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The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?

 
book v movie
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The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
For instance I know the scene in the bath room with Jack and the naked lady did not happen in the book.

Did the gold room scene happen in the book? I've heard the room was not gold but maybe the room was never there?

This is where the drink gets split on Jack (in the Gold room) and he has that chat with Grady in the bathroom? Did that chat happen in the book?

What about the scene in the panty when Jack has been shut after being smacked in the head by Wendy and Grady lets him out ... did that happen in the book?

Also where he steals the pieces out of the radio and the snow cat.
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12/13/2012 12:00 AM
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The book has a lot more backstory on both Jack and the hotel, and some extra scenes.

The scenes with grady took place at the bar in the big room (is this what you mean by the "gold room"? I forgot, its been a while since I saw the movie or red the book). There are some extra scenes in that big room; he hallucinates lots of old scenes from the hotel's history in there, like a masked ball, etc.

There is more on the book about Jack's past, how he was a problem drinker, lost his job as a teacher, and broke Danny's arm by accident when he was drunk.

What else...they go into more of the hotel's history, talk about an incident involivng mobster who stayed there. Also in the book, there is no big maze garden. There is a topiary garden with animals instead, and they move and attack Jack and Danny. The final scene of the defeat of Jack is not out in the garden maze but in the hotel. Also doesn't the black guy die in the movie? He lives and escapes with Danny and the mom in the book.

That'S all I can think of offhand; there is probably more.
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
The book has a lot more backstory on both Jack and the hotel, and some extra scenes.

The scenes with grady took place at the bar in the big room (is this what you mean by the "gold room"? I forgot, its been a while since I saw the movie or red the book). There are some extra scenes in that big room; he hallucinates lots of old scenes from the hotel's history in there, like a masked ball, etc.

There is more on the book about Jack's past, how he was a problem drinker, lost his job as a teacher, and broke Danny's arm by accident when he was drunk.

What else...they go into more of the hotel's history, talk about an incident involivng mobster who stayed there. Also in the book, there is no big maze garden. There is a topiary garden with animals instead, and they move and attack Jack and Danny. The final scene of the defeat of Jack is not out in the garden maze but in the hotel. Also doesn't the black guy die in the movie? He lives and escapes with Danny and the mom in the book.

That'S all I can think of offhand; there is probably more.
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
Just read the book. The sequel is out in September. Doctor Sleep, or something like that.
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
Just read the book. The sequel is out in September. Doctor Sleep, or something like that.
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Yeah I probably will. I am briefly analyzing Kubrick's film and so need to known where it differed from the book.

I was hoping there might be some buff on here who just knows the answers to the questions in post one.

Is the sequel a book or a film?
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12/13/2012 12:27 AM
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
Read it years ago - at the end didnt the boiler blow and take the hotel with it?
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What about the scene in the panty when Jack has been shut after being smacked in the head by Wendy and Grady lets him out ... did that happen in the book?

Also where he steals the pieces out of the radio and the snow cat.
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The scene in the pantry happened in the book; don't know if it was exactly the same, but what you described was in there. In the book, he breaks the radio because he hallucinates some voices coming out of it...his dead father (who was also a violent drunk), I think, or somebody talking about his dead father. Not sure. Anway, he freaks out and smashes the radio. Also he sabatages the snow cat in some way, I think it might be the battery.
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Read it years ago - at the end didnt the boiler blow and take the hotel with it?
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Yes, that definitely happened in the book. Was it different in the movie?
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
Read it years ago - at the end didnt the boiler blow and take the hotel with it?
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Yes, that definitely happened in the book. Was it different in the movie?
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The hotel does not blow up in the movie. Jack freezes to death outside.
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
Just read the book. The sequel is out in September. Doctor Sleep, or something like that.
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Yeah I probably will. I am briefly analyzing Kubrick's film and so need to known where it differed from the book.

I was hoping there might be some buff on here who just knows the answers to the questions in post one.

Is the sequel a book or a film?
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Watch Kubrick's Odyssey. It will explain a lot.
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
Just read the book. The sequel is out in September. Doctor Sleep, or something like that.
 Quoting: Meggarea


Yeah I probably will. I am briefly analyzing Kubrick's film and so need to known where it differed from the book.

I was hoping there might be some buff on here who just knows the answers to the questions in post one.

Is the sequel a book or a film?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


Watch Kubrick's Odyssey. It will explain a lot.
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I've got that, it is interesting.
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
You should watch 'Stephen King's The Shining'. Huge difference in style and depth and is definitely more in tune with King's vision. Kubrick was trying to say something personal using subliminal messaging with his version; not sure to who. You see more of Danny's friend Tony in the book and SK's movie version. You also see how haunted the Overlook really is.
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
What about this ... REⱭЯUM

Did that get written on the door in the book?
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Sorry the above was redrum ^^^
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
You should watch 'Stephen King's The Shining'. Huge difference in style and depth and is definitely more in tune with King's vision. Kubrick was trying to say something personal using subliminal messaging with his version; not sure to who. You see more of Danny's friend Tony in the book and SK's movie version. You also see how haunted the Overlook really is.
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I think I have seen it and was confused because it was so different from Kubricks.
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
Now that I started thinking about this it seems there are tons of differences.

The Kubric version is like a kubric move: it has really slow, almost minimal pacing. Dialogue is shorter. There is lots of "lingering" over things, lots of action that is visual rather than verbal.

The book has a whole different "feel." It's more like a typical Stephen King book. More dialoge, more "chatter", more stuff that goes on in people's heads or is related to the hotel somehow that never gets touched in the movie. It has a denser, less "minimalist" feel to it.

I just remembered something else... that "all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" thing was only in the movie, that wasn't in the book I'm pretty sure.
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
You should watch 'Stephen King's The Shining'. Huge difference in style and depth and is definitely more in tune with King's vision. Kubrick was trying to say something personal using subliminal messaging with his version; not sure to who. You see more of Danny's friend Tony in the book and SK's movie version. You also see how haunted the Overlook really is.
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I think I have seen it and was confused because it was so different from Kubricks.
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I have watched it as well and while I very much enjoy Kubricks film, the other movie is closer to the book.
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
Now that I started thinking about this it seems there are tons of differences.

The Kubric version is like a kubric move: it has really slow, almost minimal pacing. Dialogue is shorter. There is lots of "lingering" over things, lots of action that is visual rather than verbal.

The book has a whole different "feel." It's more like a typical Stephen King book. More dialoge, more "chatter", more stuff that goes on in people's heads or is related to the hotel somehow that never gets touched in the movie. It has a denser, less "minimalist" feel to it.

I just remembered something else... that "all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" thing was only in the movie, that wasn't in the book I'm pretty sure.
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Thanks and the redrum (murder spelt backwards) was that there?

I'm assuming it was.
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?

Thanks and the redrum (murder spelt backwards) was that there?

I'm assuming it was.
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It was in Danny's mind in the book. Tony showed it to him and he hallucinated the word several times but it took him a long time to figure out what it actually meant. I can't recall if it was actually physically written anywhere but it came up repeatedly in Danny's mind.
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Thanks and the redrum (murder spelt backwards) was that there?

I'm assuming it was.
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It was in Danny's mind in the book. Tony showed it to him and he hallucinated the word several times but it took him a long time to figure out what it actually meant. I can't recall if it was actually physically written anywhere but it came up repeatedly in Danny's mind.
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
I read the book over the summer and it's a pretty good read. I could see why Stephen King didn't like the film adaption because I found them to be very different.
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
Just read the book. The sequel is out in September. Doctor Sleep, or something like that.
 Quoting: Meggarea


Yeah I probably will. I am briefly analyzing Kubrick's film and so need to known where it differed from the book.

I was hoping there might be some buff on here who just knows the answers to the questions in post one.

Is the sequel a book or a film?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 945308


Watch Kubrick's Odyssey. It will explain a lot.
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^^^THIS^^^
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Re: The "shining" the book -- how does it differ from the film?
The sequel is a book. Mr. King doesn't usually do sequels, I am excited! :)