What is wrong with communism can someone tell me , or help me out

I quit my job last week

taking some needed time off

I guess I will not pay for a months worth or so for that welfare check

They say every worker pays for about 2 people on welfare..


Maybe they will have to hold off buying that big screen tv

for xmas....

But yet you say you love communism... Do you understand that it does not get better the more control you give to a central government?

That's why shit in America is going down hill. The government has been moving further towards central control more than ever before. There are so many regulations on business and a tax that will make you go broke. We spend more money per person than the average income per household.

You call this free market capitalism? It's not...

Someone rules them all, and absolute power corrupts absolutely

how about each to their own with no government

an example, we pay trillions of taxes to the government some of which goes to homeland security/FEMA and all they have done is squadouche in emergencies, so we have a concert and raise more money, or have the Red Cross fundraise, and still there is no power to the poor folks in New York or New Orleans or wherever Gaia hits us next.

it is great in ideology and not possible in practice

What a joker! You answered your own question!

"If everyone eats"....under Communism, EVERYONE STARVES!

Some of the worst starvations in history have occured as a result of starvation. During the early 1920's, over 6,000,000 Ukrainians died of starvation - manny turned to cannibalism. The rule in Ukraine was, if you had been a Communist in 1917, you were allowed to eat a little. If you had nto been so, you had to hand all your food over to the authorities and go away and starve to death. Any resistence resulted in you being shot.

In 1980's, millions dead in Ethiopia of starvation as a result of hard line Commie policies.

Zimbabawe used to be the "bread basket of Africa", producing enough food to feed most of South African states. In term of landscapes, it closely ressembles the mid-west of the US but more productive with better soil. Today, it's agricultural sector produces only a fraction of what it needs to feed its population

Under the "Great Leap Forward" of Chairman Mao in China, when the mass implementation of Communism was made, hundreds of millions died, one estimate puts it at 1 in 5 of the population died of starvation.

In 1945, the Red Army was in occupation of Vienna. Much of the popluation starved as the soldiers looted every store to send it home to the starving people of Joe Stalin's Russia.

Why can't Communism feed tis people? Simple. If you are paid the same for working hard as someone who sneaks off to snooze all day, sleeping in a hay rick and stealing anything he can get hsi hands on, and can't be sacked for it, you too would end up, snoozing in the bushes and not lifting a finger, particularly when you have had to spend all night, walking around the town, bribing black marketeers for the end of a loaf to eat for your family.

Heh you cunt , im now 36 and ive worked my fucking ass off since the age of 13 , the problem is when your a very straight guy , you dont go no where in this system because it is satanic , you have to become corrupt or suck dicks and bow to make it , so if you like that sort of stuff then fine

thank mugabe for that ...

Apparently, you forgot about

National Socialist German Workers' Party

no eastern european opinion so far. let me be the first(romanian)
in order to have comumism you have to have a totalitarium system. that's very very bad.
progress in comunism is very very low as everything is conducted by the party, many times by idiots with connections. elena ceausescu, although she had only 4 years of school, was the one conducting universities, science etc etc.
in romania, until the begining of 80's things were relatively ok, we didin't have a large amount of products that we could buy but the basic were there.
we had just on tv station, only one summer vacation place where we could go.

is this why you come to the uk and shit in your back garden and spit at people and rob etc .... and claim every benefit you can , are you embracing freedom so to say

Excuses, Excuses, Excuses. In other words what your saying is...you're to lazy to TRY.

Wont be any religion where theres communism, everyones supposed to be equal..no private businesses either.

And thats the end of this thread.

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dude you ranting at the wrong people.
don't you have police there? don't you have authorities there to do something about it?
i live in a city of 150000 people and we have aroud 5-10 beggers in the entire city, becuase our police does something about them ( they are easy targets for them).
if you scotalnd yard can't deal with beggers it's not my fault, not even the beggers fault.
I am really disapointed to see this attitude from british, 10 years ago your ruled the world but no you can't rule even you island.

Ask yourself what's wrong with slavery?

also is this thread about immigrants or about comunism? i just wanted to say don't wish for comunism.

Communism is a political system. Socialism is an economic system where everyone is supplied with the things they need. Us Americans have always been shown soviet and chinese style socialism because they aren't worth a flip. This doesn't mean socialism can't work. Capitalism isn't inherently better or worse.

It's really all about the quality and intent of those running the show. Well operated socialism is going to be better than poorly run capitalism, and vice versa. As for which is theoretically ideal we have no examples of pure capitalism today, and the few examples of pure socialism were poorly ran and have been failures.

The same goes with political systems. Democracy and republicanism aren't automatically superior to other forms of government. A wise and just dictator is preferable to an ignorant democracy. A wise democracy is better than a tyrant. In ancient times it was believed that the ideal government would be one ran by a wise and just philosopher king.

Because it takes more people in charge and enforcing the system than people doing the work, so theres no way to make money without corruption.

communism has failed everywhere it has been tried. it only leads to suffering, death and destruction. go do your research and then come back here. there are plenty of sources of info on the effects of communism on the net. if that dont work go talk to ne old timers who witnessed it first hand.

Thread: Creed of The Self-Employed

If communism is where everyone can sit at home watching tv on their big screen tv or take a drive at 11 am in the morning

instead of work your ass off supporting someone else who gets a welfare check on your working your ass off ....

well, I am all for it...

That would be a resource based economy that you want. An economy that tries to eliminate work, not make work for everyone.

For example, money creates 1/3 of the jobs in the US. Be it bank employees, ATM technicians, brokers, insurance salesmen, whatever. Another example is manufacturing where the product is made poorly and must be replaced much, much sooner than need be.

We could reduce the need for labor by half just by getting rid of money and cheap products. That would cut the work load to less than 20 hours a week if we include all those currently unemployed.

Because:

"Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

It sounds like a 'utopia', but once everyone is under the finger of one system, then you are only free to believe and live as that system dictates. At first it will seem nice, but as time goes along, you will find that your individualism and freedoms to 'choose' will not be there. History has documented communist societies and the majority of them have been oppressive and cruel. And while evil still remains in even a minuscule portion, that evil will always corrupt even the most wonderful society, given time.

Look at the most powerful and seemingly perfect empires in history...they still fell.

that my fried is your new capitalism , please everyone an take over ragardless of who does what ...

Understand that under socialism / communism, the goal is not to improve your situation at all. The equality does not come by boosting your living conditions, equality comes by reducing everyone elses living conditions to equal yours. The amount that is lost from the latter group is redistributed to the ruling class and their closest supporters.

In a free / capitalistic society, there is no ruling class to force you to stay in your current situation.

The question here is WHY are you starving? What is stopping you from planting a seed, getting a second job, an education are almost anything which would help you succeed?

But, if everyone is on welfare, then it isn't 'someone' else who is paying for it...you are then a slave to the master who is and that will be your government. If you're okay with living and pleasing a governmental entity, then you are indeed a slave/serf and no longer require the right to choose how your life is lived. You will deserve whatever it produces and asks from you. I don't think it will be pretty because then there is no one who will be servicing them and they'll put every single one of your pathetic butts to some enslaved, boring and toiling job so that they can have what they need to live the high life.

Either I'm really old or there are many young people on this post. As a kid I read George Orwell's Animal Farm. It pretty well summed up communism for me. And the value of capitalism. NOTHING is perfect. EVERYTHING requires effort

In short, it thwarts incentive and ambition, two of the greatest motivators. In my opinion, it's anathema to human nature.

There is power in numbers

I was just kidding really

but I am tired of working my ass off for some lazy slob on welfare.

system has to change