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CHRISTIANS, please explain what happened to FISH during the Great Flood/Noah's Ark??

 
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Re: CHRISTIANS, please explain what happened to FISH during the Great Flood/Noah's Ark??
a few crib notes: we have fossilized tools no older than a few hundred years old, but we do not have modern examples of fossilized fish... and there are examples of fossilized fish with other fish in their mouths...

implying, like with the mammoths in Russia w grass frozen in their mouths that something happened quite rapidly to cover the fish (fish decay quickly)

according to Veith, there is lots of evidence that many of the fossils we currently have were made in a flood catastrophe, but it is dismissed...

also, there are no rivers in the world with more silt at the delta than a few thousand years worth--when dams are planned they measure silt in the river to ascertain viability, so they know what to expect and it is not there..

no trees with ring count more than around 5,000 years worth... anywhere in the world... carbon dating is faulty--see bbc doc on shroud of turin for more on why this is so... more crap science basically...

true science based on empirical evidence would support the bible... but typically you won't find it and careers get lost over this kind of issue...

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Re: CHRISTIANS, please explain what happened to FISH during the Great Flood/Noah's Ark??
Um...the fish just swam like always. Including fresh-water fish. Which as any aquarium keeper will tell you, is not going to work well.

But god magicked the fish so they could all live in the same water. And magically allowed them to survive the churning waters of something a dozen magnitudes worse than any flood or tsunami we've ever seen. And magically took care of the benthic species, and the ones that grow in tidal pools, and the ones that only dwell in still water, and the ones that have to live near geothermal vents.

God also magically brought land animals to the ark, kept them from fighting or dying of disease and bad sanitation and overcrowding and complete lack of all those things namby-pamby zookeepers seem to think are necessary to allow even the less exotic species to survive. And fed them, too. And kept the ark from breaking up in the equivalent of a 1,000 meter tidal surge, and kept an oversized wooden boat afloat and...

....what does GOD need with a BOAT?

If he is going to magic everything else, what was the POINT of the damned BOAT?
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And he magically transported kangaroos,wombats and convicts to Australia.
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a few crib notes: we have fossilized tools no older than a few hundred years old, but we do not have modern examples of fossilized fish... and there are examples of fossilized fish with other fish in their mouths...

implying, like with the mammoths in Russia w grass frozen in their mouths that something happened quite rapidly to cover the fish (fish decay quickly)

according to Veith, there is lots of evidence that many of the fossils we currently have were made in a flood catastrophe, but it is dismissed...

also, there are no rivers in the world with more silt at the delta than a few thousand years worth--when dams are planned they measure silt in the river to ascertain viability, so they know what to expect and it is not there..

no trees with ring count more than around 5,000 years worth... anywhere in the world... carbon dating is faulty--see bbc doc on shroud of turin for more on why this is so... more crap science basically...

true science based on empirical evidence would support the bible... but typically you won't find it and careers get lost over this kind of issue...

:)
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Once again where did the water go, and once again you are saying that the flood was globally to the tune of 30K+ feet????? (Himalayas)...
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And he magically transported kangaroos,wombats and convicts to Australia.
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Oops my mistake.
Kangaroos and wombats are aquatic creatures so they swam there.
Now about those convicts...
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Did Noah bring fish aboard the Ark? Possibly barnacles were attached to the bottom of the boat, but what about sharks, dolphins, sea urchins and whales aboard his Ark? Or did they survive the flood?

Also, did he bring each variation of each species or did they evolve after the water subsided? Germs, viruses?

I can't just rely on faith here. God has given us brains to reason with...please explain!
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They laid eggs before they swam or died.
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Well, they live in water, so i'd say they did OK lol
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And he magically transported kangaroos,wombats and convicts to Australia.
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Oops my mistake.
Kangaroos and wombats are aquatic creatures so they swam there.
Now about those convicts...
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Treading water with 1,000 foot waves? Yea... anyone who has seriously done the math with regards to the flood and the sheer amount of water realizes that the Earth would NO LONGER be here if that account was factual. Sounds great on paper until you start calculating friction, pressure, depth, tectonic plate movements, etc...
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And he magically transported kangaroos,wombats and convicts to Australia.
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Oops my mistake.
Kangaroos and wombats are aquatic creatures so they swam there.
Now about those convicts...
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Treading water with 1,000 foot waves? Yea... anyone who has seriously done the math with regards to the flood and the sheer amount of water realizes that the Earth would NO LONGER be here if that account was factual. Sounds great on paper until you start calculating friction, pressure, depth, tectonic plate movements, etc...
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Pictures of the legendary wombat fish... [link to www.google.co.nz]
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And he magically transported kangaroos,wombats and convicts to Australia.
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Oops my mistake.
Kangaroos and wombats are aquatic creatures so they swam there.
Now about those convicts...
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Treading water with 1,000 foot waves? Yea... anyone who has seriously done the math with regards to the flood and the sheer amount of water realizes that the Earth would NO LONGER be here if that account was factual. Sounds great on paper until you start calculating friction, pressure, depth, tectonic plate movements, etc...
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Pictures of the legendary wombat fish... [link to www.google.co.nz]
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Re: CHRISTIANS, please explain what happened to FISH during the Great Flood/Noah's Ark??
Ok, so how do we have salt and fresh water bodies? If the vast majority of water fall was FRESH it would have desalinated the oceans. Also, the Bible says that the tallest mountain was covered, so you are telling me that the water covered the Earth up to 30K feet (Himalayas)??? Please don't tell me that that range was created via hydraulicing, because that is NOT possible. Also, you realize that the sheer volume of rain that fell (friction), according to PHYSICS would have super heated the atmosphere and burned up the water...
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Oh, and one more thing. The sheer volume of water that fell would be approx 4-5 times MORE water than currently exists on the Planet Earth - where did it magically go???
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From the high hills to the mountain top it fell as snow, after the 40 days it too 5 months before the rocks were showing. The land area is 1/4 of the earth, if it rains 22 ft and all the water stays on the land it would drop the ocean level a whole 5ft 6in and then back again by the end of 360 days.

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Ok, so how do we have salt and fresh water bodies? If the vast majority of water fall was FRESH it would have desalinated the oceans. Also, the Bible says that the tallest mountain was covered, so you are telling me that the water covered the Earth up to 30K feet (Himalayas)??? Please don't tell me that that range was created via hydraulicing, because that is NOT possible. Also, you realize that the sheer volume of rain that fell (friction), according to PHYSICS would have super heated the atmosphere and burned up the water...
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Oh, and one more thing. The sheer volume of water that fell would be approx 4-5 times MORE water than currently exists on the Planet Earth - where did it magically go???
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From the high hills to the mountain top it fell as snow, after the 40 days it too 5 months before the rocks were showing. The land area is 1/4 of the earth, if it rains 22 ft and all the water stays on the land it would drop the ocean level a whole 5ft 6in and then back again by the end of 360 days.
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NOT, REPEAT NOT, possible. The friction of the h20 coming through the atmosphere, based on volume and rate would super heat the atmosphere... the Himalayas are 30K feet high. The account said it COVERED ALL THE MOUNTAINS. So basically the ENTIRE crust was 30K+ feet under water....!!!!!!!!
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Pictures of the legendary kangaroo fihs,
Note the long tail, ideal as a rudder in heavy seas.
[link to www.google.co.nz]
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Re: CHRISTIANS, please explain what happened to FISH during the Great Flood/Noah's Ark??
people find sea shells buried deep inside mountain ranges all the time, obviously the Ocean was up there at some point
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And last but not least pictures of the legendary convict fish pretending to work (the fins and tails are hidden by their clothing-typical Aussie deception)
[link to www.google.co.nz]
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you wont have your explanation, if their logic is not enough (believers logic's), someone will tell you the earth is hollow and the water come from within, if that ins't enough another one will say the earth is flat; or the water was espiritual; or the flood happens in mars etc etc
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Re: CHRISTIANS, please explain what happened to FISH during the Great Flood/Noah's Ark??
a few crib notes: we have fossilized tools no older than a few hundred years old, but we do not have modern examples of fossilized fish... and there are examples of fossilized fish with other fish in their mouths...

implying, like with the mammoths in Russia w grass frozen in their mouths that something happened quite rapidly to cover the fish (fish decay quickly)

according to Veith, there is lots of evidence that many of the fossils we currently have were made in a flood catastrophe, but it is dismissed...

also, there are no rivers in the world with more silt at the delta than a few thousand years worth--when dams are planned they measure silt in the river to ascertain viability, so they know what to expect and it is not there..

no trees with ring count more than around 5,000 years worth... anywhere in the world... carbon dating is faulty--see bbc doc on shroud of turin for more on why this is so... more crap science basically...

true science based on empirical evidence would support the bible... but typically you won't find it and careers get lost over this kind of issue...

:)
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Once again where did the water go, and once again you are saying that the flood was globally to the tune of 30K+ feet????? (Himalayas)...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018748


It came from here, it went back to here;

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Also, are you certain you know whats below the earths surface?
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Re: CHRISTIANS, please explain what happened to FISH during the Great Flood/Noah's Ark??
a few crib notes: we have fossilized tools no older than a few hundred years old, but we do not have modern examples of fossilized fish... and there are examples of fossilized fish with other fish in their mouths...

implying, like with the mammoths in Russia w grass frozen in their mouths that something happened quite rapidly to cover the fish (fish decay quickly)

according to Veith, there is lots of evidence that many of the fossils we currently have were made in a flood catastrophe, but it is dismissed...

also, there are no rivers in the world with more silt at the delta than a few thousand years worth--when dams are planned they measure silt in the river to ascertain viability, so they know what to expect and it is not there..

no trees with ring count more than around 5,000 years worth... anywhere in the world... carbon dating is faulty--see bbc doc on shroud of turin for more on why this is so... more crap science basically...

true science based on empirical evidence would support the bible... but typically you won't find it and careers get lost over this kind of issue...

:)
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Once again where did the water go, and once again you are saying that the flood was globally to the tune of 30K+ feet????? (Himalayas)...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018748


It came from here, it went back to here;

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Also, are you certain you know whats below the earths surface?
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Noctilucent clouds are not fully understood and are a recently-discovered meteorological phenomenon; there is no record of their observation before 1885.


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Re: CHRISTIANS, please explain what happened to FISH during the Great Flood/Noah's Ark??
a few crib notes: we have fossilized tools no older than a few hundred years old, but we do not have modern examples of fossilized fish... and there are examples of fossilized fish with other fish in their mouths...

implying, like with the mammoths in Russia w grass frozen in their mouths that something happened quite rapidly to cover the fish (fish decay quickly)

according to Veith, there is lots of evidence that many of the fossils we currently have were made in a flood catastrophe, but it is dismissed...

also, there are no rivers in the world with more silt at the delta than a few thousand years worth--when dams are planned they measure silt in the river to ascertain viability, so they know what to expect and it is not there..

no trees with ring count more than around 5,000 years worth... anywhere in the world... carbon dating is faulty--see bbc doc on shroud of turin for more on why this is so... more crap science basically...

true science based on empirical evidence would support the bible... but typically you won't find it and careers get lost over this kind of issue...

:)
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Once again where did the water go, and once again you are saying that the flood was globally to the tune of 30K+ feet????? (Himalayas)...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018748


It came from here, it went back to here;

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Also, are you certain you know whats below the earths surface?
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It ain't water or your crust would not be able to float over the mantle... jesus, 2 grade edumacation...
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Re: CHRISTIANS, please explain what happened to FISH during the Great Flood/Noah's Ark??
Fossils from the oceans floor have been found on the top of Mt Everest.
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Fossils from the oceans floor have been found on the top of Mt Everest.
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Yea, its called land displacement over BILLIONS of years wherein land rises and falls, what was once an ocean floor is now a mountain. To imply it was a flood that covered the ENTIRE globe 30K+ feet in depth is plain ass STUPID!!!!!! derp, derp...
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Re: CHRISTIANS, please explain what happened to FISH during the Great Flood/Noah's Ark??
GENESIS7:21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth

GENESIS7:22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
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well let me think here for a second, Im not sure if I can grasp this or not, I did not think fish moved upon the earth, they move in the sea. And again Im not quite sure, Im not a scientist, but I did not believe fish had nostrils. Don't they breathe through gills? And for the last part of this since when did fish live on dry land?another do
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GENESIS7:21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth

GENESIS7:22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
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well let me think here for a second, Im not sure if I can grasp this or not, I did not think fish moved upon the earth, they move in the sea. And again Im not quite sure, Im not a scientist, but I did not believe fish had nostrils. Don't they breathe through gills? And for the last part of this since when did fish live on dry land?another do
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Desalination my friend and vice versa... come now, use your brain...
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Re: CHRISTIANS, please explain what happened to FISH during the Great Flood/Noah's Ark??
a few crib notes: we have fossilized tools no older than a few hundred years old, but we do not have modern examples of fossilized fish... and there are examples of fossilized fish with other fish in their mouths...

implying, like with the mammoths in Russia w grass frozen in their mouths that something happened quite rapidly to cover the fish (fish decay quickly)

according to Veith, there is lots of evidence that many of the fossils we currently have were made in a flood catastrophe, but it is dismissed...

also, there are no rivers in the world with more silt at the delta than a few thousand years worth--when dams are planned they measure silt in the river to ascertain viability, so they know what to expect and it is not there..

no trees with ring count more than around 5,000 years worth... anywhere in the world... carbon dating is faulty--see bbc doc on shroud of turin for more on why this is so... more crap science basically...

true science based on empirical evidence would support the bible... but typically you won't find it and careers get lost over this kind of issue...

:)
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Once again where did the water go, and once again you are saying that the flood was globally to the tune of 30K+ feet????? (Himalayas)...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018748


It came from here, it went back to here;

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Also, are you certain you know whats below the earths surface?
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It ain't water or your crust would not be able to float over the mantle... jesus, 2 grade edumacation...
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You've heard of aquifers genius? You know how much water they hold hotshot? You do remember the whirlpool in japan after the 3/11 quake/tsunami?



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Re: CHRISTIANS, please explain what happened to FISH during the Great Flood/Noah's Ark??
NOT, REPEAT NOT, possible. The friction of the h20 coming through the atmosphere, based on volume and rate would super heat the atmosphere... the Himalayas are 30K feet high. The account said it COVERED ALL THE MOUNTAINS. So basically the ENTIRE crust was 30K+ feet under water....!!!!!!!!
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What?? All the water on earth has been on earth since the 5th day ended, about 4M tears ago. It's form varies, when the ice was at it's greatest during the last ice-age the ocean's level was 450 ft lower than it is today, fish survived that change in salinity.

Ge:7:19:
And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth;
and all the high hills,
that were under the whole heaven,
were covered.
Ge:7:20:
Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail;
and the mountains were covered.

Any new water would have to be warmed up from deep space cold (-300C) You want how many cubic miles of new water?

15 cubits means it was ground hugging and that same height, high hills and mountains get rain as snow or as freezing rain (that would be awesome way to live in the ice, with fire this time)

Are you going to like it any better if I say the 360 days of the 'flood' was really 360,000 years and 40,000 of rain followed bi glaciers that were at the level, of the 'high hills' in those days and 18 inches is actually closer to 1.8 km. 150,000 years later the rocks could be seen for the first time and the rest took up the remainder of the years, ending about 2,500BC? Probably not so I better not mention that both were done cause God likes to do things that way in some cases.

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If you can't think outside of the box, you'll be stuck in it.
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Re: CHRISTIANS, please explain what happened to FISH during the Great Flood/Noah's Ark??
Did Noah bring fish aboard the Ark? Possibly barnacles were attached to the bottom of the boat, but what about sharks, dolphins, sea urchins and whales aboard his Ark? Or did they survive the flood?

Also, did he bring each variation of each species or did they evolve after the water subsided? Germs, viruses?

I can't just rely on faith here. God has given us brains to reason with...please explain!
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lol...
no need to save fish.
only above ground creatures
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Fish live in water dufus. Breathe oxygen form the water and shit in the water.


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Re: CHRISTIANS, please explain what happened to FISH during the Great Flood/Noah's Ark??
Seriously are you an idiot?

THE GREAT FLOOD....what do fish live in?

Watch out it's a trick question.

I wonder if fish could survive in high water... Could they still breathe?
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Re: CHRISTIANS, please explain what happened to FISH during the Great Flood/Noah's Ark??
Did Noah bring fish aboard the Ark? Possibly barnacles were attached to the bottom of the boat, but what about sharks, dolphins, sea urchins and whales aboard his Ark? Or did they survive the flood?

Also, did he bring each variation of each species or did they evolve after the water subsided? Germs, viruses?

I can't just rely on faith here. God has given us brains to reason with...please explain!
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Ya know, it's questions like this that supposedly got mankind into the trouble that led to the flood. Mankind asked for too much information, they were just supposed to tend the animals...........no questions asked. That knowledge is not for us, never was. The brain was pigchefnot for reasonable, logical thought. Silly goose!

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Re: CHRISTIANS, please explain what happened to FISH during the Great Flood/Noah's Ark??
Did Noah bring fish aboard the Ark? Possibly barnacles were attached to the bottom of the boat, but what about sharks, dolphins, sea urchins and whales aboard his Ark? Or did they survive the flood?

Also, did he bring each variation of each species or did they evolve after the water subsided? Germs, viruses?

I can't just rely on faith here. God has given us brains to reason with...please explain!
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Ummm... Dummy... they just kept on swimming....

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