BELIEVE

Do come already.

Yes it is, and I'm kinda looking forward to the challenge, and also a bit nervous on what I'll be facing.

hurr durr da durr hurr

Fear not, (i hate when something starts like this) for blah blah super blah (spacing ...) . Now, (and this way reminds me of Seth Speaks) nothing is what it appears to be, is agreed ...). Lets be scientific, at least in part (prepositional phrase i believe ...), so we may come to a conclusion or hypothesis, putting point A and point B into an apex of sorts. (know it all...). (as a group we don't like certain aspects of the way another addresses us...a fucken given, if you will.(and here the use of the word, yeah that one, it is just a word, it creates in the mind of its reader or hearer, a symphony of thoughts and emotions, lets put those aside, and stay centered, is all...programming for what it is.)[try not to utilize this projection...energy constructs and all.]. .A 1st Amendment Right, be careful - literal aspects n all.

Time and Space by faith or fact?
Placement in it, by decision?
Treatments to others, restricting energies available to all?
Becoming non restrictive of self, treating others as you would be treated by them?

Group decisions or even individual knowledge, can change outcomes, can change the future experienced. (should maybe form that into a question?) Form and construct.

Jesus in a pair of tennis shoes. Words.

Give and ye shall or may receive, not retrieve. Energy passing amongst the participants. How does that make you feel. It does not matter how i feel, I Am that i am. To be or not to be, in the world, but not of the world.

Stasis, in a bubble, surrounded by other bubbles outside, are we the bubble, we have been looking for, and where do we want to Be?

Like taking a bite of the Apple was creating a world of Time. And the only way out, was through accidental force, at least for a moment (hypothesis), can we force our way out?

Scientific with the Church type speculations...

Just opening new conversation... in a way that leads into what we think. I hope. lol

Believe????

Create!!!!

God created man in His image. We the people are that image, in the making. A great experiment it was called. Ben Franklin had this chair he was looking at with the Sun emblem on it, at the edge of the earth. He said out loud, is this a Setting Sun, or a Rising sun? You be the judge, and here We are.

What do We want?

Jesus said many things, one was, that We shall do more than he later, what did he mean? Is something coming? A change in perspective of who We are?

Who are We?

And, no not by force, can it be done.

:revolving:

You misunderstand. I did not call you a tard ( which by the way is a term of endearment here in GLP) at all. I merely stated that one's choice to chose death is foolish in the eyes of your creator.

Your claim to take care of yourself is a choice of a Godless life. There is absolutely nothing you can do to gain eternal life with God on your own. If you think your good acts can do that, you are mislead. That path makes you think you are the god and create your inheritance by your own power of good acts. You are wasting your time with that. It's your creator who is the one with the power. You need to get on our knees and tell him that he not you is the all powerful one. He gave you life by the death of his son. It is that death that gets you to eternal life. Nothing you do or I do that could get us there. This is true. How loving is that?! All you have to do is say thank you, I believe!

Why pass up an eternal life of joy with your creator? Do you really just want this? Earthly stuffy stuff is good enough for you? Really??

Don't miss out. Really think about it. Really!
May God soften your heart to welcome his loving arms!

Does God exist?

So, here are some puzzling facts about life that create conflict with evolution, and I’m going to propose that the presupposition of God explains these facts better than any rival explanation:

The Cell: Evolution explains the transition between life forms. Evolution requires a cell that already has the built in capacity to reproduce itself. So how did we get a cell?

Constants in Nature: Evolution depends on constants being in place. Our existence here is dependent upon an exactly fine-tuned Universe.

Evil: Evolution cannot explain the depth of human evil. Evolution presumes cruelty and harshness, but it is out of necessity. So how do you explain this human evil that far exceeds necessity and reaches depths that are unfathomable?

Rationality: Evolution cannot account for rationality because evolution says we are programmed in the world to survive and reproduce. Our minds are organs of survival. They are not organs of truth. So if we believe in rationality we require something outside of evolution to account for that.

Morality: Evolution cannot account for morality -- from the little things to deeds of heroic greatness. Both the person who offers up his seat to an elderly woman to the person who throws himself on a grenade to save his buddies – both are operating outside the scope of evolution. In both cases there is no advantage to be gained. What is the evolutionary explanation for morality? There is none.

Art: We sing, dance, sculpt, cook, etc., etc. We encapsulate our emotions into these practices to create something of meaning that provides no evolutionary advantage. Why?

So, is there something out there that can provide the explanation? What about the God explanation? Why do we have a cell that shows the structure of complexity? Because the cell has been intelligently designed by an intelligent designer. Why does the universe show complexity? Same answer. Why is there rationality? Because those are characteristics of the designer. Why is the depth of human evil so deep? Because our lives are a drama in which good and evil are in constant struggle (the Christian story). Why is there morality in the world, or why do we all feel, even when it works against our advantage, a moral law within us? Because there is a moral lawgiver who gave it to us. Why do we pursue creative and artistic endeavors? Because we are created in the image of a creator.

When you put it all together, the presupposition of God resolves the errors. Suddenly the light comes on with respect to these mysteries I’ve listed above. It provides an explanation. Now, there may be a better explanation, but I have yet to hear one.

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About Jesus:

From [link to www.gotquestions.org]

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Question: "Did Jesus really exist? Is there any historical evidence of Jesus Christ?"

Considering that Jesus' ministry was largely confined to a relatively unimportant area in a small corner of the Roman Empire, a surprising amount of information about Jesus can be drawn from secular historical sources. Some of the more important historical evidences of Jesus include the following:

The first-century Roman Tacitus, who is considered one of the more accurate historians of the ancient world, mentioned superstitious “Christians” (from Christus, which is Latin for Christ), who suffered under Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius…

Flavius Josephus is the most famous Jewish historian. In his Antiquities he refers to James, “the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ.” .” There is a controversial verse (18:3) that says, “Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man. For he was one who wrought surprising feats....He was [the] Christ...he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him.” ...

Julius Africanus quotes the historian Thallus in a discussion of the darkness which followed the crucifixion of Christ (Extant Writings, 18).

Pliny the Younger, in Letters 10:96, recorded early Christian worship practices including the fact that Christians worshiped Jesus as God and were very ethical, and he includes a reference to the love feast and Lord’s Supper.

The Babylonian Talmud (Sanhedrin 43a) confirms Jesus' crucifixion on the eve of Passover and the accusations against Christ of practicing sorcery and encouraging Jewish apostasy.

Lucian of Samosata was a second-century Greek writer who admits that Jesus was worshiped by Christians, introduced new teachings, and was crucified for them. He said that Jesus' teachings included the brotherhood of believers, the importance of conversion, and the importance of denying other gods...

Mara Bar-Serapion confirms that Jesus was thought to be a wise and virtuous man, was considered by many to be the king of Israel, was put to death by the Jews, and lived on in the teachings of His followers.

Then we have all the Gnostic writings (The Gospel of Truth, The Apocryphon of John, The Gospel of Thomas, The Treatise on Resurrection, etc.) that all mention Jesus.

In fact, we can almost reconstruct the gospel just from early non-Christian sources: Jesus was called the Christ (Josephus), did “magic,” led Israel into new teachings, and was hanged on Passover for them (Babylonian Talmud) in Judea (Tacitus), but claimed to be God and would return (Eliezar), which his followers believed, worshipping Him as God (Pliny the Younger).

There is overwhelming evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ, both in secular and biblical history. Perhaps the greatest evidence that Jesus did exist is the fact that literally thousands of Christians in the first century A.D., including the twelve apostles, were willing to give their lives as martyrs for Jesus Christ. People will die for what they believe to be true, but no one will die for what they know to be a lie.

if you seek god you will be deceived.
Seek wisdom.

Wow Lisa I see the red Karma unhappy people hitting hard today , I love you and remember Mark 13:13
13 Everyone will hate you because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.

MATTHEW 11:6
And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.

not to woory about red karma.

People that throw you hatred show you that your being effective in what you are doing!

Shaterring counciousness! Some people refuse change out of Fear!

Doesn't matter, I get alot of red even tho I only give out green.

God sees everything, nothing is done in secret.

"Considering that Jesus' ministry was largely confined to a relatively unimportant area in a small corner of the Roman Empire"

I believe he was in many continents at the same time.

Only aspect known since Babel, each has their aspect history.

Time does not hinder the Church. (A somewhat simplified form of a; Maxim of Law.

nicely done

we belong

Heeeey OP I think you might like this.



Last Edited by Sneetch on 12/13/2012 01:09 PM

Hey Lisa :)

Thanks!

That is AWESOME :)

The only thing God expects is love and your actions to reflect that love. Worship comes natural after that...

Dear A.Coward,
I got the letter and yes i will make it better, did you not hear, I will wipe away their tears?
I see them starving in the streets, while those with plenty, eat their treats.
The problem is you wont repent, even though my message was sent.


My darling son ,I hear you load and clear,
I see them dying in the street, did you not hear, the deciever is here?
So i tell you once again, listen TO MY WORD, i sent my son for the world, a shining light, the truth was heard.
So repent and listen to my word,
i have a plan throughout the years.
For those who wont listen, will not be heard,
and those who believe, will shed no tears.

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