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Did the feminist ideology came from Communism?

 
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I think the women should work if they want to but not to be bitches about it and not try to be men either.
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Re: Did the feminist ideology came from Communism?
feminism came from women wanting to vote.
you know, like people.

i am a feminist and also a housewife.
wake out of your stereotypical worldview
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Oh because women were not considered people before feminism? Okay I suggest a history book.
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Yes, that's true. Women are nothing without women's liberation.

Gloria Steinem is my hero. I'm glad she worked with the CIA to help women in the united states.
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If you think women were helped....

God help you
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THIS ^^^


I can't tell if the OP is just some clueless and hopeless dolt, or if she is just another scum-sucking shill, trying to see if anyone will buy this horseshit!

The OP is either:

1) Dumb as a fencepost

Or...

2) A lowlife bullshit salesman (AKA shill)
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Oh because women were not considered people before feminism? Okay I suggest a history book.
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we couldn't vote, is my point
learn some history
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When women could not vote, that was a good thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27211004


Acually when nobody could vote, that was a good thing, as long as the ruler was godly.
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so you want to be dominated by a godly ruler
that can be arranged.
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But I also think that if women want to be stay at home it shouldn't be shunned. The feminists are taking on the borg mind. Stop gossiping and mind your own business bitches.
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Re: Did the feminist ideology came from Communism?
First you say feminism is communist then you say you are a feminist. So you are a communist. Right from the hoarse's mouth.
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Exactly. Because she (or more likely he) is using a lot of shill-like communist tactics on this thread.

There's NO doubt that the OP adores communism.
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Oh because women were not considered people before feminism? Okay I suggest a history book.
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we couldn't vote, is my point
learn some history
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When women could not vote, that was a good thing.
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for who?
 Quoting: pink cat


For the overall health of civilization. bear in mind that voting is wrong to start. Its just when women are allowed to vote it get even more worser.
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Oh because women were not considered people before feminism? Okay I suggest a history book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9643001


Yes, that's true. Women are nothing without women's liberation.

Gloria Steinem is my hero. I'm glad she worked with the CIA to help women in the united states.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20895371


If you think women were helped....

God help you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


THIS ^^^


I can't tell if the OP is just some clueless and hopeless dolt, or if she is just another scum-sucking shill, trying to see if anyone will buy this horseshit!

The OP is either:

1) Dumb as a fencepost

Or...

2) A lowlife bullshit salesman (AKA shill)
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I vote for shill
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Oh because women were not considered people before feminism? Okay I suggest a history book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9643001


Yes, that's true. Women are nothing without women's liberation.

Gloria Steinem is my hero. I'm glad she worked with the CIA to help women in the united states.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20895371


If you think women were helped....

God help you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


THIS ^^^


I can't tell if the OP is just some clueless and hopeless dolt, or if she is just another scum-sucking shill, trying to see if anyone will buy this horseshit!

The OP is either:

1) Dumb as a fencepost

Or...

2) A lowlife bullshit salesman (AKA shill)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29822995


I agree. I was looking through the site and it seems the person has a good grasp on the NWO feminist dichotomy. I do not understand how the OP after reading, still thinks that feminism is a good thing.
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But I also think that if women want to be stay at home it shouldn't be shunned. The feminists are taking on the borg mind. Stop gossiping and mind your own business bitches.
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paranoid?
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Re: Did the feminist ideology came from Communism?
Here is everything you need to know when it comes to feminism, and it's REAL intended purpose is in AmeriKa:

[link to www.google.com]
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we couldn't vote, is my point
learn some history
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When women could not vote, that was a good thing.
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for who?
 Quoting: pink cat


For the overall health of civilization. bear in mind that voting is wrong to start. Its just when women are allowed to vote it get even more worser.
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for who?
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But I also think that if women want to be stay at home it shouldn't be shunned. The feminists are taking on the borg mind. Stop gossiping and mind your own business bitches.
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Feminists have always targeted the housewife. So it is a complete oxymoron to be a feminist and a housewife. As at the core of feminist propaganda is the destruction and the shunning of the housewife.

“[Housewives] are mindless and thing-hungry…not people. [Housework] is peculiarly suited to the capacities of feeble-minded girls. [It] arrests their development at an infantile level, short of personal identity with an inevitably weak core of self…. [Housewives] are in as much danger as the millions who walked to their own death in the concentration camps. [The] conditions which destroyed the human identity of so many prisoners were not the torture and brutality, but conditions similar to those which destroy the identity of the American housewife.” ~ Betty Friedan, The Feminine Mystique, 1963.

“A parasite sucking out the living strength of another organism…the [housewife's] labor does not even tend toward the creation of anything durable…. [W]oman’s work within the home [is] not directly useful to society, produces nothing. [The housewife] is subordinate, secondary, parasitic. It is for their common welfare that the situation must be altered by prohibiting marriage as a ‘career’ for woman.” ~ Simone de Beauvoir, The Second Sex, 1949.

“[A]s long as the family and the myth of the family and the myth of maternity and the maternal instinct are not destroyed, women will still be oppressed…. No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one. It is a way of forcing women in a certain direction.” ~ Simone de Beauvoir, “Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma,” Saturday Review, June 14, 1975.
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Re: Did the feminist ideology came from Communism?
ok, i'm done with this thread.
this is way too stupid.
i can't believe this is even a discussion.

cheers all.
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we couldn't vote, is my point
learn some history
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When women could not vote, that was a good thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27211004


Acually when nobody could vote, that was a good thing, as long as the ruler was godly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27211004


so you want to be dominated by a godly ruler
that can be arranged.
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Well satan thinks he is a godly ruler just as a feminist who is subject to and under the domminion of satan thinks she is a godly ruler.
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But I also think that if women want to be stay at home it shouldn't be shunned. The feminists are taking on the borg mind. Stop gossiping and mind your own business bitches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22741000


Feminists have always targeted the housewife. So it is a complete oxymoron to be a feminist and a housewife. As at the core of feminist propaganda is the destruction and the shunning of the housewife.

“[Housewives] are mindless and thing-hungry…not people. [Housework] is peculiarly suited to the capacities of feeble-minded girls. [It] arrests their development at an infantile level, short of personal identity with an inevitably weak core of self…. [Housewives] are in as much danger as the millions who walked to their own death in the concentration camps. [The] conditions which destroyed the human identity of so many prisoners were not the torture and brutality, but conditions similar to those which destroy the identity of the American housewife.” ~ Betty Friedan, The Feminine Mystique, 1963.

“A parasite sucking out the living strength of another organism…the [housewife's] labor does not even tend toward the creation of anything durable…. [W]oman’s work within the home [is] not directly useful to society, produces nothing. [The housewife] is subordinate, secondary, parasitic. It is for their common welfare that the situation must be altered by prohibiting marriage as a ‘career’ for woman.” ~ Simone de Beauvoir, The Second Sex, 1949.

“[A]s long as the family and the myth of the family and the myth of maternity and the maternal instinct are not destroyed, women will still be oppressed…. No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one. It is a way of forcing women in a certain direction.” ~ Simone de Beauvoir, “Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma,” Saturday Review, June 14, 1975.
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i am a feminist and a housewife. so your theory is faulty
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When women could not vote, that was a good thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27211004


Acually when nobody could vote, that was a good thing, as long as the ruler was godly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27211004


so you want to be dominated by a godly ruler
that can be arranged.
 Quoting: pink cat


Well satan thinks he is a godly ruler just as a feminist who is subject to and under the domminion of satan thinks she is a godly ruler.
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uhhh. sure

goodnight!
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When women could not vote, that was a good thing.
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for who?
 Quoting: pink cat


For the overall health of civilization. bear in mind that voting is wrong to start. Its just when women are allowed to vote it get even more worser.
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for who?
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For the overall health of civilization you silly.
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But I also think that if women want to be stay at home it shouldn't be shunned. The feminists are taking on the borg mind. Stop gossiping and mind your own business bitches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22741000


Feminists have always targeted the housewife. So it is a complete oxymoron to be a feminist and a housewife. As at the core of feminist propaganda is the destruction and the shunning of the housewife.

“[Housewives] are mindless and thing-hungry…not people. [Housework] is peculiarly suited to the capacities of feeble-minded girls. [It] arrests their development at an infantile level, short of personal identity with an inevitably weak core of self…. [Housewives] are in as much danger as the millions who walked to their own death in the concentration camps. [The] conditions which destroyed the human identity of so many prisoners were not the torture and brutality, but conditions similar to those which destroy the identity of the American housewife.” ~ Betty Friedan, The Feminine Mystique, 1963.

“A parasite sucking out the living strength of another organism…the [housewife's] labor does not even tend toward the creation of anything durable…. [W]oman’s work within the home [is] not directly useful to society, produces nothing. [The housewife] is subordinate, secondary, parasitic. It is for their common welfare that the situation must be altered by prohibiting marriage as a ‘career’ for woman.” ~ Simone de Beauvoir, The Second Sex, 1949.

“[A]s long as the family and the myth of the family and the myth of maternity and the maternal instinct are not destroyed, women will still be oppressed…. No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one. It is a way of forcing women in a certain direction.” ~ Simone de Beauvoir, “Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma,” Saturday Review, June 14, 1975.
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Who wrote this garbage??

and why did society fall prey to its stench??

"A parasite sucking out a living strength of another organism"?? my

gawd
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But I also think that if women want to be stay at home it shouldn't be shunned. The feminists are taking on the borg mind. Stop gossiping and mind your own business bitches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22741000


Feminists have always targeted the housewife. So it is a complete oxymoron to be a feminist and a housewife. As at the core of feminist propaganda is the destruction and the shunning of the housewife.

“[Housewives] are mindless and thing-hungry…not people. [Housework] is peculiarly suited to the capacities of feeble-minded girls. [It] arrests their development at an infantile level, short of personal identity with an inevitably weak core of self…. [Housewives] are in as much danger as the millions who walked to their own death in the concentration camps. [The] conditions which destroyed the human identity of so many prisoners were not the torture and brutality, but conditions similar to those which destroy the identity of the American housewife.” ~ Betty Friedan, The Feminine Mystique, 1963.

“A parasite sucking out the living strength of another organism…the [housewife's] labor does not even tend toward the creation of anything durable…. [W]oman’s work within the home [is] not directly useful to society, produces nothing. [The housewife] is subordinate, secondary, parasitic. It is for their common welfare that the situation must be altered by prohibiting marriage as a ‘career’ for woman.” ~ Simone de Beauvoir, The Second Sex, 1949.

“[A]s long as the family and the myth of the family and the myth of maternity and the maternal instinct are not destroyed, women will still be oppressed…. No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one. It is a way of forcing women in a certain direction.” ~ Simone de Beauvoir, “Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma,” Saturday Review, June 14, 1975.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9643001


Who wrote this garbage??

and why did society fall prey to its stench??

"A parasite sucking out a living strength of another organism"?? my

gawd
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Sheep fall for it. Sheep who have forsaken their true sheppard and sold their souls fot shiny crap.
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But I also think that if women want to be stay at home it shouldn't be shunned. The feminists are taking on the borg mind. Stop gossiping and mind your own business bitches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22741000


Feminists have always targeted the housewife. So it is a complete oxymoron to be a feminist and a housewife. As at the core of feminist propaganda is the destruction and the shunning of the housewife.

“[Housewives] are mindless and thing-hungry…not people. [Housework] is peculiarly suited to the capacities of feeble-minded girls. [It] arrests their development at an infantile level, short of personal identity with an inevitably weak core of self…. [Housewives] are in as much danger as the millions who walked to their own death in the concentration camps. [The] conditions which destroyed the human identity of so many prisoners were not the torture and brutality, but conditions similar to those which destroy the identity of the American housewife.” ~ Betty Friedan, The Feminine Mystique, 1963.

“A parasite sucking out the living strength of another organism…the [housewife's] labor does not even tend toward the creation of anything durable…. [W]oman’s work within the home [is] not directly useful to society, produces nothing. [The housewife] is subordinate, secondary, parasitic. It is for their common welfare that the situation must be altered by prohibiting marriage as a ‘career’ for woman.” ~ Simone de Beauvoir, The Second Sex, 1949.

“[A]s long as the family and the myth of the family and the myth of maternity and the maternal instinct are not destroyed, women will still be oppressed…. No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one. It is a way of forcing women in a certain direction.” ~ Simone de Beauvoir, “Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma,” Saturday Review, June 14, 1975.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9643001


Who wrote this garbage??

and why did society fall prey to its stench??

"A parasite sucking out a living strength of another organism"?? my

gawd
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


Sheep fall for it. Sheep who have forsaken their true sheppard and sold their souls fot shiny crap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27211004


My my my

poor sheep

I look at my own parents ; married almost 60 years

They love and respect each other

my father would never look at mother in this light.


WHat evil ; distorted , poor warped lonely soul wrote that garbage.

Sad

I hope the militant femo -nazi finds a true and lasting love and

understands how truly f-d up this is....
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Love and respect are strong in the human spirit

you will never kill these out of society

any society

A society lost will always work to reset itself back to a better place after attempts to drive it into

the pit of evil darkness and chaos

for shame
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Feminists have always targeted the housewife. So it is a complete oxymoron to be a feminist and a housewife. As at the core of feminist propaganda is the destruction and the shunning of the housewife.

“[Housewives] are mindless and thing-hungry…not people. [Housework] is peculiarly suited to the capacities of feeble-minded girls. [It] arrests their development at an infantile level, short of personal identity with an inevitably weak core of self…. [Housewives] are in as much danger as the millions who walked to their own death in the concentration camps. [The] conditions which destroyed the human identity of so many prisoners were not the torture and brutality, but conditions similar to those which destroy the identity of the American housewife.” ~ Betty Friedan, The Feminine Mystique, 1963.

“A parasite sucking out the living strength of another organism…the [housewife's] labor does not even tend toward the creation of anything durable…. [W]oman’s work within the home [is] not directly useful to society, produces nothing. [The housewife] is subordinate, secondary, parasitic. It is for their common welfare that the situation must be altered by prohibiting marriage as a ‘career’ for woman.” ~ Simone de Beauvoir, The Second Sex, 1949.

“[A]s long as the family and the myth of the family and the myth of maternity and the maternal instinct are not destroyed, women will still be oppressed…. No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one. It is a way of forcing women in a certain direction.” ~ Simone de Beauvoir, “Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma,” Saturday Review, June 14, 1975.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9643001


Who wrote this garbage??

and why did society fall prey to its stench??

"A parasite sucking out a living strength of another organism"?? my

gawd
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


Sheep fall for it. Sheep who have forsaken their true sheppard and sold their souls fot shiny crap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27211004


My my my

poor sheep

I look at my own parents ; married almost 60 years

They love and respect each other

my father would never look at mother in this light.


WHat evil ; distorted , poor warped lonely soul wrote that garbage.

Sad

I hope the militant femo -nazi finds a true and lasting love and

understands how truly f-d up this is....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29134382


These are not even considered radical feminists. Betty Friedan and Simone de Beauvoir, are actually moderates. Here it is ladies and gentlemen, this is what feminism is about.
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Re: Did the feminist ideology came from Communism?
While it may me true that feminist ideology came from communism, i have to say that feminism did wonders for the capitalism, mostly for these reasons:

- More people willing to work, which means lower wages and less bargaining power for the working class;

- More consumerism, since feminism gave to 50% of the population the power to buy whatever they want (Before feminism cosumerism did not exist);

- More taxes for the governments, due to increase of the income of the families and of the companies;

- Creation of new kinds of products, services and industries to please the women.

- Values being taught to children by schools and media (like consumerism, being highly competitive and stuff that beneficit capitalism), not by their parents, since they need to work. It means easier indoctrination by the capitalist governments;

- Huge inflation of everything, beforem feminism, for example, housing prices were calculated based on the income of only one person, now considers the couple's income. Before feminism a worker father could support a whole family with more than 10 children, nowadays it is difficult to raise a child alone.
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I was reading this interesting article on the Soviet Union and how Vladimir Lenin was one of the biggest feminists.

Here is the link
[link to femininemystiquetwra.wordpress.com]

I'm a feminist but i don't like the idea that Lenin was such a feminist as well.
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You mean you are JUST NOW realizing that feminism is Socialism/Communism, and intended to DESTROY the family and culture?

Wow. This world truly IS chocked full of absolute morons.

Gee whizzz... I was a just a kid in the 70's, and I ALREADY knew this! LOL...
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I agree with you. The author of this thread really needs to read up on the evils of feminism and what it entails.
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Oh you should read up on the 42 million jobs men lost cause their fat ass sat in front of the screen watching "the game" and forgot that IT WAS THEIR OWN JOBS THEY LET GO OF.

Oh the evil of a self supporting woman who is now the families main income.

You suckers will buy what ever your told.

Men destroyed their own way.
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"I would like to think this is the case, as I did vote Communist in the last presidential election, and am now somewhat ashamed of it and am currently trying to become a born-again Libertarian. I am also MTF transgendered, and therefore have a right to not like most women and especially feminists. If feminists like Gloria Steinem and the rest of them are going to hate me, and other memebers of the LGBT community, I am going to hate them right back!!! Until they can accept transgender women as equal to them, I believe a state of WAR will continue to exist between us!!!!"
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Re: Did the feminist ideology came from Communism?
I was reading this interesting article on the Soviet Union and how Vladimir Lenin was one of the biggest feminists.

Here is the link
[link to femininemystiquetwra.wordpress.com]

I'm a feminist but i don't like the idea that Lenin was such a feminist as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20895371


You mean you are JUST NOW realizing that feminism is Socialism/Communism, and intended to DESTROY the family and culture?

Wow. This world truly IS chocked full of absolute morons.

Gee whizzz... I was a just a kid in the 70's, and I ALREADY knew this! LOL...
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Even if the so called elites created the feminist movement, their intentions were good.

They wanted women to get out the house and have careers.

What's wrong with that?

The housewife is nothing but a nasty parasite. They are lazy and should be forced to work.
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demographics get screwed with, you have less babies and your civilisation dies off.
not so bad ay?
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I could be wrong but I think it started out innocently (kind of give women a break kind of deal), but it was taken over by the left who hated the idea that the average man had a resource at his disposal that the state couldn't control and who didn't work for them.
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A housewife is just this

holding down the fort and working at home to keep it all in order and making certain the tots are ok.

Communists don't like housewives simply because one cannot TAX their work and make

$$$ off their work



this is how it all boils down to in the pot

cant tax and spend a good portion of public sector work

I wasn't born yesterday chuckle

you want to know what makes it all Tick ??

follow the $$$$$
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That's it. Why have someone work for them when they could work for us, logic.

That is why those of the left embrace and support misogynist religions, they never really cared for women or women's issues all along, it was just another means to an end..... Big brother.

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