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“Now it has become more than a case about the drawings: Now there are forces that wants a confrontation between our cultures,”
Anger grows in Mideast
'Enough is enough,' Danish minister says
Feb. 5, 2006. 03:39 PM
ZEINA KARAM
ASSOCIATED PRESS


BEIRUT - Thousands of Muslims rampaged Sunday in Beirut, setting fire to the Danish Embassy, burning Danish flags and lobbing stones at a Maronite Catholic church as violent protests over caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad spread from neighbouring Syria.
Troops fired bullets into the air and used tear gas and water cannons to push the crowds back after a small group of Islamic extremists tried to break through the security barrier outside the embassy. Flames and smoke billowed from the building. Security officials said at least 30 people were injured.

The Danish Foreign Ministry urged Danes to leave Lebanon as soon as possible, while Danes and Norwegians heeded a similar call in Syria, where violent protests broke out on Saturday.

“It is a critical situation and it is very serious,” Danish Foreign Minister Per Stig Moeller said Sunday on Danish public radio.

Protesters also took to the streets by the thousands elsewhere in the Muslim world, a day after demonstrators in Syria charged security barriers outside the Danish and Norwegian embassies in Damascus and sent the buildings up in flames.

Those attacks earned widespread condemnation from European countries and the U.S., which accused the Syrian government of backing the protests.

The Danish foreign minister said: “enough is enough.”

“Now it has become more than a case about the drawings: Now there are forces that wants a confrontation between our cultures,” Moeller said. “It is in no one’s interest, neither them or us.”

Syria blamed Denmark for the protests, criticizing the Scandinavian country for refusing to apologize for the caricatures of Islam’s holiest figure.

“(Denmark’s) government was able to avoid reaching this point ... simply through an apology” as requested by Arab and Muslim diplomats, state-run daily Al-Thawra said in an editorial Sunday.

“It is unjustifiable under any kind of personal freedoms to allow a person or a group to insult the beliefs of millions of Muslims,” the paper said.

Anger has broken out across the Muslim world over 12 caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad that were first published in Denmark’s Jyllands-Posten in September and reprinted in European media and New Zealand in the past week.

One depicted the prophet wearing a turban shaped as a bomb with a burning fuse. The paper said it had asked cartoonists to draw the pictures because the media was practicing self-censorship when it came to Muslim issues.

The drawings have touched a raw nerve in part because Islamic law is interpreted to forbid any depictions of the Prophet Muhammad for fear they could lead to idolatry.

Denmark’s Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen has said he personally disapproves of the caricatures and any attacks on religion — but insisted he cannot apologize on behalf of his country’s independent press.

Iraqi Transport Minister Salam al-Maliki said his country has decided to cancel its contracts with Danish firms and reject any offers of reconstruction money from Copenhagen to protest the publication of the caricatures. The government had issued no official statement and the value of the transportation contracts was not available.

Iran also said it has recalled its ambassador to Denmark amid the controversy.

“Insulting the prophet was unacceptable, resentful, and a sign of barbarism,” Iran’s Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi said, adding that Tehran planned to take further action.

Syria, Saudi Arabia and Libya have also recalled their ambassadors to Copenhagen in condemnation of the caricatures.

Lebanon’s Grand Mufti Mohammed Rashid Kabbani denounced the violence and appealed for calm, accusing infiltrators of sowing the dissent to “harm the stability of Lebanon.”

Lebanon’s President Emile Lahoud denounced the violence, saying: ``National unity should remain protected and consolidated.” He warned against attempts to destabilize the country, and his government called for an emergency cabinet meeting later Sunday.

In Beirut, protesters came by the busloads to rally outside the Danish Embassy, where they chanted, “There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the messenger of God!” Some 2,000 troops and riot police were deployed.

A security official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the press, said staff at the Danish Embassy had been evacuated two days ago.

The trouble threatened to rile sectarian tensions in Beirut when protesters began stoning St. Maroun Church, one of the city’s main Maronite Catholic churches, and property in Ashrafieh, a Christian area. Sectarian tension is a sensitive issue in Lebanon, where Muslims and Christian fought a 15-year civil war that ended in 1990.

In the Afghan city of Mihtarlam, some 3,000 demonstrators burned a Danish flag and demanded that the editors at the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten be prosecuted for blasphemy, Governor Sher Mohammed Safi said.

Some 1,000 people tried to march to the offices of the United Nations and other aid groups in Fayzabad. Police fired shots into the air to disperse them, officials said. Nobody was hurt.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai expressed anger over the cartoons but said Danish troops and other citizens should feel safe in his country.

“It’s not the responsibility of Danish troops, it’s not the responsibility of Danish government, it’s the free media. ... We must not hold the troops who are serving in Afghanistan responsible for this,” he said Sunday on CNN’s Late Edition.

In the West Bank city of Ramallah, students in uniform — age 13 and even younger — carried protest posters and shouted: “No to offending our prophet.” Dozens of Palestinian gunmen also defaced the entrance to a French learning centre and attacked a man who tried to protect the closed building in Nablus.

In Iraq, about 1,000 Sunni Muslims demonstrated outside a mosque in the insurgent stronghold of Ramadi. A giant banner read: “Iraq must end political, diplomatic, cultural and economic relations with the European countries that supported the Danish insult against Prophet Muhammad and all Muslims.”

Another 1,000 supporters of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr rallied in Amarah, denouncing Denmark, Israel and the United States and demanding that Danish and Norwegian diplomats be expelled.

More than 700 Muslims marched through Auckland, New Zealand’s largest city, to protest the cartoons’ publication in two New Zealand newspapers.

[link to www.thestar.com]
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02/05/2006 04:31 PM
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duh......
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What if Jesus was sent-up in that fashion - derided in another culture. How many Christians would go howling about it?


Motto- It's alright for Americans to do that to other people, but not all right when other people to do it.


poop Prick the ego.
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02/05/2006 05:33 PM
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basicly our problem is that journalists who offened Mohamet are on our sides of terytory and the law and we must now charge them what they done if not we all will be charged that we didnt charge them .
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02/05/2006 05:37 PM
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No fucking way Tomek!

Fuck em!

If they want a battle, they'll get a battle!

Either that, or fuck off back to the countries they FLED!

I'm still of the opinion this is all a major set up though!
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neti, yeah, "the American freedom and democracy" only works for America.
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02/05/2006 06:00 PM
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Right on 62398.
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02/05/2006 06:03 PM
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Re: “Now it has become more than a case about the drawings: Now there are forces that wants a confrontation between our cultures,”
Well, you cant say God doesnt work in mysterious ways. lol

We should never surrender our freedom to express ourselves. If the minority of the muslim world get upset by those cartoons, then that minority are not true muslims, they have hijacked a religion to serve a political cause. In the eyes of God, thats more blasphemy than a few cartoons drawn by some free people in Europe, who have the God given right to express themselves in any way shape or form.

Freedom of expression and freedom of speech should not be hijacked by religious fundamentalists who want to change our way of life.

As Churchill once said "We shall never surrender!"
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02/05/2006 06:08 PM
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has anyone here on glp even seen the comic strips in question??

i can remember my motherr always saying, "stick and stones will break my bones, but names and drawings will never hurt me".

is there a link, please??
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02/05/2006 06:19 PM
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[link to 64.246.44.90]
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02/05/2006 06:28 PM
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Jesus and God are always sent up in the western world...i mean just look at southpark.
Islam needs to learn the value of laughter...
God is laughter...just ask the buddha.
They are just a bunch of oppressed cranky people, all religious extremes main aim is to suppress our natural instincts.
Oh well looks like the majority are still full of hate...will get a war after all...and it's both sides being the aggressors
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Remember when some pissy-assed artist painted a picture of Jesus on an upside-down crucifix and set in a glass of pee, and it was on display in a museum?

Christians protested, but didn't riot and burn down the museum or any other building.
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how do psyops work
do all you can to anger and enrage a group, hoping they will react violently

then use that violence as an excuse to attack them

it's right out of the warfare playbook
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bluestar
well said couldn't agree more
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Iran also said it has recalled its ambassador to Denmark amid the controversy.

“Insulting the prophet was unacceptable, resentful, and a sign of barbarism,” Iran’s Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi said, adding that Tehran planned to take further action

Now that is quite ironic calling a cartoon resentful, and a sign of barbarism, but suicide bombers and beheadings are civilized? Ohmy how backwards the mentality is anymore.
No they didn't say suicide bombers and beheadings were civilized, but they also don't protest it and call it barbaric now do they.
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02/06/2006 03:18 PM
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OP, that might have been true if the U.S.A. had a "culture".In point of fact it is the enemy of ALL cultures.
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02/06/2006 03:24 PM
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Those towelheads over there act like supressed animals that just got out of their cages and are fighting for food. Who cares about a stupid cartoon, anyway? Geez.
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What if Jesus was sent-up in that fashion - derided in another culture. How many Christians would go howling about it?


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neti - are you not aware that islamic papers are chock full of anti jewish and christian cartoons.
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There can't be a "confrontation between our cultures", since the Mohammedans don't have anything that could reasonably be called a "culture". A confrontation between human beings and lower animals, yes.
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02/06/2006 03:35 PM
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here's some great cartoons.
[link to www.drawmohammed.com]
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283...if you learn the art of compassion perhaps you wouldn't be the animal you think you are.
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I probably should feel "compassion" for Monty, but it's hard to feel "compassion" when you're sick at your stomach...
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The nations are ancient and they have rich cultures. Stop being lead around by the nose by Fox.
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if somone thisnk I started this thread it was not me , somtimes I,m using t but it was not me .
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The nations are ancient and they have rich cultures. Stop being lead around by the nose by Fox.


No actualy they are all shitholes, with thier people desperate to come and live in the west.
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02/06/2006 03:57 PM
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To Christians, Muslims and Jews: KNOCK IT OFF!!!

If you want to know who the REAL bad guys are, look for the instigators. Do some research on the following:

PNAC (Project for a New American Century)

"clash of civilizations"

Leo Strauss

Hegelian dialectic


The REAL BAD GUYS are doing this almost openly... they are practically in our faces. Just read their own PNAC policy paper. And look at the slimey characters that signed on to this...

cheers

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