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Message Subject Google starts censoring porn in image searches
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We don't "allow" or "disallow" private corporations to do anything, they do what they want to do. And you know this issue goes WAY beyond "seeing a boob or two" don't try to paint a picture of porn as something innocuous and normal, it's not.
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Well if we don't protect our freedoms to search for the things we want to without them telling us we cannot, we WILL lose them. Do you want us to become like China? Cause steps like this among others starts us down that road........don't think it can't happen.

You missed my point entirely. The whole reason people are so fucked up in the head about sex is that because it is this HUGE taboo as you grow up, don't talk about it, don't think about it, and whatever you do don't act on it. That messes with our minds.

Sex is a natural thing, and the hormones we feel growing up, the desires we have are natural, normal, there is not a thing wrong with them. But when you teach a child the opposite, for one, you BEG for rebellion as they are gonna want the things you tell them not to anyway, which hurts both them because they are flying without a net and your relationship to them, because they won't talk to you about these things as you won't have their trust, and two, they will not be equipped to handle themselves not being taught how to safely.

They're GONNA be exposed to these things, be it tame or not so tame things. If it's not the internet it will be somewhere else. Do you want them to be ready to handle it when they come up and be able to talk to you about it, or would you rather they just hide it away from you and go off on their own creating all sorts of problems for themselves? Because the more you demonize all of this, the more you ask for all the problems you see with kids. From teen pregnancies to abortions, to STD's, it is a direct result of lack of parenting and education about sexuality. Telling them no just does not work.
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In my experience growing up and now as a parent, are that the kids who were and have become "messed up" are those who were exposed to sexuality at too early an age. I saw this with my own peer group, and now with my kids peer group. Kids who are in an unrestricted environment where they are exposed to "adult topics" at a young age end up getting into all kids of troubles with rampant promiscuity and substance problems. It's too much too soon.

What is seen cannot be unseen.
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Maybe not, BUT.....is this the fault of the culture or the parents for not being there to process things for them? I contend it's the latter. I WAS never told much about sex beyond it was dirty and wrong, sinful to lust and all of that, and it really fucked up my head because all the while I had these urges and desires, and places to explore them even that I felt I couldn't but still couldn't resist from acting out on. It was only when I realized I was NORMAL and was free to act or not based on what I wanted that I became more comfortable in my sexual nature and not so ashamed of it anymore. But for YEARS I had so much guilt and shame over it all. If I was a betting man, I'd bet at least some of your peer kids had similar experiences. I could be wrong, but it's just a hunch.

We cannot shield kids from the world, they will be exposed to it whether we want them to or not. What we need to do is be there to help them deal with what they are exposed to when it happens, and many I don't believe do. We spend more time trying to keep them from seeing things, than we do about educating them on how to handle them if they come up. It does them a disservice IMO.
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I'm sorry your parents were messed up.. mine weren't but I was also protected from dangerous things. The world is a much different place now.. you no longer have to go out of your way to be exposed to dangerous materials. I think the results are evident in our society today. Perverts everywhere. But we don't need to place the "rights" of adult pervs at a higher valuation than the rights of children to grow up in a safe and relatively clean environment.

I mean.. why not just expose them to gory disembowelments and beheadings too, at 5 years old, just "explain" to them what's going on? No, it doesn't work that way. Children are very impressionable (and so are adults actually) and the mind is easily warped, especially when young. They don't have the same cognitive abilities. They need to be protected.

It's like.. here's a twinkie and a plate of broccoli side by side. First eat this twinkie, then I'm going to explain to you why that wasn't a good idea.. now eat this broccoli to counteract the effect. No, the damage is already done.
 
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