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how come americans earn so much money?

 
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12/13/2012 04:44 PM
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
I make 23K Euro a year in salary. I feel like complete fucktwat.

I don't have a university degree but even with a uni degree I wouldn't gain as much as you guys make a year (70 to 80 K). I read these numbers a lot here on glp.. HOW do you guys do this.
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What Americans Earn (averages):
[link to www.npr.org]

Convert Dollars to Euros:
[link to themoneyconverter.com]
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Looks like fishermen in Alaska have huge earnings :)

The average salary in my country (Belgium) is €2000 a month. It's what my wife and I are earning, and we have a pleasant life. No excessive luxury, but a decent and joyful life.
Don't be envious, OP. Money is not a glorious goal.
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Hey belgium, yeah the living costs in belgium are not high, so 2K /month is really enough to have a decent life. A LOT friends of mine rent a house at the belgium border but travel in Luxembourg. They save up a lot of money.

I know money isn't everything but I'm seriously considering to move on to America.
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
Don't forget about the 47% of Americans who are on food stamps, unemployment, welfare or disability. Can't remember if social security was included in that number or not.
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
I make 23K Euro a year in salary. I feel like complete fucktwat.

I don't have a university degree but even with a uni degree I wouldn't gain as much as you guys make a year (70 to 80 K). I read these numbers a lot here on glp.. HOW do you guys do this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29776955


What Americans Earn (averages):
[link to www.npr.org]

Convert Dollars to Euros:
[link to themoneyconverter.com]
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Looks like fishermen in Alaska have huge earnings :)

The average salary in my country (Belgium) is €2000 a month. It's what my wife and I are earning, and we have a pleasant life. No excessive luxury, but a decent and joyful life.
Don't be envious, OP. Money is not a glorious goal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29579275


Hey belgium, yeah the living costs in belgium are not high, so 2K /month is really enough to have a decent life. A LOT friends of mine rent a house at the belgium border but travel in Luxembourg. They save up a lot of money.

I know money isn't everything but I'm seriously considering to move on to America.
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Just wondering.... Are we speaking about gross or net income ?

In Belgium, €2000 net income = more or less €3200 gross income. Yeah Belgium taxes wages heavily.
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12/13/2012 04:51 PM
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
5a

Because the US economy is a PONZI scheme. In order for the economy to expand people have to acquire more things. In order to acquire more things you haqve got to make more money which in turn leads to further acquisition which leads to an expanding economy. Then some bright individual came up with the idea that Americans didn't have to make that much more as long as they could acquire on credit and we were off to the races. The only problem was when TSHTF all of this falls apart like a house of cards in brisk wind.
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12/13/2012 04:58 PM
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
certainly there must be some young economist undergrad
who has created a cost of live index for all the
major countries in the world...

you would have to gauge the wages in each of the major
countries of the world against the relative cost of
living indices for that the answer to that question
to have any meaning.
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12/13/2012 04:59 PM

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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
I make 23K Euro a year in salary. I feel like complete fucktwat.

I don't have a university degree but even with a uni degree I wouldn't gain as much as you guys make a year (70 to 80 K). I read these numbers a lot here on glp.. HOW do you guys do this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29776955


What Americans Earn (averages):
[link to www.npr.org]

Convert Dollars to Euros:
[link to themoneyconverter.com]
 Quoting: nutmeg


So the average american earns 50K, respectively 38,232.00 EUR

To be honest, that's really good.

38K would make 3100 euros/month. That's the salary of a good teacher here.

I think the americans do well. You guys don't have to hide. What bothers me though is the fact that they are so many homeless people over there in the US.
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I think some of our "homeless" are mentally ill. Did you read about the "homeless" man in NYC recently who was sitting on the sidewalk without shoes, and the policeman bought him shoes? Turns out, the man in the newspaper was identified by his brother. The brother said the man had an apartment. I don't think the man did it for attention; I think he is ill.

Anyhow, this is what I found on homeless in America:
[link to www.endhomelessness.org]

(The population of the USA is over 314,165,191 people.)

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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
i have often thought that the best measure of the "cost of living" can be measured by the costs of a loaf of bread,
a dozen eggs and a quart of milk, respectively, for
each of the respective countries (or whatever staple
foods that can be equated together)
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12/13/2012 05:07 PM
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
From what I have seen implementing software systems covering HR Americans tend to ear either the same or less than their European counterparts...

But from what I have seen the cost of living is cheaper so it seems to balance out, however Americans have to pay for things that we accept are part of life, such as paid sick leave, holiday entitlements, maternity and paternity leave, redundancy pay etc

I guess where you want to be depends on what you value in life, personally I prefer the fact I have a safety net for my family (even if it is now run down and abused)
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
but, if you are talking about executives and upper-level managers, then that is a whole "market" of it's own, governed
by the simple laws of "supply and demand".
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12/13/2012 05:12 PM
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I fixed that for you. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
Justalittlebad/more or less
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12/13/2012 05:14 PM
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
i have often thought that the best measure of the "cost of living" can be measured by the costs of a loaf of bread,
a dozen eggs and a quart of milk, respectively, for
each of the respective countries (or whatever staple
foods that can be equated together)
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


A basket of goods including fuel would be a better place to start in my opinion.. fuel poverty seems to be a real issue, especially now it is getting colder..

I have heard many stories of the aged burning books from second hand shops as it is cheaper than buying other forms of fuel..
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12/13/2012 05:15 PM
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
You also have to consider we do not get public health care. We do not have secure jobs, we could be outsourced in a second. No workers rights.

I know someone from Germany. They get 30 days paid vacation a year plus German holidays and there are a lot of them. If they get laid off and the company decides they want to fill the position again. They get first pick.
Paid leave for child care. Paid medical, dental. Even cash for the cab ride home with your meds that they gave you.

Here you have to pay for all that.
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tru
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so you don't really have it that bad. you have it pretty good compared to most Americans.
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12/13/2012 05:18 PM
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
I make 23K Euro a year in salary. I feel like complete fucktwat.

I don't have a university degree but even with a uni degree I wouldn't gain as much as you guys make a year (70 to 80 K). I read these numbers a lot here on glp.. HOW do you guys do this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29776955


What Americans Earn (averages):
[link to www.npr.org]

Convert Dollars to Euros:
[link to themoneyconverter.com]
 Quoting: nutmeg


Looks like fishermen in Alaska have huge earnings :)

The average salary in my country (Belgium) is €2000 a month. It's what my wife and I are earning, and we have a pleasant life. No excessive luxury, but a decent and joyful life.
Don't be envious, OP. Money is not a glorious goal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29579275


Hey belgium, yeah the living costs in belgium are not high, so 2K /month is really enough to have a decent life. A LOT friends of mine rent a house at the belgium border but travel in Luxembourg. They save up a lot of money.

I know money isn't everything but I'm seriously considering to move on to America.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29776955


You ready for the extremely high cost of health care? That freaked out my Australian friend when she arrived here. She still wants to go back but is stuck for now.
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
cuz ameri-slobs buy so much useless crap.

you should see our landfills.

and they spit on the homeless and disabled.
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12/13/2012 05:20 PM
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
$10,000 per year is considered very low wage. but a single
person can live a very simple life and be comfortable with it.
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12/13/2012 05:58 PM
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
How does one survive on $600 SSI?
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
You also have to consider we do not get public health care. We do not have secure jobs, we could be outsourced in a second. No workers rights.

I know someone from Germany. They get 30 days paid vacation a year plus German holidays and there are a lot of them. If they get laid off and the company decides they want to fill the position again. They get first pick.
Paid leave for child care. Paid medical, dental. Even cash for the cab ride home with your meds that they gave you.

Here you have to pay for all that.
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tru
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so you don't really have it that bad. you have it pretty good compared to most Americans.
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^^^ This.
...and costs of living are lower in many areas.
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
You also have to consider we do not get public health care. We do not have secure jobs, we could be outsourced in a second. No workers rights.

I know someone from Germany. They get 30 days paid vacation a year plus German holidays and there are a lot of them. If they get laid off and the company decides they want to fill the position again. They get first pick.
Paid leave for child care. Paid medical, dental. Even cash for the cab ride home with your meds that they gave you.

Here you have to pay for all that.
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tru
 Quoting: Sharty Mc Bean


so you don't really have it that bad. you have it pretty good compared to most Americans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


i can not complain. but a lot of things are a lot more expensive over here. we pay at least 25000€ for a new VW golf VI...
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
How does one survive on $600 SSI?
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SSI is for those who have never worked or put money
into the social security fund.

if the $600 per month is their only source of income
there are many social services agencies that will give
them "freebees". for instance HUD would give the individual
nice living quarters for a nominal $10 per month.

so, after, free food, free rent, free clothing,etc...
you see that the $600 per month almost becomes "pocket money",
for general spending :)
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
note: the $600 SSI is 600 per month.
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
so, you see?

there is a whole Socialist sub-culture in America that
very few people know about or understand.
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
$10,000 per year is considered very low wage. but a single healthy person can live a very simple life and be comfortable with it.
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Fixed it for you.

I am a type 1 diabetic and WITH health insurance my medical costs range from about $3000 to $6000 per year.

If I was unemployed and without health insurance, those numbers could easily top $30,000. And we're talking just to stay alive and remain relatively healthy, before any other costs (food and housing).

We are all slaves to our jobs, especially those dependent on the health care system to live. But universal healthcare is a bad thing, remember...
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
I make 23K Euro a year in salary. I feel like complete fucktwat.

I don't have a university degree but even with a uni degree I wouldn't gain as much as you guys make a year (70 to 80 K). I read these numbers a lot here on glp.. HOW do you guys do this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29776955


What Americans Earn (averages):
[link to www.npr.org]

Convert Dollars to Euros:
[link to themoneyconverter.com]
 Quoting: nutmeg


So the average american earns 50K, respectively 38,232.00 EUR

To be honest, that's really good.

38K would make 3100 euros/month. That's the salary of a good teacher here.

I think the americans do well. You guys don't have to hide. What bothers me though is the fact that they are so many homeless people over there in the US.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29776955


Not really if you have kids and a high house payment or rent

then, if you slap bills on top of it

few have a lot of excess cash for savings accounts.

Many in this country live paycheck to paycheck and are one or two paychecks from homelessness if job loss.


It is not out of the ordinary for a house payment to eat up more than half that salary.
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
$10,000 per year is considered very low wage. but a single healthy person can live a very simple life and be comfortable with it.
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Fixed it for you.

I am a type 1 diabetic and WITH health insurance my medical costs range from about $3000 to $6000 per year.

If I was unemployed and without health insurance, those numbers could easily top $30,000. And we're talking just to stay alive and remain relatively healthy, before any other costs (food and housing).

We are all slaves to our jobs, especially those dependent on the health care system to live. But universal healthcare is a bad thing, remember...
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Diabetes is a curable disease contrary to trad medicine

you should get with a natural doctor who can stop the deterioration of your pancreas and cure your pancreas
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
I make 23K Euro a year in salary. I feel like complete fucktwat.

I don't have a university degree but even with a uni degree I wouldn't gain as much as you guys make a year (70 to 80 K). I read these numbers a lot here on glp.. HOW do you guys do this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29776955


yeah, but don't you get 6 weeks mandatory vacation per year and free healthcare?
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When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
$10,000 per year is considered very low wage. but a single healthy person can live a very simple life and be comfortable with it.
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Fixed it for you.

I am a type 1 diabetic and WITH health insurance my medical costs range from about $3000 to $6000 per year.

If I was unemployed and without health insurance, those numbers could easily top $30,000. And we're talking just to stay alive and remain relatively healthy, before any other costs (food and housing).

We are all slaves to our jobs, especially those dependent on the health care system to live. But universal healthcare is a bad thing, remember...
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You pay for your own insurance....so why does the ENTIRE USA have to pay for GOVERNMENT insurance? grnrolleyes

All that was needed was allowing competition across state lines and any premium issues would have been nullified by competition forces.

Basically....you just want a free ride on everyone else...never mind fixing the actual problem.

failsmile

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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
$10,000 per year is considered very low wage. but a single healthy person can live a very simple life and be comfortable with it.
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Fixed it for you.

I am a type 1 diabetic and WITH health insurance my medical costs range from about $3000 to $6000 per year.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7159688


low income people get free medical care (if they can
find a social worker to steer them into it)
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
$10,000 per year is considered very low wage. but a single healthy person can live a very simple life and be comfortable with it.
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Fixed it for you.

I am a type 1 diabetic and WITH health insurance my medical costs range from about $3000 to $6000 per year.


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and, btw, it's disgusting and vile to be changing
the words in somebody's post... stop doing it, you slob.
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
Luxenbourg has the highest average income of all countries in the world at above $100,000/year. So WTF are you talking about?
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Re: how come americans earn so much money?
Luxenbourg has the highest average income of all countries in the world at above $100,000/year. So WTF are you talking about?
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what's the tax rate.

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