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Newborn Seized Because Mom Questioned Necessity of Vaccination

 
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This is what you get for questioning the "authority" and for having the audacity to have your own voice in medical decisions for your children: a social worker takes custody of an hours old newborn, while still in the hospital, and prevents her mother from seeing her other than to nurse her every 3 hours. All because she asked too many questions.

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Well, there are times I think the authorities should intervene.

I watched a man die because his family (Jehovah Witnesses) refused a blood transfusion. A simple blood transfusion and he'd be here with his kids, living a full life. Their warped doctrine permits them to have certain elements of blood products infused but they can't have a full transfusion and his body couldn't remake enough red blood cells fast enough after his surgery.

Watching him waste away and eventually die was hard when it was soooo unecessary. As an adult he can choose that stupidity, a baby can't. I've seen babies born addicted to heroin, if the mother "refuses" treatment for the baby, should we really let that kid suffer? In this case, if the kid needs treatment for HER STD and she refuses, the authorities should let that baby be ill?
 Quoting: telling it straight


You sound like somebody that's in the medical profession, perhaps a nurse, am I right? The "warped doctrine" and the "stupidity" you speak of is their interpretation of Scripture... or, in other words, it's strictly a religious conscientious objection. (Or, in other words, there's tons to that statement: it involves the sanctity of blood from a Scriptural perspective, how that ties in with JC spilling his precious blood, etc.) Because you do not comprehend this you label it as you have... warped and stupid. You have a right to your opinion but it makes you sound like a bigot or at the very least ignorant. You make it sound like had he taken the blood transfusion he would definitely be alive... yet you, compared to most non-medical people on here, should know there is NO SUCH guaranteed positive outcome with taking blood transfusions.

Most who have come on here to read this thread are surely seasoned GLPers who are quite aware of the medical mafia and what tptb are doing via vaccinations (search "Dr. Carley's vaccine induced diseases" if you're not familiar). Prior to learning about this we were all "ignorant" and thought nothing of vaccinating ourselves or our children. But we've awakened. We're no longer ignorant. That's why we read threads like this and are indignant because we know it's wrong! So, my advice to you: try to understand versus condemn. You just might learn something new... kind of like when you first learned vaccinations are bad! Otherwise you put yourself in the same category as the social worker and cop... who are acting on behalf of the "system".
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More and more kids are getting home-schooled. I bet home-birthing will be next!
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Some states require homeschoolers to be fully up to date on their immunizations.

Homeschooling laws varies from state to state.
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Their baby was returned and custody given back
to them the very next morning. It was a mistake
by the social worker. Lawsuit has been filed and
allowed to proceed, the Ferrises stand to make
some $$$ on this. (they deserve it).

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 Quoting: RDprofessor


How do they know it was the same baby? Newborns tend to look alike sometimes....
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This will only encourage more women to have their children at home.
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My two youngest were born at home. It is not as bad as people think. It was cozy and quiet for the most part. Animals tend to give birth alone in darker places and I feel that women might prefer a similar environment if they were allowed to.
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HERSHEY, PA -- A new mother refused to inject her hours old infant with an STD vaccine developed for adults. A social worker was then sent to her hospital room where she was interrogated about why she preferred natural health care treatments. When her answers weren't satisfactory to the social worker, a uniformed police officer came to assist in seizing the infant from its mother.

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Homebirth, homeschool if you want control of your children. And better keep an eye on what is going on in your state and speak out for those being tortured such as these people. Demand justice! I know a family that fled Florida to another state because they were trying to take their baby because they refused a spinal tap. Their are good social workers but there are plenty of evil ones as well. This social work should be banned from ever working in the field again. We should demand it!
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This is what you get for questioning the "authority" and for having the audacity to have your own voice in medical decisions for your children: a social worker takes custody of an hours old newborn, while still in the hospital, and prevents her mother from seeing her other than to nurse her every 3 hours. All because she asked too many questions.

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Well, there are times I think the authorities should intervene.



I watched a man die because his family (Jehovah Witnesses) refused a blood transfusion. A simple blood transfusion and he'd be here with his kids, living a full life. Their warped doctrine permits them to have certain elements of blood products infused but they can't have a full transfusion and his body couldn't remake enough red blood cells fast enough after his surgery.

Watching him waste away and eventually die was hard when it was soooo unecessary. As an adult he can choose that stupidity, a baby can't. I've seen babies born addicted to heroin, if the mother "refuses" treatment for the baby, should we really let that kid suffer? In this case, if the kid needs treatment for HER STD and she refuses, the authorities should let that baby be ill?
 Quoting: telling it straight


Stick to the subject and dont go off on a tangent to vent your "ways". We are talking about a vaccine here, moron! May you be the first in line for the vaccines, blood transfusions, and chemo....
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STD vaccine for newborn? WTF??

The simple answer is that if you don't want your baby to be filled with mercury and adjuvants, you had better plan on a home birth. Vaccinations is what hospitals and doctors and nurses do.

After home birth comes home schooling so they won't fill his mind with shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29814776


This was the parent's intention. To home birth. Things went odd and they rushed to hospital. Started giving birth in parking lot... Hospital staff found out they had intended to home birth with Midwife. Doctors were blatantly against midwives and took a high and mighty attitude with these people and treated them like trailer trash after that.

The woman is married...the husband had to leave to pick up their two other children.
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Social workers =scum of the earth. They are demons.
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Dont be such an ignorant fool.... and what are you, some angel?
 Quoting: AstroChicken


Sorry dick...Social workers are pieces of shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28353201


Actually not all of them you half breed dick less fluoride infested sheep. I have seen them do good, and in fact it is the social workers who are helping my brother with his two kids helping him against his ex who is a narcissistic lair, and vindictive bitch. If it was not for those few social workers I would agree with you 100%. So do us all a favor an lay off the ass holes, eating to many of them you are starting to become one.
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This will only encourage more women to have their children at home.
 Quoting: Alexander


My two youngest were born at home. It is not as bad as people think. It was cozy and quiet for the most part. Animals tend to give birth alone in darker places and I feel that women might prefer a similar environment if they were allowed to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25368284


My room in the hospital was dark when I gave birth both times except for a light down there so the doctor/midwife could see.
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STD vaccine for newborn? WTF??

The simple answer is that if you don't want your baby to be filled with mercury and adjuvants, you had better plan on a home birth. Vaccinations is what hospitals and doctors and nurses do.

After home birth comes home schooling so they won't fill his mind with shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29814776


This was the parent's intention. To home birth. Things went odd and they rushed to hospital. Started giving birth in parking lot... Hospital staff found out they had intended to home birth with Midwife. Doctors were blatantly against midwives and took a high and mighty attitude with these people and treated them like trailer trash after that.

The woman is married...the husband had to leave to pick up their two other children.
 Quoting: ParallaxPam


Our midwife told us hospitals are hostile towards them because they threaten their business. Health should never even BE a "business". We all need to realize this at some point.

In Missouri it is against the law to give birth in your own home. Who is behind these laws? HOSPITALS and their lobby $$$$. Our Kansas midwife would break the law and help some of these Missouri women anyway, thank goodness for people like that...
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HERSHEY, PA -- A new mother refused to inject her hours old infant with an STD vaccine developed for adults. A social worker was then sent to her hospital room where she was interrogated about why she preferred natural health care treatments. When her answers weren't satisfactory to the social worker, a uniformed police officer came to assist in seizing the infant from its mother.

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 Quoting: Chop's

Wake up

oh spineless ones

this is what you see in commie countries...

"interrogated about why she preferred natural health care"

I would have told her to get the hell out of my hospital room...this is a free country

loaded up my things ; including my newborn and left that day...

this is bs
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When I researched DCF a while back .. for each child they permanently removed from a home in CT, they received 1.5 million dollars, grant for child care (not the child individually) ..

A guy in my town had a baby with his wife, came home, and all three of his children were take for projected neglect ..

The projected neglect, was anti-government views (chemtrails, don't tread on me, etc), an herbalist, agnostic, and a hoarder (but his home is clean) .. never ever hurt his children .. now he sits in the middle of town on a bench six years later .. his wife left him, and he preaches about the corrupt government, which he has all the right in the world too ..
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This is completely illegal and they would have won a fortune, and it would have been nation wide news.
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America the f*cking stupid. Is, was and ever shall be.

You're on your own.

If someone says they're "professional", automatically ignore.
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I cry for you...and you father....so many more out there like him.

Let us pray for all the children, all the father's who have been broken, all the mother's who have been robbed....

Lord, Jesus, recieve us into your loving arms, be our stong tower, lift us up on your wings, that we may run and not grow weary. Let our love one for another, not grow cold.

Give us wisdom, as the man said...not to do foolish things where the camera and social workers can see us....

In Jesus Name, I pray, amen.cry
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Women have given birth at home for MILLENNIA.

The major differences in giving birth at a hospital,
is that your baby will be exposed to every airborn
germ and disease known to man, at birth.

Remember, hospitals are where all the sick people go.

The STATE will REGISTER your child,
and he/she will become a cog in the machine.
For life.
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This is what you get for questioning the "authority" and for having the audacity to have your own voice in medical decisions for your children: a social worker takes custody of an hours old newborn, while still in the hospital, and prevents her mother from seeing her other than to nurse her every 3 hours. All because she asked too many questions.

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 Quoting: Chop's


Well, there are times I think the authorities should intervene.

I watched a man die because his family (Jehovah Witnesses) refused a blood transfusion. A simple blood transfusion and he'd be here with his kids, living a full life. Their warped doctrine permits them to have certain elements of blood products infused but they can't have a full transfusion and his body couldn't remake enough red blood cells fast enough after his surgery.

Watching him waste away and eventually die was hard when it was soooo unecessary. As an adult he can choose that stupidity, a baby can't. I've seen babies born addicted to heroin, if the mother "refuses" treatment for the baby, should we really let that kid suffer? In this case, if the kid needs treatment for HER STD and she refuses, the authorities should let that baby be ill?
 Quoting: telling it straight


You sound like somebody that's in the medical profession, perhaps a nurse, am I right? The "warped doctrine" and the "stupidity" you speak of is their interpretation of Scripture... or, in other words, it's strictly a religious conscientious objection. (Or, in other words, there's tons to that statement: it involves the sanctity of blood from a Scriptural perspective, how that ties in with JC spilling his precious blood, etc.) Because you do not comprehend this you label it as you have... warped and stupid. You have a right to your opinion but it makes you sound like a bigot or at the very least ignorant. You make it sound like had he taken the blood transfusion he would definitely be alive... yet you, compared to most non-medical people on here, should know there is NO SUCH guaranteed positive outcome with taking blood transfusions.

Most who have come on here to read this thread are surely seasoned GLPers who are quite aware of the medical mafia and what tptb are doing via vaccinations (search "Dr. Carley's vaccine induced diseases" if you're not familiar). Prior to learning about this we were all "ignorant" and thought nothing of vaccinating ourselves or our children. But we've awakened. We're no longer ignorant. That's why we read threads like this and are indignant because we know it's wrong! So, my advice to you: try to understand versus condemn. You just might learn something new... kind of like when you first learned vaccinations are bad! Otherwise you put yourself in the same category as the social worker and cop... who are acting on behalf of the "system".
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"try to understand versus condemn"

Is this what was told to the jews as they were lead to their slaughter into the train cars ??
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Women have given birth at home for MILLENNIA.

The major differences in giving birth at a hospital,
is that your baby will be exposed to every airborn
germ and disease known to man, at birth.

Remember, hospitals are where all the sick people go.

The STATE will REGISTER your child,
and he/she will become a cog in the machine.
For life.
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A baby is seen as a parasite by 'modern' medicine
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[link to www.momaroo.com]

This is what you get for questioning the "authority" and for having the audacity to have your own voice in medical decisions for your children: a social worker takes custody of an hours old newborn, while still in the hospital, and prevents her mother from seeing her other than to nurse her every 3 hours. All because she asked too many questions.

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Well, there are times I think the authorities should intervene.

I watched a man die because his family (Jehovah Witnesses) refused a blood transfusion. A simple blood transfusion and he'd be here with his kids, living a full life. Their warped doctrine permits them to have certain elements of blood products infused but they can't have a full transfusion and his body couldn't remake enough red blood cells fast enough after his surgery.

Watching him waste away and eventually die was hard when it was soooo unecessary. As an adult he can choose that stupidity, a baby can't. I've seen babies born addicted to heroin, if the mother "refuses" treatment for the baby, should we really let that kid suffer? In this case, if the kid needs treatment for HER STD and she refuses, the authorities should let that baby be ill?
 Quoting: telling it straight


Authorities should stay out of people's business when it comes to medical treatments. Getting them involved means that soon people won't have any choices. And there are extreme cases but leave adults alone when it comes to their choices no matter how 'extreme' they seem to be.

And when it comes to vaccines leave the parents alone in their decisions as well or eventually all children will be taken if parents say anything contrary to what the government wants to do with their child.

And research more into transfusions and their dangers and bloodless surgery which more hospitals are using. You might also want to look into how many people actually DIE when transfused. That is something that the average Joe is not aware of because of coverups. Religious freedom needs to be protected because that ties into freedom of speech and freedom in general.
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Social Services was called on me also for the same reason. Took my 11 month old in after she had a small bloody lip from her crib bar. (She was my first and I just wanted it checked out.) It was superficial and nothing serious, just a lot of blood. The ER doctor asked me all types of questions about her vaccines, then went on to yell at me with the exam room door open about what a horrible mother I was for not giving her the HEP B while she was an hour old...

I could not believe how personal he took it. Red in the face and pure anger came over him. He threatened me and told me that I should not have my child. He said I was a bad mother and he would do everything he could to ensure this was "resolved." He said he'd be calling Social Services. I left.

I left the hospital in tears. Mortified. I was a young mother, but educated on vaccinations. Sure enough, a social worker came to my door the next day. Sat in my home, looked around, interviewed me, etc. Thank God she was a really nice lady. She kept complimenting me and reassuring me that I was a great mom and making a "good" decision as if to silently nod and agree with me without admitting it.

I had two other children after that... I did the same with them. There are issues with school enrollment, etc., but I know how to get around it all. My children are calm, well behaved, smart, patient and not hyper, etc. It seems to be an epidemic these days with hyper-activity and many other issues with children including of course Autism.

My daughter is now 16 and really amazing. I dare to say unique, but there is no one like her in school. One day, there may be a group of non-vaccinated children that will "clique" and reunite. Maybe they will get along in a way that they can not with other people... We will see.


To anyone out there having a child, If you are going to vaccinate, please do it slowly. They want it rushed and given too quickly, months apart, etc. Stretch it out......... Over years if possible.
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I witnessed the birth of baby lion cubs in a zoo only a few years back...

they didn't shoot them up with anything...and let mommy have them and mommy was allowed to clean the little guys off for hours ....
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This is what you get for questioning the "authority" and for having the audacity to have your own voice in medical decisions for your children: a social worker takes custody of an hours old newborn, while still in the hospital, and prevents her mother from seeing her other than to nurse her every 3 hours. All because she asked too many questions.

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Well, there are times I think the authorities should intervene.

I watched a man die because his family (Jehovah Witnesses) refused a blood transfusion. A simple blood transfusion and he'd be here with his kids, living a full life. Their warped doctrine permits them to have certain elements of blood products infused but they can't have a full transfusion and his body couldn't remake enough red blood cells fast enough after his surgery.

Watching him waste away and eventually die was hard when it was soooo unecessary. As an adult he can choose that stupidity, a baby can't. I've seen babies born addicted to heroin, if the mother "refuses" treatment for the baby, should we really let that kid suffer? In this case, if the kid needs treatment for HER STD and she refuses, the authorities should let that baby be ill?
 Quoting: telling it straight


You sound like somebody that's in the medical profession, perhaps a nurse, am I right? The "warped doctrine" and the "stupidity" you speak of is their interpretation of Scripture... or, in other words, it's strictly a religious conscientious objection. (Or, in other words, there's tons to that statement: it involves the sanctity of blood from a Scriptural perspective, how that ties in with JC spilling his precious blood, etc.) Because you do not comprehend this you label it as you have... warped and stupid. You have a right to your opinion but it makes you sound like a bigot or at the very least ignorant. You make it sound like had he taken the blood transfusion he would definitely be alive... yet you, compared to most non-medical people on here, should know there is NO SUCH guaranteed positive outcome with taking blood transfusions.

Most who have come on here to read this thread are surely seasoned GLPers who are quite aware of the medical mafia and what tptb are doing via vaccinations (search "Dr. Carley's vaccine induced diseases" if you're not familiar). Prior to learning about this we were all "ignorant" and thought nothing of vaccinating ourselves or our children. But we've awakened. We're no longer ignorant. That's why we read threads like this and are indignant because we know it's wrong! So, my advice to you: try to understand versus condemn. You just might learn something new... kind of like when you first learned vaccinations are bad! Otherwise you put yourself in the same category as the social worker and cop... who are acting on behalf of the "system".
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The mom should have told them she had to discuss it with her rabbi...
then if they insisted, she could have accused them of "antisemitism"...
that would shut them up big time.



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STD vaccine for newborn? WTF??

The simple answer is that if you don't want your baby to be filled with mercury and adjuvants, you had better plan on a home birth. Vaccinations is what hospitals and doctors and nurses do.

After home birth comes home schooling so they won't fill his mind with shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29814776


This was the parent's intention. To home birth. Things went odd and they rushed to hospital. Started giving birth in parking lot... Hospital staff found out they had intended to home birth with Midwife. Doctors were blatantly against midwives and took a high and mighty attitude with these people and treated them like trailer trash after that.

The woman is married...the husband had to leave to pick up their two other children.
 Quoting: ParallaxPam


Hope they get them where it hurts. In the pocketbook. This is the only way that hospital staff will learn to treat people better is if it hurts them.
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STD vaccine for newborn? WTF??

The simple answer is that if you don't want your baby to be filled with mercury and adjuvants, you had better plan on a home birth. Vaccinations is what hospitals and doctors and nurses do.

After home birth comes home schooling so they won't fill his mind with shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29814776


This was the parent's intention. To home birth. Things went odd and they rushed to hospital. Started giving birth in parking lot... Hospital staff found out they had intended to home birth with Midwife. Doctors were blatantly against midwives and took a high and mighty attitude with these people and treated them like trailer trash after that.

The woman is married...the husband had to leave to pick up their two other children.
 Quoting: ParallaxPam


Our midwife told us hospitals are hostile towards them because they threaten their business. Health should never even BE a "business". We all need to realize this at some point.

In Missouri it is against the law to give birth in your own home. Who is behind these laws? HOSPITALS and their lobby $$$$. Our Kansas midwife would break the law and help some of these Missouri women anyway, thank goodness for people like that...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25368284


Some laws are meant to be broken like this insane one. I have relatives in MO and they had all their kids at home. They learned to do it themselves and all three are just fine. It is all about the money why they couldn't legally hire a midwife.
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no law requiring vaccinations. i call bas
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STD vaccine for newborn? WTF??

The simple answer is that if you don't want your baby to be filled with mercury and adjuvants, you had better plan on a home birth. Vaccinations is what hospitals and doctors and nurses do.

After home birth comes home schooling so they won't fill his mind with shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29814776


This was the parent's intention. To home birth. Things went odd and they rushed to hospital. Started giving birth in parking lot... Hospital staff found out they had intended to home birth with Midwife. Doctors were blatantly against midwives and took a high and mighty attitude with these people and treated them like trailer trash after that.

The woman is married...the husband had to leave to pick up their two other children.
 Quoting: ParallaxPam


Our midwife told us hospitals are hostile towards them because they threaten their business. Health should never even BE a "business". We all need to realize this at some point.

In Missouri it is against the law to give birth in your own home. Who is behind these laws? HOSPITALS and their lobby $$$$. Our Kansas midwife would break the law and help some of these Missouri women anyway, thank goodness for people like that...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25368284


Some laws are meant to be broken like this insane one. I have relatives in MO and they had all their kids at home. They learned to do it themselves and all three are just fine. It is all about the money why they couldn't legally hire a midwife.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550123


My great grand mother had all 13 of her kids at home.

This was circa 1900s.

It was the norm to have kids at home until about the 1940s..

then, if you lived in a rural area, people were still born at home up until about 1970s...

truth


The indians on the reservations still have babies at home
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Re: Newborn Seized Because Mom Questioned Necessity of Vaccination
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The mom should have told them she had to discuss it with her rabbi...
then if they insisted, she could have accused them of "antisemitism"...
that would shut them up big time.



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Last I checked, it is not against the law to refuse a vaccination, or is it?
If vaccinations worked, why would they care whether anyone received them? They know they don't work, and innoculation is not the reason for their being despensed. This proves there is a more sinister agenda at work. These people are trying to kill off the population, and will stop at nothing to administer this biolgical warfare on the masses.
Recently, a little girl was abducted from a hospital by her parents as she was receiving canncer treatment. The parents obviously realized the hospital's treatments were killing their young daughter, so they resorted to very desperate means to save their duaghter. An arrest warrant has been issued for both parents, as the hospital claim there was catheter inserted in the girl's check which could be prone to dangerous infections. Obviosuly, the parent's were so concerned about their daughter's health, they were willing to take this risk. I'd rather live with the prospects of an infection than allow them to kill me with their useless chemo and radiation therapy.
The medical industrial complex along with the pharmaceutical companies are profiteers bent on pushing the agenda of the elite. That agenda is written on the Georgia Guidstones, and it is to reduce the world's population down from 6-7 billion people to a half a billion people.
They are going to use Obama's 'deathcare program' to carry it out.
Forced vaccinations are coming, and it when it does, I advise all to get out ASAP, or fight.

Come on, if vaccinaton really worked why would I give damn the next guy gets one? I'm protected...he's the fool, right?

Vaccinations are biological warfare against you!!!

Vaccinations: The Hidden Truth --
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Re: Newborn Seized Because Mom Questioned Necessity of Vaccination
Last I checked, it is not against the law to refuse a vaccination, or is it?
If vaccinations worked, why would they care whether anyone received them? They know they don't work, and innoculation is not the reason for their being despensed. This proves there is a more sinister agenda at work. These people are trying to kill off the population, and will stop at nothing to administer this biolgical warfare on the masses.
Recently, a little girl was abducted from a hospital by her parents as she was receiving canncer treatment. The parents obviously realized the hospital's treatments were killing their young daughter, so they resorted to very desperate means to save their duaghter. An arrest warrant has been issued for both parents, as the hospital claim there was catheter inserted in the girl's check which could be prone to dangerous infections. Obviosuly, the parent's were so concerned about their daughter's health, they were willing to take this risk. I'd rather live with the prospects of an infection than allow them to kill me with their useless chemo and radiation therapy.
The medical industrial complex along with the pharmaceutical companies are profiteers bent on pushing the agenda of the elite. That agenda is written on the Georgia Guidstones, and it is to reduce the world's population down from 6-7 billion people to a half a billion people.
They are going to use Obama's 'deathcare program' to carry it out.
Forced vaccinations are coming, and it when it does, I advise all to get out ASAP, or fight.

Come on, if vaccinaton really worked why would I give damn the next guy gets one? I'm protected...he's the fool, right?

Vaccinations are biological warfare against you!!!

Vaccinations: The Hidden Truth --
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