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JN DARBY AND THEOLOGIANS ARE WRONG, THE GRACE PERIOD WAS ESTABLISHED THE DAY THE FATHER REPENTED AND GAVE MERCY BACK TO ISRAEL

 
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JN DARBY AND THEOLOGIANS ARE WRONG, THE GRACE PERIOD WAS ESTABLISHED THE DAY THE FATHER REPENTED AND GAVE MERCY BACK TO ISRAEL
JN Darby is the gentile who created the bible dispensation of time. He has established this lie and this doctrine is the corner stone of christianity.
HIS DOCTRINE STATES THAT THE GRACE PERIOD STARTED WHEN PAUL THE APOSTLE WENT TO THE GENTILES

From the day the father announced to the prophets that he will restore his people in the end time that was the grace of the father towards his people in effect.

Your new testament teaches this very same thing. The grace for israel was given and no works was required because the father made this promise to the lost tribes an he cannot lie

I will prove that because christians take these vereses out of context and apply it to themselves and say his grace is sufficient and they don't need do works and follow no laws.
**WELL! NEWS FLASH THIS IS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE GENTILES THE PROMISE TO ISRAEL WAS NOT BECAUSE OF WORKS BUT THE GRACE AND A GIFT FROM THE FATHER**


I will show you that this was only applied to the lost sheep of Israel and the gentile nations became recipients of the promise because only because israel fell.The gentile nation have to comply with the standards set before Israel by messiah

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ROMANS CHAPTER 11


1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,

3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
1 Kings 19:10, 14

4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
1 Kings 19:18

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.Israel not the church


6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it[JUDAH], and the rest were blinded.

NOTE: ISRAEL WAS NOT IN ISRAEL BECAUSE THEY WERE CAST OUT 2ND KINGS CHP 17 VERSE 17 SO THEY WERE NOT THERE TO SEE THE COMING OF MESSIAH. THE ELECT MEANING JUDAH WAS THERE TO RECIEVE THE WORD

WHO IS THE ELECT?
For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
Isa 29:10


9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
Psa 69:22

10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
Psa 69:23

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?


13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.

15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

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For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Isa 59:20

27
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Isa 59:21

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief,

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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GRACE RESTORED TO ISRAEL BECAUSE THE FATHER REPENTED FOR CASTING THEM AWAY AS HIS PEOPLE AND HE REMEMBERED THE COVENANT HE MADE WITH THEM
M,JJK,J
Psalms 106:45

40 Therefore was the wrath of the LORD kindled against his people, insomuch that he abhorred his own inheritance.

41 And he gave them into the hand of the heathen; and they that hated them ruled over them.

42 Their enemies also oppressed them, and they were brought into subjection under their hand.

43 Many times did he deliver them; but they provoked him with their counsel, and were brought low for their iniquity.

44 Nevertheless he regarded their affliction, when he heard their cry:

45 And he remembered for them his covenant, and repented according to the multitude of his mercies.

46 He made them also to be pitied of all those that carried them captives.

47 Save us, O LORD our God, and gather us from among the heathen, to give thanks unto thy holy name, and to triumph in thy praise.

48 Blessed be the LORD God of Israel from everlasting to everlasting: and let all the people say, Amen. Praise ye the LORD.

M,JJK,J

PAUL THE APOSTLE CONFIRMED THIS IN ROMANS CHAPTER 11

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/13/2012 09:52 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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I know it really hurts this one person who just have to read the truth and he keeps up with the one star.I am glad it is getting to you, one day the word will break you and you will be saved
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Thats right!
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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11 And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food, but nevertheless
12 hunger and thirst, and cause offences. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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9 And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones
To execute judgement upon all,
And to destroy all the ungodly:

And to convict all flesh
Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed,
And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Romans 11 says Israel was not cast away IF they accept Jesus like anyone else.

Grace is what is given to anyone who repents of sin. The wages of sin is death but that we have grace, if you believe in Jesus.

DARBY was a Jesuit. Grace was probably the only thing he was right about.
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Romans 11 says Israel was not cast away IF they accept Jesus like anyone else.

Grace is what is given to anyone who repents of sin. The wages of sin is death but that we have grace, if you believe in Jesus.

DARBY was a Jesuit. Grace was probably the only thing he was right about.
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You read it but you still dont get or see the deeper meaning of the scripture

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/16/2012 05:02 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Romans 11 says Israel was not cast away IF they accept Jesus like anyone else.
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Numbers 15:29 But anyone who sins defiantly, whether native-born or alien, blasphemes the LORD, and that person must be cut off from his people.
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Romans 11 says Israel was not cast away IF they accept Jesus like anyone else.
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Numbers 15:29 But anyone who sins defiantly, whether native-born or alien, blasphemes the LORD, and that person must be cut off from his people.
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Gal.3:16,28,29 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.....There is neither jewish nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you be Christ's, then are you Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

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