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For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..

 
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i imagine all weapons are abolished on planet earth...


soak in that vision...



feels so good:)
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Gun’s aren’t the problem. Crazy assed murders are the problem.
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Exactly, I don't know why they don't ban all violent R rated movies that depict gun violence first as the depiction of the violence is what must first instigate the psychopath's mentality.

On that line they might as well ban video games that are violent, and for that matter ban all history books that record violence for any purpose whatsoever, oh except communist inspired violence who's end always justifies the means.
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
Stop distracting from the real issue. Americans cannot be trusted with guns. Now definitively proven. Gun owners are a different breed. I've met them. They have an evil lust in their eyes when discussing guns.
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
Imagine how many of those 22 injured kids would have been dead if it had been a gun.
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Exactly.
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Says the idiot.
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In your world knives are more deadly that handguns?
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Uhhh its possible to take a piece of scrap metal, make a machete out of it, and sharpening it to limb severing capablities very easily. Like, "stick your arm out to block and get your forearm cut off" sharp.
We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves?
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
The world has a lot of evil in it. Prepare yourself the best that you can.
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
We all haven't seen shit yet. Wait till the world economy completely implodes. No jobs, No money, No food. You'll see human nature at its worst. Then you'll be wishing you had something more to defend youself with other than a stick off a tree.
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
Imagine how many of those 22 injured kids would have been dead if it had been a gun.
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Exactly.
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So lets put this into perspective. If they ban them, and they go on the black market. Wouldnt that mean criminals who would buy them on the black market would have them and people who buy guns to hunt and protect themselves would be without arms?

You can use a knife to cut fruit, or stab people. You can use a hammer to hammer a nail in the wall or kill people. The point is people who want to cause harm to others, whether it be through building bombs or using other means will find a way.

Why do people who would never do such a thing lose the right to bear arms because of someone elses crime or behavior?

The issue is the different mentalities of different people. Because most of us here would never have that thought enter our mind to do what these fucking wastes of flesh did to these children this morning.
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We all haven't seen shit yet. Wait till the world economy completely implodes. No jobs, No money, No food. You'll see human nature at its worst. Then you'll be wishing you had something more to defend youself with other than a stick off a tree.
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^^^^^^
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All those children would not have been murdered if security had guns!
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Thats exactly right!!! As much as I hate to say it...these schools are soft kill targets...These schools NEED ARMED SECURITY!! Banning weapons is NOT the answer...when a psychpath is determined to do something they WILL use any weapon they can find. These people need to be put down as fast as possible. Its EXACTLY as the former FBI Lt. Just said on fox news...MANY TOWNS HAVE A POLICE OFFICER THATS ASSIGNED TO THE SCHOOLS BUT THEY CANT STAY ALL DAY BECAUSE MANY TOWNS ONLY HAVE 8-15 OFFICERS TOTAL DUE TO BUDGET CUTS!!!!
When... WHEN will our officials figure out that NO GUN ZONES ARE ALWAYS the targets of these types of crimes!!! ITS SAD WHEN THE CRIMINAL ELEMENTS ARE SMARTER THAN OUR OFFICIALS!! I am just sickened at the events that are taking place in schools today.
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ive never heard of a gun getting up and going on a killing spree. if he didn't have a gun he would probably use something biological to kill the people and more would die. why do you guys always assume that if they dont have a gun that they will use a fork?
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
But this never happens in Sweden, who have tought gun laws.
Please!! I have full respect for the right to carry a gun.
But come on!! Chicago is a war zone!! And this happens often!!
It's time to do something

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Chicagohas some of the tightest gun control. Look at other states with less control. Not as much violence there. No one in Chicago can defend themselves.
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
Because of the laws that prohibit teachers and faculty from possessing a firearm in schools this incident was not able to be stopped or prevented. There needs to be open carry law implemented in the US and then and only the will people have the right to defend themselves from from a tragedy like this. The government will never take guns from the people who want to hurt others, and now is the time to demand that our 2nd ammendment right is honored so that the rest of us good and law abiding citizens have the right to protect ourselves. Banning guns will surely make this type of tragedy more commom than ever before. We have to stand up and demand the right to protect ourselves. The government and police will not and cannot protect us as we have just witnessed here. Living in a law abiding community where the general public are nice and good people and where we have a police department and where crime is almost non existent, these elements all offer a false sense of security. Let us all pray for the families of the deceased and may God see them all through this.
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
i imagine all weapons are abolished on planet earth...


soak in that vision...



feels so good:)
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Yes, that way, women who were once able to protect themselves against a stronger male aggressor now have to rely on hand-to-hand combat techniques that will do NOTHING against an enraged psychotic individual.
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
I've often said this, unless you're going to ban knives, kitch knives, axes, saws, swords, fire, certain chemicals, fireworks, teaching people martial arts, or teaching people how to fight.

We should all just be wrapped in bubble wrap in round rooms.

Hell you can even lock people in prison with access to nothing, and they still come up with weapons, drugs, etc.

Banning guns will ensure one thing, and that is that no one will be able to fight back and the only people left with the guns and total power will be Government, who now look like military.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29706176


why have a ban on anything then? Why stop at guns? Why not cars with turret mounted machine guns? Or why not allow open carry grenade launchers? Or how about Ninja swords?

Your argument and pro gun arguments are so stupid. You take a position as if that is the correct position and then work your logic from there.

If you're silly constitution which is NOW, just a goddamned piece of paper, was written earlier you would make the same argument about bows and arrows and open carrying your bow. If it was done later, you would scream that it was your right to have napalm and grenades for your own safety.

The problem with all you gun tards is that you take a position that happened by chance and argue as if it is the be all and end all, and then you IGNORE the facts of the world that prove time and again, that carrying does not make a safer country.

Keep your straw men at home, and use them for target practice.
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I've often said this, unless you're going to ban knives, kitch knives, axes, saws, swords, fire, certain chemicals, fireworks, teaching people martial arts, or teaching people how to fight.

We should all just be wrapped in bubble wrap in round rooms.

Hell you can even lock people in prison with access to nothing, and they still come up with weapons, drugs, etc.

Banning guns will ensure one thing, and that is that no one will be able to fight back and the only people left with the guns and total power will be Government, who now look like military.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29706176


why have a ban on anything then? Why stop at guns? Why not cars with turret mounted machine guns? Or why not allow open carry grenade launchers? Or how about Ninja swords?

Your argument and pro gun arguments are so stupid. You take a position as if that is the correct position and then work your logic from there.

If you're silly constitution which is NOW, just a goddamned piece of paper, was written earlier you would make the same argument about bows and arrows and open carrying your bow. If it was done later, you would scream that it was your right to have napalm and grenades for your own safety.

The problem with all you gun tards is that you take a position that happened by chance and argue as if it is the be all and end all, and then you IGNORE the facts of the world that prove time and again, that carrying does not make a safer country.

Keep your straw men at home, and use them for target practice.
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Drugs are illegal, is it a drug free america? Far from, people will find a way to get guns on the black market just as they do drugs. Your argument is just as delusional. It will be be a situation where there will be no way to defend yourself against the very people who will now still have the fucking guns, the same people who are committing these heinous crimes which make gun control a reality in people like you and others minds.
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So how many people have died from drug overdoses from the ban on heroine, meth, and cocaine? Those are illegal drugs and they kill people every day. Only criminals use them. I don't understand the ignorance of people saying we should do the same thing with guns and make them illegal.
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Imagine how many of those 22 injured kids would have been dead if it had been a gun.
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
I've often said this, unless you're going to ban knives, kitch knives, axes, saws, swords, fire, certain chemicals, fireworks, teaching people martial arts, or teaching people how to fight.

We should all just be wrapped in bubble wrap in round rooms.

Hell you can even lock people in prison with access to nothing, and they still come up with weapons, drugs, etc.

Banning guns will ensure one thing, and that is that no one will be able to fight back and the only people left with the guns and total power will be Government, who now look like military.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29706176


why have a ban on anything then? Why stop at guns? Why not cars with turret mounted machine guns? Or why not allow open carry grenade launchers? Or how about Ninja swords?

Your argument and pro gun arguments are so stupid. You take a position as if that is the correct position and then work your logic from there.

If you're silly constitution which is NOW, just a goddamned piece of paper, was written earlier you would make the same argument about bows and arrows and open carrying your bow. If it was done later, you would scream that it was your right to have napalm and grenades for your own safety.

The problem with all you gun tards is that you take a position that happened by chance and argue as if it is the be all and end all, and then you IGNORE the facts of the world that prove time and again, that carrying does not make a safer country.

Keep your straw men at home, and use them for target practice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21427624


You are a moron. First of all you do not understand natural rights nor the principle underlying the second amendment. That principle is A well regulated militia, necessary for the security of a free state. This means that it is the right of the people to be able to organize themselves into groups for the purposes of defending their communities and persons against outside threats.

Gun ownership is a derivative of this principle, the 2nd amendment is not and has never been about the right to own guns it is about the people to be able to defend themselves using whatever means necessary, if that means tanks, then so be it in today's world that would extend to some pretty powerful weaponry.
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
So how many people have died from drug overdoses from the ban on heroine, meth, and cocaine? Those are illegal drugs and they kill people every day. Only criminals use them. I don't understand the ignorance of people saying we should do the same thing with guns and make them illegal.
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There are some differences, though I'm also against this gun-ban, the intent behind the war on drugs, was never to get them out of america. Also, I believe, those overdoses and stuff are in some kind a consequence of the illegality.

Last Edited by Itchy Who? on 12/14/2012 02:59 PM
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
Americans have that "wild west and cowboy" mentality
it's deeply rooted, so no way they will give up from the guns

on a contrary they will continue to buy and collect more and more

all this reminds to cell phones revolution, when parents have been asked why they buy such phone to the 7 year old kid who just went to the school, they usually answered - for his safety, so I always know where he is. wall suicide
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Assault weapons ban and high capacity (over 10 rounds) coming very soon. Count on it.

No grandfathering = Civil War 2

Count on that too
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Yeah, guns are illegal in Mexico...look how well that's worked out for the Drug Cartels and the unarmed Mexican populace.


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I am happy with my belief this country was founded on the principles my grandparents approved. Those beliefs include the right to load a gun and shoot. If people don't want to live with these beliefs, move somewhere else.
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
I've often said this, unless you're going to ban knives, kitch knives, axes, saws, swords, fire, certain chemicals, fireworks, teaching people martial arts, or teaching people how to fight.

We should all just be wrapped in bubble wrap in round rooms.

Hell you can even lock people in prison with access to nothing, and they still come up with weapons, drugs, etc.

Banning guns will ensure one thing, and that is that no one will be able to fight back and the only people left with the guns and total power will be Government, who now look like military.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29706176


why have a ban on anything then? Why stop at guns? Why not cars with turret mounted machine guns? Or why not allow open carry grenade launchers? Or how about Ninja swords?

Your argument and pro gun arguments are so stupid. You take a position as if that is the correct position and then work your logic from there.

If you're silly constitution which is NOW, just a goddamned piece of paper, was written earlier you would make the same argument about bows and arrows and open carrying your bow. If it was done later, you would scream that it was your right to have napalm and grenades for your own safety.

The problem with all you gun tards is that you take a position that happened by chance and argue as if it is the be all and end all, and then you IGNORE the facts of the world that prove time and again, that carrying does not make a safer country.

Keep your straw men at home, and use them for target practice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21427624


Drugs are illegal, is it a drug free america? Far from, people will find a way to get guns on the black market just as they do drugs. Your argument is just as delusional. It will be be a situation where there will be no way to defend yourself against the very people who will now still have the fucking guns, the same people who are committing these heinous crimes which make gun control a reality in people like you and others minds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26650211


What argument? See? You are all so stuck in your ways, you just like to yell across at each other.

I just pointed out the stupidity of pro gun positions and the pure chance of when your constitution was written vs. the weapons available at the time.

I didn't say I was pro gun control or not, just that your arguments are stupid, based on chance, and you use false 'facts' to bolster your position.

You're so blind to the situation you can't even read something without carrying on your own argument.
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
u confiscate guns and home invasions, especially at night will explode. u gonna take on armed invaders with pepper spray?
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
Its not knives or guns thats the issue, its the people that kill with them for no reason. We still need guns for defense, banning people that murder from society sounds like a better idea.
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
Imagine how many of those 22 injured kids would have been dead if it had been a gun.
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Exactly.
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Imagine if there had been a teacher with a concealed gun. No children or teachers slashed and Chinese psycho taken out permanently.
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Imagine if the teacher was a nut.
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such a typical brit, whining and bitching while barely concealing your glee at what hurts americans. go away.

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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
i imagine all weapons are abolished on planet earth...


soak in that vision...



feels so good:)
 Quoting: Sundara


Yeah right!
Then the only ones with weapons would be the Goverment and their followers. NO THANKS. I feel much more secure when citizens are armed.
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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
But this never happens in Sweden, who have tought gun laws.
Please!! I have full respect for the right to carry a gun.
But come on!! Chicago is a war zone!! And this happens often!!
It's time to do something

bump
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you do realize, my viking friend, that once the muzzies
(that you stupidly let into your country en masse) figure
out the small technical hurdle of producing reliable
cartridges in their basements, you guys (and your women)
will be thoroughly hooped.

on some bittorrent alternative dns darknets, you can
find the schematics and instructions for simple
handguns and rifles. all it takes is a little bit
of machining and parts you can easily find in any
hardware. and i'm not even talking about 3d printer
technology yet.

white people are dumb.

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Re: For all you who want to ban guns because Americans are so violent..
Gun’s aren’t the problem. Crazy assed murders are the problem.
 Quoting: Resister


Exactly, I don't know why they don't ban all violent R rated movies that depict gun violence first as the depiction of the violence is what must first instigate the psychopath's mentality.

On that line they might as well ban video games that are violent, and for that matter ban all history books that record violence for any purpose whatsoever, oh except communist inspired violence who's end always justifies the means.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432


Everyones going to find out about gun violence anyway, dont think psychopaths were good one day and after seeing a violent video game, went out and killed somebody. Its a problem with people like that.

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