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Dear Gun Control Idiots...

 
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+1,000,000 Excellent sign that needs to be put in front of everyones face right now!!
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lack of guns at the school did not save those poor babies, maybe it is time to change course?

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I refuse to take any gun lover seriously unless they're willing to admit that the problem with guns is that they make killing EASY. I understand the desire to hang on to your guns and the right to protect yourself, I'm not interested in seeing you disarmed, but if you can't admit that a gun makes it much easier to kill than any other method then you obviously can't find any legitimate reasons to hang on to them, so you resort to denial.

While we're on this subject, I was looking up uk gun statistics the other night. There are over 2 million legal guns here. We outgun our police and military COMBINED. That is a direct result of gun control, because our police don't need to be armed. So don't be fooled into thinking that our gun control has left us defenseless against our government.

In Scotland alone there is one gun for every 24 people, but hardly any shootings.

Something to think about.
 Quoting: ming

Your police are Armed:
"Parts of London are specifically patrolled by Armed Response Vehicles, whose crew of three are armed with Glock 17 self-loading pistols and Heckler and Koch MP5 carbines."
Since the Summer of 2010; "All firearms officers in England and Wales now have access to higher calibre weaponry, enhanced tactics and training.
There is permanent additional police firearms capacity in major cities and improved procedures to provide rapid back-up from neighbouring areas."

Just not all of them.

"So don't be fooled into thinking that our gun control has left us defenseless against our government.'
Really?
As for the type of weapons you have:
"A firearm usually describes a cartridge-loading, rifled-barrel longarm (rifle) with a barrel not shorter than 300mm. Firearms include: muzzle-loading rifles or pistols; shotguns with a magazine capacity greater than three; airguns with power ratings exceeding 12 ft/lbs for rifles and 6ft/lbs for pistols; and historic pistols kept at home as part of a collection or kept at a designated historic site and used for non-competitive target practice."
Muzzle loaders are now the only legal useable handguns available to UK shooters (apart from the historic cartridge firing handguns kept at designated sites)


I'm sure your not "defenseless" using muzzle loading rifles and pistols, air rifles and collectables against the Military with full auto rifles and pistols!!!!
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12/17/2012 04:23 PM
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Ill explain something that only a tiny amount of people here get. Gun Control does NOT = gun prohibition.
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Ahh yes, nothing like liberal stupidity....seen pouring onto the internet in light of the recent shootings.....See if you assholes can gather enough brain cells together to understand this:


CRIMINALS DO NOT FOLLOW THE LAWS - THAT'S WHAT MAKES THEM CRIMINALS!!!


Why is that simple concept so difficult for you retards to comprehend?!?!


Entering a school with a gun: Illegal

Did this law prevent the crime? NO.


Murder: Illegal

Did this law prevent the crime? NO.


Lets just say the gun grabbing nazis had their way and all guns were banned (the criminals would still have them and crimes like this would be 100 times worse and more frequent) but lets just say for the sake of conversation that only the police had guns....

Did the police prevent this crime? NO.


So once again you morons arguments are completely baseless and your cowardly fear of an inanimate object shows through. The only ones you can possible get to agree with you are other idiots like yourself.


Thank you and go fuck yourself.

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 Quoting: Logic and Reason 8764951


Its not "criminals" that go to schools and shoot children. Its "NUT JOBS" that have easy access to lethal weapons. You my friend, are the idiot!
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12/17/2012 04:39 PM
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to the IDIOTS who want to get rid of ALL GUNS, so the bad guys can't get any...

1. this is a simplistic answer, just like making DRUGS illegal, so nobody can get high.

making DRUGS illegal, made them 100 to 1,000 TIMES as profitable, resulting in a massive black market, that is now unstoppable.

making GUNS illegal, will have the same result.

2. in order to "get rid of ALL GUNS, so the bad guys can't get any..." ;

you have to get rid of ALL GUNS; and that means;

NO guns for POLICE,

NO guns for BORDER PATROL / I.C.E. / CUSTOMS,

NO guns for SECRET SERVICE,

NO guns for C.I.A. ,

NO guns for F.B.I. ,

NO guns for B.A.T.F. , or any other gov't. 'alphabet' org. ,

NO guns for NATIONAL GUARD,

NO guns for SECURITY GUARDS,

NO guns for LAW ABIDING CITIZENS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES,

AND, that means NO guns for THE ARMY, NAVY, AIRFORCE, or MARINES.

because; if only the 'good guys' have guns, that is where the 'bad guys' will get their guns from.

even with the open availability we have today,
guns ARE routinely stolen from cops and army bases and army storage wharehouses.

so;
please, ACCEPT THIS FACT;
GUNS EXIST.
they exist, they are not going away, and they can NOT be un-invented.

please, ACCEPT THIS FACT;
THERE IS NO PERFECT SAFETY.
everyone dies, eventually.
and many die before old age.
there is no way to keep everyone safe.

if you could get rid of all guns;
crude, but functional muzzle loaders can be made with plumbing pipe.

and how many people could you run over with a car, if you wanted to ?
just wait for a big event, when hundreds of people are waiting in line on the sidewalk.

what about chain saws ??

and flammable things like a glass bottle full of gasoline, are super -easy to make, and can be quite deadly, and there is more collateral dammage.

please, ACCEPT THIS FACT;
there is no way to stop a free-roaming, crazy nut, who is willing to die to carry out his plan.

so what is the answer ???

there is NO ACCESS TO GUNS, OR ANY OTHER DANGEROUS THINGS, LIKE TOOLS, EQUIPMENT, VEHICLES, OR CHEMICALS in the loony bin / nut house.

THAT is the answer.

tell the greedy fucking republicans, who SHUT DOWN all the high quality, gov't. funded nut houses;
WE NEED THESE SOCIAL PROGRAMS,
and if you do not pay for it in TAX dollars, we will all pay in lives lost, and a scarry, dangerous country to live in.

(the following is sarcasm);
WHY NOT JUST SHUT DOWN ALL THE FUCKING PRISONS, TOO !!
(just like they did with all the nut houses,)

and release all the prisoners to the streets,
(just like they did with the insane nuts,)

THAT WOULD SURE SAVE A GIANT PILE OF FUCKING MONEY, WOULDN'T IT ?????

THEN WE COULD GIVE EVEN MORE TAX CUTS TO THE FUCKING MILLIONAIRES !!!!!
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12/17/2012 04:44 PM
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I refuse to take any gun lover seriously unless they're willing to admit that the problem with guns is that they make killing EASY. I understand the desire to hang on to your guns and the right to protect yourself, I'm not interested in seeing you disarmed, but if you can't admit that a gun makes it much easier to kill than any other method then you obviously can't find any legitimate reasons to hang on to them, so you resort to denial.

While we're on this subject, I was looking up uk gun statistics the other night. There are over 2 million legal guns here. We outgun our police and military COMBINED. That is a direct result of gun control, because our police don't need to be armed. So don't be fooled into thinking that our gun control has left us defenseless against our government.

In Scotland alone there is one gun for every 24 people, but hardly any shootings.

Something to think about.
 Quoting: ming


Britain the most violent country in Europe. More violent than the USA.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Violent attacks have soared 77% in Britain since this....

"Britain has had few firearms rampage incidents in modern times. During the latter half of the 20th century there were only two incidents in which people holding licensed firearms went on shooting sprees and killed on a large scale, the Hungerford massacre of 1987 and the Dunblane school massacre of 1996; each led to strong public and political demands to restrict firearm use, and tightening of laws. The result has been among the strictest firearms laws in the world.[11] After Hungerford, the Firearms (Amendment) Act 1988 criminalised most semi-automatic long-barrelled weapons; it was generally supported by the Labour opposition although some Labour backbenchers thought it inadequate.[12] After the second incident, the Firearms (Amendment) Act 1997 criminalised private possession of most handguns having a calibre over .22; the Snowdrop Campaign continued to press for a wider ban, and in 1997 the incoming Labour government introduced the Firearms (Amendment) (No. 2) Act, which extended this to most handguns with a calibre of .22 (there are exceptions for some antique handguns and black-powder revolvers.)"

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Ahh yes, nothing like liberal stupidity....seen pouring onto the internet in light of the recent shootings.....See if you assholes can gather enough brain cells together to understand this:


CRIMINALS DO NOT FOLLOW THE LAWS - THAT'S WHAT MAKES THEM CRIMINALS!!!


Why is that simple concept so difficult for you retards to comprehend?!?!


Entering a school with a gun: Illegal

Did this law prevent the crime? NO.


Murder: Illegal

Did this law prevent the crime? NO.


Lets just say the gun grabbing nazis had their way and all guns were banned (the criminals would still have them and crimes like this would be 100 times worse and more frequent) but lets just say for the sake of conversation that only the police had guns....

Did the police prevent this crime? NO.


So once again you morons arguments are completely baseless and your cowardly fear of an inanimate object shows through. The only ones you can possible get to agree with you are other idiots like yourself.


Thank you and go fuck yourself.

rant
 Quoting: Logic and Reason 8764951


Its not "criminals" that go to schools and shoot children. Its "NUT JOBS" that have easy access to lethal weapons. You my friend, are the idiot!
 Quoting: TheBridge


So when did the killer become a criminal after he killed his mother, then went to the school and killed those children and teachers. He became a criminal when he laid out plans to do something heinous. Not after the fact. Conspiracy and criminal intent well before anyone was killed. Everyone has easy access to lethal weapons. Do you drive, do you eat with utensils, do you cook, do you play any sports, do you build anything. Do you see where this is going. The problem is not GUNS the problem is with our society and brainwashed kids and adults who are caught up in some materialistic world who are drugged out of their minds with so called legal drugs. People do things that hurt and kill other people every single day in every part of the world with guns and without them. It is fact that every single instance going back to the 50's of a gun related mass shooting took place in gun free zones, except for one, and in the last 20 or so years we have been pumping ourselves and children full of legal drugs.
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What some us are saying is that for the good of all, we need sensible controls.
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these massacres keep happening in the states THAT ALLREADY HAVE THE TOUGHEST GUN CONTROL LAWS IN THE COUNTRY.


explain that away, please.
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Re: Dear Gun Control Idiots...
to the IDIOTS who want to get rid of ALL GUNS, so the bad guys can't get any...

1. this is a simplistic answer, just like making DRUGS illegal, so nobody can get high.

making DRUGS illegal, made them 100 to 1,000 TIMES as profitable, resulting in a massive black market, that is now unstoppable.

making GUNS illegal, will have the same result.

2. in order to "get rid of ALL GUNS, so the bad guys can't get any..." ;

you have to get rid of ALL GUNS; and that means;

NO guns for POLICE,

NO guns for BORDER PATROL / I.C.E. / CUSTOMS,

NO guns for SECRET SERVICE,

NO guns for C.I.A. ,

NO guns for F.B.I. ,

NO guns for B.A.T.F. , or any other gov't. 'alphabet' org. ,

NO guns for NATIONAL GUARD,

NO guns for SECURITY GUARDS,

NO guns for LAW ABIDING CITIZENS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES,

AND, that means NO guns for THE ARMY, NAVY, AIRFORCE, or MARINES.

because; if only the 'good guys' have guns, that is where the 'bad guys' will get their guns from.

even with the open availability we have today,
guns ARE routinely stolen from cops and army bases and army storage wharehouses.

so;
please, ACCEPT THIS FACT;
GUNS EXIST.
they exist, they are not going away, and they can NOT be un-invented.

please, ACCEPT THIS FACT;
THERE IS NO PERFECT SAFETY.
everyone dies, eventually.
and many die before old age.
there is no way to keep everyone safe.

if you could get rid of all guns;
crude, but functional muzzle loaders can be made with plumbing pipe.

and how many people could you run over with a car, if you wanted to ?
just wait for a big event, when hundreds of people are waiting in line on the sidewalk.

what about chain saws ??

and flammable things like a glass bottle full of gasoline, are super -easy to make, and can be quite deadly, and there is more collateral dammage.

please, ACCEPT THIS FACT;
there is no way to stop a free-roaming, crazy nut, who is willing to die to carry out his plan.

so what is the answer ???

there is NO ACCESS TO GUNS, OR ANY OTHER DANGEROUS THINGS, LIKE TOOLS, EQUIPMENT, VEHICLES, OR CHEMICALS in the loony bin / nut house.

THAT is the answer.

tell the greedy fucking republicans, who SHUT DOWN all the high quality, gov't. funded nut houses;
WE NEED THESE SOCIAL PROGRAMS,
and if you do not pay for it in TAX dollars, we will all pay in lives lost, and a scarry, dangerous country to live in.

(the following is sarcasm);
WHY NOT JUST SHUT DOWN ALL THE FUCKING PRISONS, TOO !!
(just like they did with all the nut houses,)

and release all the prisoners to the streets,
(just like they did with the insane nuts,)

THAT WOULD SURE SAVE A GIANT PILE OF FUCKING MONEY, WOULDN'T IT ?????

THEN WE COULD GIVE EVEN MORE TAX CUTS TO THE FUCKING MILLIONAIRES !!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7462090


^^^^^^

the more the war on drugs fails,
and the more drugs there are,
and the worse it gets,
they use the failure as evidence we need to 'get tough on drugs'.

same with guns.

the more 'gun control' disarms the victims,
the more victims there are,
then, that is evidence we need MORE gun control.

bullshit !!!

if you can not stop all the TONS of drugs coming into the country,

how you gonna stop guns ???
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have some PERSPECTIVE, people !!

how many people, PER YEAR, die from alcohol and tobacco ???

about a HALF MILLION !!!!!!!!

EVERY YEAR !!!!!!!!

in florida, there are MORE SWIMING POOL DEATHS,

than accidental GUN DEATHS !!


nobody is asking for pools to be banned.
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+1,000,000 Excellent sign that needs to be put in front of everyones face right now!!
 Quoting: chaakin


I agree and will do my part to see to it.
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Arm the teachers. Problem solved.
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Really? Then the bombers start.
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+1,000,000 Excellent sign that needs to be put in front of everyones face right now!!
 Quoting: chaakin


I agree and will do my part to see to it.
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Find a photo of the sign at Area 51... see the warning...

does it read, Gun Free Zone.. or what?
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Ahh yes, nothing like liberal stupidity....seen pouring onto the internet in light of the recent shootings.....See if you assholes can gather enough brain cells together to understand this:


CRIMINALS DO NOT FOLLOW THE LAWS - THAT'S WHAT MAKES THEM CRIMINALS!!!


Why is that simple concept so difficult for you retards to comprehend?!?!


Entering a school with a gun: Illegal

Did this law prevent the crime? NO.


Murder: Illegal

Did this law prevent the crime? NO.


Lets just say the gun grabbing nazis had their way and all guns were banned (the criminals would still have them and crimes like this would be 100 times worse and more frequent) but lets just say for the sake of conversation that only the police had guns....

Did the police prevent this crime? NO.


So once again you morons arguments are completely baseless and your cowardly fear of an inanimate object shows through. The only ones you can possible get to agree with you are other idiots like yourself.


Thank you and go fuck yourself.

rant
 Quoting: Logic and Reason 8764951

1.if the shooter had to use a pistol instead of what he used the tragedy would have been lessened
2. if a teacher was armed what would they be armed with? a pistol? pistol against a semi automatic not very good odds
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+1,000,000 Excellent sign that needs to be put in front of everyones face right now!!
 Quoting: chaakin


I agree and will do my part to see to it.
 Quoting: DaNose


Find a photo of the sign at Area 51... see the warning...

does it read, Gun Free Zone.. or what?
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nope it says at the end use of lethal force as does every installation like it groom lake is nothing compared to other sites. ;)
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Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
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I refuse to take any gun lover seriously unless they're willing to admit that the problem with guns is that they make killing EASY. I understand the desire to hang on to your guns and the right to protect yourself, I'm not interested in seeing you disarmed, but if you can't admit that a gun makes it much easier to kill than any other method then you obviously can't find any legitimate reasons to hang on to them, so you resort to denial.

While we're on this subject, I was looking up uk gun statistics the other night. There are over 2 million legal guns here. We outgun our police and military COMBINED. That is a direct result of gun control, because our police don't need to be armed. So don't be fooled into thinking that our gun control has left us defenseless against our government.

In Scotland alone there is one gun for every 24 people, but hardly any shootings.

Something to think about.
 Quoting: ming

Your police are Armed:
"Parts of London are specifically patrolled by Armed Response Vehicles, whose crew of three are armed with Glock 17 self-loading pistols and Heckler and Koch MP5 carbines."
Since the Summer of 2010; "All firearms officers in England and Wales now have access to higher calibre weaponry, enhanced tactics and training.
There is permanent additional police firearms capacity in major cities and improved procedures to provide rapid back-up from neighbouring areas."

Just not all of them.

"So don't be fooled into thinking that our gun control has left us defenseless against our government.'
Really?
As for the type of weapons you have:
"A firearm usually describes a cartridge-loading, rifled-barrel longarm (rifle) with a barrel not shorter than 300mm. Firearms include: muzzle-loading rifles or pistols; shotguns with a magazine capacity greater than three; airguns with power ratings exceeding 12 ft/lbs for rifles and 6ft/lbs for pistols; and historic pistols kept at home as part of a collection or kept at a designated historic site and used for non-competitive target practice."
Muzzle loaders are now the only legal useable handguns available to UK shooters (apart from the historic cartridge firing handguns kept at designated sites)


I'm sure your not "defenseless" using muzzle loading rifles and pistols, air rifles and collectables against the Military with full auto rifles and pistols!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307060


The metropolitan police have less than 8 thousand guns. Our forces stand at roughly 180,000. Tell me, is life in america really so violent and terrifying, are you really all so frightened that something is going to happen to you that you think you need to be armed to the teeth for safety? You all sound really scared.

Just keep swallowing the fear pill and throwing money at the aarms dealers, I'm sure theyre chuckling nd rubbing their hands together gleefully with dollar signs in their eyes every time something like this happens.

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Switzerland works. Arm everybody. And make them all do national service.

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Too bad losers. Obama is the man and he says gun control so it's gun control. Either accept it or accept it.
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I refuse to take any gun lover seriously unless they're willing to admit that the problem with guns is that they make killing EASY. I understand the desire to hang on to your guns and the right to protect yourself, I'm not interested in seeing you disarmed, but if you can't admit that a gun makes it much easier to kill than any other method then you obviously can't find any legitimate reasons to hang on to them, so you resort to denial.

While we're on this subject, I was looking up uk gun statistics the other night. There are over 2 million legal guns here. We outgun our police and military COMBINED. That is a direct result of gun control, because our police don't need to be armed. So don't be fooled into thinking that our gun control has left us defenseless against our government.

In Scotland alone there is one gun for every 24 people, but hardly any shootings.

Something to think about.
 Quoting: ming


Im sure youve heard this before,but we quit giving a shit what you UK folks think we should do in 1775.

Something to think about, in 1940, YOUR island was facing invasion,there were advertisements in all major US newspapers pleading for Americans to send their extra firearms to arm your citizens. cast a look East, Scotsman,there is a hungry bear on the edge of the European forest.
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Our forces generally don't kill us over little things. Do you know why? Because they aren't scared we're going to pull a gun. Watching police shows based in the US shows that your citizens and your police don't feel "safer" because of the presence of guns. You're all shit scared of each other. When a car backfires outside my house I don't have to look out the window to see who's been shot, I know its a car backfiring.

Who are you more frightened of? Your government, police, or countrymen? All of the above? If you were in a building and everyone there was carrying concealed, would you feel oh so safe, or would your trigger finger be itching, just waiting for the moment you need to "protect" yourself?

If one of the teachers at sandy hook had a gun, what makes you so sure they would be a crack shot able to take down an armored man carrying an AR in a stressful situation? Its like you think having a gun turns you into an immortal superhero.
Out of this ugliness may come,
Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
-William Montgomerie

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
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Our forces generally don't kill us over little things. Do you know why? Because they aren't scared we're going to pull a gun. Watching police shows based in the US shows that your citizens and your police don't feel "safer" because of the presence of guns. You're all shit scared of each other. When a car backfires outside my house I don't have to look out the window to see who's been shot, I know its a car backfiring.

Who are you more frightened of? Your government, police, or countrymen? All of the above? If you were in a building and everyone there was carrying concealed, would you feel oh so safe, or would your trigger finger be itching, just waiting for the moment you need to "protect" yourself?

If one of the teachers at sandy hook had a gun, what makes you so sure they would be a crack shot able to take down an armored man carrying an AR in a stressful situation? Its like you think having a gun turns you into an immortal superhero.
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For one thing, a teacher simply wouldnt be just given a gun,they would have been trained to operate it,and how to handle the situation. a few shots fired in the direction of the shooter would have made him take pause,and find cover, his training was limited to Halo3 or some shit.a gun doesnt have to kill to save lives.If more than one teacher had been armed, he would have been faced with a true dilemna, unlike what the news pretends to know, his AR was not a machine gun, he was also not a skilled soldier that was used to reloading it under fire,after his mag was empty he could have been an easy target.
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Re: Dear Gun Control Idiots...
I refuse to take any gun lover seriously unless they're willing to admit that the problem with guns is that they make killing EASY. I understand the desire to hang on to your guns and the right to protect yourself, I'm not interested in seeing you disarmed, but if you can't admit that a gun makes it much easier to kill than any other method then you obviously can't find any legitimate reasons to hang on to them, so you resort to denial.

While we're on this subject, I was looking up uk gun statistics the other night. There are over 2 million legal guns here. We outgun our police and military COMBINED. That is a direct result of gun control, because our police don't need to be armed. So don't be fooled into thinking that our gun control has left us defenseless against our government.

In Scotland alone there is one gun for every 24 people, but hardly any shootings.

Something to think about.
 Quoting: ming


Im sure youve heard this before,but we quit giving a shit what you UK folks think we should do in 1775.

Something to think about, in 1940, YOUR island was facing invasion,there were advertisements in all major US newspapers pleading for Americans to send their extra firearms to arm your citizens. cast a look East, Scotsman,there is a hungry bear on the edge of the European forest.
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Yep, full of fear, and aggression, always wishing bad shit on people just for giving their opinion. You're such a mature and thoughtful nation, no wonder the world loves you so much. Straight in with the attacks.

Since you're clearly too thick to take in what I wrote, I'll explain it again. Nowhere in that post did I say a single thing about what you should or shouldn't do, you made that up in your paranoid head. Enjoy your fear and anger pussy boy.
Out of this ugliness may come,
Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
-William Montgomerie

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
-Ella Wheeler Wilcox
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I refuse to take any gun lover seriously unless they're willing to admit that the problem with guns is that they make killing EASY. I understand the desire to hang on to your guns and the right to protect yourself, I'm not interested in seeing you disarmed, but if you can't admit that a gun makes it much easier to kill than any other method then you obviously can't find any legitimate reasons to hang on to them, so you resort to denial.

While we're on this subject, I was looking up uk gun statistics the other night. There are over 2 million legal guns here. We outgun our police and military COMBINED. That is a direct result of gun control, because our police don't need to be armed. So don't be fooled into thinking that our gun control has left us defenseless against our government.

In Scotland alone there is one gun for every 24 people, but hardly any shootings.

Something to think about.
 Quoting: ming


Im sure youve heard this before,but we quit giving a shit what you UK folks think we should do in 1775.

Something to think about, in 1940, YOUR island was facing invasion,there were advertisements in all major US newspapers pleading for Americans to send their extra firearms to arm your citizens. cast a look East, Scotsman,there is a hungry bear on the edge of the European forest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30763983


Yep, full of fear, and aggression, always wishing bad shit on people just for giving their opinion. You're such a mature and thoughtful nation, no wonder the world loves you so much. Straight in with the attacks.

Since you're clearly too thick to take in what I wrote, I'll explain it again. Nowhere in that post did I say a single thing about what you should or shouldn't do, you made that up in your paranoid head. Enjoy your fear and anger pussy boy.
 Quoting: ming


you sound butt hurt,We dont really care if "the world loves us" Weve seen what your horseshit society is about and we dont care to partake.
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Our forces generally don't kill us over little things. Do you know why? Because they aren't scared we're going to pull a gun. Watching police shows based in the US shows that your citizens and your police don't feel "safer" because of the presence of guns. You're all shit scared of each other. When a car backfires outside my house I don't have to look out the window to see who's been shot, I know its a car backfiring.

Who are you more frightened of? Your government, police, or countrymen? All of the above? If you were in a building and everyone there was carrying concealed, would you feel oh so safe, or would your trigger finger be itching, just waiting for the moment you need to "protect" yourself?

If one of the teachers at sandy hook had a gun, what makes you so sure they would be a crack shot able to take down an armored man carrying an AR in a stressful situation? Its like you think having a gun turns you into an immortal superhero.
 Quoting: ming


For one thing, a teacher simply wouldnt be just given a gun,they would have been trained to operate it,and how to handle the situation. a few shots fired in the direction of the shooter would have made him take pause,and find cover, his training was limited to Halo3 or some shit.a gun doesnt have to kill to save lives.If more than one teacher had been armed, he would have been faced with a true dilemna, unlike what the news pretends to know, his AR was not a machine gun, he was also not a skilled soldier that was used to reloading it under fire,after his mag was empty he could have been an easy target.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30763983


Yeah good point. Although doesn't the story go that his mother trained him to shoot? Obviously that's not military training, but some experience. The only problem is that even with properly trained teachers taking a child hostage would leave a sticky situation. Not a lot of teachers would risk hitting one of their kids. I guess nothing is fullproof really.
Out of this ugliness may come,
Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
-William Montgomerie

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
-Ella Wheeler Wilcox
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I refuse to take any gun lover seriously unless they're willing to admit that the problem with guns is that they make killing EASY. I understand the desire to hang on to your guns and the right to protect yourself, I'm not interested in seeing you disarmed, but if you can't admit that a gun makes it much easier to kill than any other method then you obviously can't find any legitimate reasons to hang on to them, so you resort to denial.

While we're on this subject, I was looking up uk gun statistics the other night. There are over 2 million legal guns here. We outgun our police and military COMBINED. That is a direct result of gun control, because our police don't need to be armed. So don't be fooled into thinking that our gun control has left us defenseless against our government.

In Scotland alone there is one gun for every 24 people, but hardly any shootings.

Something to think about.
 Quoting: ming


Im sure youve heard this before,but we quit giving a shit what you UK folks think we should do in 1775.

Something to think about, in 1940, YOUR island was facing invasion,there were advertisements in all major US newspapers pleading for Americans to send their extra firearms to arm your citizens. cast a look East, Scotsman,there is a hungry bear on the edge of the European forest.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30763983


Yep, full of fear, and aggression, always wishing bad shit on people just for giving their opinion. You're such a mature and thoughtful nation, no wonder the world loves you so much. Straight in with the attacks.

Since you're clearly too thick to take in what I wrote, I'll explain it again. Nowhere in that post did I say a single thing about what you should or shouldn't do, you made that up in your paranoid head. Enjoy your fear and anger pussy boy.
 Quoting: ming


you sound butt hurt,We dont really care if "the world loves us" Weve seen what your horseshit society is about and we dont care to partake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30763983


Careful, your obsession with hurting butts is showing again.
Out of this ugliness may come,
Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
-William Montgomerie

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
-Ella Wheeler Wilcox
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12/24/2012 08:16 AM
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:whichsign:
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+1,000,000 Excellent sign that needs to be put in front of everyones face right now!!
 Quoting: chaakin


I agree and will do my part to see to it.
 Quoting: DaNose


Actually, you have to be retarded to think either of those signs would stop somebody was mentally ill. Sounds more and more like this "logic and reason" meshes along the same lines as any from the party of young-Earth creationism.
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12/24/2012 08:20 AM
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Well you don't hear of too many "mass shootings" at gun shows or gun clubs do you.
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12/24/2012 08:21 AM
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Re: Dear Gun Control Idiots...
Our forces generally don't kill us over little things. Do you know why? Because they aren't scared we're going to pull a gun. Watching police shows based in the US shows that your citizens and your police don't feel "safer" because of the presence of guns. You're all shit scared of each other. When a car backfires outside my house I don't have to look out the window to see who's been shot, I know its a car backfiring.

Who are you more frightened of? Your government, police, or countrymen? All of the above? If you were in a building and everyone there was carrying concealed, would you feel oh so safe, or would your trigger finger be itching, just waiting for the moment you need to "protect" yourself?

If one of the teachers at sandy hook had a gun, what makes you so sure they would be a crack shot able to take down an armored man carrying an AR in a stressful situation? Its like you think having a gun turns you into an immortal superhero.
 Quoting: ming


For one thing, a teacher simply wouldnt be just given a gun,they would have been trained to operate it,and how to handle the situation. a few shots fired in the direction of the shooter would have made him take pause,and find cover, his training was limited to Halo3 or some shit.a gun doesnt have to kill to save lives.If more than one teacher had been armed, he would have been faced with a true dilemna, unlike what the news pretends to know, his AR was not a machine gun, he was also not a skilled soldier that was used to reloading it under fire,after his mag was empty he could have been an easy target.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30763983


Yeah good point. Although doesn't the story go that his mother trained him to shoot? Obviously that's not military training, but some experience. The only problem is that even with properly trained teachers taking a child hostage would leave a sticky situation. Not a lot of teachers would risk hitting one of their kids. I guess nothing is fullproof really.
 Quoting: ming


Training to operate the weapon is different that how to do battle. Almost anyone can learn how to lock the bolt and pull a trigger and aim at a target, but to operate the weapon under duress is entirely different. The guy was a pyscotic murderer, who killed his own mother,and then attacked those he knew could not shoot back.
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:whichsign:
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Killers are still gonna kill, regardless of the sign or consequence. When there's a will, there's a way.
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Re: Dear Gun Control Idiots...
Our forces generally don't kill us over little things. Do you know why? Because they aren't scared we're going to pull a gun. Watching police shows based in the US shows that your citizens and your police don't feel "safer" because of the presence of guns. You're all shit scared of each other. When a car backfires outside my house I don't have to look out the window to see who's been shot, I know its a car backfiring.

Who are you more frightened of? Your government, police, or countrymen? All of the above? If you were in a building and everyone there was carrying concealed, would you feel oh so safe, or would your trigger finger be itching, just waiting for the moment you need to "protect" yourself?

If one of the teachers at sandy hook had a gun, what makes you so sure they would be a crack shot able to take down an armored man carrying an AR in a stressful situation? Its like you think having a gun turns you into an immortal superhero.
 Quoting: ming


For one thing, a teacher simply wouldnt be just given a gun,they would have been trained to operate it,and how to handle the situation. a few shots fired in the direction of the shooter would have made him take pause,and find cover, his training was limited to Halo3 or some shit.a gun doesnt have to kill to save lives.If more than one teacher had been armed, he would have been faced with a true dilemna, unlike what the news pretends to know, his AR was not a machine gun, he was also not a skilled soldier that was used to reloading it under fire,after his mag was empty he could have been an easy target.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30763983


Yeah good point. Although doesn't the story go that his mother trained him to shoot? Obviously that's not military training, but some experience. The only problem is that even with properly trained teachers taking a child hostage would leave a sticky situation. Not a lot of teachers would risk hitting one of their kids. I guess nothing is fullproof really.
 Quoting: ming


Training to operate the weapon is different that how to do battle. Almost anyone can learn how to lock the bolt and pull a trigger and aim at a target, but to operate the weapon under duress is entirely different. The guy was a pyscotic murderer, who killed his own mother,and then attacked those he knew could not shoot back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30763983


Ill follow up this with an example, In WWII, the highly trained Germans simply mowed over the Soviet conscripts due to training. The Soviets knew how to operate their rifles for the most part,but until they gained experience, they were easily defeated.Another example would be the Chinese conscripts put in front of the Japanese,again they knew how to operate the rifle, but not how to use it to the best effectiveness. fast forward to 1950, the same Chinese soldiers nearly overan Korea.

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