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BREAKING: North Korean Satellite Tumbling Out of Control

 
GooliaJulia

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joke thread, one star, nothing wrong
with the satellite.
 Quoting: RDprofessor

Why do you say that Professor?
 Quoting: Corn Dog

flip back. altitude is correct. i gave link.
 Quoting: RDprofessor


They seem to name all their satellites the same thing= Kwangmyongsong-3 and they have had a few failures under this name. Maybe the name is jinxed and they should think up a new one.

*8tw- I see that the one in March was to have an altitude of 500
 Quoting: Corn Dog


Im watching that site and the altitude is falling

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drudge is now reporting that satellite as tumbling out of control
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real-time tracker

[link to n2yo.com]
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OK, right:

Perigee: 505.5 km
Apogee: 588.5 km


I think as long as she stays within those numbers, she is "normal."
 Quoting: 2012Portal


I'm not well versed in orbits and how they function as far as satellites remaining in orbit...does their altitude fluctuate as they rotate in their orbits around earth?
 Quoting: godzilla85


Yes, part of getting into orbit you end up with one end higher than the other. Then once at the highest point (apogee), you burn along the prograde (the direction your headed) and that in turn brings up the altitude of your lowest point (perigee).

You use these maneuvers to "circularize" to the height you want with it even on both sides.

We don't know what the flight profile of this satellite was, maybe this was the intended orbit, or maybe the satellite malfunctioned before it had a chance to circularize its orbit better.
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


Thanks @CharlieMurphy

Good input, appreciate it!

For a "tumbling out of control" satellite, it sure does appear to be A-Okay.
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Kudos to them for launching from such a high latitude though, there is a reason we launch from South Florida. The closer your are to the equator the easier it is.
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The December 2012 plot thickens...
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and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."

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now passing to the east of the northern most islands of Japan at an altitude of 319 miles which continues to decrease
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how very interesting. just saw nasa said there is a new meteor shower that is going to come with the geminids, which is suppose to peak before dawn tomorrow. sure is a lot of busy up in the sky right now. also that mysterious X-rocket thing also was just launched agaoin.
i suspect we are going to have INCOMING..
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The December 2012 plot thickens...
 Quoting: theDtrain
that's for sure...
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how very interesting. just saw nasa said there is a new meteor shower that is going to come with the geminids, which is suppose to peak before dawn tomorrow. sure is a lot of busy up in the sky right now. also that mysterious X-rocket thing also was just launched agaoin.
i suspect we are going to have INCOMING..
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North Korean peter principle in action.

Wonder how many scientists will die as a result of this?
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Don't those knuckleheads understand the fact that if you kill your scientists after every failed attempt at launching a rocket you will NEVER obtain a working rocket that can actually take something into orbit !? cruise

They don't call it rocket science for nothing, it's hard and you must learn from previous mistakes, but if they kill them after each attempt...
 Quoting: subzero86


clappa

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Under 505.5!
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it's under 504 km above the earth, this thing is coming back in
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Under 505.5!
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


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12/12/2012 06:15 PM

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Fucking bloody hell!
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OK, right:

Perigee: 505.5 km
Apogee: 588.5 km


I think as long as she stays within those numbers, she is "normal."
 Quoting: 2012Portal


So, when it hits 504 we can panic??
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess


Panic time - 504 and falling!!!

@CharlieMurphy - what's going on?

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How low can it go and still be in orbit ?
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12/12/2012 06:16 PM
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real-time tracker

[link to n2yo.com]
 Quoting: Waterbug


502
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Soooooo....if this thing falls out of the sky...it's going to land right on NYC ish?????
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OK, right:

Perigee: 505.5 km
Apogee: 588.5 km


I think as long as she stays within those numbers, she is "normal."
 Quoting: 2012Portal


I'm not well versed in orbits and how they function as far as satellites remaining in orbit...does their altitude fluctuate as they rotate in their orbits around earth?
 Quoting: godzilla85


Yes, part of getting into orbit you end up with one end higher than the other. Then once at the highest point (apogee), you burn along the prograde (the direction your headed) and that in turn brings up the altitude of your lowest point (perigee).

You use these maneuvers to "circularize" to the height you want with it even on both sides.

We don't know what the flight profile of this satellite was, maybe this was the intended orbit, or maybe the satellite malfunctioned before it had a chance to circularize its orbit better.
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


Thanks @CharlieMurphy

Good input, appreciate it!

For a "tumbling out of control" satellite, it sure does appear to be A-Okay.
 Quoting: 2012Portal


No Problem.

If it is "tumbling out of control", it probably means that it is spinning around in space not able to orient itself in a proper direction. With no air in space you can spin and flip and roll around all you want and it won't effect the direction your heading.

What it will effect is being able to orient communication dish's, camera's, sensors, and most importantly solar panels. Unless this thing is an EMP satellite it is space junk if they can't get their rotation controls working.

I doubt it is an EMP though, with their shitty track record of launching things I would not put a valuable nuke as the payload.
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Re: BREAKING: North Korean Satellite Tumbling Out of Control
ALTITUDE [km]: 501.4
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[link to n2yo.com]
 Quoting: Waterbug


502
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29296706


it is slowing down a bit though
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12/12/2012 06:17 PM
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Let the lottery begin. We're all in this. It can land ANYWHERE
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[link to n2yo.com]
 Quoting: Waterbug


502
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29296706


it is slowing down a bit though
 Quoting: PolarBear418


In terms of increments downward
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How is it moving? West to east? Coming over US now, right?
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Fall baby!
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...


I'm not well versed in orbits and how they function as far as satellites remaining in orbit...does their altitude fluctuate as they rotate in their orbits around earth?
 Quoting: godzilla85


Yes, part of getting into orbit you end up with one end higher than the other. Then once at the highest point (apogee), you burn along the prograde (the direction your headed) and that in turn brings up the altitude of your lowest point (perigee).

You use these maneuvers to "circularize" to the height you want with it even on both sides.

We don't know what the flight profile of this satellite was, maybe this was the intended orbit, or maybe the satellite malfunctioned before it had a chance to circularize its orbit better.
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


Thanks @CharlieMurphy

Good input, appreciate it!

For a "tumbling out of control" satellite, it sure does appear to be A-Okay.
 Quoting: 2012Portal


No Problem.

If it is "tumbling out of control", it probably means that it is spinning around in space not able to orient itself in a proper direction. With no air in space you can spin and flip and roll around all you want and it won't effect the direction your heading.

What it will effect is being able to orient communication dish's, camera's, sensors, and most importantly solar panels. Unless this thing is an EMP satellite it is space junk if they can't get their rotation controls working.

I doubt it is an EMP though, with their shitty track record of launching things I would not put a valuable nuke as the payload.
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy


lol you make a good point, the fact they got it that high up though does say a lot, they are learning fast
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ALTITUDE [km]: 501.4
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20053617


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Let the lottery begin. We're all in this. It can land ANYWHERE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29701970


looks like its gonna miss Australia, so that's out
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lets guess where its going to crash within the next 3-4 hours
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