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People are paid what they are worth...some just aren't worth shit...anyone can push a broom...if you want to make more money then go learn a skill...
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Welcome to a Brief ran hospital unhygienic and disease ridden. Everyone has worth when it comes to running a society that is respectful and civilized. Welcome to the downfall of America. You just daint get it mate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29784162


On the contrary, knowing how to run a business as I do, I would know the going rate for all my employees and offer the most qualified more money for their skills...that way I have the best people in their fields working for me and blow the competition out of the water...just like I do in all my current businesses...now what socialist idiot?
 Quoting: BRIEF


But that ain't what you have been spewing on this thread and it ain't what is happening.

Good people are working for slave wages.

Reality bites and thanks for the red!
 Quoting: Madame X


It's exactly what I've been saying!

I pay people what they are worth, so if I want the best in the field I pay them more...so if a janitor makes 20K on average, I will pay a bit more than that for a superior one with experience and in the top of his field...it's called competition and it works...offering top salary to the stoner that halfass cleans is not who I want, let the stoner work for the loser company down the road.


I didn't give you red, until now.
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People are paid what they are worth...some just aren't worth shit...anyone can push a broom...if you want to make more money then go learn a skill...
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BULL SHIT
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THIS^^^^^^
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Surely we live in the end of days:

the uncaring, haughty snub ery

The lord warns against those who think too highly of themselves and their station in life.
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Now you are just making yourself look crazy.

To whom and what are you talking about.
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AC was talking to you heartless PAYTARDS.

Duh!!!
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People are paid what they are worth...some just aren't worth shit...anyone can push a broom...if you want to make more money then go learn a skill...
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BULL SHIT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


THIS^^^^^^
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So you're an unskilled worker too, or are you just unemployed?
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People are paid what they are worth...some just aren't worth shit...anyone can push a broom...if you want to make more money then go learn a skill...
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While that's kinda true, but you're missing the point. You know as well as I do that they have just as many over-paid staff as they do under. The same could be said for the CEOs and other board members..they aren't really worth that kinda money.


Regardless, the problem is the fact that people continue to work there and don't go somewhere else.

As long as people fill those positions, they aren't going to change anything. People have to set an example and not work there instead of just bitching about it.

If the position was made unattractive, they would increase the wage until it garners attraction...simple as that.
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Welcome to a Brief ran hospital unhygienic and disease ridden. Everyone has worth when it comes to running a society that is respectful and civilized. Welcome to the downfall of America. You just daint get it mate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29784162


On the contrary, knowing how to run a business as I do, I would know the going rate for all my employees and offer the most qualified more money for their skills...that way I have the best people in their fields working for me and blow the competition out of the water...just like I do in all my current businesses...now what socialist idiot?
 Quoting: BRIEF


But that ain't what you have been spewing on this thread and it ain't what is happening.

Good people are working for slave wages.

Reality bites and thanks for the red!
 Quoting: Madame X


It's exactly what I've been saying!

I pay people what they are worth, so if I want the best in the field I pay them more...so if a janitor makes 20K on average, I will pay a bit more than that for a superior one with experience and in the top of his field...it's called competition and it works...offering top salary to the stoner that halfass cleans is not who I want, let the stoner work for the loser company down the road.


I didn't give you red, until now.
 Quoting: BRIEF


So what you are saying is that they are WRONG not to pay their employees a living wage.

I almost fell off my chair when I read that, or am I misinterpreting what you are saying.

You certainly can't tell me that every worker in that hospital is a slacker, stoner worker. Many of them would fall into your category of workers worth paying more to.

I wouldn't be where I am today without much hard work, but I see others working just as hard, just no opportunities to better themselves.

Lady luck and nepotism plays a huge part in who makes it and who doesn't in this world.

Skill and education are only a small fraction of the equation.

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People are paid what they are worth...some just aren't worth shit...anyone can push a broom...if you want to make more money then go learn a skill...
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Brief, normally I agree with you, even with your bluntness.....but keep in mind a LOT of hospital workers, a majority ....are already in school, trying to work their way up. So its not quite fair to make that statement.
 Quoting: Jervis and V-Honey


Very true, and even the skilled employees are S.O.L. when it comes to highly trained nurses taking care of way too many patients when recent studies prove that any RN taking care of more than 4 patients is risking the lives of each additional patient she/he cares for by 30%!!! Death and serious infection rates are higher the more patients nurses have.

Most hospitals do not account for this and do not care. They need the Jag- the multi million dollar homes etc. I am working on my masters now so I can grow older without breaking my back and winding up disabled because of a lack of co-workers and support. I'm getting too old to be working the way they expect us too for 12 hours, no lunch breaks etc.

I also just had to move on because healthcare is getting bad, and I don't want to be a part of it anymore. I will say I was blessed with decent nurses for the most part during my several hospital admissions this past yr after a car crash.

Regardless, no matter where you are, it will benefit you greatly to have someone with you who can watch your back for you while you can't during your hospital stay. My husband was the best, and made sure I was always safe.

Preparedness isn't just food, guns and ammo, but in education!! Know your body, know your local hospitals how many patients nurses care for on telemetry units, med/surg, ICU etc. if you are to have an elective surgery. Have people wash their hands before touching you, know what medicines you are being given. If you can't have someone with you who can ask these questions.

rant
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They know it is unsafe.

They just take away the license and the livelihood and say:

NEXT poor slave


They think nothing of it
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People are paid what they are worth...some just aren't worth shit...anyone can push a broom...if you want to make more money then go learn a skill...
 Quoting: BRIEF


While that's kinda true, but you're missing the point. You know as well as I do that they have just as many over-paid staff as they do under. The same could be said for the CEOs and other board members..they aren't really worth that kinda money.


Regardless, the problem is the fact that people continue to work there and don't go somewhere else.

As long as people fill those positions, they aren't going to change anything. People have to set an example and not work there instead of just bitching about it.

If the position was made unattractive, they would increase the wage until it garners attraction...simple as that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302733


That's the point...I guarantee those who are unsatisfied with their pay have looked around and were not offered any more money because they are at the top of their pay scale already, therefore if they want to EARN more money then they need to offer something over their competition, like learning or improving on a skill.
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Instead of paying a decent wage so that their employees can eat and support their families,this hospital has asked their employees to donate canned good donations for the lower paid staff.Tell me this aint fucked up.Read this...you'll be amazed

[link to www.pghcitypaper.com]
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Ever think they don't have the money themselves?

How dumb are you? wtf
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On the contrary, knowing how to run a business as I do, I would know the going rate for all my employees and offer the most qualified more money for their skills...that way I have the best people in their fields working for me and blow the competition out of the water...just like I do in all my current businesses...now what socialist idiot?
 Quoting: BRIEF


But that ain't what you have been spewing on this thread and it ain't what is happening.

Good people are working for slave wages.

Reality bites and thanks for the red!
 Quoting: Madame X


It's exactly what I've been saying!

I pay people what they are worth, so if I want the best in the field I pay them more...so if a janitor makes 20K on average, I will pay a bit more than that for a superior one with experience and in the top of his field...it's called competition and it works...offering top salary to the stoner that halfass cleans is not who I want, let the stoner work for the loser company down the road.


I didn't give you red, until now.
 Quoting: BRIEF


So what you are saying is that they are WRONG not to pay their employees a living wage.

I almost fell off my chair when I read that, or am I misinterpreting what you are saying.

You certainly can't tell me that every worker in that hospital is a slacker, stoner worker. Many of them would fall into your category of workers worth paying more to.

I wouldn't be where I am today without much hard work, but I see others working just as hard, just no opportunities to better themselves.
 Quoting: Madame X


You still don't understand because you have a socialist mindset, which is natural for a woman.

Those people are being paid what they are worth in their chosen field of work...why would they work there for less if they could earn more with another company?

If you don't like what you make then go to another company that is willing to give you more because you bring a skill to that company that they need.

If you have nothing more to offer that makes you more money then you are at the top of your pay scale for your particular set of skills...so then what?
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People are paid what they are worth...some just aren't worth shit...anyone can push a broom...if you want to make more money then go learn a skill...
 Quoting: BRIEF


While that's kinda true, but you're missing the point. You know as well as I do that they have just as many over-paid staff as they do under. The same could be said for the CEOs and other board members..they aren't really worth that kinda money.


Regardless, the problem is the fact that people continue to work there and don't go somewhere else.

As long as people fill those positions, they aren't going to change anything. People have to set an example and not work there instead of just bitching about it.

If the position was made unattractive, they would increase the wage until it garners attraction...simple as that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302733


That's the point...I guarantee those who are unsatisfied with their pay have looked around and were not offered any more money because they are at the top of their pay scale already, therefore if they want to EARN more money then they need to offer something over their competition, like learning or improving on a skill.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Quite possible. I think the biggest problem is people nowadays try to live above and beyond their means.

They get themselves a 15k-20k salary job and then purchase the highest priced house a loan officer will give them. They purchase the highest priced car they can qualify for or they think they need two of them.

They have all kinds of 'unnecessary' features on their cell phone, cable and internet bills.

In other words, they try to live like kings and bitch when they can't.

I know this isn't everyone of them. But, I've seen enough people like this to know it's really common.

If you get paid cheap...you gotta live cheap..if you screw up..there's little room for error, and you're gonna be going to a food bank or whatever to make up the difference.
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People are paid what they are worth...some just aren't worth shit...anyone can push a broom...if you want to make more money then go learn a skill...
 Quoting: BRIEF


While that's kinda true, but you're missing the point. You know as well as I do that they have just as many over-paid staff as they do under. The same could be said for the CEOs and other board members..they aren't really worth that kinda money.


Regardless, the problem is the fact that people continue to work there and don't go somewhere else.

As long as people fill those positions, they aren't going to change anything. People have to set an example and not work there instead of just bitching about it.

If the position was made unattractive, they would increase the wage until it garners attraction...simple as that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302733


That's the point...I guarantee those who are unsatisfied with their pay have looked around and were not offered any more money because they are at the top of their pay scale already, therefore if they want to EARN more money then they need to offer something over their competition, like learning or improving on a skill.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Quite possible. I think the biggest problem is people nowadays try to live above and beyond their means.

They get themselves a 15k-20k salary job and then purchase the highest priced house a loan officer will give them. They purchase the highest priced car they can qualify for or they think they need two of them.

They have all kinds of 'unnecessary' features on their cell phone, cable and internet bills.

In other words, they try to live like kings and bitch when they can't.

I know this isn't everyone of them. But, I've seen enough people like this to know it's really common.

If you get paid cheap...you gotta live cheap..if you screw up..there's little room for error, and you're gonna be going to a food bank or whatever to make up the difference.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302733


I'm a financial counselor, and you are exactly right...the problem in most cases is not low pay, it's overspending and borrowing...
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But that ain't what you have been spewing on this thread and it ain't what is happening.

Good people are working for slave wages.

Reality bites and thanks for the red!
 Quoting: Madame X


,
It's exactly what I've been saying!

I pay people what they are worth, so if I want the best in the field I pay them more...so if a janitor makes 20K on average, I will pay a bit more than that for a superior one with experience and in the top of his field...it's called competition and it works...offering top salary to the stoner that halfass cleans is not who I want, let the stoner work for the loser company down the road.


I didn't give you red, until now.
 Quoting: BRIEF


So what you are saying is that they are WRONG not to pay their employees a living wage.

I almost fell off my chair when I read that, or am I misinterpreting what you are saying.

You certainly can't tell me that every worker in that hospital is a slacker, stoner worker. Many of them would fall into your category of workers worth paying more to.

I wouldn't be where I am today without much hard work, but I see others working just as hard, just no opportunities to better themselves.
 Quoting: Madame X


You still don't understand because you have a socialist mindset, which is natural for a woman.

Those people are being paid what they are worth in their chosen field of work...why would they work there for less if they could earn more with another company?

If you don't like what you make then go to another company that is willing to give you more because you bring a skill to that company that they need.

If you have nothing more to offer that makes you more money then you are at the top of your pay scale for your particular set of skills...so then what?
 Quoting: BRIEF


I get what you are saying, but if they are not paying any of the skilled workers enough to live, then it is time for the workers to band together to force a trickle down effect of wages.

This is the premise of why and how unions were formed.

If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

It has nothing to do with being a woman.
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People are paid what they are worth...some just aren't worth shit...anyone can push a broom...if you want to make more money then go learn a skill...
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BULL SHIT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


THIS^^^^^^
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So you're an unskilled worker too, or are you just unemployed?
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No...I have my own business and am employed. Unlike you, I see another side of life with intelligent and hard working people, who through no fault of their own, have been humbled into taking lower paying jobs to make ends meet. Mostly seniors... and I am quite sure they work twice as hard as you on any given day. You think you're something special...but you're not. You've failed miserably at being a real human with no heart or compassion for anyone but yourself. I hope one day...due to your puffed up gloating...you lose it all and have to work beside them at Mc Donald's to make a living.
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communism 101
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In communism, true communism - the staff would own the hospital.
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In true communism the doctors would get the same wage as the cleaners and struggle with a second job to make enough money too survive.

communism is a horrible way too live,if you dont beleive me take a trip too cuba

in communist cuba you get free house,free healthcrae,free education,subsidized food,that sounds like an ok deal when you see it the way im puting it too you and its true,but everything else your brain could imagine you not allowed too do without state aproval.

America is getting communism for the masses and elite godly living for the 1%.

Dont agree with what they have for you then they will kill you.
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It's exactly what I've been saying!

I pay people what they are worth, so if I want the best in the field I pay them more...so if a janitor makes 20K on average, I will pay a bit more than that for a superior one with experience and in the top of his field...it's called competition and it works...offering top salary to the stoner that halfass cleans is not who I want, let the stoner work for the loser company down the road.


I didn't give you red, until now.
 Quoting: BRIEF


So what you are saying is that they are WRONG not to pay their employees a living wage.

I almost fell off my chair when I read that, or am I misinterpreting what you are saying.

You certainly can't tell me that every worker in that hospital is a slacker, stoner worker. Many of them would fall into your category of workers worth paying more to.

I wouldn't be where I am today without much hard work, but I see others working just as hard, just no opportunities to better themselves.
 Quoting: Madame X


You still don't understand because you have a socialist mindset, which is natural for a woman.

Those people are being paid what they are worth in their chosen field of work...why would they work there for less if they could earn more with another company?

If you don't like what you make then go to another company that is willing to give you more because you bring a skill to that company that they need.

If you have nothing more to offer that makes you more money then you are at the top of your pay scale for your particular set of skills...so then what?
 Quoting: BRIEF


I get what you are saying, but if they are not paying any of the skilled workers enough to live, then it is time for the workers to band together to force a trickle down effect of wages.

This is the premise of why and how unions were formed.

If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

It has nothing to do with being a woman.
 Quoting: Madame X


Unions bankrupt companies...if the government stays out of the way and let the market work then the skilled workers make more and the unskilled have motivation to improve...
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BULL SHIT
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THIS^^^^^^
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29612777


So you're an unskilled worker too, or are you just unemployed?
 Quoting: BRIEF


No...I have my own business and am employed. Unlike you, I see another side of life with intelligent and hard working people, who through no fault of their own, have been humbled into taking lower paying jobs to make ends meet. Mostly seniors... and I am quite sure they work twice as hard as you on any given day. You think you're something special...but you're not. You've failed miserably at being a real human with no heart or compassion for anyone but yourself. I hope one day...due to your puffed up gloating...you lose it all and have to work beside them at Mc Donald's to make a living.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29612777


If you believe in karma, I don't, you just earned a bunch for wishing ill on another person, enjoy.
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While that's kinda true, but you're missing the point. You know as well as I do that they have just as many over-paid staff as they do under. The same could be said for the CEOs and other board members..they aren't really worth that kinda money.


Regardless, the problem is the fact that people continue to work there and don't go somewhere else.

As long as people fill those positions, they aren't going to change anything. People have to set an example and not work there instead of just bitching about it.

If the position was made unattractive, they would increase the wage until it garners attraction...simple as that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302733


That's the point...I guarantee those who are unsatisfied with their pay have looked around and were not offered any more money because they are at the top of their pay scale already, therefore if they want to EARN more money then they need to offer something over their competition, like learning or improving on a skill.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Quite possible. I think the biggest problem is people nowadays try to live above and beyond their means.

They get themselves a 15k-20k salary job and then purchase the highest priced house a loan officer will give them. They purchase the highest priced car they can qualify for or they think they need two of them.

They have all kinds of 'unnecessary' features on their cell phone, cable and internet bills.

In other words, they try to live like kings and bitch when they can't.

I know this isn't everyone of them. But, I've seen enough people like this to know it's really common.

If you get paid cheap...you gotta live cheap..if you screw up..there's little room for error, and you're gonna be going to a food bank or whatever to make up the difference.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302733


I'm a financial counselor, and you are exactly right...the problem in most cases is not low pay, it's overspending and borrowing...
 Quoting: BRIEF

Why do they borrow?

Because they don't make enough to buy it out right

or they need those extra groceries and don't get another check for a while

You are reading someone who has been on both ends of the wealth spectrum.

I have made minimum wage and make 90,000 a year

You can't lump all into a generalized formula either

Just because a person is considered poor does not mean they don't have the ability to learn wise money tasking

William Buffet was poor at one time by the standards of this world
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Brief...you're a joke. If anyone has bad karma barreling down fast on them....it's you sweetheart. All the mindless, hateful crap you spew out towards people on GLP daily? It's YOU who better hope there's no such thing as karma.
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That's the point...I guarantee those who are unsatisfied with their pay have looked around and were not offered any more money because they are at the top of their pay scale already, therefore if they want to EARN more money then they need to offer something over their competition, like learning or improving on a skill.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Quite possible. I think the biggest problem is people nowadays try to live above and beyond their means.

They get themselves a 15k-20k salary job and then purchase the highest priced house a loan officer will give them. They purchase the highest priced car they can qualify for or they think they need two of them.

They have all kinds of 'unnecessary' features on their cell phone, cable and internet bills.

In other words, they try to live like kings and bitch when they can't.

I know this isn't everyone of them. But, I've seen enough people like this to know it's really common.

If you get paid cheap...you gotta live cheap..if you screw up..there's little room for error, and you're gonna be going to a food bank or whatever to make up the difference.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302733


I'm a financial counselor, and you are exactly right...the problem in most cases is not low pay, it's overspending and borrowing...
 Quoting: BRIEF

Why do they borrow?

Because they don't make enough to buy it out right

or they need those extra groceries and don't get another check for a while

You are reading someone who has been on both ends of the wealth spectrum.

I have made minimum wage and make 90,000 a year

You can't lump all into a generalized formula either

Just because a person is considered poor does not mean they don't have the ability to learn wise money tasking

William Buffet was poor at one time by the standards of this world
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


I have to generalize because going case by case would take forever and be a breech of confidentiality...do all black people steal?

I have to go with generalizations then...

Most people borrow money because they are selfish...they justify it with reasons for needing it, whatever "it" is...a new car, a house...we just had a kid now we need a new van...

I don't know who William Buffet is, but Warren started with $100 and invested wisely, didn't do poor people things with money like buy lotto tickets, and made himself a multibillionaire...now he feels guilty in his old age and has turned liberal :(

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So what you are saying is that they are WRONG not to pay their employees a living wage.

I almost fell off my chair when I read that, or am I misinterpreting what you are saying.

You certainly can't tell me that every worker in that hospital is a slacker, stoner worker. Many of them would fall into your category of workers worth paying more to.

I wouldn't be where I am today without much hard work, but I see others working just as hard, just no opportunities to better themselves.
 Quoting: Madame X


You still don't understand because you have a socialist mindset, which is natural for a woman.

Those people are being paid what they are worth in their chosen field of work...why would they work there for less if they could earn more with another company?

If you don't like what you make then go to another company that is willing to give you more because you bring a skill to that company that they need.

If you have nothing more to offer that makes you more money then you are at the top of your pay scale for your particular set of skills...so then what?
 Quoting: BRIEF


I get what you are saying, but if they are not paying any of the skilled workers enough to live, then it is time for the workers to band together to force a trickle down effect of wages.

This is the premise of why and how unions were formed.

If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

It has nothing to do with being a woman.
 Quoting: Madame X


Unions bankrupt companies...if the government stays out of the way and let the market work then the skilled workers make more and the unskilled have motivation to improve...
 Quoting: BRIEF


He speaks the truth...

The opponents of this would see it the same way if they owned a company with a moderate staff. Just imagine, you worked hard and focused throughout high-school while a lot of the kids around you slacked...you got a low-paying job and bought yourself a used car, put all your money into fixing it and keeping it running while, you worked your way through college eating nothing but pasta noodles 5 nights a week.

You finally graduate college and set out on building the dream you had since you were a teenager of a company. You first get a job with your degree to get some solid startup money going and work hard through a job you don't want to do --saving all of your money -- again only living off the bare essentials. People all around you buying and spending on stuff..you can't go nowhere..you can't buy anything because you need to get where you want to go.

You have enough money to put down on a loan...you get yourself a nice building in the city to begin your company. You start making a name for yourself..working long hours..all alone. Finally, you can hire one employee...then two..then three..and it begins to grow into a respectable corporation.

After a few years of solid growth..all those people that were slacking around you start to look at you as a greedy bastard.

Your employees think you are a scrooge and don't do enough for them. They form a union and begin setting rules that start to squeeze all of your funds from the inside out and you begin to bleed and start loosing your profits.

You can't purchase your equipment, pay your licensing fees, can't afford repairs..

Customers start noticing that the quality of your products is decreaseing...you lose further money...the union still demands more pay..more benefits..

and you have to default....


All of your work for your entire life..is gone..and all the slackers around you cheer..and say "You deserved it."
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Brief...you're a joke. If anyone has bad karma barreling down fast on them....it's you sweetheart. All the mindless, hateful crap you spew out towards people on GLP daily? It's YOU who better hope there's no such thing as karma.
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Noted, thanks for judging...Buddha or whoever you get your karma bullshit from has jotted it down in his book and will check it twice, thanks for playing.
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You still don't understand because you have a socialist mindset, which is natural for a woman.

Those people are being paid what they are worth in their chosen field of work...why would they work there for less if they could earn more with another company?

If you don't like what you make then go to another company that is willing to give you more because you bring a skill to that company that they need.

If you have nothing more to offer that makes you more money then you are at the top of your pay scale for your particular set of skills...so then what?
 Quoting: BRIEF


I get what you are saying, but if they are not paying any of the skilled workers enough to live, then it is time for the workers to band together to force a trickle down effect of wages.

This is the premise of why and how unions were formed.

If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

It has nothing to do with being a woman.
 Quoting: Madame X


Unions bankrupt companies...if the government stays out of the way and let the market work then the skilled workers make more and the unskilled have motivation to improve...
 Quoting: BRIEF


He speaks the truth...

The opponents of this would see it the same way if they owned a company with a moderate staff. Just imagine, you worked hard and focused throughout high-school while a lot of the kids around you slacked...you got a low-paying job and bought yourself a used car, put all your money into fixing it and keeping it running while, you worked your way through college eating nothing but pasta noodles 5 nights a week.

You finally graduate college and set out on building the dream you had since you were a teenager of a company. You first get a job with your degree to get some solid startup money going and work hard through a job you don't want to do --saving all of your money -- again only living off the bare essentials. People all around you buying and spending on stuff..you can't go nowhere..you can't buy anything because you need to get where you want to go.

You have enough money to put down on a loan...you get yourself a nice building in the city to begin your company. You start making a name for yourself..working long hours..all alone. Finally, you can hire one employee...then two..then three..and it begins to grow into a respectable corporation.

After a few years of solid growth..all those people that were slacking around you start to look at you as a greedy bastard.

Your employees think you are a scrooge and don't do enough for them. They form a union and begin setting rules that start to squeeze all of your funds from the inside out and you begin to bleed and start loosing your profits.

You can't purchase your equipment, pay your licensing fees, can't afford repairs..

Customers start noticing that the quality of your products is decreaseing...you lose further money...the union still demands more pay..more benefits..

and you have to default....


All of your work for your entire life..is gone..and all the slackers around you cheer..and say "You deserved it."
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See, some do get it! hf
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Brief...you're a joke. If anyone has bad karma barreling down fast on them....it's you sweetheart. All the mindless, hateful crap you spew out towards people on GLP daily? It's YOU who better hope there's no such thing as karma.
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Noted, thanks for judging...Buddha or whoever you get your karma bullshit from has jotted it down in his book and will check it twice, thanks for playing.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Don't believe in karma...just the golden rule. You may want to study it sometime...oh judge-mental one....
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Brief...you're a joke. If anyone has bad karma barreling down fast on them....it's you sweetheart. All the mindless, hateful crap you spew out towards people on GLP daily? It's YOU who better hope there's no such thing as karma.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29612777


Noted, thanks for judging...Buddha or whoever you get your karma bullshit from has jotted it down in his book and will check it twice, thanks for playing.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Don't believe in karma...just the golden rule. You may want to study it sometime...oh judge-mental one....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29612777


You would be surprised what you don't know about me...if you read carefully enough, as many have, you'd change your attitude toward me...
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You still don't understand because you have a socialist mindset, which is natural for a woman.

Those people are being paid what they are worth in their chosen field of work...why would they work there for less if they could earn more with another company?

If you don't like what you make then go to another company that is willing to give you more because you bring a skill to that company that they need.

If you have nothing more to offer that makes you more money then you are at the top of your pay scale for your particular set of skills...so then what?
 Quoting: BRIEF


I get what you are saying, but if they are not paying any of the skilled workers enough to live, then it is time for the workers to band together to force a trickle down effect of wages.

This is the premise of why and how unions were formed.

If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

It has nothing to do with being a woman.
 Quoting: Madame X


Unions bankrupt companies...if the government stays out of the way and let the market work then the skilled workers make more and the unskilled have motivation to improve...
 Quoting: BRIEF


He speaks the truth...

The opponents of this would see it the same way if they owned a company with a moderate staff. Just imagine, you worked hard and focused throughout high-school while a lot of the kids around you slacked...you got a low-paying job and bought yourself a used car, put all your money into fixing it and keeping it running while, you worked your way through college eating nothing but pasta noodles 5 nights a week.

You finally graduate college and set out on building the dream you had since you were a teenager of a company. You first get a job with your degree to get some solid startup money going and work hard through a job you don't want to do --saving all of your money -- again only living off the bare essentials. People all around you buying and spending on stuff..you can't go nowhere..you can't buy anything because you need to get where you want to go.

You have enough money to put down on a loan...you get yourself a nice building in the city to begin your company. You start making a name for yourself..working long hours..all alone. Finally, you can hire one employee...then two..then three..and it begins to grow into a respectable corporation.

After a few years of solid growth..all those people that were slacking around you start to look at you as a greedy bastard.

Your employees think you are a scrooge and don't do enough for them. They form a union and begin setting rules that start to squeeze all of your funds from the inside out and you begin to bleed and start loosing your profits.

You can't purchase your equipment, pay your licensing fees, can't afford repairs..

Customers start noticing that the quality of your products is decreaseing...you lose further money...the union still demands more pay..more benefits..

and you have to default....


All of your work for your entire life..is gone..and all the slackers around you cheer..and say "You deserved it."
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The owner hired the wrong people number one

and number two; did not exercise the right to immediately fire "problems".

Three, did not hire smart managers and engineers who know how to develop good products


just few
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Still here and still trolling I see.

I'm glad your hate eats you up. 5a
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communism 101
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No, in Communism the state owns the hospital. The workers make a pittance because the government provides them with apartments without heat, and grocery stores without food, so they need little money to buy things like food and housing.

The State owns the assets, including your pitiful salary, and they decide how much to give you. Then they fund nice daschas (villas) for the party bosses.

Here the government pretends to pay you your whole salary, but extracts fully 1/2 of it for taxes and fees.

If the government would let people keep what they make, like they used to, people would not be in such poverty that they need food banks.


Nobody sets up food banks in Communist countries.
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communism 101
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No, in Communism the state owns the hospital. The workers make a pittance because the government provides them with apartments without heat, and grocery stores without food, so they need little money to buy things like food and housing.

The State owns the assets, including your pitiful salary, and they decide how much to give you. Then they fund nice daschas (villas) for the party bosses.

Here the government pretends to pay you your whole salary, but extracts fully 1/2 of it for taxes and fees.

If the government would let people keep what they make, like they used to, people would not be in such poverty that they need food banks.


Nobody sets up food banks in Communist countries.
 Quoting: waterlily


Basically....that is what is happening with ObamaCare.

Get ready America. sideways
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That's what happens with private, "for profit" hospitals. McJobs in the name of "efficiency" and "shareholder value."

At least up here even they guy mopping the puke of the floor gets paid a living wage + benefits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283316



May want to check the corporate charter on this hospital. Ours is an eleemosynary hospital and the docs and corporate heads all do very well on large incomes. Just saying, the way things are going it doesn't have to be a "private for profit" to underpay staff.

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