospel message.....
Susie

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Oh is this your final prediction then?
You guys have been wrong for thousands of years.
Don't hold your fucking breath.
When is it? Let us know chauncy....
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Whoooooooo cares. I love Jesus, I think he's the bee's knees. So what? People disagreeing about things!?!?!?!?!?!? MY WORD! e.e Get a grip, people.
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i wish more religious people were like you
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we have just as much a right to say he doesn't exist.
What makes your claim any more valid?
Do you not live in the real world?

Show me miracles. Show me this magic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2703300


MATTHEW 12:39


He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.

Susie

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Spain is different ;)
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Won't know until you try. yeahsure
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Spain is different ;)
 Quoting: wildhoney


Won't know until you try. yeahsure
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let me know..
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Praise to Him in reparation for these offences
Love to Him in reparation for these offences
rose


Last Edited by wildhoney on 12/12/2012 04:53 PM
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Jesus is a myth. So is Satan.

Do you hear yourselves? You are so angry.
Atheists are one of the most prosecuted groups
In this country. Check this thread if you don't see it.
We have just as much a right to tell people he is a myth than you do to tell people he is a fact.
Just as much fucking right.
Go watch red state.
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You have obviously never been presented with real evil...
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Not only that, but almost every aspect of how they celebrate "christmas" was stolen from other religions around the world.

biggest show of hypocrisy I have ever seen!!!
 Quoting: viking thunder


you don't know anything. Nothing about Christmas
was ever stolen from any other local custom or
festival. What you're referring to is merely the
transition of local cultures infusing some of
their long-standing traditions into the celebration,
and nothing more.

The truth is that a growing number of people
especially those young enough not to know better
and whom are thoroughly uneducated and uninformed
are getting too much deceptive, baseless tripe
off the internet. Jesus was real. There is no
doubt about it in 2000 years, and that truth
exists totally apart from your or anyone else's
lack of knowledge.
Good Day.
 Quoting: RDprofessor


You, my friend, know ABSOLUTELY nothing about the history behind this. there were no cultures infusing traditions. The church actively changed their own ceremonies and traditions when they moved into a new area in an attempt to more easily convert the locals. The locals did not color the traditions. The traditions were intentionally changed by outsiders moving to a new area to convert people.

From the tree, to the presents, to the decorations, to the traditions, EVERY SINGLE part of the christmas holiday as it is celebrated today has been stolen from past pagan tradition. Christmas as it is celebrated today is absolutely a PAGAN holiday.
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everything you just said is untrue garbage.
I have a Masters Degree in History among other
studies. Pagan is a general word. The Roman
Saturnalia was a multi-week feast of 2 weeks
at the Winter Solstice. Christmas became the
Roman State holiday when Christianity became
the official religion of the Emperor. The Church
allows its faithful to incorporate some
of their former traditions such as Yule, etc
and they are different in different places.
The way "we" celebrate Christmas today is commercial
because capitalism and industrialists influenced
society starting in the later 1800s. That goes
for many other holidays and way of life, not just
Christmas.
Also, it's the Epiphany which is more popular around
the world as the day to exchange gifts, as that was
the day the Wise Men gave their gifts to Emmanuel.
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Athiests are the scum of the Earth. Where are their "satan is a myth" billboards at?

Athiests are not anti religion at all, they are anti God and anti Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29150324


Right - not Atheists - but rather Satanists.

If they didn't believe in anything - they wouldn't care so much! That billboard is prime advertising space - cost big bucks.

Who would pay for this - but an adversary?
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We as Christians never harass, intimidate or insult atheists.
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Fucking bullshit. the Church persecuted and executed atheists for years.
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Myth - a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, especially one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.


So what part of this definition is an attack on you or your religion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554016


It says "dump" the myth.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW OFFENSIVE THIS IS!?
 Quoting: Sneetch


As opposed to accept Jesus Christ by saying some magical prayer or face eternal seperation from god in hell then the lake of fire to be eternally tormented.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW OFFENSIVE THAT IS!?
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We as Christians never harass, intimidate or insult atheists.
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Fucking bullshit. the Church persecuted and executed atheists for years.
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What Church????
Susie

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Myth - a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, especially one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.


So what part of this definition is an attack on you or your religion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554016


It says "dump" the myth.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW OFFENSIVE THIS IS!?
 Quoting: Sneetch


As opposed to accept Jesus Christ by saying some magical prayer or face eternal seperation from god in hell then the lake of fire to be eternally tormented.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW OFFENSIVE THAT IS!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28541844


What makes you think *EARTH* without GOD life is Lovely, Peaceful and Joyous?

Susie

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Doesn't matter either way, religion is just a form of mind control. People following the blind beliefs of another, holding onto something they can't prove to exist or not.

It seems so much easier to blame all your sins on someone else and then believe that a god will forgive you and let you into heaven.

Religions brings hate and hypocrites. The bible says not to judge people, yet Christians are the first to judge another for not believing in the Christians beliefs.

To me it's just one person trying to get another to believe that their god is more real then the next.

Pretty funny if you ask me.
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Myth - a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, especially one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.


So what part of this definition is an attack on you or your religion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554016


It says "dump" the myth.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW OFFENSIVE THIS IS!?
 Quoting: Sneetch


As opposed to accept Jesus Christ by saying some magical prayer or face eternal seperation from god in hell then the lake of fire to be eternally tormented.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW OFFENSIVE THAT IS!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28541844


Again, sarcasm.

And technically, people kind of do damn themselves to hell on their own wishes.

Just saying.
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God sacrificed his own son (jesus). This sounds pretty demonic if you ask me. I don't know of any parent who would sacrifice their child.

The subliminal message of this alone doesn't vibe with me very well.
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I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANYONE DISPUTE THIS MAN'S MESSAGE!!!!!!
HE IS SPOT ON THE MONEY!!!!!!

Susie

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Not only that, but almost every aspect of how they celebrate "christmas" was stolen from other religions around the world.

biggest show of hypocrisy I have ever seen!!!
 Quoting: viking thunder


you don't know anything. Nothing about Christmas
was ever stolen from any other local custom or
festival. What you're referring to is merely the
transition of local cultures infusing some of
their long-standing traditions into the celebration,
and nothing more.

The truth is that a growing number of people
especially those young enough not to know better
and whom are thoroughly uneducated and uninformed
are getting too much deceptive, baseless tripe
off the internet. Jesus was real. There is no
doubt about it in 2000 years, and that truth
exists totally apart from your or anyone else's
lack of knowledge.
Good Day.
 Quoting: RDprofessor


You, my friend, know ABSOLUTELY nothing about the history behind this. there were no cultures infusing traditions. The church actively changed their own ceremonies and traditions when they moved into a new area in an attempt to more easily convert the locals. The locals did not color the traditions. The traditions were intentionally changed by outsiders moving to a new area to convert people.

From the tree, to the presents, to the decorations, to the traditions, EVERY SINGLE part of the christmas holiday as it is celebrated today has been stolen from past pagan tradition. Christmas as it is celebrated today is absolutely a PAGAN holiday.
 Quoting: viking thunder


everything you just said is untrue garbage.
I have a Masters Degree in History among other
studies. Pagan is a general word. The Roman
Saturnalia was a multi-week feast of 2 weeks
at the Winter Solstice. Christmas became the
Roman State holiday when Christianity became
the official religion of the Emperor. The Church
allows its faithful to incorporate some
of their former traditions such as Yule, etc
and they are different in different places.
The way "we" celebrate Christmas today is commercial
because capitalism and industrialists influenced
society starting in the later 1800s. That goes
for many other holidays and way of life, not just
Christmas.
Also, it's the Epiphany which is more popular around
the world as the day to exchange gifts, as that was
the day the Wise Men gave their gifts to Emmanuel.
 Quoting: RDprofessor


You think jesus was born on christmas, how sweet.

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