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Blood suckers! "McDonald's Worker, Still Makes Minimum Wage After 20 Years Of Service"

 
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Minimum Wage, 20 years ago was $4.25, Minimum wage now is $7.25
[link to www.dol.gov]

One who chooses to work a "Minimum Wage" job has "No Business" complaining about the pay.

McDonald's has Promotion Steps, that this employee "Could Have" taken advantage of, yet over the years he choose to stay at the "Minimum Wage" Job Description level and "Purposely Not" enter the "Managerial Levels" McDonald's provides for its employee's.


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Minimum Wage, 20 years ago was $4.25, Minimum wage now is $7.25
[link to www.dol.gov]

One who chooses to work a "Minimum Wage" job has "No Business" complaining about the pay.

McDonald's has Promotion Steps, that this employee "Could Have" taken advantage of, yet over the years he choose to stay at the "Minimum Wage" Job Description level and "Purposely Not" enter the "Managerial Levels" McDonald's provides for its employee's.

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Also it's supply and demand...he could walk off the job and be replaced before he gets out the door...low skill = low pay
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If someone keeps walking into a wall, is it the wall's fault for not moving out of the way?
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Minimum Wage, 20 years ago was $4.25, Minimum wage now is $7.25
[link to www.dol.gov]

One who chooses to work a "Minimum Wage" job has "No Business" complaining about the pay.

McDonald's has Promotion Steps, that this employee "Could Have" taken advantage of, yet over the years he choose to stay at the "Minimum Wage" Job Description level and "Purposely Not" enter the "Managerial Levels" McDonald's provides for its employee's.

 Quoting: biscuits and gravy


Also it's supply and demand...he could walk off the job and be replaced before he gets out the door...low skill = low pay
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At least he has a job. You got to give him credit for being motivated enough to work for a living instead of living off the government teet.
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Very true, and he may be a wizard at something completely different than food service, just because he hasn't mastered the restaurant doesn't mean he's a bad worker.
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It would benefit him greatly to try to move up in rank at McD's.

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If I choose to swim in the sewer, it's my fault I smell like crap.
Likewise, if I choose to work at a place where min wage is the top pay, it's my own damnfault.
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I wonder when people will realize that if we paid everyone really high wages at places like this, the prices for the goods/services they provide would be higher than the average person would pay. The company still has to make money to provide jobs for these workers.
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The communists don't think any business should make a profit...they believe everyone should make the same amount regardless of the fact that the business owner puts in more hours and takes all the risk...
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You're right, now successful people/businesses are mocked by liberals and punished by our leaders, for simply being successful. Why don't they punish themselves too, instead of making light humor of the subject? Because its only ok for liberals to be rich...
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See what I mean?
I told you they would say that.
Brainwashed people are predictable... they've been trained to live in poverty and think like a billionaire, :-/
In some ways it's bizarre, but because it's so little of a surprise, it really takes the edge off of how strange it really is. The important thing is not to engage those types. Don't acknowledge them, it gives a sense of legitimacy to their opinions.
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See what I mean?
I told you they would say that.
Brainwashed people are predictable... they've been trained to live in poverty and think like a billionaire, :-/
In some ways it's bizarre, but because it's so little of a surprise, it really takes the edge off of how strange it really is. The important thing is not to engage those types. Don't acknowledge them, it gives a sense of legitimacy to their opinions.
 Quoting: Mg 29663307


Which part of this do you not understand?

A job is offer of certain pay for certain labor with a given working condition. Just as when you buy something you give no condideration to the NEEDS or WORHTINESS of the seller, neither does the employer consider the monetay NEEDS of the employee. Just as you want the best value, the best quality/cost rratio, so does an employer when PURCHASING labor.

Is that cold hearted? Not in my opinion, because an employer who does not think that way has a much higher chnage of failure due to mismanagement. A business failure might easily affect other employees, the local community and government revenue.

Socialists, liberals, whatever you want to call yourself claim to be for the greater good. Which good is greater, one employee or everyone else that a business failure affects?

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The guy makes burgers for a living. I don't care if he has been there for 50 years he still doesn't deserve to be paid a lot. Any asshole off the street can flip a burger at McDonalds or take your order. This guy does the job of a teenager and people think he should be paid a high wage.

The CEO on the other hand is responsible for over 30,000 stores and deserves to be paid high. He didn't just walk in and become a CEO, he has worked his way into that high of a position. Liberals are just idiots that think the guy making decisions for 30,000 stores and thousands of employees should be around the same pay as the guy asking if you want fries with that.
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The guy makes burgers for a living. I don't care if he has been there for 50 years he still doesn't deserve to be paid a lot. Any asshole off the street can flip a burger at McDonalds or take your order. This guy does the job of a teenager and people think he should be paid a high wage.

The CEO on the other hand is responsible for over 30,000 stores and deserves to be paid high. He didn't just walk in and become a CEO, he has worked his way into that high of a position. Liberals are just idiots that think the guy making decisions for 30,000 stores and thousands of employees should be around the same pay as the guy asking if you want fries with that.
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More to the point, what about the franchise owner?

The start up for a stand alnoe McDonalds is 1 to 2 million [link to mcdonaldsfranchisecost.com] and the average franchise net profit is 200,000 to 250,000 per year. That means the owner will work 8 to 20 years before seeing one penny of return. Even tho Joe Burgerflipper only gets $7.50 per hour, he gets it from day one.

I feel for the owner.

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That means that in 20 years time he has more than doubled his salary. That's a lot better percentage of increase than some government paid professionals. Not too bad. It's a shame he didn't try to expand his horizons a little more - but it is what it is.
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My bad, not quite doubled. But still - he's had some steady increases for pretty unskilled labor.
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From what I can see, it's pointless to tell that story on this website. I didn't know this place was like this until today. They will call him a N-word who feels entitled to higher wages and handouts. They will say he should go out and get a better job and stop complaining. Personally I know that this is wrong and should not happen in America, but it's not surprising to me at all. People and the companies that they run are hateful, greedy and self-interested.
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Well...I was working at a steel mill for a couple years making decent money. The recession hit in 2008, and I lost my job. I have 4 kids and a wife to care for.....I needed to do something. Couldnt stand the thought of sitting around on unemployment and not working. So I took a job wherever I could get one. That job happened to be at Walmart...making $9.00hr working 32 hours a week. Now like I said....I have a family to take care of....There was NO WAY IN HELL I was going to sit back and settle into this job...just couldnt afford it...It was'nt even enough to cover my basic expenses. Intead of sitting around at this job...I chose to aggresively look for something better...I knew I could do better...even though I didnt have a colledge education. So day in...Day out I was out there putting in applications...trying to desperatly find something better. Everyday I was falling further and further into debt. Finally...after a whole year of looking (and hell @ Wal-mart)...I landed a great paying job...$21.00hr..and alot of overtime...I went from making $13,000 a year...to making $55,000 a year....and rising. This guy has NO right to bitch about anything! If he is unhappy where he is at...he has the freedom to get out there and try to better himself...Instead of settling in at Mcdonalds...FOR 20 FUCKING YEARS!This guy deserves to make minimume wage...he is to lazy to go out and better himself...What does he expect..100K a year for flipping fucking burgers.
iamwith
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no, he just deserves a living wage. if mcdonald's or anyone else is operating in your country, they have an obligation to pay a decent wage to those workers of that country. why should mr burger flipper subsidize mickey's profit margin?
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Fast food places usually hire teenagers who don't need a living wage. This is a job to get experience and to have some money to save up for a car, clothes, college,etc. It is to supplement what their parents give them. It is not a job for an adult who needs to support a family.

And no one makes a person work for minimum wage. Everyone has a choice whether to stay or leave.
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From what I can see, it's pointless to tell that story on this website. I didn't know this place was like this until today. They will call him a N-word who feels entitled to higher wages and handouts. They will say he should go out and get a better job and stop complaining. Personally I know that this is wrong and should not happen in America, but it's not surprising to me at all. People and the companies that they run are hateful, greedy and self-interested.
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I was banned for bringing up how many racist undertones in post about black and hispanic people. You are on the wrong site man. They won't kick out a ton of childish ignorant members but civilized intelligent people like you and me the headweb master won't have it. Maybe you should post about how bad President Obama is and he is a terrorist supporter and is the cause of every single problem. You will be fine then otherwise you are wasting your time. I love good topics but hate ignorance. 5a
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From what I can see, it's pointless to tell that story on this website. I didn't know this place was like this until today. They will call him a N-word who feels entitled to higher wages and handouts. They will say he should go out and get a better job and stop complaining. Personally I know that this is wrong and should not happen in America, but it's not surprising to me at all. People and the companies that they run are hateful, greedy and self-interested.
 Quoting: Mg 29663307


Well...I was working at a steel mill for a couple years making decent money. The recession hit in 2008, and I lost my job. I have 4 kids and a wife to care for.....I needed to do something. Couldnt stand the thought of sitting around on unemployment and not working. So I took a job wherever I could get one. That job happened to be at Walmart...making $9.00hr working 32 hours a week. Now like I said....I have a family to take care of....There was NO WAY IN HELL I was going to sit back and settle into this job...just couldnt afford it...It was'nt even enough to cover my basic expenses. Intead of sitting around at this job...I chose to aggresively look for something better...I knew I could do better...even though I didnt have a colledge education. So day in...Day out I was out there putting in applications...trying to desperatly find something better. Everyday I was falling further and further into debt. Finally...after a whole year of looking (and hell @ Wal-mart)...I landed a great paying job...$21.00hr..and alot of overtime...I went from making $13,000 a year...to making $55,000 a year....and rising. This guy has NO right to bitch about anything! If he is unhappy where he is at...he has the freedom to get out there and try to better himself...Instead of settling in at Mcdonalds...FOR 20 FUCKING YEARS!This guy deserves to make minimume wage...he is to lazy to go out and better himself...What does he expect..100K a year for flipping fucking burgers.
iamwith
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do you even hear yourself? i highly doubt it. you just came here to toot your own horn. so what was this $21 an hour job without college? do they have those where he lives? ive always been looking for higher paying jobs without college and the highest ive ever seen is $15 unless its through a government job and you usually have to know somebody that knows somebody which is bs in the first place. ps your shit does stink
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From what I can see, it's pointless to tell that story on this website. I didn't know this place was like this until today. They will call him a N-word who feels entitled to higher wages and handouts. They will say he should go out and get a better job and stop complaining. Personally I know that this is wrong and should not happen in America, but it's not surprising to me at all. People and the companies that they run are hateful, greedy and self-interested.
 Quoting: Mg 29663307


I was banned for bringing up how many racist undertones in post about black and hispanic people. You are on the wrong site man. They won't kick out a ton of childish ignorant members but civilized intelligent people like you and me the headweb master won't have it. Maybe you should post about how bad President Obama is and he is a terrorist supporter and is the cause of every single problem. You will be fine then otherwise you are wasting your time. I love good topics but hate ignorance. 5a
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So this site is basically like Stormfront or something? I really had no idea, I thought this was some kind of New-Age kind of website. A lot of the topics you see discussed here are really interesting and cool to read about, but then when you look at the discussions, it's nothing but a bunch of backwards yokels for the most part. That's disappointing. Do you know of a site like this with real / normal people? That sucks that you got banned. I can't engage "people" like that who are completely nonsensical, it's too much of a waste of time.
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From what I can see, it's pointless to tell that story on this website. I didn't know this place was like this until today. They will call him a N-word who feels entitled to higher wages and handouts. They will say he should go out and get a better job and stop complaining. Personally I know that this is wrong and should not happen in America, but it's not surprising to me at all. People and the companies that they run are hateful, greedy and self-interested.
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I have an old car for sale, asking $4000 but it's real worth is more like $2000.

But I am on a fixed income and I really need the money to pay rent and get some groceries.

Would you pay my asking price or are you one of the people you spoke of in your post? Are you that selfish that you won't pay me an amount I can live on?

Or should I sell it to you for $1000 because you have worked at McDonalds for 20 years and still make minimum wage?
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No to all of this. I wouldn't buy a car, I don't need one. However, your comment has nothing to do with the article and isn't an analogy for the situation.
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From what I can see, it's pointless to tell that story on this website. I didn't know this place was like this until today. They will call him a N-word who feels entitled to higher wages and handouts. They will say he should go out and get a better job and stop complaining. Personally I know that this is wrong and should not happen in America, but it's not surprising to me at all. People and the companies that they run are hateful, greedy and self-interested.
 Quoting: Mg 29663307


You should hire him
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I'm not hiring, that doesn't make sense.
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Some people in this thread are saying that because this guy didn't move up or move on that he is stupid or lazy....

Try not to make assumptions here folks, just because you have a high standard of living doesn't mean they do.

Maybe mcdonalds is enough income and responsibility for this person.

How do you know he wasn't born into a household that was homeless? Maybe he grew up starving and bathing in the river.

So to them this is the best they have ever had it.

Maybe he has a heart condition/mental condition that doesn't allow for the stress involved with going to school at the same time as working or even being a manager for that matter.

Don't forget that people from another country would kill to come here and make 7.25$/hr just because your entitled ass won't do it doesn't mean someone else won't.

Which is exactly why all the jobs are going to mexico and china, you all think you are above it.
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There are 4 gas stations in a small town. One charges $.50 more per gallon but pays their clerks $3 per hour more than the others.

Where do you buy your gas?
 Quoting: Real list


The cheap one(s).

Government takes enough of my money to give away to others that I have no further need for voluntary charity to benefit people.
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Well well. Looks like we found the problem. Same reason people buy from Shitmart and other importers. They just want the cheapest crap available. And then they blame--SURPRISE--the fucking government?! Right. Whatever makes you feel better.
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From what I can see, it's pointless to tell that story on this website. I didn't know this place was like this until today. They will call him a N-word who feels entitled to higher wages and handouts. They will say he should go out and get a better job and stop complaining. Personally I know that this is wrong and should not happen in America, but it's not surprising to me at all. People and the companies that they run are hateful, greedy and self-interested.
 Quoting: Mg 29663307


I have an old car for sale, asking $4000 but it's real worth is more like $2000.

But I am on a fixed income and I really need the money to pay rent and get some groceries.

Would you pay my asking price or are you one of the people you spoke of in your post? Are you that selfish that you won't pay me an amount I can live on?

Or should I sell it to you for $1000 because you have worked at McDonalds for 20 years and still make minimum wage?
 Quoting: Real list


No to all of this. I wouldn't buy a car, I don't need one. However, your comment has nothing to do with the article and isn't an analogy for the situation.
 Quoting: Mg 29663307


You are being obtuse to say you don't need a car. Try to apply the analagy.

The point I am making, why should anyone receive more money based on need rather than worth? If his labor is worth more he shold change jobs. If it is not worth more, he has no gripe.

Isn't the thread about the unfairness of minimum wage and the fact that this guy has 20 years senority only ecaberates the unfainess.

You are a shallow thinker.

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