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Psychiatry goes insane! Every human emotion now classified as a mental disorder in new psychiatric manual DSM-5

 
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According to them I think I have ODD (Oppositional Defiant Disorder), you can see it in my avatar. I wonder if I could get a medical marijuana prescription for that?!?!?
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my daughter has ODD
one day she will be president.
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If she's got it, I'll vote for her...
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I agree with them being a mental disorder
Think about this...
The mind when is calm and in peace is able to create a certain situation or an approach to one in a more logic way which leads to a good result
now
add emotions, this calm and peaceful mind becomes clouded, a dense fog that feeds a thought and/or reaction.
then you're fucked, gg, im high...
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I'll say it again, do you REALLY want THEM telling you what a disorder is? Or do you want to be able to control that on your own? Simple question.
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If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

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According to them I think I have ODD (Oppositional Defiant Disorder), you can see it in my avatar. I wonder if I could get a medical marijuana prescription for that?!?!?
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Come to Oregon....they'll give you one.
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Well, they are right in a way, in that anything besides a calm mind totally clear of thoughts is an unstable state of mind which leads to suffering through want or lack of want, and thus is undesirable. However, medicine is not really the answer for everything.
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Thoughts do not equal an unstable mind.
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If you are not your true self, then is your mind truly stable?

Anyone who is not enlightened is not truly him/herself, and enlightenment is really a state of mind. Hence, if you are not enlightened, then your mind is not in its perfect state, and therefore can never really be absolutely stable.

Psychiatric medicine is not really the answer though (except in some cases), because they simply numb the symptom without curing the disease. Just my $0.02
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I am embarrassed for my profession. I am a family doc.

I have seen some truly messed up people. Had a guy 2 weeks ago tell me he was hearing voices (but only in his right ear). He told me "last night, 2 demon angles came down and ripped my wings off....and it still hurts in my back". He is known to me as a bipolar person....I think he had a manic episode with psychotic features.

But this new DSM is just messed up. There are folks who truly do have mental health issues....and then there are folks who are just responding appropriately to their environment
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Well, they are right in a way, in that anything besides a calm mind totally clear of thoughts is an unstable state of mind which leads to suffering through want or lack of want, and thus is undesirable. However, medicine is not really the answer for everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13326139


Thoughts do not equal an unstable mind.
 Quoting: Nika


If you are not your true self, then is your mind truly stable?

Anyone who is not enlightened is not truly him/herself, and enlightenment is really a state of mind. Hence, if you are not enlightened, then your mind is not in its perfect state, and therefore can never really be absolutely stable.

Psychiatric medicine is not really the answer though (except in some cases), because they simply numb the symptom without curing the disease. Just my $0.02
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13326139


How would emotions hinder a human from spiritual awakening?
By your reasoning, only a robotic like mind can become enlightened.
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A slippy slope down mandatory medication. This is not going to work but they would like it to. You check yourself in and given only two options when you leave.

Go to prison or take your Meds!
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When my mother died very unexpectedly, I was extremely grief-stricken. I wanted to be with her. I wasn't quite suicidal, but I wanted the world to end so I could be with her. I made the mistake of going to talk to my doctor and getting a referral to a grief therapist. Now, my permanent medical record says I suffer from depression. Because I was sad my mother died when I was 28 years old, I'm now clinically depressed according to them. God forbid I went to see a psychiatrist. They would have a field day with me. Sadness over a death, anxiety over finances... watch out! I'm a PSYCHO MESS!
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From the esteemed science which brought us drapetomania (a supposed mental illness described by American physician Samuel A. Cartwright in 1851 that caused black slaves to flee captivity.)

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Don't listen to their psycho-babble. The majority of people can handle their own humanly emotions without the need for treatment & meds. Nature intended it that way. Emotions serve a purpose. Don't trust these psychopaths.

I've only gone to a psychologist/psychiatrist twice: once to get a job (part of the screening process) & several years later to go back to work after a 3 month leave involving a very difficult grieving period.

I really question the type of people that go into that field. It seems that many of the people that do have deep-seated problems themselves & are attracted to the field to solve their own problems.

In the screening to get the job the psychiatrist left the room & said he'd be right back. While he was gone his phone rang. When he came back in he said, "I heard my phone ringing. Why didn't you answer it?"

I was already irritated & fed up with him so I said, "Answer your own damn phone! I'm not your employee or slave!" He didn't answer & just wrote something in his notes. At another point in the interview he asked me a very bizarre question to which I responded, "That's a stupid question & I'm not even going to grace it with an answer."

I wrote off the job & was really surprised when I learned I had passed and did get the job! Go figure!

The second time I had to go to one to return to the job didn't go much better. His first question was, "Did you feel any sadness when he died?" WTH??? His next statement was, "No one is worth what you put yourself through." My answer: "You wouldn't be but he was!"

The people in this field are so out of reality themselves. They should not have the power over people that they do! I'm usually not such a rude person but both of these psychopaths had me raging!

Stay away from psychiatrists/psychologists! They are crazy! I'll never go again even if it means my job.
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this is all about money.

If psychiatrists can classify you are officially in need of treatment, they can get reimbursed for treating you, it's a big medicare and social security scam. All old people go mentally bonkers, it's called 'senility', they all get depressed.
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this is all about money.

If psychiatrists can classify you are officially in need of treatment, they can get reimbursed for treating you, it's a big medicare and social security scam. All old people go mentally bonkers, it's called 'senility', they all get depressed.
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Yes, and what's sad is that so many old folks are in homes instead of being taken in by their families. They are like sitting ducks.

Many are just depressed because they feel purposeless & not needed. That & all the drugs that their M.D.s have them on already and they fact they are less active..

It seemed when old people were cared for by their families instead of being shipped off to a home they remained more active helping around the house & felt more purpose. They weathered growing old better.
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and all this medication is making us an obese society too! Then they go and get after us for that! Yet, they prescribed the medication that made us fat!! Can't win.
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It gets worse and worse every day...especially when every political section you fall in to is a mental illness.

That means what ever you register under Dem or what ever you have been tagged labeled one effected brain or another.

And we do so deliciously love to target what we tagged.

The nobody is the best for anybody in this day and time.

even your states are color coded this mentality or that mentality.

Might as well take a branding iron and sear their foreheads.

Or wring the mind out of them and refill it the preferred one.

Wringing can be excruciating when it is applied in a non physical way.
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I just realized what this really leads too, if normal emotion get's labelled as "unnormal" we'll be soon living in equilibrium
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Emotion is beautiful. Even depression.

Its quite a ride.

But euphoric mania is just as good :O
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According to them I think I have ODD (Oppositional Defiant Disorder), you can see it in my avatar. I wonder if I could get a medical marijuana prescription for that?!?!?
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Come to Oregon....they'll give you one.
 Quoting: Nika


Ha! I'm orignally from Oregon! Miss it!!
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I wonder how many of these disorders will now be eligible for Social Security Disability?
It is amazing the list of things they say make you disabled. Meanwhile my husband, who was recently diagnosed with a fatal, debilitating disease has been waiting since August to hear from Social Security and I am pretty sure was denied.
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Check out that link and see if his disabilty falls under one of those definitions. I work with applications a lot and the ones that get denied is when the SSA figures the person is still able to work. I can't quote or say exactly how they figure it out because the decsion is made by their panel. Goiod luck.



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- Also appeal their descion and state why he is not able to work, don't give up.
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Fruit also has weird jokes inbetween and i think its sand spreading but its so dumb that nobody may join there take off stealing with someone elses there idea + getting rid of those also ?

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Mlmlh and fuck you
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Is all about zionist social engineering. If you are not acting like a zionist sheep they jew psychiatrists will fix it.
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[link to allpsych.com]


Example from DSM online :




Psychiatric Disorders


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Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD)



Category


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Anxiety Disorders



Etiology


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Often anxiety gets generalized to other situations, and can then become overwhelming or associated with life in general. Typically GAD develops over a period of time and may not be noticed until it is significant enough to cause problems with functioning.



Symptoms


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As its name implies, GAD is evidenced by general feelings of anxiety such as mild heart palpitations, dizziness, and excessive worry. The symptoms are difficult to control for the individual and are not related to a specific event (such as in PTSD) and are not as severe as those found with Panic Disorder.
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I just realized what this really leads too, if normal emotion get's labelled as "unnormal" we'll be soon living in equilibrium
 Quoting: Itchy Who?


What do you mean? Like through pressuring to become emotionally vacant/neutral we will collectively become more uniform, with less extremes/variability in emotional expression/experience? If so, a loss of variability=decreased adaptability of the population?
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I just realized what this really leads too, if normal emotion get's labelled as "unnormal" we'll be soon living in equilibrium
 Quoting: Itchy Who?


What do you mean? Like through pressuring to become emotionally vacant/neutral we will collectively become more uniform, with less extremes/variability in emotional expression/experience? If so, a loss of variability=decreased adaptability of the population?
 Quoting: Parabola


Well, I wouldn't describe it that "complicated". If we sacrifice our emotions and our individual identities for the sake of the "hive", we are already dead. If I had to choose whether humanity should choose that way or simply go distinct, I would choose distinction. Why live in peace if we have lost the ability to enjoy the peace?
Reverend Lovejoy: Y'ever sat down and read this thing? Technically we're not supposed to go to the bathroom.

"I am Jack's medulla oblongata, without me Jack could not regulate his heart rate, blood pressure or breathing!"

"Laugh and the world laughs with you. Cry and you cry alone”

"The flutes of the chi will sound again, my friend."

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I just realized what this really leads too, if normal emotion get's labelled as "unnormal" we'll be soon living in equilibrium
 Quoting: Itchy Who?


What do you mean? Like through pressuring to become emotionally vacant/neutral we will collectively become more uniform, with less extremes/variability in emotional expression/experience? If so, a loss of variability=decreased adaptability of the population?
 Quoting: Parabola


Well, I wouldn't describe it that "complicated". If we sacrifice our emotions and our individual identities for the sake of the "hive", we are already dead. If I had to choose whether humanity should choose that way or simply go distinct, I would choose distinction. Why live in peace if we have lost the ability to enjoy the peace?
 Quoting: Itchy Who?


ah..'equilibrium' within the individual (due to pressures that promote conformity). Emotions and passion facilitate the expression and enrichment of our unique perspectives. I agree that there is so much more to be gained (within and between individuals) when we embrace our differences, emotions, the uniqueness of our perspectives, and choose to embrace the authentic beauty of ourselves (and others).
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Wow! This really is insane!

Sad? Not normal.
Happy? Not normal.
Excited? Not normal.
Something has you worried or scared? Not normal.
Stressful times? Not normal.
A little leary of your government? Then you definately are mental and should seek psychiatric help asap!

In their eyes, Feelings = mental disorder......you are not normal and need medication!
Like the article from Natural News says....
According to psychiatry, the only way to be normal is to be an emotionless zombie!
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The only thing that is normal is zombie shopping.....SHOP TIL YOU DROP...bitches.
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I just realized what this really leads too, if normal emotion get's labelled as "unnormal" we'll be soon living in equilibrium
 Quoting: Itchy Who?


What do you mean? Like through pressuring to become emotionally vacant/neutral we will collectively become more uniform, with less extremes/variability in emotional expression/experience? If so, a loss of variability=decreased adaptability of the population?
 Quoting: Parabola


Well, I wouldn't describe it that "complicated". If we sacrifice our emotions and our individual identities for the sake of the "hive", we are already dead. If I had to choose whether humanity should choose that way or simply go distinct, I would choose distinction. Why live in peace if we have lost the ability to enjoy the peace?
 Quoting: Itchy Who?


ah..'equilibrium' within the individual (due to pressures that promote conformity). Emotions and passion facilitate the expression and enrichment of our unique perspectives. I agree that there is so much more to be gained (within and between individuals) when we embrace our differences, emotions, the uniqueness of our perspectives, and choose to embrace the authentic beauty of ourselves (and others).
 Quoting: Parabola


I love your way of explaining, I was talking about the movie "equilibrium" but, I think, you brought it to the point very well hf
Reverend Lovejoy: Y'ever sat down and read this thing? Technically we're not supposed to go to the bathroom.

"I am Jack's medulla oblongata, without me Jack could not regulate his heart rate, blood pressure or breathing!"

"Laugh and the world laughs with you. Cry and you cry alone”

"The flutes of the chi will sound again, my friend."

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I love your way of explaining, I was talking about the movie "equilibrium" but, I think, you brought it to the point very well hf
 Quoting: Itchy Who?


Ha! I hadn't heard of that movie, but just checked out the synopsis and trailer, and am going to watch it tonight.
Thanks for the great reference! hf



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