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Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place

 
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from Fox news:
Tampa had to change runways because of pole shift

[link to www.foxnews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27551020


This is because the MAGNETIC poles are moving. The earth's axis is not shifting.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


Wrong. The axis is always in flux. Read a book.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I know about precession. Precession is too subtle to cause the sun to appear to rise/set 30 - 40 degrees from where it did on a particular day a few years ago.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


It's a common skytard ploy- to claim that things like precession support the claims that the sun is radically out of place in the sky. It's a game which Waterbug consistently seems to enjoy playing.
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The water from melting ice is migrating to center from the poles because of centrifugal force...
This is causing Earth's wobble to become variable and erratic.
Thanks to the stabilizing forces of the sun and moon, it is on and off with the seasons.

This is what they don't want you to know.

There are other factors... migrating magma deep in the earth, for instance.
Seawater salt composition and thermohaline function, as well.
 Quoting: Waterbug


You have yet to explain how this would create an unbalanced situation or provide any solid evidence that Earth's axis has shifted to a visible degree.
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from Fox news:
Tampa had to change runways because of pole shift

[link to www.foxnews.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27551020


This is because the MAGNETIC poles are moving. The earth's axis is not shifting.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


Wrong. The axis is always in flux. Read a book.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I know about precession. Precession is too subtle to cause the sun to appear to rise/set 30 - 40 degrees from where it did on a particular day a few years ago.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


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This is because the MAGNETIC poles are moving. The earth's axis is not shifting.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


Wrong. The axis is always in flux. Read a book.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I know about precession. Precession is too subtle to cause the sun to appear to rise/set 30 - 40 degrees from where it did on a particular day a few years ago.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


But... you SAID the axis is not shifting in your rebuttal.
The wobble is variable and proven... the axis is hardly static.
Nor is our solar system... nor is the galaxy.. nor is the universe.

We are discussing anomalies and the discernible effects of this wobble.
The mass distribution of the planet is also in flux.

If you alter the distribution of mass on a spinning object.. what happens..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


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This is because the MAGNETIC poles are moving. The earth's axis is not shifting.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


Wrong. The axis is always in flux. Read a book.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I know about precession. Precession is too subtle to cause the sun to appear to rise/set 30 - 40 degrees from where it did on a particular day a few years ago.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


It's a common skytard ploy- to claim that things like precession support the claims that the sun is radically out of place in the sky. It's a game which Waterbug consistently seems to enjoy playing.
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Come on, menow...
You can do better than that.
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I could sit in my family room, in my recliner, and watch the sun set for 14 years in basically the same place in the sky.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


Of course, as usual for skytards, your basic starting premise is faulty. The sun DID NOT EVER always set in "basically the same place in the sky" all year. Care to begin again with some REAL understanding on how the sky works?
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This is because the MAGNETIC poles are moving. The earth's axis is not shifting.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


Wrong. The axis is always in flux. Read a book.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I know about precession. Precession is too subtle to cause the sun to appear to rise/set 30 - 40 degrees from where it did on a particular day a few years ago.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


...


Wrong. The axis is always in flux. Read a book.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I know about precession. Precession is too subtle to cause the sun to appear to rise/set 30 - 40 degrees from where it did on a particular day a few years ago.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


But... you SAID the axis is not shifting in your rebuttal.
The wobble is variable and proven... the axis is hardly static.
Nor is our solar system... nor is the galaxy.. nor is the universe.

We are discussing anomalies and the discernible effects of this wobble.
The mass distribution of the planet is also in flux.

If you alter the distribution of mass on a spinning object.. what happens..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


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Wrong. The axis is always in flux. Read a book.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I know about precession. Precession is too subtle to cause the sun to appear to rise/set 30 - 40 degrees from where it did on a particular day a few years ago.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


It's a common skytard ploy- to claim that things like precession support the claims that the sun is radically out of place in the sky. It's a game which Waterbug consistently seems to enjoy playing.
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Come on, menow...
You can do better than that.
 Quoting: Waterbug


No need to "do better". It's a simple fact that 'skytards' regularly misrepresent known facts to make their claims seem more valid. It's no different than 'chemtards' claiming that normal contrails don't persist in the sky.
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The water from melting ice is migrating to center from the poles because of centrifugal force...
This is causing Earth's wobble to become variable and erratic.
Thanks to the stabilizing forces of the sun and moon, it is on and off with the seasons.

This is what they don't want you to know.

There are other factors... migrating magma deep in the earth, for instance.
Seawater salt composition and thermohaline function, as well.
 Quoting: Waterbug


You have yet to explain how this would create an unbalanced situation or provide any solid evidence that Earth's axis has shifted to a visible degree.
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Not my problem that you have a learning disability.

Mass re-distribution.
I explained it with the spinning top analogy.

That's as simple as it gets. Sorry.
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The water from melting ice is migrating to center from the poles because of centrifugal force...
This is causing Earth's wobble to become variable and erratic.
Thanks to the stabilizing forces of the sun and moon, it is on and off with the seasons.

This is what they don't want you to know.

There are other factors... migrating magma deep in the earth, for instance.
Seawater salt composition and thermohaline function, as well.
 Quoting: Waterbug

Hi Waterbug

there are some flaws in your chain of thought.

The angular rotation of Earth is the same at any point on Earth.
But is the rotational velocity the same at any point on Earth?
No - it is minimum at the poles (0 km/h) and maximum at the equator (about 1670 km/h).
Since the centrifugal force is dependent on the velocity, most likely the melting water will distribute evenly.
No change in mass contribution - no change to Earth rotational axis.

But let's assume, the melting water will migrate to the equator.
This will increase the mass at the equatorial bulge.
More mass at the equator = more robust rotation = a shift in Earth axis even less likely.

And another question is:
There is water on Earth since hundreds of million years.
If the melting water is migrationg to the Equator, why didn't the rest of the water do so?

And the rest of your hypothesis?
Migrating magma, seawater salt composition, thermohaline function - is this something new since some years or does this happen to Earth since billions of years?

I think the latter - and no signs of a change in Earth rotational axis in history.

Remember the spin tops of your childhood? Did you ever try to tip over a rotating spin top?


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 Quoting: Hydra


The Earth is not a perfect globe..
It has variable mass distribution, already.
Adding or subtracting mass from any area will cause wobble variation.

Adding freshwater to saltwater changes the dynamics and weight of the seawater.

Assuming I am correct... the water doesn't immediately appear at the equatorial bulge.
There are reports of islands disappearing, extreme high tides and abnormal flooding.
 Quoting: Waterbug


"Reports"? From where, Zetatalk? You don't like to be associated with them, but that is where that type of nonsense is mainly originating these days.

This water is coming from somewhere and isn't locale specific, nor is it evenly distributed due to land mass placement.
When it does reach the equator.. the wobble certainly re-stabilizes to normal parameters.
However... during the period of migration.. the wobble is variable.
 Quoting: Waterbug


As if the water 'piles up' somewhere for a while? Heh... not bloody likely.

So.. we have melt... water migration... then freezing..
Variability.
 Quoting: Waterbug


And this alleged variability related to Earth's mass and angular momentum would be what percentage? An approximate figure is fine.

The anomalies are sporadic, variable at different locations and different times.
 Quoting: Waterbug


And this alleged variability related to Earth's mass and angular momentum would be what percentage? An approximate figure is fine.

We also have to account for ocean sea bed elevation changes.
Something is pushing the sea bed upwards in places, possibly plate movement,
 Quoting: Waterbug


According to whom, Nancy Lieder?

migrating magma and/or subduction related.
This also contributes to mass redistribution.
 Quoting: Waterbug


As if this hasn't been happening for millions of years?

We also must account for the voids caused by drilling and removing oil.
The voids are typically filled with water.
Water and oil have different properties, weight and fluid dynamics.
 Quoting: Waterbug


And this alleged variability related to Earth's mass and angular momentum would be what percentage? An approximate figure is fine.

Then we have the migration of magma to consider.
These processes are not static nor are they predictable.
 Quoting: Waterbug


And this alleged variability related to Earth's mass and angular momentum would be what percentage? An approximate figure is fine.

We also have slight variations in orbital speed.
So... we'll take the spinning top.. spins great and true until it slows down... then it wobbles before falling over..
 Quoting: Waterbug


And this alleged variability related to Earth's mass and angular momentum would be what percentage? An approximate figure is fine.

If we take the same child's top... add a slight amount of mass to one side or the other... oriented towards the bottom or top... then we spin it again..
What happens...?

Pretty simple, really.
 Quoting: Waterbug


And this alleged variability related to Earth's mass and angular momentum would be what percentage? An approximate figure is fine.

The ability to align a telescope with Polaris doesn't explain any of this..
 Quoting: Waterbug


You are clearly misrepresenting what is involved telescope alignment and operation.

To say that all alignments are normal and unchanging is laughable.
Once the telescope is aligned, everything is copacetic...
for awhile.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Once again you are attempting to equate TIIINY known changes in Earth's axial tilt and rotation to claims of a LARGE discrepancy in the location of the sun in the sky. It's really transparent of your motives and getting old.
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Polaris is near the celestial pole for only a small fraction of the 25,700-year precession cycle.
 Quoting: Waterbug



The number 26,000 (you mentioned 25,700) keeps coming up in cycles on our earth. Something cycle like that should indicate a repeating action of some sort-- perhaps an orbit. Isn't that one of the time sequences associated with Nibiru?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


I believe that is correct.
I am not that familiar with the Niburu prophecies, per se.
I try to stick to known science.. for obvious reasons.

I have been accused of being a nib-tard..zeta-tard [had to google that one].. or just an idiot.

My initial questioning of the status quo attracted much
ridicule.. strengthening my desire to find out what is
really happening.. and why they were so abusive to me.
I guess they thought I would fade away under scrutiny..

It merely pissed me off.
 Quoting: Waterbug


You might be catching flak because you are parroting Nancy Lieder and Zetatalk's crap, whether you know it or not. Who do you think originally started the whole "sun out of place" notion in the first place? NANCY LIEDER!!
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The water from melting ice is migrating to center from the poles because of centrifugal force...
This is causing Earth's wobble to become variable and erratic.
Thanks to the stabilizing forces of the sun and moon, it is on and off with the seasons.

This is what they don't want you to know.

There are other factors... migrating magma deep in the earth, for instance.
Seawater salt composition and thermohaline function, as well.
 Quoting: Waterbug


You have yet to explain how this would create an unbalanced situation or provide any solid evidence that Earth's axis has shifted to a visible degree.
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Not my problem that you have a learning disability.

Mass re-distribution.
I explained it with the spinning top analogy.

That's as simple as it gets. Sorry.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I found where you go into that now. My bad.
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Menow..

I've been patient but you are pushing me.

If you continue to attempt to discredit me by associating me or my posts with zetas.. I will cease my interaction with you.

I went to the site once... to check it out.

Not for me.
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Its because we are entering the photon belt.
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I'm not making this shit up....


Kiribati in Danger of Disappearing into the Pacific Ocean
[link to www.english-online.at]

Islands disappear under rising seas
[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Strange case of the disappearing islands
[link to www.nzherald.co.nz]
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Menow..

I've been patient but you are pushing me.

If you continue to attempt to discredit me by associating me or my posts with zetas.. I will cease my interaction with you.

I went to the site once... to check it out.

Not for me.
 Quoting: Waterbug


You've been patient. Hilarious! Answer the question: Where do you think the internet notion of "sun out of place" originated?
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I'm not making this shit up....


Kiribati in Danger of Disappearing into the Pacific Ocean
[link to www.english-online.at]

Islands disappear under rising seas
[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Strange case of the disappearing islands
[link to www.nzherald.co.nz]
 Quoting: Waterbug


With whom are you arguing about this? Who is saying that sea levels are not rising? Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"
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Menow..

I've been patient but you are pushing me.

If you continue to attempt to discredit me by associating me or my posts with zetas.. I will cease my interaction with you.

I went to the site once... to check it out.

Not for me.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Allow me to rephrase: Where do you think the internet RUMOR of "sun out of place" originated?
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I'm not making this shit up....


Kiribati in Danger of Disappearing into the Pacific Ocean
[link to www.english-online.at]

Islands disappear under rising seas
[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Strange case of the disappearing islands
[link to www.nzherald.co.nz]
 Quoting: Waterbug


With whom are you arguing about this? Who is saying that sea levels are not rising? Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

I am responding to your post... Don't be so dense.
Did you forget about this..?



Assuming I am correct... the water doesn't immediately appear at the equatorial bulge.
There are reports of islands disappearing, extreme high tides and abnormal flooding.
Quoting: Waterbug


"Reports"? From where, Zetatalk? You don't like to be associated with them, but that is where that type of nonsense is mainly originating these days.
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I'm not making this shit up....


Kiribati in Danger of Disappearing into the Pacific Ocean
[link to www.english-online.at]

Islands disappear under rising seas
[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Strange case of the disappearing islands
[link to www.nzherald.co.nz]
 Quoting: Waterbug


With whom are you arguing about this? Who is saying that sea levels are not rising? Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

I am responding to your post... Don't be so dense.
Did you forget about this..?



Assuming I am correct... the water doesn't immediately appear at the equatorial bulge.
There are reports of islands disappearing, extreme high tides and abnormal flooding.
Quoting: Waterbug
 Quoting: Waterbug


"Immediately"? So how long do you imagine that water could sort of "hang up" before making it to the equatorial bulge? Within weeks, if not less, the majority of sea level increase would be at the equator, would it not?

"Reports"? From where, Zetatalk? You don't like to be associated with them, but that is where that type of nonsense is mainly originating these days.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I didn't say Zetatalk was creating the stories, but they are the ones who are compiling them and from there they proliferate across the internet as "evidence" supporting Nancy's general claims. Nancy is claiming that there is "sinking" of land masses going on. THAT is why she is compiling and disseminating those stories.

I never attempted to argue that sea levels are not rising.

Many if not most of the conspiracy sites which talk about Nibiru contain supposed "evidence" which originally was compiled and "explained" (SPUN) by Nancy Lieder to support her Planet X story- they just don't realize it.

Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"
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I'm not making this shit up....


Kiribati in Danger of Disappearing into the Pacific Ocean
[link to www.english-online.at]

Islands disappear under rising seas
[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Strange case of the disappearing islands
[link to www.nzherald.co.nz]
 Quoting: Waterbug


With whom are you arguing about this? Who is saying that sea levels are not rising? Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

I am responding to your post... Don't be so dense.
Did you forget about this..?



Assuming I am correct... the water doesn't immediately appear at the equatorial bulge.
There are reports of islands disappearing, extreme high tides and abnormal flooding.
Quoting: Waterbug
 Quoting: Waterbug


"Immediately"? So how long do you imagine that water could sort of "hang up" before making it to the equatorial bulge? Within weeks, if not less, the majority of sea level increase would be at the equator, would it not?

"Reports"? From where, Zetatalk? You don't like to be associated with them, but that is where that type of nonsense is mainly originating these days.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I didn't say Zetatalk was creating the stories, but they are the ones who are compiling them and from there they proliferate across the internet as "evidence" supporting Nancy's general claims. Nancy is claiming that there is "sinking" of land masses going on. THAT is why she is compiling and disseminating those stories.

I never attempted to argue that sea levels are not rising.

Many if not most of the conspiracy sites which talk about Nibiru contain supposed "evidence" which originally was compiled and "explained" (SPUN) by Nancy Lieder to support her Planet X story- they just don't realize it.

Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Most of what I know about zeta I learned from
being accused of disseminating whatever it is that
they disseminate.
My thoughts and conclusions are my own.

I am a professional musician.. Never claimed to
be anything else and certainly never proposed
that I was an expert on any of this.

You and your ilk are pretentious assholes..
throwing a little knowledge around.. as though you were omniscient..
Let me clue you in..
There are 10 year olds with more scientific knowledge and intelligence than you will ever have.

So keep up the good work.. ridiculing those
who attempt to garner information about things
that they don't understand.
I guess that helps distract you from acknowledging your inferiority complexes.

See ya... wouldn't wanna be ya..
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With whom are you arguing about this? Who is saying that sea levels are not rising? Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

I am responding to your post... Don't be so dense.
Did you forget about this..?



Assuming I am correct... the water doesn't immediately appear at the equatorial bulge.
There are reports of islands disappearing, extreme high tides and abnormal flooding.
Quoting: Waterbug
 Quoting: Waterbug


"Immediately"? So how long do you imagine that water could sort of "hang up" before making it to the equatorial bulge? Within weeks, if not less, the majority of sea level increase would be at the equator, would it not?

"Reports"? From where, Zetatalk? You don't like to be associated with them, but that is where that type of nonsense is mainly originating these days.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I didn't say Zetatalk was creating the stories, but they are the ones who are compiling them and from there they proliferate across the internet as "evidence" supporting Nancy's general claims. Nancy is claiming that there is "sinking" of land masses going on. THAT is why she is compiling and disseminating those stories.

I never attempted to argue that sea levels are not rising.

Many if not most of the conspiracy sites which talk about Nibiru contain supposed "evidence" which originally was compiled and "explained" (SPUN) by Nancy Lieder to support her Planet X story- they just don't realize it.

Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Most of what I know about zeta I learned from
being accused of disseminating whatever it is that
they disseminate.
My thoughts and conclusions are my own.

I am a professional musician.. Never claimed to
be anything else and certainly never proposed
that I was an expert on any of this.

You and your ilk are pretentious assholes..
throwing a little knowledge around.. as though you were omniscient..
Let me clue you in..
There are 10 year olds with more scientific knowledge and intelligence than you will ever have.

So keep up the good work.. ridiculing those
who attempt to garner information about things
that they don't understand.
I guess that helps distract you from acknowledging your inferiority complexes.

See ya... wouldn't wanna be ya..
 Quoting: Waterbug


Except that they usually DON'T actually want to garner information. They only want to find reinforcement for the erroneous notions they have adopted about the sun. We provide accurate information to them, but are attacked as "shills" for our trouble. This is primarily because the central belief held by most of the 'skytard' type of person is that there is a vast conspiracy controlling things around them.

I have asked you, more than once, where you think this idea you are supporting originated. The internet rumor of an abnormally tilted Earth, causing a "sun out of place" situation originated with none other than NANCY LIEDER.
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Except that they usually DON'T actually want to garner information. They only want to find reinforcement for the erroneous notions they have adopted about the sun. We provide accurate information to them, but are attacked as "shills" for our trouble. This is primarily because the central belief held by most of the 'skytard' type of person is that there is a vast conspiracy controlling things around them.


 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Last time I checked... this was a conspiracy site.
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I am responding to your post... Don't be so dense.
Did you forget about this..?



Assuming I am correct... the water doesn't immediately appear at the equatorial bulge.
There are reports of islands disappearing, extreme high tides and abnormal flooding.
Quoting: Waterbug
 Quoting: Waterbug


"Immediately"? So how long do you imagine that water could sort of "hang up" before making it to the equatorial bulge? Within weeks, if not less, the majority of sea level increase would be at the equator, would it not?

"Reports"? From where, Zetatalk? You don't like to be associated with them, but that is where that type of nonsense is mainly originating these days.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I didn't say Zetatalk was creating the stories, but they are the ones who are compiling them and from there they proliferate across the internet as "evidence" supporting Nancy's general claims. Nancy is claiming that there is "sinking" of land masses going on. THAT is why she is compiling and disseminating those stories.

I never attempted to argue that sea levels are not rising.

Many if not most of the conspiracy sites which talk about Nibiru contain supposed "evidence" which originally was compiled and "explained" (SPUN) by Nancy Lieder to support her Planet X story- they just don't realize it.

Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Most of what I know about zeta I learned from
being accused of disseminating whatever it is that
they disseminate.
My thoughts and conclusions are my own.

I am a professional musician.. Never claimed to
be anything else and certainly never proposed
that I was an expert on any of this.

You and your ilk are pretentious assholes..
throwing a little knowledge around.. as though you were omniscient..
Let me clue you in..
There are 10 year olds with more scientific knowledge and intelligence than you will ever have.

So keep up the good work.. ridiculing those
who attempt to garner information about things
that they don't understand.
I guess that helps distract you from acknowledging your inferiority complexes.

See ya... wouldn't wanna be ya..
 Quoting: Waterbug


Except that they usually DON'T actually want to garner information. They only want to find reinforcement for the erroneous notions they have adopted about the sun. We provide accurate information to them, but are attacked as "shills" for our trouble.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Let me get this straight. When they gather accurate information, the are doing it to reinforce their erroneous theories. When you address this information, your 'diagnosis' is that it is falacious.

If you have the background to judge this as confidently as you appear, then out with it. What are your credentials, Menow? All I have seen is that you attack. You are destructive, not constructive. You are nasty and divisive. You are not a man of science but a ne'er-do-well who either holds this as his job, or lives off of the govt. in some other capacity and sits on GLP all day arguing in his underwear. So come on now, what are your credentials? Back up the mouth.
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I am responding to your post... Don't be so dense.
Did you forget about this..?



Assuming I am correct... the water doesn't immediately appear at the equatorial bulge.
There are reports of islands disappearing, extreme high tides and abnormal flooding.
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"Immediately"? So how long do you imagine that water could sort of "hang up" before making it to the equatorial bulge? Within weeks, if not less, the majority of sea level increase would be at the equator, would it not?

"Reports"? From where, Zetatalk? You don't like to be associated with them, but that is where that type of nonsense is mainly originating these days.
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I didn't say Zetatalk was creating the stories, but they are the ones who are compiling them and from there they proliferate across the internet as "evidence" supporting Nancy's general claims. Nancy is claiming that there is "sinking" of land masses going on. THAT is why she is compiling and disseminating those stories.

I never attempted to argue that sea levels are not rising.

Many if not most of the conspiracy sites which talk about Nibiru contain supposed "evidence" which originally was compiled and "explained" (SPUN) by Nancy Lieder to support her Planet X story- they just don't realize it.

Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Most of what I know about zeta I learned from
being accused of disseminating whatever it is that
they disseminate.
My thoughts and conclusions are my own.

I am a professional musician.. Never claimed to
be anything else and certainly never proposed
that I was an expert on any of this.

You and your ilk are pretentious assholes..
throwing a little knowledge around.. as though you were omniscient..
Let me clue you in..
There are 10 year olds with more scientific knowledge and intelligence than you will ever have.

So keep up the good work.. ridiculing those
who attempt to garner information about things
that they don't understand.
I guess that helps distract you from acknowledging your inferiority complexes.

See ya... wouldn't wanna be ya..
 Quoting: Waterbug


Except that they usually DON'T actually want to garner information. They only want to find reinforcement for the erroneous notions they have adopted about the sun. We provide accurate information to them, but are attacked as "shills" for our trouble. This is primarily because the central belief held by most of the 'skytard' type of person is that there is a vast conspiracy controlling things around them.

I have asked you, more than once, where you think this idea you are supporting originated. The internet rumor of an abnormally tilted Earth, causing a "sun out of place" situation originated with none other than NANCY LIEDER.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Yes, why are you so pathologically confident that you understand the whole picture? Who are you that you purport to know so much? Men of true intellect know enough that they realize that they DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING, yet you have the whole scene confidently sewn up from the get-go. See Menow, this is why we are able to call you out. YOU BEGIN FROM A POSITION OF BIAS, NOT ASSIMILATING EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY, ALWAYS OUT OF THE GATE WITH ARGUMENTATION. You are a characature of a real intellectual and anyone with average powers of reasoning can readily see you for what you are. From my perspective, you are one of 2 things:

1. A Shill

2. Mentally Unbalanced.

Which is it?
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I could sit in my family room, in my recliner, and watch the sun set for 14 years in basically the same place in the sky. The window that I watched it from opens to my back yard. I would see it set at the right-most edge of the window that my recliner is set next to. Last summer, I couldn't see it set from there because the sun was setting in an area I could only see from the FRONT of my house.

I didn't know about Nibiru then. Now this makes sense.
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Dear OP

when you noticed since last summer, that the sun is off - please explain how the Venus transit in June occured exact as calculated back in the early 19-hundreds.


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Oh please. Get over it. I and 4 or 5 others have said the same thing. You're debunking nothing and you look like a clown.
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That's your answer to my question? That 4 or 5 others have said the same dumb thing?

Very elaborate answer.


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We are reporting eye witness testimony. What does your answer/question have to do with this thread?
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from Fox news:
Tampa had to change runways because of pole shift

[link to www.foxnews.com]
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MAGNETIC NORTH POLE!

Not the rotational north pole…

nice try though.
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Except that they usually DON'T actually want to garner information. They only want to find reinforcement for the erroneous notions they have adopted about the sun. We provide accurate information to them, but are attacked as "shills" for our trouble. This is primarily because the central belief held by most of the 'skytard' type of person is that there is a vast conspiracy controlling things around them.


 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Last time I checked... this was a conspiracy site.
 Quoting: Waterbug


And?
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"Immediately"? So how long do you imagine that water could sort of "hang up" before making it to the equatorial bulge? Within weeks, if not less, the majority of sea level increase would be at the equator, would it not?

...


I didn't say Zetatalk was creating the stories, but they are the ones who are compiling them and from there they proliferate across the internet as "evidence" supporting Nancy's general claims. Nancy is claiming that there is "sinking" of land masses going on. THAT is why she is compiling and disseminating those stories.

I never attempted to argue that sea levels are not rising.

Many if not most of the conspiracy sites which talk about Nibiru contain supposed "evidence" which originally was compiled and "explained" (SPUN) by Nancy Lieder to support her Planet X story- they just don't realize it.

Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Most of what I know about zeta I learned from
being accused of disseminating whatever it is that
they disseminate.
My thoughts and conclusions are my own.

I am a professional musician.. Never claimed to
be anything else and certainly never proposed
that I was an expert on any of this.

You and your ilk are pretentious assholes..
throwing a little knowledge around.. as though you were omniscient..
Let me clue you in..
There are 10 year olds with more scientific knowledge and intelligence than you will ever have.

So keep up the good work.. ridiculing those
who attempt to garner information about things
that they don't understand.
I guess that helps distract you from acknowledging your inferiority complexes.

See ya... wouldn't wanna be ya..
 Quoting: Waterbug


Except that they usually DON'T actually want to garner information. They only want to find reinforcement for the erroneous notions they have adopted about the sun. We provide accurate information to them, but are attacked as "shills" for our trouble. This is primarily because the central belief held by most of the 'skytard' type of person is that there is a vast conspiracy controlling things around them.

I have asked you, more than once, where you think this idea you are supporting originated. The internet rumor of an abnormally tilted Earth, causing a "sun out of place" situation originated with none other than NANCY LIEDER.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Yes, why are you so pathologically confident that you understand the whole picture? Who are you that you purport to know so much? Men of true intellect know enough that they realize that they DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING, yet you have the whole scene confidently sewn up from the get-go. See Menow, this is why we are able to call you out. YOU BEGIN FROM A POSITION OF BIAS, NOT ASSIMILATING EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY, ALWAYS OUT OF THE GATE WITH ARGUMENTATION. You are a characature of a real intellectual and anyone with average powers of reasoning can readily see you for what you are. From my perspective, you are one of 2 things:

1. A Shill

2. Mentally Unbalanced.

Which is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30040945


Since GLP is covering up your history of replies, I can only deduce that you are a shill.
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Most of what I know about zeta I learned from
being accused of disseminating whatever it is that
they disseminate.
My thoughts and conclusions are my own.

I am a professional musician.. Never claimed to
be anything else and certainly never proposed
that I was an expert on any of this.

You and your ilk are pretentious assholes..
throwing a little knowledge around.. as though you were omniscient..
Let me clue you in..
There are 10 year olds with more scientific knowledge and intelligence than you will ever have.

So keep up the good work.. ridiculing those
who attempt to garner information about things
that they don't understand.
I guess that helps distract you from acknowledging your inferiority complexes.

See ya... wouldn't wanna be ya..
 Quoting: Waterbug


Except that they usually DON'T actually want to garner information. They only want to find reinforcement for the erroneous notions they have adopted about the sun. We provide accurate information to them, but are attacked as "shills" for our trouble. This is primarily because the central belief held by most of the 'skytard' type of person is that there is a vast conspiracy controlling things around them.

I have asked you, more than once, where you think this idea you are supporting originated. The internet rumor of an abnormally tilted Earth, causing a "sun out of place" situation originated with none other than NANCY LIEDER.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Yes, why are you so pathologically confident that you understand the whole picture? Who are you that you purport to know so much? Men of true intellect know enough that they realize that they DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING, yet you have the whole scene confidently sewn up from the get-go. See Menow, this is why we are able to call you out. YOU BEGIN FROM A POSITION OF BIAS, NOT ASSIMILATING EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY, ALWAYS OUT OF THE GATE WITH ARGUMENTATION. You are a characature of a real intellectual and anyone with average powers of reasoning can readily see you for what you are. From my perspective, you are one of 2 things:

1. A Shill

2. Mentally Unbalanced.

Which is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30040945


Since GLP is covering up your history of replies, I can only deduce that you are a shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30040945


Of course, you could also be a mentally unbalanced shill. Being a shill or being mentally unbalanced aren't mutually exclusive.
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"Immediately"? So how long do you imagine that water could sort of "hang up" before making it to the equatorial bulge? Within weeks, if not less, the majority of sea level increase would be at the equator, would it not?

...


I didn't say Zetatalk was creating the stories, but they are the ones who are compiling them and from there they proliferate across the internet as "evidence" supporting Nancy's general claims. Nancy is claiming that there is "sinking" of land masses going on. THAT is why she is compiling and disseminating those stories.

I never attempted to argue that sea levels are not rising.

Many if not most of the conspiracy sites which talk about Nibiru contain supposed "evidence" which originally was compiled and "explained" (SPUN) by Nancy Lieder to support her Planet X story- they just don't realize it.

Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Most of what I know about zeta I learned from
being accused of disseminating whatever it is that
they disseminate.
My thoughts and conclusions are my own.

I am a professional musician.. Never claimed to
be anything else and certainly never proposed
that I was an expert on any of this.

You and your ilk are pretentious assholes..
throwing a little knowledge around.. as though you were omniscient..
Let me clue you in..
There are 10 year olds with more scientific knowledge and intelligence than you will ever have.

So keep up the good work.. ridiculing those
who attempt to garner information about things
that they don't understand.
I guess that helps distract you from acknowledging your inferiority complexes.

See ya... wouldn't wanna be ya..
 Quoting: Waterbug


Except that they usually DON'T actually want to garner information. They only want to find reinforcement for the erroneous notions they have adopted about the sun. We provide accurate information to them, but are attacked as "shills" for our trouble.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Let me get this straight. When they gather accurate information, the are doing it to reinforce their erroneous theories.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30040945


No, they don't seem to gather accurate information. They reject it.

When you address this information, your 'diagnosis' is that it is falacious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30040945

No, I don't say that accurate information is fallacious. What gave you that idea?

If you have the background to judge this as confidently as you appear, then out with it. What are your credentials, Menow?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30040945


Credentials? It doesn't take much in the way of credentials to recognize the foolishness of the idea that the sun is in the wrong place in the sky.

All I have seen is that you attack. You are destructive, not constructive. You are nasty and divisive. You are not a man of science but a ne'er-do-well who either holds this as his job, or lives off of the govt. in some other capacity and sits on GLP all day arguing in his underwear. So come on now, what are your credentials? Back up the mouth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30040945


See above. Anybody can look up the location of sunrise for their area, or the definition of various types of twilight, etc. It just isn't rocket science and once you learn the least little bit about astronomy (I actually have Nancy Lieder and her story to thank for pushing me to do that) it is simply a no-brainer to realize how determinedly deluded skytards are. It takes real work for them to avoid all the available information proving them wrong. I have actually entertained the idea that they literally inhabit a different reality than do others of us because it seems so impossible that they believe what they believe.

How about you? Why don't you take some time to explain what you believe about the sun's alleged "wrong" positions in the sky? I's love to have someone like you who SEEMS to be able to express themselves articulate why you think the sun is in the wrong place in the sky and how the world's astronomers are, what... either incompetent or involved in a vast conspiracy to hide what they know.

Please take some time to explain and justify your position and beliefs.
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I could sit in my family room, in my recliner, and watch the sun set for 14 years in basically the same place in the sky.
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Of course, as usual for skytards, your basic starting premise is faulty. The sun DID NOT EVER always set in "basically the same place in the sky" all year. Care to begin again with some REAL understanding on how the sky works?
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It's a straightforward observation you pathological idiot. Why do I need to embellish it? As the saying goes, it is what it is?

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