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Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place

 
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I also hope the shills know that they are TRAITORS. They are employed to keep their fellow countrymen from learning about what is really going on-- not only in the heavens but here in our own country (or Britain, or where ever). You are slime. When the final bell rings and you have to answer to your maker, you are going DOWN. You are the slime that lives below slime in the heirarchy of humanity.
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I wonder how they can live with themselves they must be like the observers from FRINGE without feelings like little robots. Not to mention those who are doing the chemtrailing and who allow the other things to occur!
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I've seen some patents on the chemtrailing that states it is done for weather modification, in part because the shields(?) are changing on our planet.
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Yet the old calendar I have from 1986 that shows every solar and lunar eclipse for the next 50 years is always accurate. My sun dials still work properly. And all my solar and lunar tracking over the last 15 years show the sun and the moon exactly where they should be.

But sure, for you the laws of physics change from summer to summer, 30 to 40 degrees at a time.
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Are you an astronomer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


I am an amateur astronomer. I've got telescopes and start charts and everything. But still just an amateur.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24314629


I'm not accusing you of shillery, but there are more people contributing to this convo that would contradict you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


And there are between 50 and 60 other amateur astronomers that I meet up with usually once a month, who's observations mirror my own. We have 2 Sun Specialists, guys who have special filters and watch the sun all the time for solar flares. According to them nothing is unusual either. I should know, because I did ask them over a year ago when I first heard these silly type threads.

So again, to prove my point I want you to explain how solar and lunar eclipses occur at exactly the right time, day, and in the right geographic area of the earth as predicted many decades ahead of time, if the sun has moved. or the earth or the moon. Or are you implying the Sun, Earth AND Moon have all changed? Please elaborate.


BTW if a Solar or Lunar eclipse didn't work out right according to my calendars, I would DEFINITELY post about it on GLP, but I am sorry to say that has not happened.
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Ok. This is the interview I came across about 2 weeks ago that convinced me that this stuff is true. I am a Christian and I could tell these guys are sincere. True, this is an 'End Days' ministry, but I don't know why it's called that if they have this info. ANYWAY, a man named Benjamin Baruch was in touch with an astrophysicist, emailing things, and the astrophysicist, a Ph.D. who has contracted for the government, wanted to meet and talk with Baruch. So Baruch flew out to meet him and the astrophysicist brought a second astrophysicist and a third man from the company they worked for. These men are trying to get the word out. Apparently there have been a lot of deaths in this community lately-- and we can easily speculate as to why.

Anyway, the tape is a bit inundated with religious talk, but try to wade thru the first 4 or 5 minutes of it until you can get to the technical info. Trust me, you want to hear this.

[link to www.watchmanscry.com]
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Are you an astronomer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


I am an amateur astronomer. I've got telescopes and start charts and everything. But still just an amateur.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24314629


I'm not accusing you of shillery, but there are more people contributing to this convo that would contradict you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


And there are between 50 and 60 other amateur astronomers that I meet up with usually once a month, who's observations mirror my own. We have 2 Sun Specialists, guys who have special filters and watch the sun all the time for solar flares. According to them nothing is unusual either. I should know, because I did ask them over a year ago when I first heard these silly type threads.

So again, to prove my point I want you to explain how solar and lunar eclipses occur at exactly the right time, day, and in the right geographic area of the earth as predicted many decades ahead of time, if the sun has moved. or the earth or the moon. Or are you implying the Sun, Earth AND Moon have all changed? Please elaborate.


BTW if a Solar or Lunar eclipse didn't work out right according to my calendars, I would DEFINITELY post about it on GLP, but I am sorry to say that has not happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24314629


You a full of it...
Nice try.

Star charts...? From USNO and JPL..?
With the usual adjustments, calculations and fudging necessary to make them correct..?

You are disseminating claptrap.
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I am an amateur astronomer. I've got telescopes and start charts and everything. But still just an amateur.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24314629


I'm not accusing you of shillery, but there are more people contributing to this convo that would contradict you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


And there are between 50 and 60 other amateur astronomers that I meet up with usually once a month, who's observations mirror my own. We have 2 Sun Specialists, guys who have special filters and watch the sun all the time for solar flares. According to them nothing is unusual either. I should know, because I did ask them over a year ago when I first heard these silly type threads.

So again, to prove my point I want you to explain how solar and lunar eclipses occur at exactly the right time, day, and in the right geographic area of the earth as predicted many decades ahead of time, if the sun has moved. or the earth or the moon. Or are you implying the Sun, Earth AND Moon have all changed? Please elaborate.


BTW if a Solar or Lunar eclipse didn't work out right according to my calendars, I would DEFINITELY post about it on GLP, but I am sorry to say that has not happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24314629


You a full of it...
Nice try.

Star charts...? From USNO and JPL..?
With the usual adjustments, calculations and fudging necessary to make them correct..?

You are disseminating claptrap.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I have a star chart program installed on a laptop since at least 2002, never connected to Internet, and it's still accurate.
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Ok. This is the interview I came across about 2 weeks ago that convinced me that this stuff is true. I am a Christian and I could tell these guys are sincere. True, this is an 'End Days' ministry, but I don't know why it's called that if they have this info. ANYWAY, a man named Benjamin Baruch was in touch with an astrophysicist, emailing things, and the astrophysicist, a Ph.D. who has contracted for the government, wanted to meet and talk with Baruch. So Baruch flew out to meet him and the astrophysicist brought a second astrophysicist and a third man from the company they worked for. These men are trying to get the word out. Apparently there have been a lot of deaths in this community lately-- and we can easily speculate as to why.

Anyway, the tape is a bit inundated with religious talk, but try to wade thru the first 4 or 5 minutes of it until you can get to the technical info. Trust me, you want to hear this.

[link to www.watchmanscry.com]
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Also, I have been looking for other astrophysicists with Ph.Ds who can confirm this.

Dr. Robert S. Harrington, the chief astronomer of the U.S. Naval Observatory. He died before he could publicize the fact that Planet X is approaching our Solar System. In fact, he died right before he was going to present his paper on Planet X/Nibiru

[link to yowusa.com]
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<Snip Nibirutard Sun babble>

I didn't know about Nibiru then. Now this makes sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


Did you immediately throw a Beagle on the Barbie and dig a trench all while chanting "Zetas right again."?

That's the approved Nibiru worship ritual nowadays.

BTW - Charcoal or gas on your bowser barbeque?

R.
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Are you an astronomer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


I am an amateur astronomer. I've got telescopes and start charts and everything. But still just an amateur.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24314629


I'm not accusing you of shillery, but there are more people contributing to this convo that would contradict you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


And there are between 50 and 60 other amateur astronomers that I meet up with usually once a month, who's observations mirror my own. We have 2 Sun Specialists, guys who have special filters and watch the sun all the time for solar flares. According to them nothing is unusual either. I should know, because I did ask them over a year ago when I first heard these silly type threads.

So again, to prove my point I want you to explain how solar and lunar eclipses occur at exactly the right time, day, and in the right geographic area of the earth as predicted many decades ahead of time, if the sun has moved. or the earth or the moon. Or are you implying the Sun, Earth AND Moon have all changed? Please elaborate.


BTW if a Solar or Lunar eclipse didn't work out right according to my calendars, I would DEFINITELY post about it on GLP, but I am sorry to say that has not happened.
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We have to read everything on here with a grain or two of skepticism as we don't know each others' identities. You might be sincere, or you might be a shill. The evidence that I have come across so far would make me inclined to think that you are not sincere.
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<Snip Nibirutard Sun babble>

I didn't know about Nibiru then. Now this makes sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


Did you immediately throw a Beagle on the Barbie and dig a trench all while chanting "Zetas right again."?

That's the approved Nibiru worship ritual nowadays.

BTW - Charcoal or gas on your bowser barbeque?

R.
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In no one's universe does ridicule pass for analytical thought. It's emotional and immature. As you must be.
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I could sit in my family room, in my recliner, and watch the sun set for 14 years in basically the same place in the sky. The window that I watched it from opens to my back yard. I would see it set at the right-most edge of the window that my recliner is set next to. Last summer, I couldn't see it set from there because the sun was setting in an area I could only see from the FRONT of my house.

I didn't know about Nibiru then. Now this makes sense.
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Thank you for your post hf. I also have noticed that the sun is setting in a quite different location too. Please disregard the shills that are rude and vulgar. After all, they are paid to do what they are doing and it keeps them off welfare, lol. Thank you again and I know that you are speaking truth. Be blessed.

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I am an amateur astronomer. I've got telescopes and start charts and everything. But still just an amateur.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24314629


I'm not accusing you of shillery, but there are more people contributing to this convo that would contradict you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


And there are between 50 and 60 other amateur astronomers that I meet up with usually once a month, who's observations mirror my own. We have 2 Sun Specialists, guys who have special filters and watch the sun all the time for solar flares. According to them nothing is unusual either. I should know, because I did ask them over a year ago when I first heard these silly type threads.

So again, to prove my point I want you to explain how solar and lunar eclipses occur at exactly the right time, day, and in the right geographic area of the earth as predicted many decades ahead of time, if the sun has moved. or the earth or the moon. Or are you implying the Sun, Earth AND Moon have all changed? Please elaborate.


BTW if a Solar or Lunar eclipse didn't work out right according to my calendars, I would DEFINITELY post about it on GLP, but I am sorry to say that has not happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24314629


You a full of it...
Nice try.

Star charts...? From USNO and JPL..?
With the usual adjustments, calculations and fudging necessary to make them correct..?

You are disseminating claptrap.
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I agree.
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I could sit in my family room, in my recliner, and watch the sun set for 14 years in basically the same place in the sky. The window that I watched it from opens to my back yard. I would see it set at the right-most edge of the window that my recliner is set next to. Last summer, I couldn't see it set from there because the sun was setting in an area I could only see from the FRONT of my house.

I didn't know about Nibiru then. Now this makes sense.
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Thank you for your post hf. I also have noticed that the sun is setting in a quite different location too. Please disregard the shills that are rude and vulgar. After all, they are paid to do what they are doing and it keeps them off welfare, lol. Thank you again and I know that you are speaking truth. Be blessed.

hugshiapplausegrouphugu2efinehf
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Thanks friend. We are all just trying to find the truth.
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Are you retyeah arded in what you suggest . But there again you are a stupid American and the next thing you will say is the world ends on 21st fucking moron.
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Got some anger problems there Buddy?
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Yeah I ha e especially when you stupid Americans come out with shit threads like you have you fucking twat
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You really need to increase your meds, friend.
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<Snip Nibirutard Sun babble>

I didn't know about Nibiru then. Now this makes sense.
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Did you immediately throw a Beagle on the Barbie and dig a trench all while chanting "Zetas right again."?

That's the approved Nibiru worship ritual nowadays.

BTW - Charcoal or gas on your bowser barbeque?

R.
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In no one's universe does ridicule pass for analytical thought. It's emotional and immature. As you must be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


I have not begun to ridicule you.

So, how about that Indonesia? Still above water I see. The sinking is going at a glacially slow rate don't you think?
Not exactly an event that would "shock and stun the common man"... only Nibirutards.

And I think we're due for another "Christmas Hammer" in a week or so. I hope it isn't as devastating as the last one which damn near sterilized good ol' terra firma.
You remember that, don't you?
Well, don't you?

That ol' debil Nibiru is one sneaky fella. Playing hide-and-seek with the common man. Popping out for a photo-op for anyone with a phone-cam and a delusion.
Endlessly approaching but never arriving or even becoming visible to non-insane people.

I know, I know... "Sooooooooon!"
<snicker>


R.
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You see folks, this is the problem with the shills and why they are so easy to spot.

1) They are over-emotional and usually use vulgarities, lots of times for no reason at all.

2) They can't carry on intelligent conversations. They have the reasoning abilities of high school graduates. They don't have analytical skills at all. They are, in short, ignorant.
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So true. They are also way too angry about posts that question changes in our world. Very easy to spot.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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A lot of things are falling in to place now, aren't they? Like

NASA Administrator Recommends Being Prepared to Employees

This was from the Administrator of NASA, Charles F. Bolden, sent an email to all NASA employees encouraging them to prepare themselves for potential emergencies such as fires, floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, terrorist attacks and other unforeseen catastrophes.

Now dear American shills, what would Nibiru have to do with the above cataclysms? The pole shift might rearrange the earth, causing pole ice caps to melt and coastlines to flood up to 200 or more feet above sea level, redefining the coasts of continents and islands. That is just for starters. The recent record-breaking typhoon in the Philipines? The strongest they've ever had? The frequent and intense earthquakes in Chile? Nibiru is approaching the earth from the south. Get it? The signs are all there and they are making sense.
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A lot of things are falling in to place now, aren't they? Like

NASA Administrator Recommends Being Prepared to Employees

This was from the Administrator of NASA, Charles F. Bolden, sent an email to all NASA employees encouraging them to prepare themselves for potential emergencies such as fires, floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, terrorist attacks and other unforeseen catastrophes.

Now dear American shills, what would Nibiru have to do with the above cataclysms? The pole shift might rearrange the earth, causing pole ice caps to melt and coastlines to flood up to 200 or more feet above sea level, redefining the coasts of continents and islands. That is just for starters. The recent record-breaking typhoon in the Philipines? The strongest they've ever had? The frequent and intense earthquakes in Chile? Nibiru is approaching the earth from the south. Get it? The signs are all there and they are making sense.
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This is the link for the above. You can download the preparedness info from NASA if you want.
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Are you retarded in what you suggest . But there again you are a stupid American and the next thing you will say is the world ends on 21st fucking moron.
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Got some anger problems there Buddy?
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Funny I was going to reply with the same thing
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A lot of things are falling in to place now, aren't they? Like

NASA Administrator Recommends Being Prepared to Employees

This was from the Administrator of NASA, Charles F. Bolden, sent an email to all NASA employees encouraging them to prepare themselves for potential emergencies such as fires, floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, terrorist attacks and other unforeseen catastrophes.

Now dear American shills, what would Nibiru have to do with the above cataclysms? The pole shift might rearrange the earth, causing pole ice caps to melt and coastlines to flood up to 200 or more feet above sea level, redefining the coasts of continents and islands. That is just for starters. The recent record-breaking typhoon in the Philipines? The strongest they've ever had? The frequent and intense earthquakes in Chile? Nibiru is approaching the earth from the south. Get it? The signs are all there and they are making sense.
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This is the link for the above. You can download the preparedness info from NASA if you want.
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OK. I lied. It's really here:

[link to www.nasa.gov]

This info came out in October of 2011.
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You see folks, this is the problem with the shills and why they are so easy to spot.

1) They are over-emotional and usually use vulgarities, lots of times for no reason at all.

2) They can't carry on intelligent conversations. They have the reasoning abilities of high school graduates. They don't have analytical skills at all. They are, in short, ignorant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


So true. They are also way too angry about posts that question changes in our world. Very easy to spot.
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I agree with you.
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At 30-40 degrees off it wouldn't even come up and if it did it wouldn't be light for long.
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Why do the shills neglect Einstein..?
Is it possible that they think we don't understand..?

His theories, and the anomalies that I have become aware of through research,
are enough to convince me that there are forces in play which are influencing
the normal orbital dynamics of Earth in real-time.

No dumb-ass shill can convince me otherwise.


[link to www.einstein-online.info]
[snip]

One reason why the physics of general relativity is much more difficult than that of Newton's theory of gravity or the theory of electrodynamics is a property called non-linearity. In short, gravity can beget further gravity - where gravitational systems are concerned, the whole is not the sum of its parts.

For instance, it is possible to show that the gravitational force with which an arbitrary, spherically symmetric body acts on objects in its vicinity is the same as if it were point-like, all its mass concentrated in the center of the sphere.
In the same way, one can show that inside the hollow interior of a spherical shell (or any other spherically symmetric hollow mass configuration), there are no gravitational forces at all.

In Einstein's theory, you're always dealing with complete universes. Even if you use the theory to describe a single black hole, then strictly speaking what you are describing is a very simple, but nonetheless complete model universe - a universe containing a black hole and nothing else. Throughout that universe, the geometry of space and time is influenced by the black hole. Not only is there no uniquely defined way to add two universes - how will you decide which location in one of the universes is "the same" as a given location in the other universe? In many examples, such an addition seems completely impossible - for instance, how could you possibly add a big bang universe for which the volume of space is finite, and an infinitely extended model universe containing a single black hole?

Vice versa, even within a single universe there is no general procedure for identifying the extent to which one of many bodies contained in that universe contributes to gravity.

The gravitational field can only be described as a whole. It cannot be constructed from more elementary building blocks.
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<Snip Nibirutard Sun babble>

I didn't know about Nibiru then. Now this makes sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


Did you immediately throw a Beagle on the Barbie and dig a trench all while chanting "Zetas right again."?

That's the approved Nibiru worship ritual nowadays.

BTW - Charcoal or gas on your bowser barbeque?

R.
 Quoting: Reality420 24847476


In no one's universe does ridicule pass for analytical thought. It's emotional and immature. As you must be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


I have not begun to ridicule you.

So, how about that Indonesia? Still above water I see. The sinking is going at a glacially slow rate don't you think?
Not exactly an event that would "shock and stun the common man"... only Nibirutards.

And I think we're due for another "Christmas Hammer" in a week or so. I hope it isn't as devastating as the last one which damn near sterilized good ol' terra firma.
You remember that, don't you?
Well, don't you?

That ol' debil Nibiru is one sneaky fella. Playing hide-and-seek with the common man. Popping out for a photo-op for anyone with a phone-cam and a delusion.
Endlessly approaching but never arriving or even becoming visible to non-insane people.

I know, I know... "Sooooooooon!"
<snicker>


R.
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Hmmmm.... I guess you really didn't understand what I wrote.
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funny, I also live 14 or almost 15 years in the same spot and my sun sets in the same spot all those years.
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Re: Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place
Why do the shills neglect Einstein..?
Is it possible that they think we don't understand..?

His theories, and the anomalies that I have become aware of through research,
are enough to convince me that there are forces in play which are influencing
the normal orbital dynamics of Earth in real-time.

No dumb-ass shill can convince me otherwise.


[link to www.einstein-online.info]
[snip]

One reason why the physics of general relativity is much more difficult than that of Newton's theory of gravity or the theory of electrodynamics is a property called non-linearity. In short, gravity can beget further gravity - where gravitational systems are concerned, the whole is not the sum of its parts.

For instance, it is possible to show that the gravitational force with which an arbitrary, spherically symmetric body acts on objects in its vicinity is the same as if it were point-like, all its mass concentrated in the center of the sphere.
In the same way, one can show that inside the hollow interior of a spherical shell (or any other spherically symmetric hollow mass configuration), there are no gravitational forces at all.

In Einstein's theory, you're always dealing with complete universes. Even if you use the theory to describe a single black hole, then strictly speaking what you are describing is a very simple, but nonetheless complete model universe - a universe containing a black hole and nothing else. Throughout that universe, the geometry of space and time is influenced by the black hole. Not only is there no uniquely defined way to add two universes - how will you decide which location in one of the universes is "the same" as a given location in the other universe? In many examples, such an addition seems completely impossible - for instance, how could you possibly add a big bang universe for which the volume of space is finite, and an infinitely extended model universe containing a single black hole?

Vice versa, even within a single universe there is no general procedure for identifying the extent to which one of many bodies contained in that universe contributes to gravity.

The gravitational field can only be described as a whole. It cannot be constructed from more elementary building blocks.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Oh, I absolutely understand what you this is getting at. I was listening to Dr. Paul LaViollette yesterday, an astrophysicist who was talking about flux in the universe. It's constantly changing and changing effects on each other. That can be why it's so hard to pin this star down.
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funny, I also live 14 or almost 15 years in the same spot and my sun sets in the same spot all those years.
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So the axial tilt of the planet, the rate of spin and its solar orbit doesn't affect you..?
That is funny.
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funny, I also live 14 or almost 15 years in the same spot and my sun sets in the same spot all those years.
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Well, if you have a fairly good grasp of three dimensionality, you can see how this could occur in one place on the earth and not at another.
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You see folks, this is the problem with the shills and why they are so easy to spot.

1) They are over-emotional and usually use vulgarities, lots of times for no reason at all.

2) They can't carry on intelligent conversations. They have the reasoning abilities of high school graduates. They don't have analytical skills at all. They are, in short, ignorant.
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So true. They are also way too angry about posts that question changes in our world. Very easy to spot.
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I agree with you.
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MAN I LOVE you circle jerk back slappers making each other feel good regardless of truth and then claim others are shills (LAME) because they disagree with you or are tired and irritated with your HORSE SHIT!

You claim wild circumstances that only YOU can prove then wonder why people attack you AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Back in the day we called your kind PUNKS they would start a fight then scream for mommy in this case it's your cohort in punkdom.

HEY have fun slapping each other on the back K!!!!
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funny, I also live 14 or almost 15 years in the same spot and my sun sets in the same spot all those years.
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So the axial tilt of the planet, the rate of spin and its solar orbit doesn't affect you..?
That is funny.
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If his alignment is close to the axis of change and mine isn't, then I would see the change as more pronounced.
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Re: Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place
You see folks, this is the problem with the shills and why they are so easy to spot.

1) They are over-emotional and usually use vulgarities, lots of times for no reason at all.

2) They can't carry on intelligent conversations. They have the reasoning abilities of high school graduates. They don't have analytical skills at all. They are, in short, ignorant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


So true. They are also way too angry about posts that question changes in our world. Very easy to spot.
 Quoting: INK3


I agree with you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478








MAN I LOVE you circle jerk back slappers making each other feel good regardless of truth and then claim others are shills (LAME) because they disagree with you or are tired and irritated with your HORSE SHIT!

You claim wild circumstances that only YOU can prove then wonder why people attack you AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Back in the day we called your kind PUNKS they would start a fight then scream for mommy in this case it's your cohort in punkdom.

HEY have fun slapping each other on the back K!!!!
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You need help, friend.

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