Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place

It's a common skytard ploy- to claim that things like precession support the claims that the sun is radically out of place in the sky. It's a game which Waterbug consistently seems to enjoy playing.

You have yet to explain how this would create an unbalanced situation or provide any solid evidence that Earth's axis has shifted to a visible degree.

Come on, menow...
You can do better than that.

Of course, as usual for skytards, your basic starting premise is faulty. The sun DID NOT EVER always set in "basically the same place in the sky" all year. Care to begin again with some REAL understanding on how the sky works?

No need to "do better". It's a simple fact that 'skytards' regularly misrepresent known facts to make their claims seem more valid. It's no different than 'chemtards' claiming that normal contrails don't persist in the sky.

Not my problem that you have a learning disability.

Mass re-distribution.
I explained it with the spinning top analogy.

That's as simple as it gets. Sorry.

"Reports"? From where, Zetatalk? You don't like to be associated with them, but that is where that type of nonsense is mainly originating these days.



As if the water 'piles up' somewhere for a while? Heh... not bloody likely.



And this alleged variability related to Earth's mass and angular momentum would be what percentage? An approximate figure is fine.



And this alleged variability related to Earth's mass and angular momentum would be what percentage? An approximate figure is fine.



According to whom, Nancy Lieder?



As if this hasn't been happening for millions of years?



And this alleged variability related to Earth's mass and angular momentum would be what percentage? An approximate figure is fine.



And this alleged variability related to Earth's mass and angular momentum would be what percentage? An approximate figure is fine.



And this alleged variability related to Earth's mass and angular momentum would be what percentage? An approximate figure is fine.



And this alleged variability related to Earth's mass and angular momentum would be what percentage? An approximate figure is fine.



You are clearly misrepresenting what is involved telescope alignment and operation.



Once again you are attempting to equate TIIINY known changes in Earth's axial tilt and rotation to claims of a LARGE discrepancy in the location of the sun in the sky. It's really transparent of your motives and getting old.

You might be catching flak because you are parroting Nancy Lieder and Zetatalk's crap, whether you know it or not. Who do you think originally started the whole "sun out of place" notion in the first place? NANCY LIEDER!!

I found where you go into that now. My bad.

Menow..

I've been patient but you are pushing me.

If you continue to attempt to discredit me by associating me or my posts with zetas.. I will cease my interaction with you.

I went to the site once... to check it out.

Not for me.

Its because we are entering the photon belt.

I'm not making this shit up....


Kiribati in Danger of Disappearing into the Pacific Ocean
[link to www.english-online.at]

Islands disappear under rising seas
[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Strange case of the disappearing islands
[link to www.nzherald.co.nz]

You've been patient. Hilarious! Answer the question: Where do you think the internet notion of "sun out of place" originated?

With whom are you arguing about this? Who is saying that sea levels are not rising? Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"

Allow me to rephrase: Where do you think the internet RUMOR of "sun out of place" originated?

I am responding to your post... Don't be so dense.
Did you forget about this..?



Assuming I am correct... the water doesn't immediately appear at the equatorial bulge.
There are reports of islands disappearing, extreme high tides and abnormal flooding.
Quoting: Waterbug


"Reports"? From where, Zetatalk? You don't like to be associated with them, but that is where that type of nonsense is mainly originating these days.

"Immediately"? So how long do you imagine that water could sort of "hang up" before making it to the equatorial bulge? Within weeks, if not less, the majority of sea level increase would be at the equator, would it not?



I didn't say Zetatalk was creating the stories, but they are the ones who are compiling them and from there they proliferate across the internet as "evidence" supporting Nancy's general claims. Nancy is claiming that there is "sinking" of land masses going on. THAT is why she is compiling and disseminating those stories.

I never attempted to argue that sea levels are not rising.

Many if not most of the conspiracy sites which talk about Nibiru contain supposed "evidence" which originally was compiled and "explained" (SPUN) by Nancy Lieder to support her Planet X story- they just don't realize it.

Let me remind you of the subject of this thread: "Last Summer I Noticed The Sun Was Setting 30 to 40 Degrees Off From It's Usual Place"

Most of what I know about zeta I learned from
being accused of disseminating whatever it is that
they disseminate.
My thoughts and conclusions are my own.

I am a professional musician.. Never claimed to
be anything else and certainly never proposed
that I was an expert on any of this.

You and your ilk are pretentious assholes..
throwing a little knowledge around.. as though you were omniscient..
Let me clue you in..
There are 10 year olds with more scientific knowledge and intelligence than you will ever have.

So keep up the good work.. ridiculing those
who attempt to garner information about things
that they don't understand.
I guess that helps distract you from acknowledging your inferiority complexes.

See ya... wouldn't wanna be ya..

Except that they usually DON'T actually want to garner information. They only want to find reinforcement for the erroneous notions they have adopted about the sun. We provide accurate information to them, but are attacked as "shills" for our trouble. This is primarily because the central belief held by most of the 'skytard' type of person is that there is a vast conspiracy controlling things around them.

I have asked you, more than once, where you think this idea you are supporting originated. The internet rumor of an abnormally tilted Earth, causing a "sun out of place" situation originated with none other than NANCY LIEDER.

Last time I checked... this was a conspiracy site.

Let me get this straight. When they gather accurate information, the are doing it to reinforce their erroneous theories. When you address this information, your 'diagnosis' is that it is falacious.

If you have the background to judge this as confidently as you appear, then out with it. What are your credentials, Menow? All I have seen is that you attack. You are destructive, not constructive. You are nasty and divisive. You are not a man of science but a ne'er-do-well who either holds this as his job, or lives off of the govt. in some other capacity and sits on GLP all day arguing in his underwear. So come on now, what are your credentials? Back up the mouth.

Yes, why are you so pathologically confident that you understand the whole picture? Who are you that you purport to know so much? Men of true intellect know enough that they realize that they DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING, yet you have the whole scene confidently sewn up from the get-go. See Menow, this is why we are able to call you out. YOU BEGIN FROM A POSITION OF BIAS, NOT ASSIMILATING EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY, ALWAYS OUT OF THE GATE WITH ARGUMENTATION. You are a characature of a real intellectual and anyone with average powers of reasoning can readily see you for what you are. From my perspective, you are one of 2 things:

1. A Shill

2. Mentally Unbalanced.

Which is it?

We are reporting eye witness testimony. What does your answer/question have to do with this thread?

MAGNETIC NORTH POLE!

Not the rotational north pole…

nice try though.

And?

Since GLP is covering up your history of replies, I can only deduce that you are a shill.

Of course, you could also be a mentally unbalanced shill. Being a shill or being mentally unbalanced aren't mutually exclusive.

No, they don't seem to gather accurate information. They reject it.


No, I don't say that accurate information is fallacious. What gave you that idea?



Credentials? It doesn't take much in the way of credentials to recognize the foolishness of the idea that the sun is in the wrong place in the sky.



See above. Anybody can look up the location of sunrise for their area, or the definition of various types of twilight, etc. It just isn't rocket science and once you learn the least little bit about astronomy (I actually have Nancy Lieder and her story to thank for pushing me to do that) it is simply a no-brainer to realize how determinedly deluded skytards are. It takes real work for them to avoid all the available information proving them wrong. I have actually entertained the idea that they literally inhabit a different reality than do others of us because it seems so impossible that they believe what they believe.

How about you? Why don't you take some time to explain what you believe about the sun's alleged "wrong" positions in the sky? I's love to have someone like you who SEEMS to be able to express themselves articulate why you think the sun is in the wrong place in the sky and how the world's astronomers are, what... either incompetent or involved in a vast conspiracy to hide what they know.

Please take some time to explain and justify your position and beliefs.

It's a straightforward observation you pathological idiot. Why do I need to embellish it? As the saying goes, it is what it is?