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BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 12/12/2012 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a God that is the creator of everything. Ask me a question. UPDATED Thomas Aquinas proved with exhaustive logic that there must be a God and he must be good... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Chucky (OP) User ID: 29262056 United States 12/12/2012 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a God that is the creator of everything. Ask me a question. UPDATED Why is a creator necessary for things to exist, and if so, who created the creator? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3168735 Something cannot come out of nothing because that has to be a unlimited creator who decides the limits of created things. And there cannot be a creator to the creator because then that creator would be the creator. And the creator cannot have a begin or end he has to always have existed. Last Edited by Chucky on 12/12/2012 04:42 PM workfromnohomeinfo.com |
YourFatherInHeaven User ID: 22982908 United States 12/12/2012 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a God that is the creator of everything. Ask me a question. UPDATED Since this book was shared with me, iv'e seen glitches in the matrix, INTENSE out of body experiences and my perception of so-called "reality" has changed in ways I cannot even begin to describe. Fear is becoming foreign, when I "wake up" in the morning it feels like i'm falling into a nightmare. Everything is backwards, my eyes are now open. It is time to take the red pill for those who choose to do so: Quoting: Silvanus [link to www.scribd.com] You already did. I am right here I created Man in my own image, The Son of Man In the beginning I created the Heavens and the Earth. [link to www.photobucket.com] The Lord, I am your God |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3168735 United States 12/12/2012 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a God that is the creator of everything. Ask me a question. UPDATED Why is a creator necessary for things to exist, and if so, who created the creator? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3168735 Because something come out of nothing because that has to be a unlimited creator who decides the limits of created things. And there cannot be a creator to the creator because then that creator would be the creator. And the creator cannot have a begin or end he has to always have existed. Is English your first language? Anyways, there doesn't HAVE to be anything. Just because you don't understand or can't conceive of other possibilities doesn't mean your way of thinking is correct. You're going to have to do a better job of articulating your point, IMO. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23917036 United States 12/12/2012 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a God that is the creator of everything. Ask me a question. UPDATED Why would a caring, loving god doom good, honest people to hell for an eternity? What is appealing about worshiping a god that is so morbid and ready to torture the majority of his creations? |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 12/12/2012 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a God that is the creator of everything. Ask me a question. UPDATED He didn't create sin, Satan did...for a person to choose between god's family or not he must have free will, free will must allow sin to happen... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1516308 Netherlands 12/12/2012 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a God that is the creator of everything. Ask me a question. UPDATED He didn't create sin, Satan did...for a person to choose between god's family or not he must have free will, free will must allow sin to happen... God created everything so he must have created Sin, or else he wouldn't be the almighty creator of everything. Even if you say Satan created Sin God still created Satan knowing he would create Sin. Also not a really good answer as to why. Why not just make humans perfect? Can't you be perfect with free will? If not then God can't have free will. |
Chucky (OP) User ID: 29262056 United States 12/12/2012 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a God that is the creator of everything. Ask me a question. UPDATED Why is a creator necessary for things to exist, and if so, who created the creator? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3168735 Because something come out of nothing because that has to be a unlimited creator who decides the limits of created things. And there cannot be a creator to the creator because then that creator would be the creator. And the creator cannot have a begin or end he has to always have existed. Is English your first language? Anyways, there doesn't HAVE to be anything. Just because you don't understand or can't conceive of other possibilities doesn't mean your way of thinking is correct. You're going to have to do a better job of articulating your point, IMO. OMG I MISSED ONE WORD "CANNOT" IN BETWEEN "SOMETHING" AND "COME". I'll go fix it. And I am currently updating the body so come back and read that when I am done. Last Edited by Chucky on 12/12/2012 04:42 PM workfromnohomeinfo.com |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3168735 United States 12/12/2012 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a God that is the creator of everything. Ask me a question. UPDATED He didn't create sin, Satan did...for a person to choose between god's family or not he must have free will, free will must allow sin to happen... So Satan is also a creator? How do you know which is the more powerful? Because the bible told you so? Man has free will, so how do you know that a man, or group of men, exercising their free will of course, didn't decide to alter the bible's teaching, or make it up all together? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16996426 Australia 12/12/2012 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a God that is the creator of everything. Ask me a question. UPDATED He didn't create sin, Satan did...for a person to choose between god's family or not he must have free will, free will must allow sin to happen... But God created statan and he KNEw BEFORe he created satan that satan WOULD bring sin to be..so GOD..being in ULTIMATE CONTROL of everything..MUST HAVE PLANNED it..cause if he did NOT..he is not all KNOWING..and if he is not all KNOWING..he is NOT GOD ALMIGHTY..just god..aLITTLE bit mighty.. Plus IF God created satan and DIDNT KNOW satan would create sin..then GOD MADE A MISTAKE..didnt he? But who ever heard of a being who knows EVERY POSSIBLE FUTURE..make a MISTAKE? So if he DIDNT MAKE a mistake which is IMPOSSIBLE for an ALL KNOWING BEING to do..the he MUST have PLANNED THE WHOLE THING RIGHT FROM THE START..and this plan..according to MOST CHRISTIANS..included creating a place to torture TRILLIONS of BEINGS he KNEW IN ADVANCE would reject him... SO ITS PLANNED SADISM... But we all know that TORTURE is EVIL..especially torture without end.. So how can GOD who is ALL KNOWIING and ALMIGHTY who PLANNED SIN to BE by creating a being that would BRING it to be..ALSO have planned the ULTIMATE EVIL? besides..he says there will be NO MORE TEARS..NO MORE CRYING..that ALL those things..pain..sorrow..death..agony..will BE NO MORE.. SO HOW can this be TRUE if TRILLIONS OF BEINGS are going to be spending ETERNITY DOING JUST THAT? So this being who is LOVE>.wgo CANT LIE..TOLD A LIE?? GET your FADCTS straight chritians..either GOD makes mistakes..OR he is a liar..and TGUS the most evil SADIST in history.. OR YOU ARE ALL WRONG ABOUT HIM! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16996426 Australia 12/12/2012 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a God that is the creator of everything. Ask me a question. UPDATED He didn't create sin, Satan did...for a person to choose between god's family or not he must have free will, free will must allow sin to happen... But God created statan and he KNEW BEFORE he created satan that satan WOULD bring sin to be..so GOD..being in ULTIMATE CONTROL of everything..MUST HAVE PLANNED it..cause if he did NOT..he is not all KNOWING..and if he is not all KNOWING..he is NOT GOD ALMIGHTY..just god..a LITTLE bit mighty.. Plus IF God created satan and DIDNT KNOW satan would create sin..then GOD MADE A MISTAKE..didnt he? But who ever heard of a being who knows EVERY POSSIBLE FUTURE..make a MISTAKE? So if he DIDNT MAKE a mistake which is IMPOSSIBLE for an ALL KNOWING BEING to do..the he MUST have PLANNED THE WHOLE THING RIGHT FROM THE START..and this plan..according to MOST CHRISTIANS..included creating a place to torture TRILLIONS of BEINGS he KNEW IN ADVANCE would reject him... SO ITS PLANNED SADISM... But we all know that TORTURE is EVIL..especially torture without end.. So how can GOD who is ALL KNOWIING and ALMIGHTY who PLANNED SIN to BE by creating a being that would BRING it to be..ALSO have planned the ULTIMATE EVIL? Besides..he says there will be NO MORE TEARS..NO MORE CRYING..that ALL those things..pain..sorrow..death..agony..will BE NO MORE.. SO HOW can this be TRUE if TRILLIONS OF BEINGS are going to be spending ETERNITY DOING JUST THAT? So this being who is LOVE>.who CANT LIE..TOLD A LIE?? GET your FADCTS straight chritians..either GOD makes mistakes..OR he is a liar..and THUS the most evil SADIST in history.. OR YOU ARE ALL WRONG ABOUT HIM! fxd |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16996426 Australia 12/12/2012 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a God that is the creator of everything. Ask me a question. UPDATED He didn't create sin, Satan did...for a person to choose between god's family or not he must have free will, free will must allow sin to happen... But God created statan and he KNEW BEFORE he created satan that satan WOULD bring sin to be..so GOD..being in ULTIMATE CONTROL of everything..MUST HAVE PLANNED it..cause if he did NOT..he is not all KNOWING..and if he is not all KNOWING..he is NOT GOD ALMIGHTY..just god..a LITTLE bit mighty.. Plus IF God created satan and DIDNT KNOW satan would create sin..then GOD MADE A MISTAKE..didnt he? But who ever heard of a being who knows EVERY POSSIBLE FUTURE..make a MISTAKE? So if he DIDNT MAKE a mistake which is IMPOSSIBLE for an ALL KNOWING BEING to do..the he MUST have PLANNED THE WHOLE THING RIGHT FROM THE START..and this plan..according to MOST CHRISTIANS..included creating a place to torture TRILLIONS of BEINGS he KNEW IN ADVANCE would reject him... SO ITS PLANNED SADISM... But we all know that TORTURE is EVIL..especially torture without end.. So how can GOD who is ALL KNOWIING and ALMIGHTY who PLANNED SIN to BE by creating a being that would BRING it to be..ALSO have planned the ULTIMATE EVIL? Besides..he says there will be NO MORE TEARS..NO MORE CRYING..that ALL those things..pain..sorrow..death..agony..will BE NO MORE.. SO HOW can this be TRUE if TRILLIONS OF BEINGS are going to be spending ETERNITY DOING JUST THAT? So this being who is LOVE>.who CANT LIE..TOLD A LIE?? GET your FACTS straight chritians..either GOD makes mistakes..OR he is a liar..and THUS the most evil SADIST in history.. OR YOU ARE ALL WRONG ABOUT HIM! fxd..again |
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Chucky (OP) User ID: 29262056 United States 12/12/2012 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a God that is the creator of everything. Ask me a question. UPDATED He didn't create sin, Satan did...for a person to choose between god's family or not he must have free will, free will must allow sin to happen... God created everything so he must have created Sin, or else he wouldn't be the almighty creator of everything. Even if you say Satan created Sin God still created Satan knowing he would create Sin. Also not a really good answer as to why. Why not just make humans perfect? Can't you be perfect with free will? If not then God can't have free will. I will have a separate thread about matters like this related to sin and punishment which belongs to religion. This thread here to prove to atheists that there is a creator that's it. workfromnohomeinfo.com |
Chucky (OP) User ID: 29262056 United States 12/12/2012 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a God that is the creator of everything. Ask me a question. UPDATED Come on OP Quoting: Phill You can't make a thread saying you will answer our questions and then fail to do so. I will have a separate thread about matters like this related to sin and punishment which belongs to religion. This thread here to prove to atheists that there is a creator that's it. workfromnohomeinfo.com |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1516308 Netherlands 12/12/2012 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Dear Atheists: I will prove to you that there is a God that is the creator of everything. Ask me a question. UPDATED "The first thing that a person must know is that there exists a being, who is the master of everything that exists and who brought all things into being at the time he desired. He sustains them as long as he so desires, and rules over them with complete authority." How do you know that? |