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WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH THE UNIONS?

 
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Corporations would happily pay their workers nothing if they could get away with it. Unions are necessary to counter corporate greed and other abuses like child labor. This country lived off of slave labor for many years. The modern form of slave labor is prison labor and shipping jobs overseas to the lowest bidder.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


Actually, Corporations wanted to pay, but when you had HOLLYWOOD pop up with Multi Million dollar salaries of its movie stars, what prevents other people that actually work more than a movie star from earning a million or more? no one blinks a eye when Tom Cruise makes 50 million plus a movie.

And you had free trade open up. opportunities to hire Chinese and Indian people

Then on American soil the huge influx of Hispanics from Mexico and their babies and children who took the wages, down, down, down, down in all the construction and farming industries

There you go. I doubt that Corporations were ever that evil as you are suggesting, its just a number of factors.
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Ive worked on some film sets that had Union workers and they make 4-500.00 a day and are so overstaffed they had the free time to hire in a masseuse so they can take turns getting massages. Think about the people out there who cant afford to take their kids to the movies because ticket are too expensive.
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The juices seem to be more potent these days, especially when you dice them. Can't stop crying.
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yeah capitalist pig fuckers
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Capitalism creates wealth for anyone willing to 'reach for it.'
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These are Dumb Union fucks they dont understand the concept of reaching for a goal.
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Go sit down & shut up.
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You first cum guzzler!
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The juices seem to be more potent these days, especially when you dice them. Can't stop crying.
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LOL!
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As a worker, it is in my interest that unions prosper and survive.

what's your angle....why do you care?
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So you are proud to be part of a union that was started by communist, taken over by mafia and ultimately it tbecame a Democrat money laundring operation. You are no better than bankers!
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No body was talking to you...u are an ill informed liar and a poor writer ....not my union and as far as banker are concerned unions are small change where the criminals who run shit are concerned

who said I am proud? I work 12 hours a day busting my ass! how the fuck do you think you think I am on the same level as bankers?

Bankers like pimps and corporations make money off peoples backs...your a fucking a hole..and a dumb one at that
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Could you point out where I am ill informed about unions being started by communist, then being taken over by mafia and ultimately becoming a Democrat money laundering operation.
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I thought labor unions originated in the guilds of the middle ages.

I also thought redbaiting would have ended with the breakup of the USSR. You still worried about commies? Is there still a mafia? Do you really believe labor will organize again and be so naive as to let the "mafia" walk in and take over?

What money were Democrats laundering through unions? Did you just make that up? Throw out a name or link or something.
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Could you point out where I am ill informed about unions being started by communist, then being taken over by mafia and ultimately becoming a Democrat money laundering operation.
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Burden of proof is on you....lmao
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Comment = I have no clue about the origins of unions, just that I pay dues to them.
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you are a zionist shill.. what are U doing in this thread

take your clown ass out before I refute you so profoundly that you are forced to flounce..

fuck with this at you own risk..
 Quoting: Angel Lust

Fuckstick, you know nothing of me. But I do know about union thugs and how they have destroyed American jobs by the millions. Fact. Your threats do not worry me in the least.
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Capitalism creates wealth for anyone willing to 'reach for it.'
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These are Dumb Union fucks they dont understand the concept of reaching for a goal.
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Go sit down & shut up.
 Quoting: Tanarus


You first cum guzzler!
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Yea yea. Hide behind AC you putz.
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I thought labor unions originated in the guilds of the middle ages.

I also thought redbaiting would have ended with the breakup of the USSR. You still worried about commies? Is there still a mafia? Do you really believe labor will organize again and be so naive as to let the "mafia" walk in and take over?

What money were Democrats laundering through unions? Did you just make that up? Throw out a name or link or something.
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Wha? But then someone named after a medieval trade could be found as leader of like, I dunno. The UK.

Margaret Roofer...
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So you are proud to be part of a union that was started by communist, taken over by mafia and ultimately it tbecame a Democrat money laundring operation. You are no better than bankers!
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No body was talking to you...u are an ill informed liar and a poor writer ....not my union and as far as banker are concerned unions are small change where the criminals who run shit are concerned

who said I am proud? I work 12 hours a day busting my ass! how the fuck do you think you think I am on the same level as bankers?

Bankers like pimps and corporations make money off peoples backs...your a fucking a hole..and a dumb one at that
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Could you point out where I am ill informed about unions being started by communist, then being taken over by mafia and ultimately becoming a Democrat money laundering operation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28749409


I thought labor unions originated in the guilds of the middle ages.

I also thought redbaiting would have ended with the breakup of the USSR. You still worried about commies? Is there still a mafia? Do you really believe labor will organize again and be so naive as to let the "mafia" walk in and take over?

What money were Democrats laundering through unions? Did you just make that up? Throw out a name or link or something.
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I was talking about American unions, and yes communism is still a threat when you lose your freedom on a daily basis.
If you dont believe money laundering is going on with unions ans the Democrats then you are blind. Richard Trumka has pratically moved into the White House.

[link to www.theblaze.com]
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Those your daughter's roller skates?

Or your wife's.
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These are Dumb Union fucks they dont understand the concept of reaching for a goal.
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Go sit down & shut up.
 Quoting: Tanarus


You first cum guzzler!
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Yea yea. Hide behind AC you putz.
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And your name is really Tanarus?
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So you are proud to be part of a union that was started by communist, taken over by mafia and ultimately it tbecame a Democrat money laundring operation. You are no better than bankers!
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No body was talking to you...u are an ill informed liar and a poor writer ....not my union and as far as banker are concerned unions are small change where the criminals who run shit are concerned

who said I am proud? I work 12 hours a day busting my ass! how the fuck do you think you think I am on the same level as bankers?

Bankers like pimps and corporations make money off peoples backs...your a fucking a hole..and a dumb one at that
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Could you point out where I am ill informed about unions being started by communist, then being taken over by mafia and ultimately becoming a Democrat money laundering operation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28749409


I thought labor unions originated in the guilds of the middle ages.

I also thought redbaiting would have ended with the breakup of the USSR. You still worried about commies? Is there still a mafia? Do you really believe labor will organize again and be so naive as to let the "mafia" walk in and take over?

What money were Democrats laundering through unions? Did you just make that up? Throw out a name or link or something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29760374


1) No...they began at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. Didn't pay attention in history class did you?

2) yes...Democraps are laundering money via unions and the elected officials who keep that circle jerk of taxpayer money going.
AGAIN... this is OLD news and history....were you stoned all thru history class?...or even when the Wisconsin battle was going on last year?....and the year before???

It's too bad that you didn't even watch the mini-series on the History Channel about "THE MEN WHO BUILT AMERICA" and you would have had ANOTHER opportunity to learn how unions came about.

Ever hear of the Pinkertons either? Probably not.


Public education failsmile

(also brought to you by the unions) grnrolleyes


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No body was talking to you...u are an ill informed liar and a poor writer ....not my union and as far as banker are concerned unions are small change where the criminals who run shit are concerned

who said I am proud? I work 12 hours a day busting my ass! how the fuck do you think you think I am on the same level as bankers?

Bankers like pimps and corporations make money off peoples backs...your a fucking a hole..and a dumb one at that
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Could you point out where I am ill informed about unions being started by communist, then being taken over by mafia and ultimately becoming a Democrat money laundering operation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28749409


I thought labor unions originated in the guilds of the middle ages.

I also thought redbaiting would have ended with the breakup of the USSR. You still worried about commies? Is there still a mafia? Do you really believe labor will organize again and be so naive as to let the "mafia" walk in and take over?

What money were Democrats laundering through unions? Did you just make that up? Throw out a name or link or something.
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1) No...they began at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. Didn't pay attention in history class did you?

2) yes...Democraps are laundering money via unions and the elected officials who keep that circle jerk of taxpayer money going.
AGAIN... this is OLD news and history....were you stoned all thru history class?...or even when the Wisconsin battle was going on last year?....and the year before???

It's too bad that you didn't even watch the mini-series on the History Channel about "THE MEN WHO BUILT AMERICA" and you would have had ANOTHER opportunity to learn how unions came about.

Ever hear of the Pinkertons either? Probably not.


Public education failsmile

(also brought to you by the unions) grnrolleyes


gluesniff
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THE MEN WHO BUILT AMERICA, was a great series. I knew most of it, but what a great educational film for those union taught students that maybe watched it.
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Can people in Detroit find the USA on a map.
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Can people in Detroit find the USA on a map.
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"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Could you point out where I am ill informed about unions being started by communist, then being taken over by mafia and ultimately becoming a Democrat money laundering operation.
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I thought labor unions originated in the guilds of the middle ages.

I also thought redbaiting would have ended with the breakup of the USSR. You still worried about commies? Is there still a mafia? Do you really believe labor will organize again and be so naive as to let the "mafia" walk in and take over?

What money were Democrats laundering through unions? Did you just make that up? Throw out a name or link or something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29760374


1) No...they began at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. Didn't pay attention in history class did you?

2) yes...Democraps are laundering money via unions and the elected officials who keep that circle jerk of taxpayer money going.
AGAIN... this is OLD news and history....were you stoned all thru history class?...or even when the Wisconsin battle was going on last year?....and the year before???

It's too bad that you didn't even watch the mini-series on the History Channel about "THE MEN WHO BUILT AMERICA" and you would have had ANOTHER opportunity to learn how unions came about.

Ever hear of the Pinkertons either? Probably not.


Public education failsmile

(also brought to you by the unions) grnrolleyes


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THE MEN WHO BUILT AMERICA, was a great series. I knew most of it, but what a great educational film for those union taught students that maybe watched it.
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I found many things in that series that surprised me actually. I didn't realize what UBER tyrants the early years of the Industrial Revolution bred.
That country club based dam they made that wiped out the whole town...and most of Carnegie's reputation was sickening. There were a few other eye openers too....but it really was still kind of like The Wild West in those days and people got away with a lot.

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I found many things in that series that surprised me actually. I didn't realize what UBER tyrants the early years of the Industrial Revolution bred.
That country club based dam they made that wiped out the whole town...and most of Carnegie's reputation was sickening. There were a few other eye openers too....but it really was still kind of like The Wild West in those days and people got away with a lot.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Boston Molasses Disaster, also known as the Great Molasses Flood and the Great Boston Molasses Tragedy, occurred on January 15, 1919, in the North End neighborhood of Boston, Massachusetts in the United States. A large molasses storage tank burst, and a wave of molasses rushed through the streets at an estimated 35 mph (56 km/h), killing 21 and injuring 150. The event has entered local folklore, and some residents claim that on hot summer days, the area still smells of molasses.[1]
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Fascist's always go after the Unions first.
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SO ARE THEY GOING TO START A CIVIL WAR AND SHED BLOOD.

ARE THEY GOING TO KILL PEOPLE WHO TRY TO WORK WITHOUT JOINING THEIR UNIONS?

OH MY GAWD.......WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?
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Fuck you asshole
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I make 3o bucks an hour to pack cookies In boxes with 3 hour long breaks very cushy love it
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I make 3o bucks an hour to pack cookies In boxes with 3 hour long breaks very cushy love it
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I thought labor unions originated in the guilds of the middle ages.

I also thought redbaiting would have ended with the breakup of the USSR. You still worried about commies? Is there still a mafia? Do you really believe labor will organize again and be so naive as to let the "mafia" walk in and take over?

What money were Democrats laundering through unions? Did you just make that up? Throw out a name or link or something.
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1) No...they began at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. Didn't pay attention in history class did you?

2) yes...Democraps are laundering money via unions and the elected officials who keep that circle jerk of taxpayer money going.
AGAIN... this is OLD news and history....were you stoned all thru history class?...or even when the Wisconsin battle was going on last year?....and the year before???

It's too bad that you didn't even watch the mini-series on the History Channel about "THE MEN WHO BUILT AMERICA" and you would have had ANOTHER opportunity to learn how unions came about.

Ever hear of the Pinkertons either? Probably not.


Public education failsmile

(also brought to you by the unions) grnrolleyes


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THE MEN WHO BUILT AMERICA, was a great series. I knew most of it, but what a great educational film for those union taught students that maybe watched it.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


I found many things in that series that surprised me actually. I didn't realize what UBER tyrants the early years of the Industrial Revolution bred.
That country club based dam they made that wiped out the whole town...and most of Carnegie's reputation was sickening. There were a few other eye openers too....but it really was still kind of like The Wild West in those days and people got away with a lot.
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It was very much dog eat dog for sure, but those players were really no different than companies today if you think about it. One will destroy the other if given the chance, but that is what drives companies to out perform their competitors. Our system, and it works well without Communist control, but is dying under it.
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Unions, as an idea, are great.

They keep management honest, and get a decent wage for a hard day's work.

In practice, however, they do not police their own ranks, which leads to corruption.

If they held their members accountable, nobody would ever bash unions. If you were a member of a union, and were incredibly lazy, and were then kicked out of the union, nobody would ever bash unions.

Unions, in principle, are necessary. Corporations have, in fact, corrupted unions to the point where they have self destructed which was their plan all along.

Nobody to stand up for the worker, so they can charge less and profit more. To all of the corporate shills out there, I think you have something on your chin.
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1) No...they began at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. Didn't pay attention in history class did you?

2) yes...Democraps are laundering money via unions and the elected officials who keep that circle jerk of taxpayer money going.
AGAIN... this is OLD news and history....were you stoned all thru history class?...or even when the Wisconsin battle was going on last year?....and the year before???

It's too bad that you didn't even watch the mini-series on the History Channel about "THE MEN WHO BUILT AMERICA" and you would have had ANOTHER opportunity to learn how unions came about.

Ever hear of the Pinkertons either? Probably not.


Public education failsmile

(also brought to you by the unions) grnrolleyes


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THE MEN WHO BUILT AMERICA, was a great series. I knew most of it, but what a great educational film for those union taught students that maybe watched it.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


I found many things in that series that surprised me actually. I didn't realize what UBER tyrants the early years of the Industrial Revolution bred.
That country club based dam they made that wiped out the whole town...and most of Carnegie's reputation was sickening. There were a few other eye openers too....but it really was still kind of like The Wild West in those days and people got away with a lot.
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It was very much dog eat dog for sure, but those players were really no different than companies today if you think about it. One will destroy the other if given the chance, but that is what drives companies to out perform their competitors. Our system, and it works well without Communist control, but is dying under it.
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I don't know if I totally agree. Companies today have uber many more restrictions and regulations on them that prevent them from going at each others throats like the old days of the Industrial Revolution. They don't try to "destroy" each other in the same way as it was back then. It's more civilized now....and no one on that level get totally annihilated like the Vanderbilt "railroad wars".

...then again....there were no laws to stop them from doing that to each other. It's almost like they were taking clubs to each others heads back then.

It is true too, the Capitalist system....when left alone and uncorrupted by individual greed or government facists does well.....but we are talking about a Utopia that will never totally exist as long as there are men who still seek to control others and their assets.

We have one of them in the Whitehouse right now unfortunately.

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THE MEN WHO BUILT AMERICA, was a great series. I knew most of it, but what a great educational film for those union taught students that maybe watched it.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


I found many things in that series that surprised me actually. I didn't realize what UBER tyrants the early years of the Industrial Revolution bred.
That country club based dam they made that wiped out the whole town...and most of Carnegie's reputation was sickening. There were a few other eye openers too....but it really was still kind of like The Wild West in those days and people got away with a lot.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


It was very much dog eat dog for sure, but those players were really no different than companies today if you think about it. One will destroy the other if given the chance, but that is what drives companies to out perform their competitors. Our system, and it works well without Communist control, but is dying under it.
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I don't know if I totally agree. Companies today have uber many more restrictions and regulations on them that prevent them from going at each others throats like the old days of the Industrial Revolution. They don't try to "destroy" each other in the same way as it was back then. It's more civilized now....and no one on that level get totally annihilated like the Vanderbilt "railroad wars".

...then again....there were no laws to stop them from doing that to each other. It's almost like they were taking clubs to each others heads back then.

It is true too, the Capitalist system....when left alone and uncorrupted by individual greed or government facists does well.....but we are talking about a Utopia that will never totally exist as long as there are men who still seek to control others and their assets.

We have one of them in the Whitehouse right now unfortunately.

eastlight
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Key words, regulations and civilized. How-ever, with corrupt government entities help, some companies can get away with a great deal of undesirable behavior. General Electric being one grand example. Got to call it a night, but enjoyed the exchanges. DF
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Corporations would happily pay their workers nothing if they could get away with it. Unions are necessary to counter corporate greed and other abuses like child labor. This country lived off of slave labor for many years. The modern form of slave labor is prison labor and shipping jobs overseas to the lowest bidder.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


You are so right about corporations . . . and so wrong about unions.

Today, unions are THUGS.

They care NOTHING about the membership . . . they care about the dues and power in numbers, that's all.

It's about power for the "upper" union people and the ONLY ones in the membership they care about all the lowest, scummiest, most ignorant because they can be easily manipulated.

When those types of lowlifes get in trouble and lose their jobs, the unions will fight like crazy to get them back in so they will be forever indebted to them and thus, will be willing servants to the union.

But if you're a decent, honest worker and need the union to be your representative, forget about it . . . especially if you're an employee/member who takes a stand and actually thinks for yourself.

Bottom line: The working class is screwed.
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Now THIS is the TRUTH!

I was in a union once and this is exactly what happened to me...When I needed them they outright refused to represent me. I paid all my dues and was not in arrears. I had to go to "meetings" with management without a representative. I was so scared of being railroaded I took a tape recorder with me and openenly put it on the table before the managers. They told me I couldn't do that and I told them I certaily could because I had no representative there with me. The managers would then cancel the "meeting".

I have nothing good to say about unions because I have no good experience with them.

When I got a divorce in earlier years (just a woman with a little baby alone in the world with no job)....my ex-husband got his uncle to use their unions JUDGE to preside over the case and I got slaughtered.

When I did work for the union in later years the union president told the stewarts not to represent me....

so where was all the wonderfulness of the union for me?
They didn't have my back. They didn't stand up for me
Because unions are in bed with management
and I am sure there are lots of other horror stories about threats and even bodily harm to workers who did not go along to get along.

What these union workers and unions don't seem to get is that we are financially collapsing in this country period!

There is no money to maintain the past normal and we are headed into a "new normal" of poverty and third world status that won't and can't support the lives we lived in the past.

A lot of these workers have a life style that needs xxxxx amount of dollars to support them and the money just isn't there any more.

When I worked for the union......many, many people there worked all the overtime they could get and upped the cost of their lifestyles with debt. They absolutely needed that OT money to keep afloat and then the obvious happened .....the OT disappeared sending them crashing into their sea of debt and driving many of them off the cliff.
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Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH THE UNIONS?
Corporations would happily pay their workers nothing if they could get away with it. Unions are necessary to counter corporate greed and other abuses like child labor. This country lived off of slave labor for many years. The modern form of slave labor is prison labor and shipping jobs overseas to the lowest bidder.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


You are so right about corporations . . . and so wrong about unions.

Today, unions are THUGS.

They care NOTHING about the membership . . . they care about the dues and power in numbers, that's all.

It's about power for the "upper" union people and the ONLY ones in the membership they care about all the lowest, scummiest, most ignorant because they can be easily manipulated.

When those types of lowlifes get in trouble and lose their jobs, the unions will fight like crazy to get them back in so they will be forever indebted to them and thus, will be willing servants to the union.

But if you're a decent, honest worker and need the union to be your representative, forget about it . . . especially if you're an employee/member who takes a stand and actually thinks for yourself.

Bottom line: The working class is screwed.
 Quoting: itsamadmadworld


Now THIS is the TRUTH!

I was in a union once and this is exactly what happened to me...When I needed them they outright refused to represent me. I paid all my dues and was not in arrears. I had to go to "meetings" with management without a representative. I was so scared of being railroaded I took a tape recorder with me and openenly put it on the table before the managers. They told me I couldn't do that and I told them I certaily could because I had no representative there with me. The managers would then cancel the "meeting".

I have nothing good to say about unions because I have no good experience with them.

When I got a divorce in earlier years (just a woman with a little baby alone in the world with no job)....my ex-husband got his uncle to use their unions JUDGE to preside over the case and I got slaughtered.

When I did work for the union in later years the union president told the stewarts not to represent me....

so where was all the wonderfulness of the union for me?
They didn't have my back. They didn't stand up for me
Because unions are in bed with management
and I am sure there are lots of other horror stories about threats and even bodily harm to workers who did not go along to get along.

What these union workers and unions don't seem to get is that we are financially collapsing in this country period!

There is no money to maintain the past normal and we are headed into a "new normal" of poverty and third world status that won't and can't support the lives we lived in the past.

A lot of these workers have a life style that needs xxxxx amount of dollars to support them and the money just isn't there any more.

When I worked for the union......many, many people there worked all the overtime they could get and upped the cost of their lifestyles with debt. They absolutely needed that OT money to keep afloat and then the obvious happened .....the OT disappeared sending them crashing into their sea of debt and driving many of them off the cliff.
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Not an isolated incident I'm afraid, I know of many.
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Re: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH THE UNIONS?
Corporations would happily pay their workers nothing if they could get away with it. Unions are necessary to counter corporate greed and other abuses like child labor. This country lived off of slave labor for many years. The modern form of slave labor is prison labor and shipping jobs overseas to the lowest bidder.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


Explain the right to work states, their economies, by and large, as compared to union states, and why people are coming to them in droves to work in those nasty corporations because they PAY well, they're more secure and the economy is better in those areas?

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