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ALIENS a.k.a The Jinn Race | Islamic Knowledge : Story of the Devil "Satan" - EPIC Video inside.

 
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There are genuine ETs both good and bad (Reptilian), and there are jinns, but they are not the same.
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you talk big. bring your proofs. book
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God created everything, and then left it to be, he does not interfere, he has given us to co-create using our thoughts.. He is our father, and as a father wishes his son to be better than what he is, thus God has wished that for us... When we reach the limits of the universe, we can create another by dreaming it into existence..

There is no Judgement "Day", the true translation in Arabic is "the time of Judgement", also Allah will not judge us, but we judge ourselves.. All this comes from what you believe, but some people including me, have had experiences where they KNOW that Allah loves everyone unconditionally. As for Jinns I dont know, they could be the aliens, but even the aliens were created by Mans thoughts.. Every thought we have, has an effect on the reset of the universe... and Shaitain, Iblis, call him what you will, was also a Man, maybe with fire in his soul, as he was (for whatever reason) disconnected from the Light of Allah...

The Quran is the only text never to have been altered since being revealed to Muhammad, but the true meaning of it, has been distorted ever since Muhammads time... we need to grasp the true Quraish arabic of Muhammads time to know what the Quran is saying... there are tribes however to this day that still use Quraish arabic...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 881502


The Quran was only text to never me changed, Yet they have a LAW in the Qu'ran "who ever changes the word of Qu'ran was to be killed" Which to me implies that the Qu'ran is not the true word of God. Why would God need man to protect the qu'ran.. This basicly says God does not control everything. God created everything he is the alpha and the omega which means he knows your whole life befor your even born and everything thats going to happen. So wouldnt u think he would put his words in the right persons hands with them having to kill Gods own Children to protect his word... this makes no sense brother.
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Ahhhh so what your saying is God is not in control all he done was creat everything and just sitting around watching everything unfold like a sports events cheering for the good side and hoping it works out?.. lol brother cant you see how this makes no sense. Give God a lil more credit then this... He is the Alpha and the Omega which is the begging and the end. and he knows everything in between. This is why The bible predictions allways come true... He knows you befor your even born, he knows what your going to pray for he knows about your whole life and everythought feeling and thing you do. In reality God right now allready knows your fate.. and when Its time for you to leave this earth he has the angel of death come scoop you up. What your saying imply that we decide when we are going to die..
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There are genuine ETs both good and bad (Reptilian), and there are jinns, but they are not the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4473716


you talk big. bring your proofs. book
 Quoting: Zeff


I got proof for you brother, Book of enoch, ancient sumaria "annunki" and this video right here




there was a war in heaven but it wasnt in the most high it was in the "universe layer of heaven 5th layer i believe"
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"The Jinn race is made of fire as a basis while we humans are made of clay and while angels are made of light."

Hmm that implies that there are Jin and angels? I thought good Jin where angels and Bad jin where demons? whats the difference between a angel and a good jin?

also if bad jin are made from fire and the good jin are angels... then they never really had a choice between good and evil...
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the difference between an angel and a good jin is exactly the same difference between an angel and a good human.

all jinns are made of fire, they are a race, the jinn race, good or bad jinn.

we are made of clay, the human race, good and bad humans.
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God created everything, and then left it to be, he does not interfere, he has given us to co-create using our thoughts.. He is our father, and as a father wishes his son to be better than what he is, thus God has wished that for us... When we reach the limits of the universe, we can create another by dreaming it into existence..

There is no Judgement "Day", the true translation in Arabic is "the time of Judgement", also Allah will not judge us, but we judge ourselves.. All this comes from what you believe, but some people including me, have had experiences where they KNOW that Allah loves everyone unconditionally. As for Jinns I dont know, they could be the aliens, but even the aliens were created by Mans thoughts.. Every thought we have, has an effect on the reset of the universe... and Shaitain, Iblis, call him what you will, was also a Man, maybe with fire in his soul, as he was (for whatever reason) disconnected from the Light of Allah...

The Quran is the only text never to have been altered since being revealed to Muhammad, but the true meaning of it, has been distorted ever since Muhammads time... we need to grasp the true Quraish arabic of Muhammads time to know what the Quran is saying... there are tribes however to this day that still use Quraish arabic...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 881502


The Quran was only text to never me changed, Yet they have a LAW in the Qu'ran "who ever changes the word of Qu'ran was to be killed" Which to me implies that the Qu'ran is not the true word of God. Why would God need man to protect the qu'ran.. This basicly says God does not control everything. God created everything he is the alpha and the omega which means he knows your whole life befor your even born and everything thats going to happen. So wouldnt u think he would put his words in the right persons hands with them having to kill Gods own Children to protect his word... this makes no sense brother.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 881502


Ahhhh so what your saying is God is not in control all he done was creat everything and just sitting around watching everything unfold like a sports events cheering for the good side and hoping it works out?.. lol brother cant you see how this makes no sense. Give God a lil more credit then this... He is the Alpha and the Omega which is the begging and the end. and he knows everything in between. This is why The bible predictions allways come true... He knows you befor your even born, he knows what your going to pray for he knows about your whole life and everythought feeling and thing you do. In reality God right now allready knows your fate.. and when Its time for you to leave this earth he has the angel of death come scoop you up. What your saying imply that we decide when we are going to die..
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Also you do not explain Lucifer, and from what i hear he is in control hell? i dont think so he fears Hell. Hell tortures him just like the rest of people he has no control over anything. notice how Islam gives evil allot of control in there teaching... God control evil to all they can do is tempt you brother
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There are genuine ETs both good and bad (Reptilian), and there are jinns, but they are not the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4473716


you talk big. bring your proofs. book
 Quoting: Zeff


I got proof for you brother, Book of enoch, ancient sumaria "annunki" and this video right here

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there was a war in heaven but it wasnt in the most high it was in the "universe layer of heaven 5th layer i believe"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5929355


if they call "ETs" reptilians, what tells you that the jinns arent reptilians ? even islam doesnt describe how look the jinns.

we only know that they have great superpowers since they live in higher dimension.

so i ask you again, what your reptilians cant do that jinns can do, or reverse.

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"The Jinn race is made of fire as a basis while we humans are made of clay and while angels are made of light."

Hmm that implies that there are Jin and angels? I thought good Jin where angels and Bad jin where demons? whats the difference between a angel and a good jin?

also if bad jin are made from fire and the good jin are angels... then they never really had a choice between good and evil...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5929355


the difference between an angel and a good jin is exactly the same difference between an angel and a good human.

all jinns are made of fire, they are a race, the jinn race, good or bad jinn.

we are made of clay, the human race, good and bad humans.
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I hear ya brother, i use to be a muslim myself then God woke me up to the truth. Truth is i never really studied much of the Bible or Really studied it. I mean it litrally takes a long long time and research for allot of people to truly understand the book. plus you got to know about Angles and Hell and Heaven and really put forth for it. but once i did it alllll made sense. Everything in history makes sense. See brother Aliens are real but they are not jin they are fallen angels. the demons you think are Jin are in fact dead fallen angels spirits, and there children. See You say Angels control the good jin and the bad jin, why control the good lol i mean look around there is not much good around. But i still never get a clear answer as to why the Qu'ran would want you to kill someone who changes the world of the qu'ran I do not ever think god would say kill his own children.. Then doesnt the qu'ran go and say never hurt a innocent life or you go to hell. So wouldnt a innoncent life be a person who is blind to the word of God? so if that person is blind to the word of God and for instance tries to change the qu'ran. wouldnt it be better to teach him the word and his errors then to kill him... also this who law implies God is not even in control of everything. Another thing i never liked was the whole "Fasting" how is it fasting when all your brothers and sisters do it and talk about it, and do it on a certain date. . . shouldnt you Fast for God all alone and never tell anyone.. not even your fellow brothers and sister. just keep it between you and God? it all seems to mechanical .. just like the way I use to pray.. 5 times a day not from the heart but on a time schedual.. i feel God would rather want you to pray from the heart then on a time schedule dont ya think? maybe you could clearify this stuff for me though and rekindle my faith in islam
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"and then you say all christians are clueless and ignorant..."

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you put words in my mouth, read again, i said "clueless ignorants among chritians"...it is not all christians, but read what you want.

How would Qu'ran explain these giants called niphilim?
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do you know how tall was the first human, Adam (as) ?
answer from Hadiths (Prophet of Islam (asws) speeches) : "Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall." which equals 90 feet or around 30 meters.

do you know how long lived prophet Noah (as) ?
answer from Quran : 1000-50 = 950 years.

well you shall find much answers at your questions here if you are curious [link to www.answering-christianity.com]
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"and then you say all christians are clueless and ignorant..."

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you put words in my mouth, read again, i said "clueless ignorants among chritians"...it is not all christians, but read what you want.

How would Qu'ran explain these giants called niphilim?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5929355


do you know how tall was the first human, Adam (as) ?
answer from Hadiths (Prophet of Islam (asws) speeches) : "Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall." which equals 90 feet or around 30 meters.

do you know how long lived prophet Noah (as) ?
answer from Quran : 1000-50 = 950 years.

well you shall find much answers at your questions here if you are curious [link to www.answering-christianity.com]
 Quoting: Zeff


Should check out all the giant niphilim skeleton found. they all died a violent death with holes in there heads and rib caged smashed in... notice the 1 giant was found with a giant handgun. see brother back then the giants where pure evil abominations to the lord. but even then these niphilim "children of the fallen angels" where allowed to roam the earth untill the end of time because it would not be fair to throw them into hell because they never truly had a choice to be here which is sad but blame the evil ones and the bible says they will pay 7 fold that of the evil people who choose to follow them.
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There are genuine ETs both good and bad (Reptilian), and there are jinns, but they are not the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4473716


you talk big. bring your proofs. book
 Quoting: Zeff


I got proof for you brother, Book of enoch, ancient sumaria "annunki" and this video right here




there was a war in heaven but it wasnt in the most high it was in the "universe layer of heaven 5th layer i believe"
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Hey check out this video brother
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There is no Judgement "Day", the true translation in Arabic is "the time of Judgement", also Allah will not judge us, but we judge ourselves.. All this comes from what you believe, but some people including me, have had experiences where they KNOW that Allah loves everyone unconditionally. As for Jinns I dont know, they could be the aliens, but even the aliens were created by Mans thoughts.. Every thought we have, has an effect on the reset of the universe... and Shaitain, Iblis, call him what you will, was also a Man, maybe with fire in his soul, as he was (for whatever reason) disconnected from the Light of Allah...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 881502


well hadith talk about a Judgement Day as a day that will last for 50.000 years of our years.

for the rest of what you say, well there is no foundation, you made your own opinion from here and there, cant be debated.

The Quran is the only text never to have been altered since being revealed to Muhammad, but the true meaning of it, has been distorted ever since Muhammads time... we need to grasp the true Quraish arabic of Muhammads time to know what the Quran is saying... there are tribes however to this day that still use Quraish arabic...
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the most important is easy to understand since God made it easy to understand.

only details and advanced knowledge was coded in methapors, parables etc etc.
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Umm yes we where ever here of the Book of Enoch? lol
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vatican doesnt recognize it as a part of Bible.

so you dont know what is true and what isnt in Book of Enoch...
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The Quran was only text to never me changed, Yet they have a LAW in the Qu'ran "who ever changes the word of Qu'ran was to be killed" Which to me implies that the Qu'ran is not the true word of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5929355

if you read the last verses of Bible Apocalypse of John , you shall find also promises of hell fire for those who change the text.

Why would God need man to protect the qu'ran.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5929355

He doesnt , He protects it Himself, this statement is made in the Quran.

This basicly says God does not control everything. God created everything he is the alpha and the omega which means he knows your whole life befor your even born and everything thats going to happen. So wouldnt u think he would put his words in the right persons hands with them having to kill Gods own Children to protect his word... this makes no sense brother.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5929355


who told you he appointed someone to protect His word. He only choose messengers to spread the word, not to protect it.
But if some people are found to modify a religious scripture coming from God, it's for personal interests, so he shall be put to death since he overwrites the Word of God and puts in God mouth words He never said.
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"and then you say all christians are clueless and ignorant..."

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you put words in my mouth, read again, i said "clueless ignorants among chritians"...it is not all christians, but read what you want.

How would Qu'ran explain these giants called niphilim?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5929355


do you know how tall was the first human, Adam (as) ?
answer from Hadiths (Prophet of Islam (asws) speeches) : "Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall." which equals 90 feet or around 30 meters.

do you know how long lived prophet Noah (as) ?
answer from Quran : 1000-50 = 950 years.

well you shall find much answers at your questions here if you are curious [link to www.answering-christianity.com]
 Quoting: Zeff


Should check out all the giant niphilim skeleton found. they all died a violent death with holes in there heads and rib caged smashed in... notice the 1 giant was found with a giant handgun. see brother back then the giants where pure evil abominations to the lord. but even then these niphilim "children of the fallen angels" where allowed to roam the earth untill the end of time because it would not be fair to throw them into hell because they never truly had a choice to be here which is sad but blame the evil ones and the bible says they will pay 7 fold that of the evil people who choose to follow them.
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Ment to tell you to that the fallen angels who fell from heaven because they wanted to be like God and rule the univese as mini gods. they where allowed to. This is why in geneses it says "and we made mankind is OUR own image" this is not the human race this is the cro-magnon race.
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Umm yes we where ever here of the Book of Enoch? lol
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vatican doesnt recognize it as a part of Bible.

so you dont know what is true and what isnt in Book of Enoch...
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The vatican is the Roman catholic's.. the pope and those people are evil brother. they have done nothing but kill christians and in fact did you they are the ones responsible for creating qu'ran you got to dig deep but do some more research.
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Also you do not explain Lucifer, and from what i hear he is in control hell? i dont think so he fears Hell. Hell tortures him just like the rest of people he has no control over anything. notice how Islam gives evil allot of control in there teaching... God control evil to all they can do is tempt you brother
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Lucifer is another name of Satan , he has countless names.

pagans told you that he is in control of hell.

if you knew about Islam , you would know that there is an angel called Malik (as) who was appointed as chief of Hell, and that 19 angels are in charge of Hell.

Satan controls nothing in Hell, he is there to be punished for eternity.

dont put your "i heard , blah" aside with facts of Islam.

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The Quran was only text to never me changed, Yet they have a LAW in the Qu'ran "who ever changes the word of Qu'ran was to be killed" Which to me implies that the Qu'ran is not the true word of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5929355

if you read the last verses of Bible Apocalypse of John , you shall find also promises of hell fire for those who change the text.

Why would God need man to protect the qu'ran.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5929355

He doesnt , He protects it Himself, this statement is made in the Quran.

This basicly says God does not control everything. God created everything he is the alpha and the omega which means he knows your whole life befor your even born and everything thats going to happen. So wouldnt u think he would put his words in the right persons hands with them having to kill Gods own Children to protect his word... this makes no sense brother.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5929355


who told you he appointed someone to protect His word. He only choose messengers to spread the word, not to protect it.
But if some people are found to modify a religious scripture coming from God, it's for personal interests, so he shall be put to death since he overwrites the Word of God and puts in God mouth words He never said.
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To think God would need man to protect his word is basicly saying God is not in control of Man..
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when God puts a stairway before you, it's your choice to climb it or not, you will be judged on J.Day for the choice you made to climb or not to climb.

this is called responsability. HE gives you the tools, it's up to you to use them or not.
 Quoting: Zeff

do you think, you can decide your fate by choice ?
 Quoting: icepack


if it wasnt the case, Judgement Day would be pointless.

judgement concerns a choice you did.

Angels are not judged on J.Day because they simply obey, they dont choose, thus they dont "fall".

Jinns are judged on J.Day because they do make choices in their life as we humans do.
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This prove tleast this part of your post Wrong. Angles will be judged

1 Corinthians 6:3
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
1 Corinthians 6:2-4 (in Context)
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I hear ya brother, i use to be a muslim myself then God woke me up to the truth.
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i rather think He cast you away from Truth, but it's only my pov. Maybe you were not ready or considered worthy of it.

But i still never get a clear answer as to why the Qu'ran would want you to kill someone who changes the world of the qu'ran
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5929355

already answered that question on this thread.

I do not ever think god would say kill his own children.. Then doesnt the qu'ran go and say never hurt a innocent life or you go to hell.

So wouldnt a innoncent life be a person who is blind to the word of God?
so if that person is blind to the word of God and for instance tries to change the qu'ran.
wouldnt it be better to teach him the word and his errors then to kill him...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5929355

innocent yes. read the word well : innocent.

changing the Word of God is like someone changing the words in your mouth , when you say "love" he claims you said "hate"...you get my point ? you never have the right to change to Word of God no matter what.

Another thing i never liked was the whole "Fasting" how is it fasting when all your brothers and sisters do it and talk about it, and do it on a certain date. . . shouldnt you Fast for God all alone and never tell anyone.. not even your fellow brothers and sister. just keep it between you and God? it all seems to mechanical
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5929355


fasting gives self discipline, keeps you close with those in need (homeless who are hungry), gives you a clear mind since your energy isnt used to digest, and gives you higher level of conciousness since your energy is used in worshiping God.

there are no bads in fasting, it's only your ego talking.

.. just like the way I use to pray.. 5 times a day not from the heart but on a time schedual.. i feel God would rather want you to pray from the heart then on a time schedule dont ya think? maybe you could clearify this stuff for me though and rekindle my faith in islam
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if you do it mechanically, it's because you feel like you owe nothing to God, that you dont need him at all not now not before and not in the future,

you feel like you owe Him nothing,not the food you eat , not your water you dring, not your awesome hot water of shower, not your sweet lovely bed, not your warm clothes, not your good health, not your home sweet home where you are protected from harsh weather, not not not not....

look at your past, you are in debt to God, you just dont look at your life, at yourself, at the others that ahve less than you and at what you have.

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did you they are the ones responsible for creating qu'ran you got to dig deep but do some more research.
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nonsense, i studied Quran enough to know that even if they were billions in vatican, they wouldnt be able to create something close to Quran.

you talk about it because you know nothing about Quran, you never read it and never studied it's architecture.
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To think God would need man to protect his word is basicly saying God is not in control of Man..
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yea it's blasphemy.
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God's prayer to Man

My Son, my own dear son
How long have i been waiting, i am still waiting
A minute holds a hundred years, a moment lasts millenia
I am waiting
I have given you all, the earth is all yours
you are free in everything you shall choose your own path
All that i ask, my son, my own dear son
is that you be happy
you do not see me
you do not hear me
in your mind are doubts and sorrows
you are turning away, where to?
you are yearning for something what for?
and you are bowing to someone
i stretch out my hands to you
my son, my own dear son
be happy, i ask of you
Again you are going away, but your road leads nowhere
on this road the earth will explode
you are free in everything and the world is exploding
and tearing your destiny apart
you are free in everything but i shall stand my ground
I shall restore you to life with the last blade of grass
and once more the world will shine around
Only be happy i ask
On the faces of saints a deep sorrow swells
you are frightened by judgement and hell
they telll you that I shall send judges
but only pray for that time as before
when you and i are together once more
i believe you will return
I know you will come
I shall embrace you once more
Not as a stepfather, not as a stepfather, I am yours
I am your Abba, your Father, the only One
and you are my very own son, my own dear son
we shall be happy together as one!
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if it wasnt the case, Judgement Day would be pointless.

judgement concerns a choice you did.

Angels are not judged on J.Day because they simply obey, they dont choose, thus they dont "fall".

Jinns are judged on J.Day because they do make choices in their life as we humans do.
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This prove tleast this part of your post Wrong. Angles will be judged

1 Corinthians 6:3
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
1 Corinthians 6:2-4 (in Context)
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it's "New Testament", it also says that Jesus (as) is God and Son of God, that he dead on the cross, that he "died" for humanity sins...etc etc etc

if you want to be serious come with something from Old Testament, it wasnt so horribly modified as the NT.

but feel free not to use logic. Pure beings (angels) have no reason at all to be judged, they were created to do the tasks command to them.
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God's prayer to Man
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source ? book

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i'm off sleeping

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Anastasia - Ringing Cedars of Russia...



God's prayer to Man
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source ? book

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i'm off sleeping
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Anastasia - Ringing Cedars of Russia...
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120% christian lolsign
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Re: ALIENS a.k.a The Jinn Race | Islamic Knowledge : Story of the Devil "Satan" - EPIC Video inside.
For educational purposes :
Know who they are, for this knowledge brings peace at heart and removes fear of the unknown.

In English language he is known as Satan or The Devil
In Arabic language he is known as Iblis or Shaytaan

Jinn in arabic means "Genie" in english language (as the genie in the cartoon "alladin")

-Satan is of the Jinn race, thus he is a jinn.
-The Jinn race was created before mankind and lived on Earth way before us, and still does nowadays.
-The Jinn race lives naturally in a Higher Dimension.
-The Jinn race has the ability to choose between good and evil as we humans do, thus some of them are good and some of them are bad, some of them are religious, some of them are pagans.
-The Jinn race will also be judged by God on Judgement day.
-The Jinn race is made of fire as a basis while we humans are made of clay and while angels are made of light.

-Angels are pure per nature and cannot do wrong or "fall" as like to say the clueless ignorants among christians.
-Angels have not the choice to do good or bad, they simply obey what God commands them.
-Angels protect us from the Jinn race by God command.
-Angels will not be judged on Judgemend day since they were created pure, remains pure not matter what and will always be.

"Allah" means "God" in arabic language the same way as "Dieu" means "God" in french language.
Muslims use the term "Allah" over the term "God" because the word "Allah" has no plural from whereas "God" can be written "Gods" and thus become blasphemy and paganism. This is the only reason why english speaking muslims uses "Allah" over "God".

This introduction and clarifications having been done, here is the story of this race that was created before us, the story of Satan, know how he turned from the best worshiper of Jinn race to the worst of them and became the enemy of humanity.

Very enjoyable video (hollywood blockbuster like)



or watch here [link to www.cinetonic.com]

share, comment, and ask questions if you have, i'll answer if i can hf
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coololol
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are all geniuses influenced by jinns ?
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depends if we talk about the naturally gifted or the deal/trade with Satan.

-Naturally gifted at birth comes from God.
-Gifted during life can come from God on special conditions (prayer answered or something like that)

However, Gifted can also come from Satan through a deal.
The usual deal he makes consists in worshiping him (diverse ugly/ungodly rituals) and reject God in exchange of Great Succes in this life.
The Beatles and other music groups (music industry is only a little example of the deals) that got huge succes from nowhere fits this profile since themselves are satanists in their manner/words/behavior.

are all technologies and advancements gifts of the jinns ?
 Quoting: icepack


No.
It can come from God through the prophets and messengers (exemple prophet David (as) could fabricate Mail armour [link to en.wikipedia.org] after God told him how to)

It can come from Jinn race technology through deals talked above.
It can come from Jinn race accidentally (crashes and so).

However in the 20th century, Antichrist (Al Massih Ad Dajjal = The False Messiah) agenda and powers given by God allow him to give inspiration to scientists to discover new technologies. That's what explain the exponential growth of human technology last century.

That said, you didnt seem ta have watched the video.
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The Jinn have there own interests as well you know...and if you happen to fit into their puzzel, they will push you along in the direction they need you to go...I am a perfect example. Recently, I got some information...heavy, heavy stuff...and I used it. We shall see if it works out or not...but it came from them. It was about Obama...not a secret about him per se...but rather something else...about other people and their work releasing it.

But you know...we'll see.
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I'll tell you something else that I know...The US government denies that a second intelligent race cohabits the Earth with humans...they say the Jinn are an "unknown alien race".
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The Jinn have there own interests as well you know...
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indeed tounge

and if you happen to fit into their puzzel, they will push you along in the direction they need you to go...
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they will enter in contact with you ONLY if God wants it.
I mean, God command angels to protect EACH human being against Jinn race.
No jinn will ever enter in contact with a human without having the authorization of God,
the angels protecting you wont let the jinn enter in contact with you without a positive command from God.

thus, it is not only the jinn agenda you fit, but also God agenda, and that detail is very important, nothing happens in the Heavens and on Earth without the authrization/permission of God, absolutly nothing.


I am a perfect example. Recently, I got some information...heavy, heavy stuff...and I used it. We shall see if it works out or not...but it came from them. It was about Obama...not a secret about him per se...but rather something else...about other people and their work releasing it.

But you know...we'll see.
 Quoting: Ehm 11630422


in which manner did they enter in contact with you ?
feel free to share what they "told" you, you shall have witnesses lolsign

Islam teaches that much jinns (the bad ones) are Great liers and the info they provide are mostly disinfo/bullshit since they have no more knowledge of the future than us humans, they do it to have your favors and incite you to rely on them, thus turning your back on God. It is most cases them who enter in contact with humans.

i dont see for which reason a good jinn would come to you and share some heavy info, are you someone special or ? lolsign

then you have to see if you are a religious man or not, jinn doesnt just "enter" in contact without you fitting their "target"
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