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Newborn Seized Because Mom Questioned Necessity of Vaccination

 
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Don't have babies in government buildings anymore. It is too dangerous.
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Another child legally kidnapped by the state.

I got one thing to say to you social workers. when the shit hits the fan you mother fuckers better disappear into thin air.
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Social workers =scum of the earth. They are demons.
 Quoting: Doomamatrix


They will pay in Hell.
Eu não me importo se isso machuca,
Eu quero ter o controle,
Eu quero um corpo perfeito,
Eu quero uma alma perfeita.
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Another child legally kidnapped by the state.

I got one thing to say to you social workers. when the shit hits the fan you mother fuckers better disappear into thin air.
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DAMN STRAIGHT!!!
Eu não me importo se isso machuca,
Eu quero ter o controle,
Eu quero um corpo perfeito,
Eu quero uma alma perfeita.
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I didn't see if Annie was vaccinated against the will of her parents; anyone know?
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Social workers =scum of the earth. They are demons.
 Quoting: Doomamatrix


Dont be such an ignorant fool.... and what are you, some angel?
 Quoting: AstroChicken


Sorry dick...Social workers are pieces of shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28353201


Typical knee-jerk response. Attack the front line workers.
Social workers are like soldiers, they have to follow orders from on high, or they will loose their jobs. People go into social work in the first place, because they want to help people. They have a caring mind-set.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7554855


I'm sorry, but I must disagree. Most of the tenured social workers I have dealt with are busy-bodies on power trips. Sure, it starts at the top, with people who have realized that the best way to remain employed and avoid conflict is to bow to the supremacy of the state, but it flows downhill. The bureaucrats at the top hire people under them who think alike so they don't have to worry about anyone upsetting any apple carts and it extends down from there.

Some of them will tell you that they stay with it because they believe they are bringing about change, but anybody with any conscience at all will be conflicted almost immediately and only stay in that system long enough to find employment elsewhere. All it will take is one experience with how it is to actually stand up for an individual's rights and they will depart post haste.
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HERSHEY, PA -- A new mother refused to inject her hours old infant with an STD vaccine developed for adults. A social worker was then sent to her hospital room where she was interrogated about why she preferred natural health care treatments. When her answers weren't satisfactory to the social worker, a uniformed police officer came to assist in seizing the infant from its mother.

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 Quoting: Chop's


STD vaccine? I just read that it was Hepatitis B . I thought everyone got that.
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Dont be such an ignorant fool.... and what are you, some angel?
 Quoting: AstroChicken


Sorry dick...Social workers are pieces of shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28353201


Typical knee-jerk response. Attack the front line workers.
Social workers are like soldiers, they have to follow orders from on high, or they will loose their jobs. People go into social work in the first place, because they want to help people. They have a caring mind-set.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7554855


I'm sorry, but I must disagree. Most of the tenured social workers I have dealt with are busy-bodies on power trips. Sure, it starts at the top, with people who have realized that the best way to remain employed and avoid conflict is to bow to the supremacy of the state, but it flows downhill. The bureaucrats at the top hire people under them who think alike so they don't have to worry about anyone upsetting any apple carts and it extends down from there.

Some of them will tell you that they stay with it because they believe they are bringing about change, but anybody with any conscience at all will be conflicted almost immediately and only stay in that system long enough to find employment elsewhere. All it will take is one experience with how it is to actually stand up for an individual's rights and they will depart post haste.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee

Well stated.
Eu não me importo se isso machuca,
Eu quero ter o controle,
Eu quero um corpo perfeito,
Eu quero uma alma perfeita.
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I didn't see if Annie was vaccinated against the will of her parents; anyone know?
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If it was against the parent's/child's will, then that is definitely felonious assault.
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STD vaccine for newborn? WTF??

The simple answer is that if you don't want your baby to be filled with mercury and adjuvants, you had better plan on a home birth. Vaccinations is what hospitals and doctors and nurses do.

After home birth comes home schooling so they won't fill his mind with shit.
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Social Workers, like cops, and like lawyers, are trained to twist anything you say into something bad (or at least bad in a collective mind of the blindly submissive society). The minute they started hasseling her about it she should have called her own attorney...

Believe me, it's money well spent. Cheaper to nip it in the bud right there than to have to take it to court later...

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 12/14/2012 10:40 AM
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Don't have babies in government buildings anymore. It is too dangerous.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 825890


^^^This Too^^^

Home birth with a trained midwife is a perfectly acceptable option in a normal pregnancy...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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Re: Newborn Seized Because Mom Questioned Necessity of Vaccination
I didn't see if Annie was vaccinated against the will of her parents; anyone know?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3777004


If it was against the parent's/child's will, then that is definitely felonious assault.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29710683


that's what I thought too but ya' never know considering how this situation was handled.

I hope they didn't even if it means a buncha $$$ for the parents. If it was my child I wuld insist on looking at all paperwork for my child to be sure; I don't trust big bro at all.
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In a perfect world they would return the baby, post haste, then promptly fire the social worker and bring her up on charges for kidnapping...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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Re: Newborn Seized Because Mom Questioned Necessity of Vaccination
I didn't see if Annie was vaccinated against the will of her parents; anyone know?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3777004


If it was against the parent's/child's will, then that is definitely felonious assault.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29710683


that's what I thought too but ya' never know considering how this situation was handled.

I hope they didn't even if it means a buncha $$$ for the parents. If it was my child I wuld insist on looking at all paperwork for my child to be sure; I don't trust big bro at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3777004


You take my kid and paperwork is the last thing they should be concerned about.
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Where is the father? Oh that was her first fuck up.

There is no law that mandates vaccination. When you are dealing with a cop trying to ilegally take your child, you kill. It is simple. Because that woman was weak and stupid, her genetic lineage is destroyed forever. Survival of the fittest.

I told the nurses for all three of my kids that if any shots got near my kids I would hold them personally responsible. Their eyes got big as shit but they didn't fuck around either. I guarded my babies every second until we got early release.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24336774



What hick ass town do you live in where mom happens to be carrying right after pushing a watermelon thru her vajayjay?

Or that Uncle Jesse happened to be standing right by her with a sawed off shotgun?

Hazard county? Birthing and happy hour at the same place?
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Social workers =scum of the earth. They are demons.
 Quoting: Doomamatrix


Dont be such an ignorant fool.... and what are you, some angel?
 Quoting: AstroChicken


I've worked with them. All are beyond evil.
 Quoting: Doomamatrix


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This will only encourage more women to have their children at home.
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I was just thinking the same. Thank heaven my youngest is now 25! We always had private pediatricians and specialists for her. And because I am a physician too, they would listen to, and discuss my preferences, etc. I would not allow them to use the combined vaccines on her and insisted that they special order the killed virus single disease versions that were much safer back then. Given that she's testing out with an IQ of 151 and her SAT's got her several scholarship offers, I guess we didn't destroy too many brain cells. Of course 25 years back they didn't have the crap in vaccines that they do today - and the earlier versions of single-disease vaccines may not even be available today at any price.

I'd be willing to bet a good deal of money that this woman was on Medicaid, not in a private hospital, and wasn't articulate enough to intimidate some scum-of-the-earth "social worker" who decided "the mother's answers were not good enough". If the woman had only had brains enough to say she was going to "delay" the vaccinations until she and baby were discharged and she could discuss it with her private pediatrician - they would have backed off immediately. Or she could have called the ACLU and gotten legal representation down there immediately and the discussion about her child and the vaccinations would have ended then and there. The poor who don't know how the games are played in the medical world end up getting screwed over by the "system" that was put in place to avoid child neglect or abuse. Sadly now "neglect" is defined as NOT doing what some idiot hospital says you "must" do.

I hope some lawyer contacts this woman and she gets her baby back and then they file a lawsuit against the hospital, it's employees, and the PD who assisted in this outrageous and probably illegal behavior!


I couldn't have kids in this day and age. I would slaughter someone for sure.
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 Quoting: MarkinAZ


HSLDA stands for Home School Legal Defense Association and they ARE her legal representation. They win all the time and I think that her case is in good hands.
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Social workers =scum of the earth. They are demons.
 Quoting: Doomamatrix


Dont be such an ignorant fool.... and what are you, some angel?
 Quoting: AstroChicken


Sorry dick...Social workers are pieces of shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28353201


Most social workers are obese, former welfare kids of welfare queens who are barely employable. For many, social work is their only available profession, besides being a craigslist whore, because they don't need much training, they already know how the system works.
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Dont be such an ignorant fool.... and what are you, some angel?
 Quoting: AstroChicken


Sorry dick...Social workers are pieces of shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28353201


Typical knee-jerk response. Attack the front line workers.
Social workers are like soldiers, they have to follow orders from on high, or they will loose their jobs. People go into social work in the first place, because they want to help people. They have a caring mind-set.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7554855


I'm sorry, but I must disagree. Most of the tenured social workers I have dealt with are busy-bodies on power trips. Sure, it starts at the top, with people who have realized that the best way to remain employed and avoid conflict is to bow to the supremacy of the state, but it flows downhill. The bureaucrats at the top hire people under them who think alike so they don't have to worry about anyone upsetting any apple carts and it extends down from there.

Some of them will tell you that they stay with it because they believe they are bringing about change, but anybody with any conscience at all will be conflicted almost immediately and only stay in that system long enough to find employment elsewhere. All it will take is one experience with how it is to actually stand up for an individual's rights and they will depart post haste.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


I've known a couple of social workers so Im a little inclined to see both sides of it.

The 2 women I knew went into that line of work to help people and try to make their office look better by avoiding the shit we are reading about now. But they get caught up in the system and see enough fucked up shit that by the time they can make a difference, their original opinions have now been skewed because of the really terrible birthers out there. And they don't want to risk this being a case where they let the child go home and find out the baby was killed a while later.

Then there's the fucking busy body nosy bitches that have no power in real life and seek out these kind of jobs so they can push their half-brained opinions on others and feel like they are better than you. These are the kind I always want to see jump out in front of an 18 wheeler on a 90 mph freeway....
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I wander if she had signed the bc yet?
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yes this is important.. government has not jurisdiction over the little squirt until this signed over.
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When I researched DCF a while back .. for each child they permanently removed from a home in CT, they received 1.5 million dollars, grant for child care (not the child individually) ..

A guy in my town had a baby with his wife, came home, and all three of his children were take for projected neglect ..

The projected neglect, was anti-government views (chemtrails, don't tread on me, etc), an herbalist, agnostic, and a hoarder (but his home is clean) .. never ever hurt his children .. now he sits in the middle of town on a bench six years later .. his wife left him, and he preaches about the corrupt government, which he has all the right in the world too ..

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I must agree. My children, .20 months and 4 were administered nothing in the line of vaccines. The nursing staff let me know that I was doing my children harm by not letting them vaccinate. They got a " touch my child I will bury you". Its sad, doctors and nurses believe they know what's best for your child. No, no no! They don't! Would they vaccinate their own kids?
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Social workers =scum of the earth. They are demons.
 Quoting: Doomamatrix


yeah dude my mom is a social worker where she helps children overcome their grief from a lost loved one.

Mind your words next time you speak.
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Have your kids at home,
do not register them with the state.
Educate them yourself.
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These stories are covert conditioning since this "law" is too sloppy to enforce nation wide.

So they condition you to fear reprisal if you question vaccination.

Cheaper to trick us into submission versus physical enforcement being the driven fear inducing obedience.
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Social workers =scum of the earth. They are demons.
 Quoting: Doomamatrix


yeah dude my mom is a social worker where she helps children overcome their grief from a lost loved one.

Mind your words next time you speak.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2432308


Scum is scum.
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Unfortunately, the baby will already be Vaccinated with their poison when the mother gets it back. She could have an autistic child to raise fr the rest of her life. There are so many complications that could result from vaccinations, and still, big pharma convinces doctors and hospitals that they are necessary. If you are going to have a baby, you need to tell the hospital and doctor up front that you reject the shots on rligious grounds. By law, they can not ask about your religion. That makes it a safe reason to skip the poison injections.
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case dismissed
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The article says the judge is allowing the case to proceed.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


It was dismissed.


The next morning, a judge returned custody to Jodi and her husband. And two weeks later, he dismissed the case against them that the social worker had filed.


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