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CharlieMurphy User ID: 21085501 United States 12/12/2012 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The orbit itself is stable, but without the ability to control its atitude and thus make adjustments to its orbit, it won't be able to sustain that orbit for more than a few years. The orbit will eventually degrade but for now it's up there and staying there. Fuck Yea! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29635681 United States 12/12/2012 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The East to West orbit makes no sense? AND IT IS ABOUT TO GO WEST OF WA.D.C. if this simulator can be believed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29635681 Someone said it was a Pole to Pole orbit ? Why not, I guess, but I thought that all satellites went with the spin or were stationary ? Yes it is in a polar orbit. This is the kind of orbit track recon/spy satellite use. As the sat travels North and South the Earth rotates underneath slowly, allowing the sat to cover every part of the planet. A vehicle in space orbits around the mass of Earth. It doesn't matter what direction or speed, it will always be orbiting in a circle around the center mass. A geostationary satellite orbits at an altitude where the speed required to maintain that orbit is keeping it looking at the same part of Earth at all times. Essentially orbiting at the same speed as the Earth is rotating. Thanks! that makes sense, I had never thought about it before. |
Really?really? User ID: 28077950 Canada 12/12/2012 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The East to West orbit makes no sense? AND IT IS ABOUT TO GO WEST OF WA.D.C. if this simulator can be believed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29635681 Someone said it was a Pole to Pole orbit ? Why not, I guess, but I thought that all satellites went with the spin or were stationary ? Yes it is in a polar orbit. This is the kind of orbit track recon/spy satellite use. As the sat travels North and South the Earth rotates underneath slowly, allowing the sat to cover every part of the planet. A vehicle in space orbits around the mass of Earth. It doesn't matter what direction or speed, it will always be orbiting in a circle around the center mass. A geostationary satellite orbits at an altitude where the speed required to maintain that orbit is keeping it looking at the same part of Earth at all times. Essentially orbiting at the same speed as the Earth is rotating. Thanks! that makes sense, I had never thought about it before. Arthur C Clark proposed the idea. Nice work AC (not to be confused with glp ac Really?really? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29635681 United States 12/12/2012 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What they mean by the satellite being out of control is that it is spinning, rotating, and rolling on its axis in space with no control. Quoting: CharlieMurphy The orbit itself is stable, but without the ability to control its atitude and thus make adjustments to its orbit, it won't be able to sustain that orbit for more than a few years. The orbit will eventually degrade but for now it's up there and staying there. However,Mr Murphy, I was reading recently about Geo stationary satellite 'parked' in orbit @ 16,000 or so, miles out. If we now have 2000 plus satellites in orbit and various space junk, it is inevitable that having conflicting orbits, sooner or later, one will meet another? Imagine flying through space on your Space Bike at 17,000 mph or better and you hit a Frozen Pea or a Turd from a Space Pod toilet. It would shred you head and your helmet. This is what will happen with the Geo-Synchronous orbit craft. A single high energy collision will result in a Cloud of high energy shrapnel/ buck shot ? If these Satellites are sharing an orbit, Close or distant, then one devastating impact will eventually expand exponentially, think about it. A grain of sand becomes a meteorite in the Earths Atmosphere, Although the spacing between orbit vehicles is vast, the cloud of flying buckshot will be large, lethal and unpredictable as it expands over time. One single event could disturb mankind's exploration of space for decades and ruin the whole satellite biz. One Satellite gets fragmented and then another, the debris field expands, 3 Satellites are Shrapnel and in a month 300 are vapor bullets. Ex-ponential un expected un controllable damage expanding endlessly ? The Humans have built a super lethal garbage dump in space. |
Dr. Acula Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 270625 United States 12/12/2012 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | earlier i made a .gif of almost one pass around the earth took it just shy of an hour [link to postimage.org] _______________________ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29635681 United States 12/12/2012 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A polar orbit is very advantageous in military applications. On a traditional equatorial orbit, you can generally only strike in regions along the circular path of your orbit. It takes a lot of energy to alter the angle (ascending and descending nodes) of an orbit, energy that probably is not on board the satellite. In a polar orbit, given that the orbit is out of phase with the rotation of the earth, you can, in theory, strike anywhere you want. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17049908 It is fascinating stuff, that particular advantage never occurred to me until I read this thread ! I was laying in a campground one night,10 years ago down south of Las Vegas, watching for satellites and I saw one on a regular orbit,a twinkle in the sky passing over, and then another twinkle in the sky came up behind it,caught up to it and met it, there was a flash and the second twinkle departed from the first twinkle in the same direction that it had come from, this was orbital stuff and I have seen it with my own eyes, there is a lot more going on in the sky than we are being told about. The desert south of Vegas is awesome for having a beer and laying out and sky watching, stuff happens over Vegas! That is why they have the light pollution turned up to 11. |
Proskiracer User ID: 23956214 United States 12/12/2012 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A polar orbit is very advantageous in military applications. On a traditional equatorial orbit, you can generally only strike in regions along the circular path of your orbit. It takes a lot of energy to alter the angle (ascending and descending nodes) of an orbit, energy that probably is not on board the satellite. In a polar orbit, given that the orbit is out of phase with the rotation of the earth, you can, in theory, strike anywhere you want. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17049908 It is fascinating stuff, that particular advantage never occurred to me until I read this thread ! I was laying in a campground one night,10 years ago down south of Las Vegas, watching for satellites and I saw one on a regular orbit,a twinkle in the sky passing over, and then another twinkle in the sky came up behind it,caught up to it and met it, there was a flash and the second twinkle departed from the first twinkle in the same direction that it had come from, this was orbital stuff and I have seen it with my own eyes, there is a lot more going on in the sky than we are being told about. The desert south of Vegas is awesome for having a beer and laying out and sky watching, stuff happens over Vegas! That is why they have the light pollution turned up to 11. I've done about 200 passes through Searchlight, some of the best sky! have you ever seen the sky from Tonopah? THINK ABOUT THIS! The universe created life to be observed, without an observer, it never existed. So it is a mathematical proof that the universe created life. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20566260 United States 12/13/2012 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its not coming down, for now anyway... The satellite is now circling the Earth, and is likely to stay up for a year or two, although it appears the North Koreans are having trouble controlling it. [link to www.cbsnews.com] |
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