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What is wrong with communism can someone tell me , or help me out

 
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... Anybody who bothers to look can see that there is no superior economic model as of yet...
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WRONG!
The OLD American (1800..1900) Capitalism WAS PERFECT.
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Socialism is much better. Communism is more about rule. Why the hell would you want to be ruled over in such a fashion? Look at the Chinese. They have no voice. They are routinely executed (that's why they have a low prison population).

I'd live under Hugo Chavez any day over this phoney cronyistic farcical land of capitalistic pig shit.

Weak people loved to be ruled over OP. Fair minded people want to see all people having equal access to the basics and greedy people want money for control and a force of slave labor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19490298


you are not to live "under" any government. you are to have government for only certain things you are to live by your sweat and your good mind with others that do the same. that means if you play good music people buy it. if you bake good cakes so the same.. we are all small business men/women
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What is wrong with communism can someone tell me , or help me out
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Consider yourself helped.

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Re: What is wrong with communism can someone tell me , or help me out
... Anybody who bothers to look can see that there is no superior economic model as of yet...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29856998

WRONG!
The OLD American (1800..1900) Capitalism WAS PERFECT.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25701329


Now you're dreaming. Population growth was strong, but we see it can not continue. So how do we mimick the exponential growth in demand that was seen during that century that marked the beginning of the industrial revolution?

What about the sweat shops, extreme employee abuse, and the barons who monopolized industry and who became the first fabulously rich Americans?

What about the fact that we are now depleting the resources that sustain us at maximum speed?
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12/14/2012 10:29 AM
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The Bloody History of Communism



(part 2 of 14 parts)

Part one requires some type of registration which I never went through.

Damned good and informative video series.
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why do you have to work two jobs to have food shelter and clothing? While your working 40 jobs who is taking care of your children? Its not your wife shes working 40 jobs too. Capitalism is so family friendly is it?
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... Anybody who bothers to look can see that there is no superior economic model as of yet...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29856998


... Population growth was strong, but we see it can not continue. So how do we mimic the exponential growth in demand that was seen during that century that marked the beginning of the industrial revolution?

What about the sweat shops, extreme employee abuse, and the barons who monopolized industry and who became the first fabulously rich Americans?

What about the fact that we are now depleting the resources that sustain us at maximum speed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25701329


1. communism (collectivism) or capitalism ARE NOT economic systems! Just two methods to redistribute the wealt


2. any good economic system should be able to deal with Population Growth without cutting on human rights (see China); What you experience now in USA is a military-socialism ; The OLD USA Capitalism can handle 7bil don't worry.

3. In a sound economic system, you don't have to mimic anything! It will self-regulate itself IF you will let it..

4. depleting the resources - and THIS is where the true capitalism would have scored the most ! (but watch that video first!)
ONLY that economic system (capitalism) rewarded INNOVATION ; That's why now we have ELECTRICITY, transportation, telecommunications etc
and since they fucked that system by implanting your FED, IRS, CIA and dropped the gold standard, America is no longer INNOVATING therefore NO FREE ENERGY (to deal with the overpopulation), NO space travels, no TERRA-FORMING MARS, nothing!

The best economic system is the one who rewards best the innovation.

I know socialism... (remember Ceausescu?)
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money is the problem. Without money we would all be rich!
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12/14/2012 12:06 PM
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I mean iff everyone earn's the same wage , everyone eat's , strict law's are put in place and just one head of state like russia , what is wrong with this ...

im white and poor and ive nothing to lose from losing capitalism , were hungry , were living by the penny each day , were cold and poor , capitalism has done nothing for me

Infact i despise it , it has allowed gay marriage , gays to adopt , sodomy is rife , pedophiles are released on tag , human rights are bullshit , flooded us with immigration cos they care little of nationalism and pride , they only care for money ..

so in a sense capitalism only help's the rich , what white america need's to do , is just stop working , go on strike , so does white uk , just stop NOW !! enough is enough capitalism isnt working what so ever ...

am i right !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1959930

The problem is that you are already living under SOCIALISM, not Capitalism! That is why you are miserable!
So you want to increase your misery by living under Communism?
How foolish you are. You deserve what ever you get.
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12/14/2012 12:28 PM
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communism, capitalism, call it what you want, its all Monetarism and as long as it is we are never going to feel well except the few at the top. this could be a solution, sounds most reasonable to me by far. [link to www.thevenusproject.com]
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Re: What is wrong with communism can someone tell me , or help me out
communism, capitalism, call it what you want, its all Monetarism and as long as it is we are never going to feel well except the few at the top. this could be a solution, sounds most reasonable to me by far. [link to www.thevenusproject.com]
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resource based economy is the way
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why do you have to work two jobs to have food shelter and clothing? While your working 40 jobs who is taking care of your children? Its not your wife shes working 40 jobs too. Capitalism is so family friendly is it?
 Quoting: joeblack61


It was until all the urban animals started breeding in overdrive now you have to work "40 jobs" to help pay for urban tribes.
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Re: What is wrong with communism can someone tell me , or help me out
communism, capitalism, call it what you want, its all Monetarism and as long as it is we are never going to feel well except the few at the top. this could be a solution, sounds most reasonable to me by far. [link to www.thevenusproject.com]
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resource based economy is the way
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10301194


Naaah, that Venus shit is just a re-branded communism (and it smells bolshevik too)

Only two rules for a perfect economic system:

Rule 1. Gold & Silver currency (= what's in your pocket has an intrinsic value anywhere on the planet)

Rule 2. NO TAXATION (aka no income tax, no VAT, NO PROPERTY TAXES; and no taxes on the profit made by companies; The government should be allowed to tax only what the state financed and made like roads, airports, etc + a support-the-Army&Police-tax)

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Economic fairness should apply to everyone that wants to apply themselves. Our problem is corrupt Capitalism, not Captalism in its truest form.
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Economic fairness should apply to everyone that wants to apply themselves. Our problem is corrupt Capitalism, not Captalism in its truest form.
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This!
When you do things right people won't be sure you've done anything at all
s. d. butler

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Re: What is wrong with communism can someone tell me , or help me out
communism, capitalism, call it what you want, its all Monetarism and as long as it is we are never going to feel well except the few at the top. this could be a solution, sounds most reasonable to me by far. [link to www.thevenusproject.com]
 Quoting: informer 10301194


resource based economy is the way
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10301194


Naaah, that Venus shit is just a re-branded communism (and it smells bolshevik too)

Only two rules for a perfect economic system:

Rule 1. Gold & Silver currency (= what's in your pocket has an intrinsic value anywhere on the planet)

Rule 2. NO TAXATION (aka no income tax, no VAT, NO PROPERTY TAXES; and no taxes on the profit made by companies; The government should be allowed to tax only what the state financed and made like roads, airports, etc + a support-the-Army&Police-tax)


 Quoting: vanity 25701329


Long as gubmint can't change the rules eventually by stealth,lies or corruption this is a good starting point.
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Re: What is wrong with communism can someone tell me , or help me out
Communists will take everything away from you including your God-given individual rights. And, if you complain about it, they'll arrest you and kill you for the greater good.
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12/15/2012 07:48 AM
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Communism may even forbid people from owning their houses.
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12/15/2012 08:11 AM
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Main problem with communism is those who have stuff don't want to share with those who don't. Note that early Christian communities and most Native American tribes were communist.
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Re: What is wrong with communism can someone tell me , or help me out
miners and cops ...
both 'species' are working 8h/day
but they all get the same salary.

How many miners will continue to
work in this system? (if they are truly free lo leave...)
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Main problem with communism is those who have stuff don't want to share with those who don't. Note that early Christian communities and most Native American tribes were communist.
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No . Most native tribes weren't communist. There was always someone who had more horses. Early Christian communities who tried communism all failed.

Now if you mean mutual cooperation,that is a different story. People cooperate today but not because they are forced to.

It is VOLUNTARY for a specific purpose.
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Have you ever noticed when communism is implemented there are mass killings?

100+ million in the 20th century alone.

That's just one thing that's wrong with communism.

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 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist


3 billion murdered since Jesus appeared world wide
s. d. butler

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Have you ever noticed when communism is implemented there are mass killings?

100+ million in the 20th century alone.

That's just one thing that's wrong with communism.

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 Quoting: Conspiracy Theorist


3 billion murdered since Jesus appeared world wide
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and so this justifies the 200+million murdered by their own communist governments?

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