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Hospital Opens Food Bank For Their Low Wage Employees

 
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Living wage = food> mostly low cost carbo; few high quality
rent> bare minimum ; no frills ; possibly poor side of town ; whatever is cheapest
Car payment> for a used car ; no frills
gas> to and from work ;not over the road trips or extended entertainment
One movie at a movie theater ; "big spender" and none of that fattening popcorn
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Thank you that's what I thought it was. Just wanted to see if anyone can put an actual number value to it. So in terms of living wage, if you have enough to do that, then they are being compensated fairly. If not, why not change jobs, move to another city/state? Drop the portable devices, expensive clothes, on and on.

People are told BEFORE they start a job what they will be paid. They choose to accept or decline the offer.

As one post said..."maybe the company doesn't have the money to give raises". This may be what they can do to help.
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Nice idea. We are a family of four living in a motel room. The cost of living in our area is insane. Jobs are scarce. We were paycheck to paycheck until my husband lost our job. Now we don't have the money to move or even put down on an apartment. We are NOT using public assistance of any sort. We are surviving on Ramen noodles at times. This is as good as it gets in this area for now. AND- this is better than we were doing a few months ago when we were sleeping in the truck with our kids ~.^


You, like myself, are the type of people that do fall in the cracks. We work hard, always have. Don't expect expensive crap or extras. Just want to do a good job and live with the skills/lack of that we were dealt. I feel for the folks like us. I have been on welfare, public housing, and 2 babies to feed doing 2nd shift at a restaurant, third shift at a hotel, and Saturdays cutting grass with a push mower. People like us do what we need to do...and many times it does hurt. What pisses me off are the ones who vaguely put statements like "the evil ceo" or the heartless 1%" I have been dirt poor all my life until I was noticed for my over and above hard work and now I can breath a little. However, I do not envy the rich or those who choose to spend their companies' money the way that they see fit. I do not think every kid should get a trophy for "participation". My prayers go out to you and those of us who go above and beyond every day in their job KNOWING that they won't ever be paid top salary.
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Living wage = food> mostly low cost carbo; few high quality
rent> bare minimum ; no frills ; possibly poor side of town ; whatever is cheapest
Car payment> for a used car ; no frills
gas> to and from work ;not over the road trips or extended entertainment
One movie at a movie theater ; "big spender" and none of that fattening popcorn
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Thank you that's what I thought it was. Just wanted to see if anyone can put an actual number value to it. So in terms of living wage, if you have enough to do that, then they are being compensated fairly. If not, why not change jobs, move to another city/state? Drop the portable devices, expensive clothes, on and on.

People are told BEFORE they start a job what they will be paid. They choose to accept or decline the offer.

As one post said..."maybe the company doesn't have the money to give raises". This may be what they can do to help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


Just think

Bare minimum


But, when the global economic crash comes, it is the poor who will do well

The poor are use to having to be creative in their living.


The pampered rich; will not fare as well

Who died during the great depression of 1929?? a lot of bankers ; wealthy


this is a bit off topic but on my mind a lot lately


You make a strong point. I would like to add also that the "pampered poor" will also go....the ones who could get by with what they had, thru determination and smart spending will make it
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Living wage = food> mostly low cost carbo; few high quality
rent> bare minimum ; no frills ; possibly poor side of town ; whatever is cheapest
Car payment> for a used car ; no frills
gas> to and from work ;not over the road trips or extended entertainment
One movie at a movie theater ; "big spender" and none of that fattening popcorn
 Quoting: Booted and Suited


Thank you that's what I thought it was. Just wanted to see if anyone can put an actual number value to it. So in terms of living wage, if you have enough to do that, then they are being compensated fairly. If not, why not change jobs, move to another city/state? Drop the portable devices, expensive clothes, on and on.

People are told BEFORE they start a job what they will be paid. They choose to accept or decline the offer.

As one post said..."maybe the company doesn't have the money to give raises". This may be what they can do to help.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


Just think

Bare minimum


But, when the global economic crash comes, it is the poor who will do well

The poor are use to having to be creative in their living.


The pampered rich; will not fare as well

Who died during the great depression of 1929?? a lot of bankers ; wealthy


this is a bit off topic but on my mind a lot lately
 Quoting: Booted and Suited


You make a strong point. I would like to add also that the "pampered poor" will also go....the ones who could get by with what they had, thru determination and smart spending will make it

I agree

you have a point

the pampered poor who live welfare check to welfare check
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Ain't humanism, atheism and evolutionism grand?
Why are you crying? This is what you asked for people, this is what your "educators" did for you because you had a personal problem with your Creator.

"We don't need no stinkin' god"

Yeah I can tell, going real grand.

Congratulations humanists.

The rest of you also need this lesson to see how good God has been to you how he has blessed you, and when you as a nation turned on him we see what happened.

Mammonisn, humanism and all that stinking garbage.
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communism 101
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it's our future
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Maybe yours but not mine

it is if you keep saying it

nothing will change if you don't try to change it but just accept it like a stupid slave

good luck
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communism 101
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it's our future
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1340294


Maybe yours but not mine

it is if you keep saying it

nothing will change if you don't try to change it but just accept it like a stupid slave

good luck
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Suggestions please.

I'm wondering if the unions are putting such a squeeze on the hospital that they can't help it. That' what happened to Hostess right; the unions waanted more money and hostess said "we can't afford it"
unions forced hostess out of business. Loks like this hospital is trying to stay afloat in an obamanation.
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Ain't humanism, atheism and evolutionism grand?
Why are you crying? This is what you asked for people, this is what your "educators" did for you because you had a personal problem with your Creator.

"We don't need no stinkin' god"

Yeah I can tell, going real grand.

Congratulations humanists.

The rest of you also need this lesson to see how good God has been to you how he has blessed you, and when you as a nation turned on him we see what happened.

Mammonisn, humanism and all that stinking garbage.
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You hit the nail on the head
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That's like the electric company asking me to donate to help low income people.
Or walmart asking me to donate my change for something.

Assholes.
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communism 101
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are you retarded?????? this is a result of unfetted capitalism 101
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That's what happens with private, "for profit" hospitals. McJobs in the name of "efficiency" and "shareholder value."

At least up here even they guy mopping the puke of the floor gets paid a living wage + benefits.
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May want to check the corporate charter on this hospital. Ours is an eleemosynary hospital and the docs and corporate heads all do very well on large incomes. Just saying, the way things are going it doesn't have to be a "private for profit" to underpay staff.
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Doctors earn their pay...they committed, sacrificed, studied, worked, probably borrowed thousands, and deserve what they make...
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ok

some do but you did not work in the business

I have a different take on it

and there are nurses out there who probably know miles more than some "doctor" but

because this society is all about Titles and "education"

never are recognized and

never go on to pay those outrageous medical school bills to attain that pie in the sky degree
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


LOL, no...I know doctors, and dentists, and no Nurse has the training, skill, or knowledge they have...or they would be doctors!
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May want to check the corporate charter on this hospital. Ours is an eleemosynary hospital and the docs and corporate heads all do very well on large incomes. Just saying, the way things are going it doesn't have to be a "private for profit" to underpay staff.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29491937


Doctors earn their pay...they committed, sacrificed, studied, worked, probably borrowed thousands, and deserve what they make...
 Quoting: BRIEF


ok

some do but you did not work in the business

I have a different take on it

and there are nurses out there who probably know miles more than some "doctor" but

because this society is all about Titles and "education"

never are recognized and

never go on to pay those outrageous medical school bills to attain that pie in the sky degree
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


LOL, no...I know doctors, and dentists, and no Nurse has the training, skill, or knowledge they have...or they would be doctors!
 Quoting: BRIEF


Yeah true, but youd be surprised at how many do their job.
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People are paid what they are worth...some just aren't worth shit...anyone can push a broom...if you want to make more money then go learn a skill...
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...such as paid shillery where you get to post neofascist statements all day EVERY day like Brief. All you have to do is post pro-authority, anti-freedom, pro-violence comments and then you get paid quarterly.

Just watch Brief's posts (not hard to find since he is here all day every day) if you're not sure about which themes to include in your posts. His themes rarely change. He never starts threads, just makes negative comments on other people's threads. You might say that makes him a "troll" but trolls don't get paid.

So sharpen those "skills"! You'll be nuking muzzies and giving state troopers handjobs in no time!
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Got me there. And let's just ignore that you're here all day every day with the exact same themes and messages. Either you are a paid online communications associate (YOU ARE) or you are sad sad sad. You're just doing your job. I know how this stuff works. You've done a good job here too. You've helped turn a conspiracy site into a right wing site. The themes that you promote are now normal and even prevalent here. This place is now controlled. I just hope (for your sake) that you, personally, agree with the message and themes that you're paid to promote here. Otherwise, you might be growing to hate your job. Most o.line communications associates do.
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Well, you got me figured out...guess I can retire now...who should I appoint to take my place?
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Instead of paying a decent wage so that their employees can eat and support their families,this hospital has asked their employees to donate canned good donations for the lower paid staff.Tell me this aint fucked up.Read this...you'll be amazed

[link to www.pghcitypaper.com]
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I really hope these employees don't fall for this. This is an attempt by the management to make these people feel helpless. If the management cared at all for these employees they would give them a raise. Some of the most evil people I've met have been in a hospital environment.
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Listen up everyone. Brief is a miserable human being, narcistic, nasty and very very lonely. His days are filled with a job he hates and so he comes to GLP to relive himself. Remember when your Mom told you to ignore the bully and he will go away? The same applies here. You are not going to change his loathsome attitude but if yopu ignore his posts he will get bored and move on to another hread to beat up someone else. I'm off to another thread, it stinks in here. Brief::hf:
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I love my family and my life, what I speak is the truth...
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It's just an extension of "tip me because i am working disease" that has infected this nation. You see tip jars everywhere, tip you for what!? Let your employer pay you, not my business. Stupid.
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Doctors earn their pay...they committed, sacrificed, studied, worked, probably borrowed thousands, and deserve what they make...
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ok

some do but you did not work in the business

I have a different take on it

and there are nurses out there who probably know miles more than some "doctor" but

because this society is all about Titles and "education"

never are recognized and

never go on to pay those outrageous medical school bills to attain that pie in the sky degree
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


LOL, no...I know doctors, and dentists, and no Nurse has the training, skill, or knowledge they have...or they would be doctors!
 Quoting: BRIEF


Yeah true, but youd be surprised at how many do their job.
 Quoting: Jervis and V-Honey


Nope, the nurses to the dirty work and that's what they are paid to do...My sister is an RN, I have many friends and clients that are doctors and dentists, they hire nurses and hygienists, to do a particular job, it's reasonable and it's fair...
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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That's like the electric company asking me to donate to help low income people.
Or walmart asking me to donate my change for something.

Assholes.
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Exactly.
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ok

some do but you did not work in the business


I have a different take on it

and there are nurses out there who probably know miles more than some "doctor" but

because this society is all about Titles and "education"

never are recognized and

never go on to pay those outrageous medical school bills to attain that pie in the sky degree
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


LOL, no...I know doctors, and dentists, and no Nurse has the training, skill, or knowledge they have...or they would be doctors!
 Quoting: BRIEF


Yeah true, but youd be surprised at how many do their job.
 Quoting: Jervis and V-Honey


Nope, the nurses to the dirty work and that's what they are paid to do...My sister is an RN, I have many friends and clients that are doctors and dentists, they hire nurses and hygienists, to do a particular job, it's reasonable and it's fair...
 Quoting: BRIEF



Yes, it is true the PA's etc. follow the orders, but the MD is the one the lawyers go after. Plus if you didn't didn't come from money, and did it all on loans, you were looking at about 200K in debt after residency if you had a kid or two along the way.

I know. I lived it. And we are not as well off as you would think. Not if you are an ER doc. It was too big a price to pay if you want the truth, at least for our family .

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Have to agree with Brief. If they were worth more, they would get paid more. This should be self-evident for any honest man.

But, part of the reason they are worth less has NOTHING at all to do with HOW they are as human beings. Some had jobs shipped overseas. Some had jobs lost to computerization and automation. No fault of theirs. It just is. No easy answer to make it better, either. No need to cast stones.

The REAL reason we are so bitter is because we have been betrayed, not by men like Brief, but by ourselves.

We let them do it to us.

Republicans let sweet speakers spin a tale of bountiful times with free trade. Meanwhile globalization of our jobs has decimated the American worker. Not that the Democrats are fighting it.

Democrats wax eloquently about how we must protect and honor new illegal immigrants, while ignoring their effects on the wages of the American worker. Not that Republicans mind the cheap labor.

Obama doesn't throw the thief Corzine in jail for stealing hundreds of millions of dollars illegally with MF Global. Republicans don't say hardly a word because they are paid by the same master.

Stop quibbling bullshit. All those at the top are your enemy.
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LOL, no...I know doctors, and dentists, and no Nurse has the training, skill, or knowledge they have...or they would be doctors!
 Quoting: BRIEF


Yeah true, but youd be surprised at how many do their job.
 Quoting: Jervis and V-Honey


Nope, the nurses to the dirty work and that's what they are paid to do...My sister is an RN, I have many friends and clients that are doctors and dentists, they hire nurses and hygienists, to do a particular job, it's reasonable and it's fair...
 Quoting: BRIEF



Yes, it is true the PA's etc. follow the orders, but the MD is the one the lawyers go after. Plus if you didn't didn't come from money, and did it all on loans, you were looking at about 200K in debt after residency if you had a kid or two along the way.

I know. I lived it. And we are not as well off as you would think. Not if you are an ER doc. It was too big a price to pay if you want the truth, at least for our family .
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norespect And if you are an ER doc...you get no respect, almost none.
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Yeah true, but youd be surprised at how many do their job.
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Nope, the nurses to the dirty work and that's what they are paid to do...My sister is an RN, I have many friends and clients that are doctors and dentists, they hire nurses and hygienists, to do a particular job, it's reasonable and it's fair...
 Quoting: BRIEF



Yes, it is true the PA's etc. follow the orders, but the MD is the one the lawyers go after. Plus if you didn't didn't come from money, and did it all on loans, you were looking at about 200K in debt after residency if you had a kid or two along the way.

I know. I lived it. And we are not as well off as you would think. Not if you are an ER doc. It was too big a price to pay if you want the truth, at least for our family .
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norespect And if you are an ER doc...you get no respect, almost none.

 Quoting: allisaTX



And April 15th is a joy. I/3 of your paycheck goes to Uncle Sam. And then you have the hell of worrying if you underpaid during the year.

It's just a grand life being an ER doc...but it's all how you take it of course and some can get off the treadmill long enough to figure out they are not taking it very well....other's can't, because of a host of reasons they keep on doing what they believe is right, even if it's killing them....and that's my husband...it's killing him, but he can't stop and it's a damn shame.

So be nice to your ER doc on your next visit.

Thanks!5a

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Nope, the nurses to the dirty work and that's what they are paid to do...My sister is an RN, I have many friends and clients that are doctors and dentists, they hire nurses and hygienists, to do a particular job, it's reasonable and it's fair...
 Quoting: BRIEF



Yes, it is true the PA's etc. follow the orders, but the MD is the one the lawyers go after. Plus if you didn't didn't come from money, and did it all on loans, you were looking at about 200K in debt after residency if you had a kid or two along the way.

I know. I lived it. And we are not as well off as you would think. Not if you are an ER doc. It was too big a price to pay if you want the truth, at least for our family .
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norespect And if you are an ER doc...you get no respect, almost none.

 Quoting: allisaTX



And April 15th is a joy. I/3 of your paycheck goes to Uncle Sam. And then you have the hell of worrying if you underpaid during the year.

It's just a grand!
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Why do you get no respect as an ER doc?
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LOL, no...I know doctors, and dentists, and no Nurse has the training, skill, or knowledge they have...or they would be doctors!
 Quoting: BRIEF


Yeah true, but youd be surprised at how many do their job.
 Quoting: Jervis and V-Honey


Nope, the nurses to the dirty work and that's what they are paid to do...My sister is an RN, I have many friends and clients that are doctors and dentists, they hire nurses and hygienists, to do a particular job, it's reasonable and it's fair...
 Quoting: BRIEF



Yes, it is true the PA's etc. follow the orders, but the MD is the one the lawyers go after. Plus if you didn't didn't come from money, and did it all on loans, you were looking at about 200K in debt after residency if you had a kid or two along the way.

I know. I lived it. And we are not as well off as you would think. Not if you are an ER doc. It was too big a price to pay if you want the truth, at least for our family .
 Quoting: allisaTX


A friend of mine and his wife (met in dental school) are 40 and a million dollars in debt...that's $1,000,000.00 plus interest for loans on school, house, car, and buying a small practice...plus interest...if they make 300K a year, Obama considers them rich, but that barely puts food on the table with all their payments and hiring a couple of helping hands...
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Yes, it is true the PA's etc. follow the orders, but the MD is the one the lawyers go after. Plus if you didn't didn't come from money, and did it all on loans, you were looking at about 200K in debt after residency if you had a kid or two along the way.

I know. I lived it. And we are not as well off as you would think. Not if you are an ER doc. It was too big a price to pay if you want the truth, at least for our family .
 Quoting: allisaTX



norespect And if you are an ER doc...you get no respect, almost none.

 Quoting: allisaTX



And April 15th is a joy. I/3 of your paycheck goes to Uncle Sam. And then you have the hell of worrying if you underpaid during the year.

It's just a grand!
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Why do you get no respect as an ER doc?
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I believe it is because ER docs are seeing people at their worst. See patients no longer are respectful of their doctors in general. This is a level one trauma center. Patients demand antibiotics, they demand plastic surgeons for a small laceration, they demand pregnancy tests, etc. etc. And they demand narcotics. Many are thankful and understand, but not many.

Recently my husband had a patient or a "client" as they are asked to call them say to him..."Oh I remember you, you waited on me before"....ok....that feels like crap to an MD....call us elitist or whatever, but "you waited on me before?"

And the sad thing is he has lost the understanding that this is a noble life he is living...a noble profession...he has saved many lives, but he has had no life of his own..

we are separated..
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Doctors earn their pay...they committed, sacrificed, studied, worked, probably borrowed thousands, and deserve what they make...
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ok

some do but you did not work in the business

I have a different take on it

and there are nurses out there who probably know miles more than some "doctor" but

because this society is all about Titles and "education"

never are recognized and

never go on to pay those outrageous medical school bills to attain that pie in the sky degree
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


LOL, no...I know doctors, and dentists, and no Nurse has the training, skill, or knowledge they have...or they would be doctors!
 Quoting: BRIEF


Yeah true, but youd be surprised at how many do their job.
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Many a nurse do a docs job
they are smarter in many cases
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ok

some do but you did not work in the business

I have a different take on it

and there are nurses out there who probably know miles more than some "doctor" but

because this society is all about Titles and "education"

never are recognized and

never go on to pay those outrageous medical school bills to attain that pie in the sky degree
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LOL, no...I know doctors, and dentists, and no Nurse has the training, skill, or knowledge they have...or they would be doctors!
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Yeah true, but youd be surprised at how many do their job.
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Many a nurse do a docs job
they are smarter in many cases
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Then why aren't they doctors?


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Yeah true, but youd be surprised at how many do their job.
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Nope, the nurses to the dirty work and that's what they are paid to do...My sister is an RN, I have many friends and clients that are doctors and dentists, they hire nurses and hygienists, to do a particular job, it's reasonable and it's fair...
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Yes, it is true the PA's etc. follow the orders, but the MD is the one the lawyers go after. Plus if you didn't didn't come from money, and did it all on loans, you were looking at about 200K in debt after residency if you had a kid or two along the way.

I know. I lived it. And we are not as well off as you would think. Not if you are an ER doc. It was too big a price to pay if you want the truth, at least for our family .
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A friend of mine and his wife (met in dental school) are 40 and a million dollars in debt...that's $1,000,000.00 plus interest for loans on school, house, car, and buying a small practice...plus interest...if they make 300K a year, Obama considers them rich, but that barely puts food on the table with all their payments and hiring a couple of helping hands...
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It will take a few years but as dentists with own practice; this is a cash cow

unless they really f-up on someone and have a suit....

they will have $$$

just a matter of time
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LOL, no...I know doctors, and dentists, and no Nurse has the training, skill, or knowledge they have...or they would be doctors!
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Yeah true, but youd be surprised at how many do their job.
 Quoting: Jervis and V-Honey


Many a nurse do a docs job
they are smarter in many cases
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Then why aren't they doctors?


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Numerous reasons I would imagine

some may not want to be a doc

others don't want the headaches
others don't want to high cost of schooling

so many reasons

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Nope, the nurses to the dirty work and that's what they are paid to do...My sister is an RN, I have many friends and clients that are doctors and dentists, they hire nurses and hygienists, to do a particular job, it's reasonable and it's fair...
 Quoting: BRIEF



Yes, it is true the PA's etc. follow the orders, but the MD is the one the lawyers go after. Plus if you didn't didn't come from money, and did it all on loans, you were looking at about 200K in debt after residency if you had a kid or two along the way.

I know. I lived it. And we are not as well off as you would think. Not if you are an ER doc. It was too big a price to pay if you want the truth, at least for our family .
 Quoting: allisaTX


A friend of mine and his wife (met in dental school) are 40 and a million dollars in debt...that's $1,000,000.00 plus interest for loans on school, house, car, and buying a small practice...plus interest...if they make 300K a year, Obama considers them rich, but that barely puts food on the table with all their payments and hiring a couple of helping hands...
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It will take a few years but as dentists with own practice; this is a cash cow

unless they really f-up on someone and have a suit....

they will have $$$

just a matter of time
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You obviously have no clue of the state of the economy.
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Yeah true, but youd be surprised at how many do their job.
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Many a nurse do a docs job
they are smarter in many cases
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Then why aren't they doctors?


1rof1
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Numerous reasons I would imagine

some may not want to be a doc

others don't want the headaches
others don't want to high cost of schooling

so many reasons

Life is not a pure and orderly as you would like it Brief
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Then they accept the pay for their worth...
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Yeah true, but youd be surprised at how many do their job.
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Nope, the nurses to the dirty work and that's what they are paid to do...My sister is an RN, I have many friends and clients that are doctors and dentists, they hire nurses and hygienists, to do a particular job, it's reasonable and it's fair...
 Quoting: BRIEF



Yes, it is true the PA's etc. follow the orders, but the MD is the one the lawyers go after. Plus if you didn't didn't come from money, and did it all on loans, you were looking at about 200K in debt after residency if you had a kid or two along the way.

I know. I lived it. And we are not as well off as you would think. Not if you are an ER doc. It was too big a price to pay if you want the truth, at least for our family .
 Quoting: allisaTX


A friend of mine and his wife (met in dental school) are 40 and a million dollars in debt...that's $1,000,000.00 plus interest for loans on school, house, car, and buying a small practice...plus interest...if they make 300K a year, Obama considers them rich, but that barely puts food on the table with all their payments and hiring a couple of helping hands...
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Wow, that's sad, because that puts them on the treadmill right away. Part of the problem is doctors are not very wise business people. We had been poor so long, we only took out bare minimum loans for living. So we lived above our means from the beginning instead of paying off loans and living modestly, I thought I should "live" a certain way. It was partly because we were in Dallas and it was such a different lifestyle from what the average northeasterner was used to living, especially back in the early 90's.

We were also a decade behind as are your friends. My husband finished his residency when he was 38.

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