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How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?

 
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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
Nope. You focus on the sunset-sunrise too much.

If the day is defined by the earth's rotation, it does not matter wether a sun exists or not. 1 day = 1 turn. So the term "day" (aka "turn") could very well exist and be defined before the sun was created. This is a logical fact.
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I do appreciate your scientific approach much. hf Still not what the Bible says itself.
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Well, what does the bible say?! That was my original "care to elaborate" question :)
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Sun created after 3 days could not have rissen the days before IMO.
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Nope. You focus on the sunset-sunrise too much.

If the day is defined by the earth's rotation, it does not matter wether a sun exists or not. 1 day = 1 turn. So the term "day" (aka "turn") could very well exist and be defined before the sun was created. This is a logical fact.
 Quoting: Face Palmer


I do appreciate your scientific approach much. hf Still not what the Bible says itself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Well, what does the bible say?! That was my original "care to elaborate" question :)
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Sun created after 3 days could not have rissen the days before IMO.
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Well as I said. A Day is independent of the sun. You just refuse to accept this.

Other planets may have more than one sun, where one may shine much more often and longer as the other. How would you define a "day" for this planet?! For every planet in our solar system, the term day defines one full rotation around its own axis and the term year one turn around the sun. Of course a day on Neptune is different to a day on earth.
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I do appreciate your scientific approach much. hf Still not what the Bible says itself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Well, what does the bible say?! That was my original "care to elaborate" question :)
 Quoting: Face Palmer


Sun created after 3 days could not have rissen the days before IMO.
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Well as I said. A Day is independent of the sun. You just refuse to accept this.

Other planets may have more than one sun, where one may shine much more often and longer as the other. How would you define a "day" for this planet?! For every planet in our solar system, the term day defines one full rotation around its own axis and the term year one turn around the sun. Of course a day on Neptune is different to a day on earth.
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Well, what does the bible say?! That was my original "care to elaborate" question :)
 Quoting: Face Palmer


Sun created after 3 days could not have rissen the days before IMO.
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Well as I said. A Day is independent of the sun. You just refuse to accept this.

Other planets may have more than one sun, where one may shine much more often and longer as the other. How would you define a "day" for this planet?! For every planet in our solar system, the term day defines one full rotation around its own axis and the term year one turn around the sun. Of course a day on Neptune is different to a day on earth.
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peace
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Conclusion: Your question how it could be possible that the sun was created on the 3rd "day" was answered using simple logic, yet you refuse to believe. You don't WANT to believe. Its ok to just state that, no need for stupid arguments. hf

Next!

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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
For example:

Why aren't we all retarded, since we all have incest origins with only Adam and Eve as the source humans?

How could god make the sun on the fourth day - when you need the sun to define the term "day"?

Why did the israelites take 40 years to cross the desert when there is no desert that is large enough to take 40 years?

Dinosaurs. There is no fucking way, the earth is only 8000 years old.

I'm sure there are more examples of BS in the bible. But since I'm no thumper, I don't know em all. Feel free to add BS examples
 Quoting: Sisong 6059019


The inconsistencies are only because of mans lack of awareness or light, effecting our perception of reality.

Thus the bible conveys different messages to different view types.

The lower levels are easy to read, the higher ones, man is slowly stepping behind the vail.

A rise of awareness, conveys a better understanding of our self and of God.

Thus many parts of the bible are symbolic in nature, speaking to the subliminal side of man, weather man hears or not, depends on his awareness levels.

The awareness comes from darkness, for we can only come into new awareness of somthing that was previously hidden, blind of sight.

Also the inconsistencies are a test within them self for man, and serves a purpose, for it is a challenge of man to break through the fog and see with understanding.

When it comes down to it, the bible is just a book, nothing more nothing less, but it is the teachings of the higher levels within that book, that when sycrinized with the heart, produces the desired results, and which carries the true value.

In saying that them seeds can be found in many other books as well, found within many different creeds, some are just more vailed than others.

Love and light

hf
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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
Ephesians 1:18-19
18 I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, 19 and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength,


1 Corinthians 2:14
14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.


Matthew 11:25
25 At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.


Ephesians 4:18
18 They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts.


Romans 1:21-22
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools.


2 Corinthians 4:3
3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.


2 Corinthians 3:15
15 Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts.16 But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
do some research before you shit out your mouth
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Close your stupid mouth before the shit comes out. Ooops too late its all over your studid god fearing face. Oh no now you've got it in your eyes.

HAHAHAHAH!!!!! retard
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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
do some research before you shit out your mouth
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Close your stupid mouth before the shit comes out. Ooops too late its all over your studid god fearing face. Oh no now you've got it in your eyes.

HAHAHAHAH!!!!! retard
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Bless you, for I do not feel defiled or insulted; more, it even pleases that the work is done.
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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
Well, actually its not the sun that defines the term day, its the rotation of the earth. 1 turn around its own axis = 1 day. Think about it ffs!
C'mon are you people really that fucking stupid?!

Here, from wikipedia for the smartypants:

Besides the day of 24 hours (86,400 seconds), the word day is used for several different spans of time based on the rotation of the Earth around its axis.

I made it bold so you don't miss it.

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How do you measure that period, by the shadow created by the sunbeing back in the same position, call it evening. Bolded to remind me I have already it it.Perhaps Sumeria was the place that followed the seasons, like Winteria only warmer.
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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
For example:

Why aren't we all retarded, since we all have incest origins with only Adam and Eve as the source humans?

How could god make the sun on the fourth day - when you need the sun to define the term "day"?

Why did the israelites take 40 years to cross the desert when there is no desert that is large enough to take 40 years?

Dinosaurs. There is no fucking way, the earth is only 8000 years old.

I'm sure there are more examples of BS in the bible. But since I'm no thumper, I don't know em all. Feel free to add BS examples
 Quoting: Sisong 6059019


The inconsistencies are only because of mans lack of awareness or light, effecting our perception of reality.

Thus the bible conveys different messages to different view types.

The lower levels are easy to read, the higher ones, man is slowly stepping behind the vail.

A rise of awareness, conveys a better understanding of our self and of God.

Thus many parts of the bible are symbolic in nature, speaking to the subliminal side of man, weather man hears or not, depends on his awareness levels.

The awareness comes from darkness, for we can only come into new awareness of somthing that was previously hidden, blind of sight.

Also the inconsistencies are a test within them self for man, and serves a purpose, for it is a challenge of man to break through the fog and see with understanding.

When it comes down to it, the bible is just a book, nothing more nothing less, but it is the teachings of the higher levels within that book, that when sycrinized with the heart, produces the desired results, and which carries the true value.

In saying that them seeds can be found in many other books as well, found within many different creeds, some are just more vailed than others.

Love and light

hf
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This is true, I read Moby Dick everyday and it guides me.
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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
"Diversity came from the fallen angels known as 'sons of God'"

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Not true at all. Angels do not breed since they are spirit beings.

Sons of God are God's people.
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Jude:1:5:
I will therefore put you in remembrance,
though ye once knew this,
how that the Lord,
having saved the people out of the land of Egypt,
afterward destroyed them that believed not.
Jude:1:6:
And the angels which kept not their first estate,
but left their own habitation,
he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jude:1:7:
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha,
and the cities about them in like manner,
giving themselves over to fornication,
and going after strange flesh,

are set forth for an example,
suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Jude:1:8:
Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh,
despise dominion,
and speak evil of dignities.

Da:2:43:
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay,
they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men:
but they shall not cleave one to another,
even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Da:9:1:
In the first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus,
of the seed of the Medes,

which was made king over the realm of the Chaldeans;

The term used in Daniel is the same as the meaning use in the Ge:3:15 when Eve's seed is used. See has the same meaning in Daniel Right?




Just for this argument, if 4 fallen angels can manifest into 200M horses and riders that means each is 50M. A population of 5B would be 100 Angels strong, 10,000 like the ones that put the fallen angels into the Pit would be 50x that number. Enoch has a list that could be used as the whole earth was up for grabs, same land-forms it has today. 20 would be 4B people when 80 Angels are there.

2Pe:2:12:
But these,
as natural brute beasts,
made to be taken and destroyed,
speak evil of the things that they understand not;
and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

Jude:1:10:
But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally,
as brute beasts,
in those things they corrupt themselves.
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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
I don't think a good Christian would attempt to explain inconsistencies of the Bible. I believe a good Christian would know that the Bible has obviously been altered by man, even if originally it was the word of God Himself.
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How do you measure that period, by the shadow created by the sunbeing back in the same position, call it evening.
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Any fixed point will do.

Last Edited by Face Palmer on 12/13/2012 10:34 AM
"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

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Have mercy with this guy, he's a german and not very well educated apparently.

Two hints OP; DNA can wither and you can walk around in your basement for years.
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Oh, that explains it. Liberals aren't very smart about things like truth.
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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
Since i believe you are sincere with this question I will say there are as many answers as their are versions of Christianity today.

Most Christians believe that Genesis is metaphoric in nature, and representative as a simplified meaning for something to grand for humns to explain.

That being said, there is a huge population of young Earth creationists living almost exclusively in the U.S. who believe everything in the bible as literal. From my understanding they believe carbon dating is flawed and innaccurate and that dinosaurs existed with man. Everything else is by the power of God and therefore doesn't need science to be explained.

THen, there are Christians who reject the old testament completely and believe it to be the workings of an evil God. These Christians are rare but had a following immediately after Christs death, and then again in the Middle Ages where their number grew quite large but they were murdered by the Catholic Church.

So, basically, you are assuming a lot with your question and that's why you are getting some grief. Not all Christians interpret the bible the same way,
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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
For example:

Why aren't we all retarded, since we all have incest origins with only Adam and Eve as the source humans?

How could god make the sun on the fourth day - when you need the sun to define the term "day"?

Why did the israelites take 40 years to cross the desert when there is no desert that is large enough to take 40 years?

Dinosaurs. There is no fucking way, the earth is only 8000 years old.

I'm sure there are more examples of BS in the bible. But since I'm no thumper, I don't know em all. Feel free to add BS examples
 Quoting: Sisong 6059019


The inconsistencies are only because of mans lack of awareness or light, effecting our perception of reality.

Thus the bible conveys different messages to different view types.

The lower levels are easy to read, the higher ones, man is slowly stepping behind the vail.

A rise of awareness, conveys a better understanding of our self and of God.

Thus many parts of the bible are symbolic in nature, speaking to the subliminal side of man, weather man hears or not, depends on his awareness levels.

The awareness comes from darkness, for we can only come into new awareness of somthing that was previously hidden, blind of sight.

Also the inconsistencies are a test within them self for man, and serves a purpose, for it is a challenge of man to break through the fog and see with understanding.

When it comes down to it, the bible is just a book, nothing more nothing less, but it is the teachings of the higher levels within that book, that when sycrinized with the heart, produces the desired results, and which carries the true value.

In saying that them seeds can be found in many other books as well, found within many different creeds, some are just more vailed than others.

Love and light

hf
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This is true, I read Moby Dick everyday and it guides me.
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On how to fish for whale better? Awesome!
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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
We realize our Christian god is imperfect just like man. God makes mistakes too.
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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
do some research before you shit out your mouth
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Simple as that. I don't even care to answer his questions.
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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
For example:

Why aren't we all retarded, since we all have incest origins with only Adam and Eve as the source humans?

How could god make the sun on the fourth day - when you need the sun to define the term "day"?

Why did the israelites take 40 years to cross the desert when there is no desert that is large enough to take 40 years?

Dinosaurs. There is no fucking way, the earth is only 8000 years old.

I'm sure there are more examples of BS in the bible. But since I'm no thumper, I don't know em all. Feel free to add BS examples
 Quoting: Sisong 6059019


The inconsistencies are only because of mans lack of awareness or light, effecting our perception of reality.

Thus the bible conveys different messages to different view types.

The lower levels are easy to read, the higher ones, man is slowly stepping behind the vail.

A rise of awareness, conveys a better understanding of our self and of God.

Thus many parts of the bible are symbolic in nature, speaking to the subliminal side of man, weather man hears or not, depends on his awareness levels.

The awareness comes from darkness, for we can only come into new awareness of somthing that was previously hidden, blind of sight.

Also the inconsistencies are a test within them self for man, and serves a purpose, for it is a challenge of man to break through the fog and see with understanding.

When it comes down to it, the bible is just a book, nothing more nothing less, but it is the teachings of the higher levels within that book, that when sycrinized with the heart, produces the desired results, and which carries the true value.

In saying that them seeds can be found in many other books as well, found within many different creeds, some are just more vailed than others.

Love and light

hf
 Quoting: Ra 29775634


This is true, I read Moby Dick everyday and it guides me.
 Quoting: Dr.Ricks


That is full of falsehood. You should read Winnie ther Poo like I do. It is full of Poo wisdom.

Do you wany me to quote some?
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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
For example:

Why aren't we all retarded, since we all have incest origins with only Adam and Eve as the source humans?

How could god make the sun on the fourth day - when you need the sun to define the term "day"?

Why did the israelites take 40 years to cross the desert when there is no desert that is large enough to take 40 years?

Dinosaurs. There is no fucking way, the earth is only 8000 years old.

I'm sure there are more examples of BS in the bible. But since I'm no thumper, I don't know em all. Feel free to add BS examples
 Quoting: Sisong 6059019


The inconsistencies are only because of mans lack of awareness or light, effecting our perception of reality.

Thus the bible conveys different messages to different view types.

The lower levels are easy to read, the higher ones, man is slowly stepping behind the vail.

A rise of awareness, conveys a better understanding of our self and of God.

Thus many parts of the bible are symbolic in nature, speaking to the subliminal side of man, weather man hears or not, depends on his awareness levels.

The awareness comes from darkness, for we can only come into new awareness of somthing that was previously hidden, blind of sight.

Also the inconsistencies are a test within them self for man, and serves a purpose, for it is a challenge of man to break through the fog and see with understanding.

When it comes down to it, the bible is just a book, nothing more nothing less, but it is the teachings of the higher levels within that book, that when sycrinized with the heart, produces the desired results, and which carries the true value.

In saying that them seeds can be found in many other books as well, found within many different creeds, some are just more vailed than others.

Love and light

hf
 Quoting: Ra 29775634


This is true, I read Moby Dick everyday and it guides me.
 Quoting: Dr.Ricks


That is full of falsehood. You should read Winnie ther Poo like I do. It is full of Poo wisdom.

Do you wany me to quote some?
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Yes I would like that very much
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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
God was the light himself for the first few days.

The crossing of the desert? How did you come up with knowing how long. Did you map out the desert, figure the average speed a person walks then put it in your own mind what you think it takes to travel? Think of it this way. It takes me a mere 20 minutes to walk downtown to my job but if I were in charge of my entire lineage of family it'd probably take more than an hour.

The word Dinosaur wasn't invented till the 1800's. The word dragon is used and found ALLL over the world throughout ALL TIME.

The incest is because historic man was not barbaric. He was not a cave dwelling creature. Yes, I've done the research on cro magnon man and all these "missing links" that are nothing more than wishful thinking. Just because you don't find an 8,000 year old iPad looking device or computers etc... These people were mostly all brilliant and were not dependent on technology to run their lives. Their homes didn't constantly need to be heated/cooled. Machines to cook them breakfast. Computers to figure out equation. If you do the research historic man was extremely smart.

All of these answers are out there I promise you :)
Forgive all these people being rude to you and avoiding the question. Even if I did post links, articles, and videos we would still be scolded. Google is your friend. Christians are your friends (despite what anyone else or the media has you believe) and so are books. LOTS of books.

We have a whole lifetime of searching for them. Christians are not God, they are not all knowing neither is any human who ever lived. So please if someone can't answer your question do not attack someone. In your view would you verbally attack a scientist because they couldn't answer every single question of yours?

DO your own research but ALL Christians should instantly be glad to answer your questions. There are plenty (and I mean plenty) of brilliant and hardworking people finding out these answers daily.
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Re: How do christians explain the inconsistencies of the bible?
For example:

Why aren't we all retarded, since we all have incest origins with only Adam and Eve as the source humans?

How could god make the sun on the fourth day - when you need the sun to define the term "day"?

Why did the israelites take 40 years to cross the desert when there is no desert that is large enough to take 40 years?

Dinosaurs. There is no fucking way, the earth is only 8000 years old.

I'm sure there are more examples of BS in the bible. But since I'm no thumper, I don't know em all. Feel free to add BS examples
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