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What happend 5200 yrs ago and may be happening now.

 
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Thank you for sharing. This is the kind of stuff I come on GLP for.
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So, finally we know what kind of doom to expect:


ICE DOOM !!!


The movie "The Day After Tomorrow" was predictive programming.
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You should read "Unstoppable Global Warming (every 5200 years). It's kind of dated at this point, but several years ago, this was the cutting edge of global warming debunking. It certainly confirms what most people already know. This has nothing to do with man. It's all about the sun. The book also shows some subtle, and not so subtle ways the global warming fanatics are manipulating data to show what they want you to believe.
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You should read "Unstoppable Global Warming (every 5200 years). It's kind of dated at this point, but several years ago, this was the cutting edge of global warming debunking. It certainly confirms what most people already know. This has nothing to do with man. It's all about the sun. The book also shows some subtle, and not so subtle ways the global warming fanatics are manipulating data to show what they want you to believe.
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Too bad what happened 5,200 years ago was Global Cooling, and not Global Warming...
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Nobody knows since according to the same scientists writing had not been invented yet. The only record from that time is found in the oldest writing on the planet, the Bible.
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the mayan calendar began with osiris death and ends at his resurrection.
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I thought the solar system just flew into a high energy charged cloud which caused the earth to warm up not cool down (mini ice age)?

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If the earth warms the ice melts becoming rain for a long time blocking the sun from getting to us.
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Wash rinse repeat.
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Perhaps some sort of a solar wind will strip our atmosphere away and we will flash freeze.
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Are we actually in the photon belt or will that occur on the 21st? How deep do we have to go in for trouble
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The Mayan calendar started on August 11, 3114 BCE


3114 + 2012 = 5126 years...


Maybe the calendar started after 70 years of a "mini ice age"?

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Mayan calendar is accurate to 4 decimal places. This guy states "perhaps 5200 years" which means his date is an approximation. the earth changes are very close to the Mayan calendar cycle and could coincide with 12.21.12.
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Care for some gopher?
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I was with the article until it started saying that humans might be responsible or partially responsible. Climate change is the result of the sun. Period.
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You are as dogmatic as the crudest of them. A real scientist never says "period". Get a life.

from link..

Evidence shows that around 5,200 years ago, solar output first dropped precipitously and then surged over a short period. It is this huge solar energy oscillation that Thompson believes may have triggered the climate change he sees in all those records.

“The climate system is remarkably sensitive to natural variability,” he said. “It’s likely that it is equally sensitive to effects brought on by human activity, changes like increased greenhouse gases, altered land-use policies and fossil-fuel dependence.

“Any prudent person would agree that we don’t yet understand the complexities with the climate system and, since we don’t, we should be extremely cautious in how much we ‘tweak’ the system,” he said.

“The evidence is clear that a major climate change is underway.”
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I was with the article until it started saying that humans might be responsible or partially responsible. Climate change is the result of the sun. Period.
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So, since you didn't read the entire article, you missed this part:


"Thompson believes that the 5,200-year old event may have been caused by a dramatic fluctuation in solar energy reaching the earth. Scientists know that a historic global cooling called the Little Ice Age, from 1450 to 1850 A.D., coincided with two periods of decreased solar activity.

Evidence shows that around 5,200 years ago, solar output first dropped precipitously and then surged over a short period. It is this huge solar energy oscillation that Thompson believes may have triggered the climate change he sees in all those records."



There was no Industrial Revolution or man-made pollution 5,200 years ago...
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He seemed to say the mayan side of earth will have a 3 day long day while the jeruselum side will have a 3 day long night.

1 third the earths grass trees get burned 1 third water turns poison (wormwood) 1 third earths ships destroyed as per revelations?

That would be the n and s american side that would be getting the radiation from the extra bright sun i guess.

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Wow Omniscient1 thanks for this. I'm off to watch the vids.
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holy shit bump and pin and 5 stars!
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Link is dead.
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 Quoting: Omniscient1


Link is dead.
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Found another.
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]
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Link is dead.
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Link was working earlier today.

They took the link down AFTER this thread was posted...

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Well...

PSY warned you that the ICE AGE starts on December 18, as you can see HERE:

[link to i.imgur.com]


Don't say you weren't warned!
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Tomorrow it will be the 8th anniversary of the presentation of this research in the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union, on December 15, 2004.

8 years of silence from the part of the Mainstream Media...



Read this:

"He points to perfectly preserved plants he discovered that recently emerged from the Quelccaya ice cap in the Peruvian Andes as that glacier retreats. This monstrous glacier, some 551 feet (168 meters) deep, has shown an exponentially increasing rate of retreat since his first observations in 1963.

The plants were carbon-dated to determine their age and tests indicated they had been buried by the ice for perhaps 5,200 years. That suggests that somehow, the climate had shifted suddenly and severely to capture the plants and preserve them until now.

In 1991, hikers found the preserved body of a man trapped in an Alpine glacier and freed as it retreated. Later tests showed that the human - dubbed Oetzi - became trapped and died around 5,200 years ago."


oh shit
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those plants under that glacier are MEADOW plants, and they now sit at over 16000 feet in altitude

it is a major smoking gun. if you think about this, there is only ONE way they got there, and it is scary as fuck. they were thrust up, suddenly, from a very moderate, warm, low area, to a very harsh, cold HIGH area.

basically, a mountain formed instantaneously, JUST 5200 years ago?

come on.
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I browsed some links in his wikipedia page, and one takes to several of his peer revewed publications with pdfs to download. Thompson is clearly a man made global warming advocate. Nevertheless, one should look to the data and forgive his taken a stance on the origins of the weather. In the abstract of this article from 2010 he summarizes his worries:

The Glaciers serve as early indicators of climate change. Over the last 35 years, our research team has
recovered ice-core records of climatic and environmental variations from the polar regions and
from low-latitude, high-elevation ice fields from 16 countries. The ongoing widespread melting of
high-elevation glaciers and ice caps, particularly in low to middle latitudes, provides some of the
strongest evidence to date that a large-scale, pervasive, and, in some cases, rapid change in
Earth's climate system is underway. This paper highlights observations of 20th and 21st century
glacier shrinkage in the Andes, the Himalayas, and on Mount Kilimanjaro. Ice cores retrieved
from shrinking glaciers around the world confirm their continuous existence for periods ranging
from hundreds of years to multiple millennia, suggesting that climatological conditions that
dominate those regions today are different from those under which these ice fields large,
accumulated and have been sustained. The current warming is therefore unusual when viewed
from the millennial perspective provided by multiple lines of proxy evidence and the 160-year
the record of direct temperature measurements. Despite all this evidence, plus the well-documented
continual increase in atmospheric greenhouse gas concentrations, societies have taken little
action to address this global-scale problem. Hence, the rate of global carbon dioxide emissions
continues to accelerate. As a result of our inaction, we have three options: mitigation,
adaptation, and suffering.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe




Man, you don't get it...

It really DOESN'T MATTER if Lonnie Thompson believes in man-made Global Warming today...


What REALLY matters is that he concluded that 5,200 years ago (exactly at the time when the Mayan calendar starts) there was SUDDEN cooling of the world climate, caused by a drop in the activity of the Sun.

According to him, this chance was so SUDDEN, that some plants were perfectly preserved in the ice!!!


And this is not "any" scientist. It's a member of the National Academy of Science of the United States, and a recipient of the National Medal of Science!


Can you see the implications of this?

Due to a drop in the activity of the Sun, there was a SUDDEN global colling that trapped perfectly preserved plants!

And this happened exactly at the time when the Mayan calendar starts!!!


abomb
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... and BARRY SOTERO is a Nobel Peace Prize winner.

... and that lying bastard Hansen is Director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies.

Only a SHEEP puts that much credence into "credentials" because many times they are BOGUS anyway!!

AND, BTW, the 5200-year-ago sudden drop was NOT the first time. So why doesn't the "esteemed scientist" whom you quote KNOW THAT!? Furthermore, why don't YOU know that!?!!!
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This is the pole shift. This is the world-wide earthquakes that Jesus talks about, that other prophets like Isaiah mention. The catastrophes are instantaneous BUT they come with a warning. Those who have eyes to see will heed the warning. Do not expect the mass media to deliver the warning. Isolated salt lakes thousands of feet up near mountain-tops -- how else can they get there except by pole shift? Cities thousands of feet underwater. How can they get there except by pole shift? Whole continents will disappear within hours. Of course, the mainstream media will not tell us anything. Look at the rock carvings IN CAVES HIGH UP IN MOUNTAINS. That's where the survivors took refuge, in caves.

The PTB think the underground bunkers will save them, but they are wrong. God will find them.
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This is the pole shift. This is the world-wide earthquakes that Jesus talks about, that other prophets like Isaiah mention. The catastrophes are instantaneous BUT they come with a warning. Those who have eyes to see will heed the warning. Do not expect the mass media to deliver the warning. Isolated salt lakes thousands of feet up near mountain-tops -- how else can they get there except by pole shift? Cities thousands of feet underwater. How can they get there except by pole shift? Whole continents will disappear within hours. Of course, the mainstream media will not tell us anything. Look at the rock carvings IN CAVES HIGH UP IN MOUNTAINS. That's where the survivors took refuge, in caves.

The PTB think the underground bunkers will save them, but they are wrong. God will find them.
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They found noahs ark up on a high mountain
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I hope this theory gets more attention

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