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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27590487 United States 12/14/2012 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone touched on this on another blog. The problem has little to do with gun control, it's the fact that we have deinstitutionalized the mentally ill. Years ago, the mentally ill with violent or erratic tendencies were locked up. In today's PC world, we treat them with a court ordered short term stay at a state mental hospital and then send them home with Abilify or Clozaril and expect them to be compliant with their meds and blend in-with minimal outpatient involvement. There's no doubt that this kid was a ticking time bomb, and apparently everyone in the neighborhood knew it. And for those of you who think this is an insensitive view, get a job at a state psych hospital. I worked for a state hospital in KY as an RN a couple years back. I had a Schizophrenic guy that was cool with me and polite but I had found out he was having some major delusions about me and was plotting some sort of weird attack. This was brought to staff's attention by other patients. Bottom line is: you cannot trust paranoid schizophrenics for a minute. Turn your back on them and see what happens. I have no doubt that this kid was seriously ill and should have been committed a LONG time ago. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8658014 Amen, also worked at psych hospital, this is the problem |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23367695 Canada 12/14/2012 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, the brother's tweets made him look like a douche bag. The parents really fucked up with these kids. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2215492 its even more whacked that the news is now reporting that the guns were registered in Mom's name .. if this is the case she obviously didn't lock them up properly. with a son who has psychological problems. doesn't add up. 22 deaths in usa and 22 injuries in china << interesting odds no? |
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Treyfish User ID: 14756837 United States 12/14/2012 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, the brother's tweets made him look like a douche bag. The parents really fucked up with these kids. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2215492 its even more whacked that the news is now reporting that the guns were registered in Mom's name .. if this is the case she obviously didn't lock them up properly. with a son who has psychological problems. doesn't add up. 22 deaths in usa and 22 injuries in china << interesting odds no? |
anonymousgirl User ID: 22104187 United States 12/14/2012 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHY DOESN'T ADAM LANZA EXIST?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18382760 All searches done on Ryan, Nancy and Peter show they're all related to each other but Adam Lanza, age 20 can't be found ANYWHERE! I also find it odd that ryan was tweeting his innocence and that he was at work. but no mention of just losing his parents. or his brother. just weird. WHY DOESN'T ADAM LANZA EXIST?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18382760 All searches done on Ryan, Nancy and Peter show they're all related to each other but Adam Lanza, age 20 can't be found ANYWHERE! I also find it odd that ryan was tweeting his innocence and that he was at work. but no mention of just losing his parents. or his brother. just weird. I wouldn't say its weird. Ryan was at work and leaves work to find all that on his FB. He posted there his innocence. The twitter wasn't his brothers but another Ryan Lanza. Probably had NO idea at the time that his family was involved until he arrived home. Don't know the kid nor am I standing up for him and how he responded, but I know I probably would freak out too if I was being called a murderer and being told to rot in hell and die. I just don't think we can jump to conclusions until we know all sides. What his brother did was HORRIBLE and UNSPEAKABLE. Those poor children in that school, their teachers, and their families are what we really need to keep on our hearts. We should also remember that the victims of the man who did this horrible act aren't their son or brother. They are hurting too and will probably receive so much ridicule and loss because they were simply related to a murderer. Just keep it all in perspective guys. My prayers go to all the families. I work with kids and can't imagine losing one of them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6427313 United States 12/14/2012 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did the woman on FOX just say what a tragedy this was 'especially when you look and see the upper middle class neighborhood'?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199093 yup, said that. buy why doesnt this ever happen in a poor school system... Because nobody would care if it was 20 black kids in a poverty stricken city. |
TheCartel User ID: 29735768 United States 12/14/2012 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did the woman on FOX just say what a tragedy this was 'especially when you look and see the upper middle class neighborhood'?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199093 yup, said that. buy why doesnt this ever happen in a poor school system... Because nobody would care if it was 20 black kids in a poverty stricken city. Oh go away |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 906056 United States 12/14/2012 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pic of Adam lanza [link to abcnews.go.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24537507 what is he like 13 there? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8658014 United States 12/14/2012 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone touched on this on another blog. The problem has little to do with gun control, it's the fact that we have deinstitutionalized the mentally ill. Years ago, the mentally ill with violent or erratic tendencies were locked up. In today's PC world, we treat them with a court ordered short term stay at a state mental hospital and then send them home with Abilify or Clozaril and expect them to be compliant with their meds and blend in-with minimal outpatient involvement. There's no doubt that this kid was a ticking time bomb, and apparently everyone in the neighborhood knew it. And for those of you who think this is an insensitive view, get a job at a state psych hospital. I worked for a state hospital in KY as an RN a couple years back. I had a Schizophrenic guy that was cool with me and polite but I had found out he was having some major delusions about me and was plotting some sort of weird attack. This was brought to staff's attention by other patients. Bottom line is: you cannot trust paranoid schizophrenics for a minute. Turn your back on them and see what happens. I have no doubt that this kid was seriously ill and should have been committed a LONG time ago. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8658014 Saw someone on tv talking about this today. People/doctors are so afraid to demand treatment for those who don't want to be treated or think they do not need it. Nowadays, the loonies have more rights than the victims. We give them jobs making little umbrellas for our cocktails so they are "useful" members of our society when they belong in a psych ward. But nobody has the guts to commit them. We have passed the point of tolerance and gone to our own form of insanity. If the brother that is detained is found to have been complicit, there should be a public hanging. Fuck the justice system. Hell, the MD's know how nuts some of these people are. True story. We would have case review meetings on Tuesday mornings. As part of the meeting, we would select the patients most likely to get discharged and bring them in for the meeting. Talk about hearing some off the wall sh*t. One guy came in and told the MD and social worker that he had a job lined up at an Iraqi tank factory in Iowa. Another guy came in with a hospital gown that he worn for over a month straight,had food and sh*t stains all over it. And they have the stupidity to ask this kid if he had a "job" lined up. LOL. If you guys think state mental hospitals are non violent, do a damn google search. They are some of the most violent places to work. Hearing Code 71 ( escalating patient) was an hourly thing. We are reaping what we sown years ago by allowing the violent mentally ill out on the streets. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27590487 United States 12/14/2012 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What does his father know? Just like the Aurora shooting, look at where the father is connected [link to www.stamfordadvocate.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28150760 United States 12/14/2012 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is all but done. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29905680 Fox news-we need gun control. Cnn news-we need gun control. NBC news- a show scheduled for Sunday to discuss stopping the mass murders-gun control. Soon only criminals will have guns,if you have a gun,you are a criminal. NYC nanny mayor calls for gun control... "Bloomberg: Obama Must Take 'Immediate Action' Against Guns" Interesting they immediately want more gun control. What about help for those with mental illness? Nope they immediately use tragedy for control. Praying for the grieving families. This is horror beyond immigration. Bloomberg is a psychotic, mentally ill nutcase. Eric Holder is a felonious murderer. Obama is a hardline communist,who will use his last term to turn this country into the OPENLY tyrannical communist nation that he had planned all along. It is all but done. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29905680 Fox news-we need gun control. Cnn news-we need gun control. NBC news- a show scheduled for Sunday to discuss stopping the mass murders-gun control. Soon only criminals will have guns,if you have a gun,you are a criminal. NYC nanny mayor calls for gun control... "Bloomberg: Obama Must Take 'Immediate Action' Against Guns" Interesting they immediately want more gun control. What about help for those with mental illness? Nope they immediately use tragedy for control. Praying for the grieving families. This is horror beyond immigration. Bloomberg is a psychotic, mentally ill nutcase. Eric Holder is a felonious murderer. Obama is a hardline communist,who will use his last term to turn this country into the OPENLY tyrannical communist nation that he had planned all along. No what is happening is what I've always known! Bill Whittle is an Obama-hater and ALL Obama-haters are racist bigots to the core! No Doubt about it: Right-wing America hates having a Black Man as President! Is Barack Obama NOT a nice guy? I DON'T KNOW! Is Barack Obama a narcissist? Does Barack Obama hate America? HELL NO! Does Barack Obama NOT incompentent? Is Barack Obama a muslim? No Obama is not muslim, he is most likley atheist, but fox news need something scarier so they pegged him as muslim. Is Barack Obama against the Constitution? Is Barack Obama destroying America? Is Barack Obama a Marxist? No Obama is not a marxist Is Barack Obama an Illegal Alien? Obama is not illegal. no more than bush was illegal back in 2001, how easily we forget. Is Barack Obama a homosexual? No, Obama is married to a woman. Plus, he is anti-gay marriage. Is Barack Obama "Pure evil"? Obama is not evil, hitler was evil, charles manson evil, dahmer was evil. Is Barack Obama an Anti-American? HELL NO! Is Barack Obama a Traitor to America? HELL NO! No more than bush is a traitor because of events on 911. If Obama is trying to take away your guns then why hasn't he done anything and how come whenever one of these "falseflags" happens the Administration says it's not the right time for gun control? And the American people hate racist bigots like yourself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14959115 Australia 12/14/2012 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Listen at about the :16 mark... Connecticut Newtown Elementary School Shooting Police Audio X11ATOM11X·19 videos Published on Dec 14, 2012 Dressed in black fatigues and a military vest, a heavily armed man walked into a Connecticut elementary school Friday and opened fire, shattering the quiet of this southern New England town and leaving the nation reeling at the number of young lives lost. Within minutes, 26 people were dead at Sandy Hook Elementary School -- 20 of them children. Among the six adults killed were Dawn Hochsprung, the school's beloved principal, and school psychologist Mary Sherlach. The shooter, identified by three law enforcement officials as 20-year-old Adam Lanza, also was killed, apparently by his own hand. [link to www.cnn.com] Visit Our Website: [link to getthetruthout.icyboards.net] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26885962 United States 12/14/2012 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A revolver-pull the trigger and shoot one bullet. A semi automatic-pull the trigger and shoot one bullet. and, if you wanna go hunting, yer gonna have to be a really good shot, because you'll be using a revolver. I am. On any weapon platform. And I will use my skills if they try to remove guns from this house Cool story bro, your mom called and the PB & J without the crusts is ready for you downstairs. |
anonymous coward User ID: 24967511 United States 12/14/2012 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi. I am in Central CT. And has been on all news and radio all day. I have been reading this thread throughout the day it is possible I missed a few pages. Here is what I am thoroughly confused about. NBC affiliates on Kiss 95.7 and all the other stations announced his name and said he had killed his father in Hoboken and drove to CT . Now dad is in Stamford. and was told about it by reporters. So who is dead in NJ ???? they reported the body found in the house. The repeated themselves 3 times and announced Ryan Lanza (who is now Adam).And dad was dead.first. So who is dead in NJ !????? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22000823 United States 12/14/2012 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in interest of what has happened today, time has come to overhaul our educational process in ths country. we r no longer ranked at the top in education. our kids risk their lives going to school, that risk being other students, drivers while they r on their way to school,bombs,spreading of diseases, all the way to e-coli in their food. our education system has been throw $$ at it n the kids will learn. how well has that worked????? lmfao. someone got rich on our $$. but NOT OUR KID'S MINDS. hence,we need to change the system completely.better yet OVERTHROW it. we have the technology. we go to state approved internet online schooling. we give PARENTS the choice of curriculem. U pick what courses your child will take from a list. this way the course study fits each individual childs needs,wants,and goals. if your child excells at art, u may have more n more in-depth art classes. u will still have other courses as well,such as english,math,history,etc. we throw out "teach to the test" curriculems. i realize ppl will argue against this idea. they will say children need to build social skills,interaction,etc. AND THE FACT THAT SCHOOLS HAVE BECOME OVER RATED BABYSITTERS. there r 12mths to a yr. each mth a different grade level can meet at 1 school building to review n test. that gives the childrfen their interaction as well as the government their way to monitor the advancements. NOW THE GOOD STUFF: this idea will save MONEY. we wont have to pay UNIONIZED TEACHERS . we wont have to heat n power as many schools. we wont need all the buse. we wont have as many pension plans,etc. as much as it takes to pay the teachers now,we could give each child a laptop computer. with this system the school yr is at the PARENTS DISCRETION. as long as they finish the required course study during the yr. hence U have flexible vacations. this helps with the burden of doctor appointments,family emmergencies,etc. AGAIN THE POWER IS BACK IN THE HANDS OF PARENTS NOT TEACHERS WHO JUST WANT UNION PAY WHILE OUR CHILDREN GET LEFT BEHIND BY CHINA OR JAPAN,ETC. now after 10th grade u will b given a diploma. that will say u completed the state requirements. equal to a high school diploma. then u will go to state funded community college for 2 yrs. hell the way student loans r set up,the government, via taxpayers $$,already pays for this anyhow. with all the extra teachers,we can drop the professors pay grades by 25% at least. this way "NO CHILD IS LEFT BEHIND". answeres the governments cry. this system solves many of today's problems. with the course study more individually set up, most children's will to learn will go up. with graduating at 10th grade levels,we fast-track college. we give every child 2yrs of college. hence ,we should b graduating higher quality students,and at an earlier age. the pay back is both economically now. AND ppl start working at an earlier age, thereby paying tax money back to good-ole uncle sam sooner and longer. if u would rather send your child to a private school, go ahead n do so,BUT U PAY FOR IT. the taxpayer will give u no funds.same thing if u want a high dollar college,u pay not all us taxpayers.the idea we have now that the teachers WONT do a good enuf job so lets make other schools n pay 2 schools more money,has to stop. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23410679 United States 12/14/2012 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29905680 A revolver-pull the trigger and shoot one bullet. A semi automatic-pull the trigger and shoot one bullet. and, if you wanna go hunting, yer gonna have to be a really good shot, because you'll be using a revolver. I am. On any weapon platform. And I will use my skills if they try to remove guns from this house Cool story bro, your mom called and the PB & J without the crusts is ready for you downstairs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6427313 United States 12/14/2012 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yup, said that. buy why doesnt this ever happen in a poor school system... Because nobody would care if it was 20 black kids in a poverty stricken city. Oh go away I wasn't trying to be mean. But think about it, what makes for a better story, 20 white kindergarten kids mowed down in a nice peaceful area or 20 black kids named deshaun, jakory, latasha, being mowed down in a poor city? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18382760 United States 12/14/2012 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A former school board official in Newtown called into question earlier reports that Nancy Lanza had been connected to Sandy Hook Elementary School, possibly as part of the teaching staff. “No one has heard of her,” said Lillian Bittman, who served on the local school board until 2011. “Teachers don’t know her.” [link to blogs.wsj.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28036927 United States 12/14/2012 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In 1982, the Kennesaw City Council unanimously passed a law requiring heads of households to own at least one firearm with ammunition. Quoting: TheCartel The ordinance states the gun law is needed to "protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants." Then-councilman J.O. Stephenson said after the ordinance was passed, everyone "went crazy." "People all over the country said there would be shootings in the street and violence in homes," he said. "Of course, that wasn't the case." In fact, according to Stephenson, it caused the crime rate in the city to plunge. Kennesaw Historical Society president Robert Jones said following the law's passage, the crime rate dropped 89 percent in the city, compared to the modest 10 percent drop statewide. "It did drop after it was passed," he said. "After it initially dropped, it has stayed at the same low level for the past 16 years." "I didn't think it could be written in a constitutional fashion," he said. "Obviously, it was constitutional, because the American Civil Liberties Union challenged it in court and we won." Jones said the ACLU challenged the law in a federal court just after it was passed. In response, the city added a clause adding conscientious objectors to the list of those exem [link to rense.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4985378 United States 12/14/2012 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Details and updates including the pertinent conflicting reports (marked as such) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4985378 [link to politicolonel.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28763511 Mexico 12/14/2012 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did the woman on FOX just say what a tragedy this was 'especially when you look and see the upper middle class neighborhood'?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199093 yup, said that. buy why doesnt this ever happen in a poor school system... Because nobody would care if it was 20 black kids in a poverty stricken city. How twisted would they go to manage the traffic?, if that were the case. For sure it would be different... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27231023 United States 12/14/2012 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There needs to be an armed guard in every school at a minimum. The liberal idea of banning guns is worthless. This kind of thing is never going to stop as it has been happening forever all over the world. Lets focus on protecting people and start by having a security force at schools. |
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LaniJane User ID: 29891506 United States 12/14/2012 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yup, said that. buy why doesnt this ever happen in a poor school system... Because nobody would care if it was 20 black kids in a poverty stricken city. How twisted would they go to manage the traffic?, if that were the case. For sure it would be different... Flag says Mexico, posts like Netherlands, lol. "There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls." ~ George Carlin |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21993077 United States 12/14/2012 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is all but done. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29905680 Fox news-we need gun control. Cnn news-we need gun control. NBC news- a show scheduled for Sunday to discuss stopping the mass murders-gun control. Soon only criminals will have guns,if you have a gun,you are a criminal. NYC nanny mayor calls for gun control... "Bloomberg: Obama Must Take 'Immediate Action' Against Guns" Interesting they immediately want more gun control. What about help for those with mental illness? Nope they immediately use tragedy for control. Praying for the grieving families. This is horror beyond immigration. Bloomberg is a psychotic, mentally ill nutcase. Eric Holder is a felonious murderer. Obama is a hardline communist,who will use his last term to turn this country into the OPENLY tyrannical communist nation that he had planned all along. It is all but done. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29905680 Fox news-we need gun control. Cnn news-we need gun control. NBC news- a show scheduled for Sunday to discuss stopping the mass murders-gun control. Soon only criminals will have guns,if you have a gun,you are a criminal. NYC nanny mayor calls for gun control... "Bloomberg: Obama Must Take 'Immediate Action' Against Guns" Interesting they immediately want more gun control. What about help for those with mental illness? Nope they immediately use tragedy for control. Praying for the grieving families. This is horror beyond immigration. Bloomberg is a psychotic, mentally ill nutcase. Eric Holder is a felonious murderer. Obama is a hardline communist,who will use his last term to turn this country into the OPENLY tyrannical communist nation that he had planned all along. No what is happening is what I've always known! Bill Whittle is an Obama-hater and ALL Obama-haters are racist bigots to the core! No Doubt about it: Right-wing America hates having a Black Man as President! Is Barack Obama NOT a nice guy? I DON'T KNOW! Is Barack Obama a narcissist? Does Barack Obama hate America? HELL NO! Does Barack Obama NOT incompentent? Is Barack Obama a muslim? No Obama is not muslim, he is most likley atheist, but fox news need something scarier so they pegged him as muslim. Is Barack Obama against the Constitution? Is Barack Obama destroying America? Is Barack Obama a Marxist? No Obama is not a marxist Is Barack Obama an Illegal Alien? Obama is not illegal. no more than bush was illegal back in 2001, how easily we forget. Is Barack Obama a homosexual? No, Obama is married to a woman. Plus, he is anti-gay marriage. Is Barack Obama "Pure evil"? Obama is not evil, hitler was evil, charles manson evil, dahmer was evil. Is Barack Obama an Anti-American? HELL NO! Is Barack Obama a Traitor to America? HELL NO! No more than bush is a traitor because of events on 911. If Obama is trying to take away your guns then why hasn't he done anything and how come whenever one of these "falseflags" happens the Administration says it's not the right time for gun control? And the American people hate racist bigots like yourself. do a lil fact checking before you run your lips about shit you know nothing about |
TheCartel User ID: 29735768 United States 12/14/2012 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1259453 yup, said that. buy why doesnt this ever happen in a poor school system... Because nobody would care if it was 20 black kids in a poverty stricken city. Oh go away I wasn't trying to be mean. But think about it, what makes for a better story, 20 white kindergarten kids mowed down in a nice peaceful area or 20 black kids named deshaun, jakory, latasha, being mowed down in a poor city? They are the only innocent people in this world.black or white they are All God s children |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28763511 Mexico 12/14/2012 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yup, said that. buy why doesnt this ever happen in a poor school system... Because nobody would care if it was 20 black kids in a poverty stricken city. Oh go away There are 5 other threads for you to push your gun lobby politicking over the corpses of children. You go away.. |
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