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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1747431 12/17/2012 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 jesus never said we needed to give penance or fast or sacrifice our bodies to be with god.. so... i agree.. suffering is not required to be in existence. But it is most definitely forced upon us, as many others would agree.. some might disagree, but whatever, i aint getting fooled lol Funny, we are discussing this on a thread of mine I posted today. Thread: Men, it has been well said, Think in Herds; it will be seen that they go Mad in Herds (Page 3) ... Quoting: Septenary Man Yes, that was the teaching of Gautama Buddha as well. Suffering takes place within the inner self and can be overcome by the inner state of Nirvana. i agree that by reaching a state of peace one can be separate from suffering that is in existence within their own mind....however, suffering is most definitely constructed around us from a very young age. Our ego is defined without giving us a chance to have personal progression, thus, why we must "defeat" our ego. but in reality, this process should not occur however it has been forced upon us. Forced upon us by who? That is the question. God? Why? Or is it other beings with free will, possible builders.. who knows.. but isn't the light beyond all, so wouldn't reaching peace be obtainable even in the darkest times... Thread: The Ego and Societal Transparency Do not try to put your ego away. Don't try to put it down. It is a natural process. In natural processes, the harder you try to push something away, the harder it is to push away. You have to recognize it and let the emotions that it brings forth go through you without dwelling on it. This is all simplicity. Wisdom is recognizing the thought energy (because you have experienced it before) and not acting upon it. It is like in meditation when a thought comes to you but you do not dwell on it. It passes through you and upon coming out of meditation you do not even remember what those thoughts were. This is part of the process of awakening. It is awareness of our eternal selves no matter the form. Spiritual growth is the ability to transcend dualism. It is not the ability to push it away. Quoting: Septenary Man The time fast approaches to redefine your ego-self. This will be a difficult shift for the forces of everyday living in materialism will restrict the casting off of unnecessary Service-to-Self ego patterns that subsume so many. This pattern has rooted itself into most aspects of modern human relations as is being increased greatly due to the advent of the ‘I Want/Need That’ generation governing global economies. Realization of this redefining of the ego is a central theme in gaining insight into ways of achieving mastery of certain divine practices and, perhaps more importantly, dissolving fear based paradigms. thx for your posts.. always relevant :) and helpful! and genuine.. |
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| Septenary Man SikScent ~ Swinging on Spirals ~ Saptaparna User ID: 865798 12/17/2012 02:59 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ![]() ![]() [link to swingingonspirals.blogspot.com] [link to blackbagconspiracy.wordpress.com] "Knowledge is wisdom without experience." ~ Chad Adams "Complexity nests itself within patterns. Discover the patterns, and complexity is simplified." - Chad Adams "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in, broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW, What a ride!" "I do not die, but awaken from the dream that I lived." |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20093181 12/17/2012 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i think you think that we think we are alone but i think you think i am just fooling myself because in reality we are with all of our friends and family... ??? or am i just crazy? youre hopelessly crazy, in LOVE!! time to go, got major parent issues to workout. |
| Septenary Man SikScent ~ Swinging on Spirals ~ Saptaparna User ID: 865798 12/17/2012 03:03 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 i think you think that we think we are alone but i think you think i am just fooling myself because in reality we are with all of our friends and family... ??? or am i just crazy? youre hopelessly crazy, in LOVE!! time to go, got major parent issues to workout. Good luck! I've got 2 daughters, 8 and 9 and that spells: T-R-O-U-B-L-E ![]() [link to swingingonspirals.blogspot.com] [link to blackbagconspiracy.wordpress.com] "Knowledge is wisdom without experience." ~ Chad Adams "Complexity nests itself within patterns. Discover the patterns, and complexity is simplified." - Chad Adams "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in, broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW, What a ride!" "I do not die, but awaken from the dream that I lived." |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1747431 12/17/2012 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 i think you think that we think we are alone but i think you think i am just fooling myself because in reality we are with all of our friends and family... ??? or am i just crazy? youre hopelessly crazy, in LOVE!! time to go, got major parent issues to workout. good luck :) Love you!! keep on keeping on. |
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| Septenary Man SikScent ~ Swinging on Spirals ~ Saptaparna User ID: 865798 12/17/2012 03:05 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ![]() ![]() [link to swingingonspirals.blogspot.com] [link to blackbagconspiracy.wordpress.com] "Knowledge is wisdom without experience." ~ Chad Adams "Complexity nests itself within patterns. Discover the patterns, and complexity is simplified." - Chad Adams "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in, broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW, What a ride!" "I do not die, but awaken from the dream that I lived." |
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| Septenary Man SikScent ~ Swinging on Spirals ~ Saptaparna User ID: 865798 12/17/2012 03:09 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ![]() ![]() [link to swingingonspirals.blogspot.com] [link to blackbagconspiracy.wordpress.com] "Knowledge is wisdom without experience." ~ Chad Adams "Complexity nests itself within patterns. Discover the patterns, and complexity is simplified." - Chad Adams "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in, broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW, What a ride!" "I do not die, but awaken from the dream that I lived." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30151304 12/17/2012 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the nobody realizes that there is more to his external existence than his mind alone. He realizes he lives as a unit. But this is separate from his mind, separate from his shackles.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 the wos establishes herself as this separate entity, but she is really to be nameless as well.... for are we not all wounded ourselves? why would anyone get the title that they are more "wounded" than others.... doesn't everyone deserve their nobody? wasn't Jesus more 'wounded' than other people? |
| 1908247 User ID: 30140114 12/17/2012 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, is the nobody mentioned on the Bible? ![]() Last Edited by 1908247 on 12/17/2012 03:12 PM - ? Nus. -No cause is a lost cause if there is a fool to fight for it. -'The day which we fear as our last is but the birthday of eternity.' -You Hold Witness I Witness |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30151304 12/17/2012 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the nobody realizes that there is more to his external existence than his mind alone. He realizes he lives as a unit. But this is separate from his mind, separate from his shackles.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 the wos establishes herself as this separate entity, but she is really to be nameless as well.... for are we not all wounded ourselves? why would anyone get the title that they are more "wounded" than others.... doesn't everyone deserve their nobody? People need to feel as if their suffering means something. This makes their own suffering more powerful than others suffering in their minds. Their own suffering is more powerful because of its meaning to the that individual. Most cannot accept that suffering may not have any positive value. They are externalizing it, in a way. i have learned that suffering does mean something. didn't the suffering of Jesus bring forth a new era, a new religion, a new philosophy? the suffering of Jesus means a lot to other people. Rome fell because of the misuse of power by the Romans the Jews lost their homeland because of the suffering of Jesus (writers opinion) suffering means something, and it can mean a lot. but the way it is repaid is many times over misunderstood. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1747431 12/17/2012 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the nobody realizes that there is more to his external existence than his mind alone. He realizes he lives as a unit. But this is separate from his mind, separate from his shackles.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 the wos establishes herself as this separate entity, but she is really to be nameless as well.... for are we not all wounded ourselves? why would anyone get the title that they are more "wounded" than others.... doesn't everyone deserve their nobody? wasn't Jesus more 'wounded' than other people? no many were wounded just like jesus. |
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| bobobibi User ID: 21469231 12/17/2012 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the nobody realizes that there is more to his external existence than his mind alone. He realizes he lives as a unit. But this is separate from his mind, separate from his shackles.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 the wos establishes herself as this separate entity, but she is really to be nameless as well.... for are we not all wounded ourselves? why would anyone get the title that they are more "wounded" than others.... doesn't everyone deserve their nobody? wasn't Jesus more 'wounded' than other people? im sure knowing things that people around you couldn't possibly comprehend would leave a few scars within.. wonder if he knew that 2000 years later people would still be clueless but do it in his name bobobibi |
| bobobibi User ID: 21469231 12/17/2012 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the nobody realizes that there is more to his external existence than his mind alone. He realizes he lives as a unit. But this is separate from his mind, separate from his shackles.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 the wos establishes herself as this separate entity, but she is really to be nameless as well.... for are we not all wounded ourselves? why would anyone get the title that they are more "wounded" than others.... doesn't everyone deserve their nobody? wasn't Jesus more 'wounded' than other people? im sure knowing things that people around you couldn't possibly comprehend would leave a few scars within.. wonder if he knew that 2000 years later people would still be clueless but do it in his name bobobibi |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1747431 12/17/2012 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the nobody realizes that there is more to his external existence than his mind alone. He realizes he lives as a unit. But this is separate from his mind, separate from his shackles.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 the wos establishes herself as this separate entity, but she is really to be nameless as well.... for are we not all wounded ourselves? why would anyone get the title that they are more "wounded" than others.... doesn't everyone deserve their nobody? People need to feel as if their suffering means something. This makes their own suffering more powerful than others suffering in their minds. Their own suffering is more powerful because of its meaning to the that individual. Most cannot accept that suffering may not have any positive value. They are externalizing it, in a way. i have learned that suffering does mean something. didn't the suffering of Jesus bring forth a new era, a new religion, a new philosophy? the suffering of Jesus means a lot to other people. Rome fell because of the misuse of power by the Romans the Jews lost their homeland because of the suffering of Jesus (writers opinion) suffering means something, and it can mean a lot. but the way it is repaid is many times over misunderstood. great input.. i agree that the suffering that jesus, his followers, and ALL who have come proclaiming the good news about the father in heaven, has established a new kingdom. So yes, i agree. It does mean a lot to a lot of people. but i still think it is external and one can obtain peace within and detach from their suffering in their mind and be one with the source.. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1747431 12/17/2012 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the nobody realizes that there is more to his external existence than his mind alone. He realizes he lives as a unit. But this is separate from his mind, separate from his shackles.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 the wos establishes herself as this separate entity, but she is really to be nameless as well.... for are we not all wounded ourselves? why would anyone get the title that they are more "wounded" than others.... doesn't everyone deserve their nobody? wasn't Jesus more 'wounded' than other people? im sure knowing things that people around you couldn't possibly comprehend would leave a few scars within.. wonder if he knew that 2000 years later people would still be clueless but do it in his name double post for emphasis!! fist pump!!! |
| 1908247 User ID: 30140114 12/17/2012 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: 1908247 what else has my brother told you about me? I guess that was all. ![]() sorry for the long quotes, thought of removing the images but.. nah.. (:> - ? Nus. -No cause is a lost cause if there is a fool to fight for it. -'The day which we fear as our last is but the birthday of eternity.' -You Hold Witness I Witness |
| Septenary Man SikScent ~ Swinging on Spirals ~ Saptaparna User ID: 865798 12/17/2012 03:29 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the nobody realizes that there is more to his external existence than his mind alone. He realizes he lives as a unit. But this is separate from his mind, separate from his shackles.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 the wos establishes herself as this separate entity, but she is really to be nameless as well.... for are we not all wounded ourselves? why would anyone get the title that they are more "wounded" than others.... doesn't everyone deserve their nobody? People need to feel as if their suffering means something. This makes their own suffering more powerful than others suffering in their minds. Their own suffering is more powerful because of its meaning to the that individual. Most cannot accept that suffering may not have any positive value. They are externalizing it, in a way. i have learned that suffering does mean something. didn't the suffering of Jesus bring forth a new era, a new religion, a new philosophy? the suffering of Jesus means a lot to other people. Rome fell because of the misuse of power by the Romans the Jews lost their homeland because of the suffering of Jesus (writers opinion) suffering means something, and it can mean a lot. but the way it is repaid is many times over misunderstood. Yes, I agree. I guess I didn't put enough into the post. I agree with you, but there is some suffering that doesn't mean anything, yet the person suffering attaches meaning to it. ![]() [link to swingingonspirals.blogspot.com] [link to blackbagconspiracy.wordpress.com] "Knowledge is wisdom without experience." ~ Chad Adams "Complexity nests itself within patterns. Discover the patterns, and complexity is simplified." - Chad Adams "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in, broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, WOW, What a ride!" "I do not die, but awaken from the dream that I lived." |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1747431 12/17/2012 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 wow, that was.. powerful :) much love to you :) koneecheewa (im not racist i promise) No worries, your brother told me you're ok. Page 13 looks nice! :wolfsd: what else has my brother told you about me? I guess that was all. :fingement: sorry for the long quotes, thought of removing the images but.. nah.. (:> no no, keep going, someone is getting the message apparently... i myself do not quite get all of this but alas, i am just the messenger.. |