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Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place

 
Menow
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"Immediately"? So how long do you imagine that water could sort of "hang up" before making it to the equatorial bulge? Within weeks, if not less, the majority of sea level increase would be at the equator, would it not?

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I didn't say Zetatalk was creating the stories, but they are the ones who are compiling them and from there they proliferate across the internet as "evidence" supporting Nancy's general claims. Nancy is claiming that there is "sinking" of land masses going on. THAT is why she is compiling and disseminating those stories.

I never attempted to argue that sea levels are not rising.

Many if not most of the conspiracy sites which talk about Nibiru contain supposed "evidence" which originally was compiled and "explained" (SPUN) by Nancy Lieder to support her Planet X story- they just don't realize it.

Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Most of what I know about zeta I learned from
being accused of disseminating whatever it is that
they disseminate.
My thoughts and conclusions are my own.

I am a professional musician.. Never claimed to
be anything else and certainly never proposed
that I was an expert on any of this.

You and your ilk are pretentious assholes..
throwing a little knowledge around.. as though you were omniscient..
Let me clue you in..
There are 10 year olds with more scientific knowledge and intelligence than you will ever have.

So keep up the good work.. ridiculing those
who attempt to garner information about things
that they don't understand.
I guess that helps distract you from acknowledging your inferiority complexes.

See ya... wouldn't wanna be ya..
 Quoting: Waterbug


Except that they usually DON'T actually want to garner information. They only want to find reinforcement for the erroneous notions they have adopted about the sun. We provide accurate information to them, but are attacked as "shills" for our trouble. This is primarily because the central belief held by most of the 'skytard' type of person is that there is a vast conspiracy controlling things around them.

I have asked you, more than once, where you think this idea you are supporting originated. The internet rumor of an abnormally tilted Earth, causing a "sun out of place" situation originated with none other than NANCY LIEDER.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Yes, why are you so pathologically confident that you understand the whole picture?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30040945


What "whole picture"? When I have I stated that I understand more than the details directly involved in determining the scientific validity of claims like "sun out of place"?


Who are you that you purport to know so much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30040945


Know "so much"? See above.

Men of true intellect know enough that they realize that they DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING, yet you have the whole scene confidently sewn up from the get-go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30040945


"Whole scene"? See above.


See Menow, this is why we are able to call you out. YOU BEGIN FROM A POSITION OF BIAS, NOT ASSIMILATING EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY, ALWAYS OUT OF THE GATE WITH ARGUMENTATION.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30040945


Even the legal system is having to come to terms with the fact that "eyewitness testimony" is not as reliable as it was once assumed. Why would I accept wild stories from random people on the internet when I understand the ramifications of what they are saying? Apparently YOU don't understand the ramifications of what they are saying. It simply isn't possible that a few to even several hundred people have "noticed" something which would be the biggest event in the history of Mankind on Earth, while the world's astronomers are oblivious to it. What don't you GET about that?

You are a characature of a real intellectual and anyone with average powers of reasoning can readily see you for what you are. From my perspective, you are one of 2 things:

1. A Shill

2. Mentally Unbalanced.

Which is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30040945


You are welcome to your perspective, but why don't you support the specific claims being made? You have spent some time attacking me, personally, but where is the evidence showing that what I am saying is wrong and that the 'skytards' are right? Put your "average powers of reasoning" to work on supporting your side of the argument, hmm?
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12/16/2012 10:53 AM
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With whom are you arguing about this? Who is saying that sea levels are not rising? Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

I am responding to your post... Don't be so dense.
Did you forget about this..?



Assuming I am correct... the water doesn't immediately appear at the equatorial bulge.
There are reports of islands disappearing, extreme high tides and abnormal flooding.
Quoting: Waterbug
 Quoting: Waterbug


"Immediately"? So how long do you imagine that water could sort of "hang up" before making it to the equatorial bulge? Within weeks, if not less, the majority of sea level increase would be at the equator, would it not?

"Reports"? From where, Zetatalk? You don't like to be associated with them, but that is where that type of nonsense is mainly originating these days.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I didn't say Zetatalk was creating the stories, but they are the ones who are compiling them and from there they proliferate across the internet as "evidence" supporting Nancy's general claims. Nancy is claiming that there is "sinking" of land masses going on. THAT is why she is compiling and disseminating those stories.

I never attempted to argue that sea levels are not rising.

Many if not most of the conspiracy sites which talk about Nibiru contain supposed "evidence" which originally was compiled and "explained" (SPUN) by Nancy Lieder to support her Planet X story- they just don't realize it.

Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Most of what I know about zeta I learned from
being accused of disseminating whatever it is that
they disseminate.
My thoughts and conclusions are my own.

I am a professional musician..
Never claimed to
be anything else and certainly never proposed
that I was an expert on any of this.

You and your ilk are pretentious assholes..
throwing a little knowledge around.. as though you were omniscient..
Let me clue you in..
There are 10 year olds with more scientific knowledge and intelligence than you will ever have.

So keep up the good work.. ridiculing those
who attempt to garner information about things
that they don't understand.
I guess that helps distract you from acknowledging your inferiority complexes.

See ya... wouldn't wanna be ya..
 Quoting: Waterbug



French Horn or Tuba?

Certainly not ready for your solo yet, in astronomical terms…


You are best suited for background noise.

Look! I didn't call you an idiot! I don't really need too...
Menow
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12/16/2012 10:55 AM
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Re: Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place
I could sit in my family room, in my recliner, and watch the sun set for 14 years in basically the same place in the sky.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29594478


Of course, as usual for skytards, your basic starting premise is faulty. The sun DID NOT EVER always set in "basically the same place in the sky" all year. Care to begin again with some REAL understanding on how the sky works?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


It's a straightforward observation you pathological idiot. Why do I need to embellish it? As the saying goes, it is what it is?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30040945


Are you saying that was YOUR observation? Apparently you don't GET that the sun simply does not always set in the same place on the horizon over 14 years. Not even close. I didn't ask for any embellishment- I simply stated that the "observation" can't be accurate due to the WELL-known effect of the changing seasons on the location of sunsets.

The basic beginning premise is faulty, therefor, any conclusions based on that are meaningless.
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12/16/2012 11:07 AM
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Let's take a step back and look at this issue in it's simplest terms…

The only way you could believe this premise is if you also believed that EVERY amateur astronomer in the world (not your little circle of friends) is hiding the single largest discovery in the history of the world. You would have to believe that of all of the people on this planet that use their personal equipment to monitor the sky every night have not noticed that things have moved "30 to 40 degrees". You would have to believe that the people that care enough about the stars to study them nightly don't care enough to tell us that there is a problem. You would have to believe that the charts that predict the exact location of all our celestial neighbors and have been correct for hundreds of years are now being ignored when the starts don't match their expected location. You would have to believe the hundreds of thousands of independent people, most of which do not know each other, are all in on this massive cover up.

Seriously?

That is your position?

And you base this position of the fact that the sun is shining in a spot that you don't remember it shining on before? Really?

Thai is your learned and sincere position? Seriously?

And then you are willing to ARGUE that position at length, with the only supporting information you site is a personal attack on those that don't agree with you? Honestly? That is your true position on this issue?


Now, take a deep breath and respond to this post without attacking me personally - just attack the vast network of amateur astronomers on this plant...
Menow
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12/16/2012 11:17 AM
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Let's take a step back and look at this issue in it's simplest terms…

The only way you could believe this premise is if you also believed that EVERY amateur astronomer in the world (not your little circle of friends) is hiding the single largest discovery in the history of the world. You would have to believe that of all of the people on this planet that use their personal equipment to monitor the sky every night have not noticed that things have moved "30 to 40 degrees". You would have to believe that the people that care enough about the stars to study them nightly don't care enough to tell us that there is a problem. You would have to believe that the charts that predict the exact location of all our celestial neighbors and have been correct for hundreds of years are now being ignored when the starts don't match their expected location. You would have to believe the hundreds of thousands of independent people, most of which do not know each other, are all in on this massive cover up.

Seriously?

That is your position?

And you base this position of the fact that the sun is shining in a spot that you don't remember it shining on before? Really?

Thai is your learned and sincere position? Seriously?

And then you are willing to ARGUE that position at length, with the only supporting information you site is a personal attack on those that don't agree with you? Honestly? That is your true position on this issue?


Now, take a deep breath and respond to this post without attacking me personally - just attack the vast network of amateur astronomers on this plant...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30043355


"Let's take a step back and look at this issue in it's simplest terms…"

They can't, won't, never have and never will.
Waterbug

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12/16/2012 12:13 PM

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See ya... wouldn't wanna be ya..
 Quoting: Waterbug



French Horn or Tuba?

Certainly not ready for your solo yet, in astronomical terms…


You are best suited for background noise.

Look! I didn't call you an idiot! I don't really need too...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30043355


I guess in your closed little mind, a french horn or tuba player is an inferior musician, correct..?

Actually, I am a guitarist, bassist, drummer, singer, songwriter and part-time producer in Nashville.
I've starred in Broadway plays as an actor and have appeared on TV and in major motion pictures.
I've been in show business, professionally, since I was a child. Not a bogus overnight sensation,
American Idol type, manufactured product, star.
I've made my living in a cutthroat industry for over 45 years. Balls of steel, sonny.

You've probably enjoyed some of the productions [i.e. background noise] that I've been in, over the years.

What of it, twerp..?
Hydra

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12/16/2012 01:20 PM

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Re: Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place
Dear OP

when you noticed since last summer, that the sun is off - please explain how the Venus transit in June occured exact as calculated back in the early 19-hundreds.
 Quoting: Hydra

Oh please. Get over it. I and 4 or 5 others have said the same thing. You're debunking nothing and you look like a clown.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29910948

That's your answer to my question? That 4 or 5 others have said the same dumb thing?

Very elaborate answer.
 Quoting: Hydra

We are reporting eye witness testimony. What does your answer/question have to do with this thread?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30040945

"I've seen the Pope and Obama naked at the St. Peter's Square in Rome." - Eye witness testimony
"I saw it too and the pope has a short ****." - Eye witness testimony
"And they were dancing!" - Eye witness testimony
"And his wife too" - Eye witness testimony


"Obama meets war veterans in Washington" - MSM report
"Pope visits Kolkatta" - MSM report
"Bad April Fools Day joke: Pope and Obama at the St. Peter's Square" - MSM report

Thus, according to your statement, I can take it for granted, that the Pope has a short willie, and he, his wife and Obama were dancing naked at the St. Peter's Square in Rome.


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Last Edited by Hydra on 12/16/2012 01:20 PM
If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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This is being continued here, same shills too!

Thread: The Sun Was Supposed To Set At 4:41 Central Time In Missouri, 12/18 , Still Hasn't Set At 5:01
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