Dear Gun Control Idiots...

Your right to bear arms law was written in1791 time to update that law asshat gun control is the answer look at canada you can't go into wallmart get a bag of milk some bread and a gun and ammo windsor Ontario is 1 mile from Detroit windsor has 1 murder this year Detroit 430 anf counting looking foward 2 your reply

So, tell me, genius; just what is your plan for ridding the country of 300 million guns when most have no paper trail to the current possessor?

Looking forward to YOUR armchair-expert reply.

Really? You think you could kill, actually kill, not just injure, 30 people by swerving your car? Añd how often are mass killings carried out by people driving their car. Yes poisoning would be easier. A lot easier.

Seems pretty easy when you look at your statistics. Even little kiddies manage to shoot each other in the face when their parents haven't secured their weapon properly.

Again with the denial. Why cant you admit what is a blatant fact, guns are frequently used to murder and mass murder. Is there a day goes by where someone isnt shot? One single day?

Knee jerk denial. What is American murderers weapon of choice? Accusing me of ignorance. Take a look in the mirror.

Walmart doesnt sell guns, just air rifles. At least the one by me doesnt.

It will take awhile but if u commit a crime with a gun 10year if you have a gun and shouldn't 10years and stop selling automatics sell guns for hunting to law abiding citizens like yourself

Why do liberals term someone who stops a crime with a leagally owned gun labled a "hereo" and not someone who put thier life at risk to save others, and or defending their life and saving others. I don't think people set out to play hereo. I would think even most liberals value thier own lives enought to fight for them.

You need a special license to buy a automatic weapon.

The average person does not have a automatic weapon.

MSM loves to say a semi automatic weapon because it sounds more dangerous and most people think it means a full auto military weapon.

There are plenty of hunting rifles that are semi automatic.

They want you to be more fearful of a weapon because it has a pistol grip on it.

Humor me, have you ever fired a semi auto rifle? I'll play it out for you.

Let's assume it takes, on average, two shots to fatally wound. That's 15 potential victims in a single magazine. If you're good, and don't miss, it would take about a minute to acquire and fire upon 15 targets. In this time, people will scatter madly. We haven't even gotten to a reload yet.

A car-- dozens of people could be laying dead or injured in your tracks in a matter of seconds, no time for anyone to react.

You still have no valid argument that I can see.

Look in the mirror? When I look in the mirror, I see someone who protected two lives with a firearm years ago...two lives which, if it weren't for my actions, would not be here today. So, say what you will from across the pond, but I actually have a dog in this fight. I guess it's easy to piss into the wind with your divine intellect.

You are not educated enough on the topic to carry on a debate. Sorry dear.

+1,000,000 Excellent sign that needs to be put in front of everyones face right now!!

Woah, poisoning would be easier? But I thought you just said that the evil rifle was, by far, the easiest way to kill? Your argument is crumbling.

Just another nearsighted foreigner pulling out the stops to vilify something they know little about. Nice attempt.

that signs for a prison not a school
what the fucks wrong wrong with you people

Demographics.
[link to quickfacts.census.gov]

[link to www.fin.gov.on.ca]

I know, only a racist ever uses demographics.

And you're right, not a day goes by when there's not a shooting. Most are done with illegal guns, in gun-free zones, and/or by felons who shouldn't possess a gun to begin with. Criminals don't follow gun laws.

It is much more rare for a formerly law-abiding citizen to carry out mass murder with a legally purchased firearm.

We have 300 million guns. Most do not have a paper trail to the current possessor. In my county you are not required to register your handguns or long guns. As far as the government is concerned, I am not a gun owner...although I own mine completely legally. A gun grab is the quintessential knee jerk reaction....not this denial you speak of.

+1

The rationale that more guns will lead to a safer community is nauseating.

Yes, criminals are the ones that use guns in bad ways. But the fact is that guns are too available and too powerful. The combination leads to the craziness we see.

Nobody is saying that gun owners are bad people. What some us are saying is that for the good of all, we need sensible controls.

So are you suggesting that the answer to this is to arm everyone? Who wants to live in a society like that?

We have sensible gun controls right now. But is insensible not to protect children.

An armed society is a polite society.
Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
Robert A. Heinlein

in 2009 there were 42 gun-related deaths in Great Britain. This number includes homicides, suicides and accidental deaths.

In 2005 (the latest year for which numbers are available) there were 30,364 gun-related deaths in the United States. This number includes homicides, suicides, and accidental deaths.

True, the United States has more people than Great Britain so you can’t really compare these two numbers. Britain has about 61 million, while the United States has about 296 million, which gives the U.S. about five times the population of Great Britain. So, a better comparison of the numbers would be to multiple the British gun deaths by five.

42 x 5 = 210

Now we can compare the numbers.

Gun-related deaths for Great Britain (if given a population equal to the United States) = 210

Gun-related deaths in the United States = 30,364.

210 vs. 30,364

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Cool... So at least Adam Lanza was nice and polite when slaughtering those children.

I'm sure that will be of great comfort to those grieving parents!

You fail to mention the steep uptick in knife violence after your gun ban.

Are you even paying attention? One of the teachers did have a gun - heck, she had a bunch of them. Her son took them, shot and killed her, and then went to her school and shot a whole bunch of other people. If she hadn't had the guns, this would never have happened.

^This^

She had a mentally unbalanced person living in the home with the guns,
she even taught him how to use them.

This is the act of an irresponsible parent and gun owner.
If you have a mentally unbalanced person in your home, don't have guns as well.
The odds are sooner or later they will snap.

Are you paying attention? According to the current "story," his Mom had nothing to do with the school. If we assume there are bad/evil people, I hope we agree on this point, they will do bad things. Why not protect yourself, your family, your community? Maybe we should just toss out all the mentally unbalanced people? Who would be the arbiter?

i"m paying attention, it was the Mother who taught him how to shoot the weapons and who owned the weapon ultimately used to kill her and the others. it obviously didn't protect her to own those guns now did it.

Don't keep weapons and ammo in your home if you live with a mentally unstable, SSRI user.

What part of that was not clear.

Did the gun laws in Britain stop this?

>On 2 June 2010, Derek Bird, a 52-year-old taxi driver, shot and killed 12 people and injured 11 others while driving through Cumbria.

Ummm....no. Sure didn't. If you want to play stats, that makes Britain much more likely to have a mass slaying by some deranged individual, per gun related death, than the US.

What you you bet that pricipal and guidance councellor, and a number of teachers were wishing they had a gun when that nutbag shot his way through the front door.

And that was the first one in Great Britain since 1996 - and before that you have to go back to 1987. How many shooting sprees have their been in the US in the meantime?

Too many.

But every simgle one of those could have been stopped by a single armed citizen. (or Soldier in the Ft. Hood case) And all of these in gun free zones. I'm still trying to figure that one out. And most with illigally aquired/possessed guns at that. Go figure.

The reality is we have a hoodlum gang culture glorifying guns and the damage done by them within the gang culture. These guns are transfered underground and would continue to to so even with an all out ban. With 300 million some-odd guns in the US, there's no way to gather them all up even if most wanted to.

OK, so ban the scary looking black guns, right? The AR-15 and it's clones are the most popular gun in America. It's like Barbie Doll for guys: you can dress them up and show them off to all your friends. You can make one suite whatever your shooting needs. Need a varmit gun? Screw on a heavy barrel. Want to to do some long range target shooting? Make that heavy barrel a little longer. Want to share your AR with your petite wife? Be sure you have a collapsable stock. Want to round up some deer meat for the freezer? Get an AR chambered in .308. Are you a big hog hunter? The .458 Socom is one of the best. Like to target shoot, or shoot silouettes? An entry level AR will do just fine. They are not just for the Army any more.

Last Edited by Maguyver on 12/17/2012 03:05 PM