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propaganda... does anyone really believe that crap?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29749138 Something doesn't add up for sure one way or the other. I would feel a whole lot better about forming an opinion and accepting the conclusion that the kid must have wanted to die to start a fight by pulling a fake gun on an Israeli soldier (and even attacking the soldier) if there had been witnesses from both sides.
Were the kid's friends and family aware that he carried a fake gun?
Do all these rioting Palestinians realize the kid pulled a fake gun on a soldier? If so, then why in the hell are they rioting? If he did then he wanted to die!
Aw, hell, I must be relating it to how U.S. cops kill perps, lie about the events and even plant things on them to justify it. Soldiers would never do the same. No way.
Or it could be the kid wanted to suicide & start a war and/or be a hero. We'll never know unless they find some witnesses from the other side. Are there any? Would just feel better about forming an opinion if there was at least one Palestinian witness who confirmed the kid pulled a toy gun on the soldier.
It wouldn't surprise me either way - both sides are insane.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29746975 You ask some legitimate questions, but your ending sentence is more of the PC bullshit--- NO, they are NOT "both insane".
The Palestinians are the squatter-nomad phonies who try to occupt & hijack another people's near 4,000 year history & land. WHile the other side, the Jews, are a unique minority, a spectaculuar mix of Eastern Past and Western Future that should be cherished and protected by the global community -- much like a rare, endangered species bird would, for instance.
That's the truth, and everything else is just Saudi/Qatari-funded Muslim-Marxist propaganda spin.
Your kind of common-place false (moral) equivalence is partly WHY the Palestinians in particular and Arabs in geneneral have been so RADICALIZED within the last generation. The more they get away with, the more emboldened their imams & sheiks have become. Even Sinai bedouin who used to be fairly secular, moderate only some 10 years ago, have become raging Salafists who smuggle for Al-Qaeda, Iran and Hamas, and commit terror acts with gusto.
That doofus was my age. You want to know what drove him:
1) Even though Israel has been keeping that corrupt Holocaust-denying loser, Mahmoud Abbas, afloat and protected from Hamas in the West Bank....even depiste the world community's efforts to give Abbas a "moderate peace-maker" make-over.....Fact remains: the
Culture of Death/Martyrdom/Murder and constant incitement to Genocide against the Jews in Pali media & schools, is alive and well. So the dude was probably trying to start a 3rd Intifada.
2) It was a kidnapping atttempt gone awry. You see, the moronic, cowardly, "enlightened" Progressive West views Palestinians as harmless, cuddly underdogs. When of course that's about 180-degrees from REALITY. Pali terror groups, with help of both Western, Saudi and Iranian, tactical advisers & PR people... have learned to be smarter. They used to vandalize Jewish property; now they vandalize their OWN or Christian using Hebrew graffiti -- in hopes that the world will knee-jerk condemn Israel "settlers" all the same. Several have been caught in the act.
Same with kidnapping. Palis biggest dream is to kidnap an Israeli and then exchange for prisoners. So sending a "random", um, "kid" armed with a fake-gun against a female Border Guard makes perfect sense: if she surrenders to someone pointing a gun at her, then it's a great catch for Pali terrorists. If it goes bust and she kills him, then hey it's just a 17 year old "kid" who was on his way to buy birthday-cake... No trace to Palestinian Authority or Hamas.
Same teenagers were also using Israeli leftists NGO to win access to Israeli town. Under pretenses of looking after some Olive trees, they scouted the weak spots in the perimeter defense. Then 2 teenagers snuck in at night and MURDERED a family of 5 in their sleep with shotgun and machette, including 3 children, including a 3-month old baby in the crib. See: Fogel Family massacre.
Some otherf Pali "kids" were throwing boulders from overpass at Israeli cars on a highway -- hitting an Israeli driver and causing a crash, which killed him and his baby in the back-seat. Yay, Pali kids will be Pali kids!
That's just tip of the iceberg. These people don't want peace. They wouldn't KNOW what to do with peace -- cuz, you know, then all the Western donations would stop and they would have to set about the boring, unglamourous daily work of a actually running a modern state -- with no natural resources of their Saudi or Iraninan brethren to pay for it, by the way.
Killing Jews is more fun! Not to mention, "pleasing to Allah's ears".