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Dear Gun Control Idiots...

 
Anonymous Coward
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12/24/2012 08:26 AM
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 Quoting: davvi


Killers are still gonna kill, regardless of the sign or consequence. When there's a will, there's a way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30766571


exactly, he could have thrown a Molotov cocktail into the room with the same results.
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12/24/2012 08:26 AM

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Ahh yes, nothing like liberal stupidity....seen pouring onto the internet in light of the recent shootings.....See if you assholes can gather enough brain cells together to understand this:


CRIMINALS DO NOT FOLLOW THE LAWS - THAT'S WHAT MAKES THEM CRIMINALS!!!


Why is that simple concept so difficult for you retards to comprehend?!?!


Entering a school with a gun: Illegal

Did this law prevent the crime? NO.


Murder: Illegal

Did this law prevent the crime? NO.


Lets just say the gun grabbing nazis had their way and all guns were banned (the criminals would still have them and crimes like this would be 100 times worse and more frequent) but lets just say for the sake of conversation that only the police had guns....

Did the police prevent this crime? NO.


So once again you morons arguments are completely baseless and your cowardly fear of an inanimate object shows through. The only ones you can possible get to agree with you are other idiots like yourself.


Thank you and go fuck yourself.

rant
 Quoting: Logic and Reason 8764951

1.if the shooter had to use a pistol instead of what he used the tragedy would have been lessened
2. if a teacher was armed what would they be armed with? a pistol? pistol against a semi automatic not very good odds
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23976587
In close quarters a high cap .40 or .45 would be a lot better than weapon that is 3 and a half feet long. Even though both are semi-automatic. I bet if someone with a ccl on campus would have shot that asshole in the face(no armor there),it would have been over before it got started.However i do have a solution for all of this:All of the anti-gun jack-asses move to a few states up northeast and leave the rest of alone..And dont come crying for help when where you live turns into something like LIBERIA!skull_fing
" It`s only weird the first time" ;p
ming

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12/24/2012 08:34 AM
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For one thing, a teacher simply wouldnt be just given a gun,they would have been trained to operate it,and how to handle the situation. a few shots fired in the direction of the shooter would have made him take pause,and find cover, his training was limited to Halo3 or some shit.a gun doesnt have to kill to save lives.If more than one teacher had been armed, he would have been faced with a true dilemna, unlike what the news pretends to know, his AR was not a machine gun, he was also not a skilled soldier that was used to reloading it under fire,after his mag was empty he could have been an easy target.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30763983


Yeah good point. Although doesn't the story go that his mother trained him to shoot? Obviously that's not military training, but some experience. The only problem is that even with properly trained teachers taking a child hostage would leave a sticky situation. Not a lot of teachers would risk hitting one of their kids. I guess nothing is fullproof really.
 Quoting: ming


Training to operate the weapon is different that how to do battle. Almost anyone can learn how to lock the bolt and pull a trigger and aim at a target, but to operate the weapon under duress is entirely different. The guy was a pyscotic murderer, who killed his own mother,and then attacked those he knew could not shoot back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30763983


Ill follow up this with an example, In WWII, the highly trained Germans simply mowed over the Soviet conscripts due to training. The Soviets knew how to operate their rifles for the most part,but until they gained experience, they were easily defeated.Another example would be the Chinese conscripts put in front of the Japanese,again they knew how to operate the rifle, but not how to use it to the best effectiveness. fast forward to 1950, the same Chinese soldiers nearly overan Korea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30763983


So you would be talking proper military training for the teachers then. How would you deal with the problem of gun storage? Obviously to deal with a situation like that would require fast access but the guns would have to be kept safe from the kids as well. Didn't I read something about smart guns calibrated to individual handprints or something similar?
Out of this ugliness may come,
Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
-William Montgomerie

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
-Ella Wheeler Wilcox
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12/24/2012 08:36 AM
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Everyone in the States should be made to carry a fully-loaded weapon at all times and shoot anyone who even looks the slightest bit funny.
ming

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12/24/2012 08:45 AM
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Everyone in the States should be made to carry a fully-loaded weapon at all times and shoot anyone who even looks the slightest bit funny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30766333


What you'd have there would be your classic Mexican stand off lol guns pointed at everybody.
Out of this ugliness may come,
Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
-William Montgomerie

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
-Ella Wheeler Wilcox
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12/24/2012 08:50 AM
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Yeah good point. Although doesn't the story go that his mother trained him to shoot? Obviously that's not military training, but some experience. The only problem is that even with properly trained teachers taking a child hostage would leave a sticky situation. Not a lot of teachers would risk hitting one of their kids. I guess nothing is fullproof really.
 Quoting: ming


Training to operate the weapon is different that how to do battle. Almost anyone can learn how to lock the bolt and pull a trigger and aim at a target, but to operate the weapon under duress is entirely different. The guy was a pyscotic murderer, who killed his own mother,and then attacked those he knew could not shoot back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30763983


Ill follow up this with an example, In WWII, the highly trained Germans simply mowed over the Soviet conscripts due to training. The Soviets knew how to operate their rifles for the most part,but until they gained experience, they were easily defeated.Another example would be the Chinese conscripts put in front of the Japanese,again they knew how to operate the rifle, but not how to use it to the best effectiveness. fast forward to 1950, the same Chinese soldiers nearly overan Korea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30763983


So you would be talking proper military training for the teachers then. How would you deal with the problem of gun storage? Obviously to deal with a situation like that would require fast access but the guns would have to be kept safe from the kids as well. Didn't I read something about smart guns calibrated to individual handprints or something similar?
 Quoting: ming


Not military as so much at least a self defense handgun course. the teachers could have a quick safe mounted underneath their desk, or carry a smaller framed pistol on their person,like a bodyguard would.I find it amusing, everyone was asking for pilots and flight crews to be armed after 9/11 when the attackers were foreign, but shriek when we aska teacher to carry, probably since most teachers are Liberal drones who do whatever the HNIC says.
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Not military as so much at least a self defense handgun course. the teachers could have a quick safe mounted underneath their desk, or carry a smaller framed pistol on their person,like a bodyguard would.I find it amusing, everyone was asking for pilots and flight crews to be armed after 9/11 when the attackers were foreign, but shriek when we aska teacher to carry, probably since most teachers are Liberal drones who do whatever the HNIC says.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30763983


No they weren't.
Only you yee-haa yanks were.
All civilised humans thought that it was a bad idea.
ming

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Training to operate the weapon is different that how to do battle. Almost anyone can learn how to lock the bolt and pull a trigger and aim at a target, but to operate the weapon under duress is entirely different. The guy was a pyscotic murderer, who killed his own mother,and then attacked those he knew could not shoot back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30763983


Ill follow up this with an example, In WWII, the highly trained Germans simply mowed over the Soviet conscripts due to training. The Soviets knew how to operate their rifles for the most part,but until they gained experience, they were easily defeated.Another example would be the Chinese conscripts put in front of the Japanese,again they knew how to operate the rifle, but not how to use it to the best effectiveness. fast forward to 1950, the same Chinese soldiers nearly overan Korea.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30763983


So you would be talking proper military training for the teachers then. How would you deal with the problem of gun storage? Obviously to deal with a situation like that would require fast access but the guns would have to be kept safe from the kids as well. Didn't I read something about smart guns calibrated to individual handprints or something similar?
 Quoting: ming


Not military as so much at least a self defense handgun course. the teachers could have a quick safe mounted underneath their desk, or carry a smaller framed pistol on their person,like a bodyguard would.I find it amusing, everyone was asking for pilots and flight crews to be armed after 9/11 when the attackers were foreign, but shriek when we aska teacher to carry, probably since most teachers are Liberal drones who do whatever the HNIC says.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30763983


I doubt any sort of training would prepare a person for a combat type situation involving children, can't imagine how stressful that must be.
Erm....I would have thought guns are extremely dangerous on a plane lol. I think its the thought of having guns in such close quarters to children that (understandably) makes people shy at the idea. It seems a lot of people are looking for a less violent world to live in, its a nice sentiment, just probably not very realistic.
Out of this ugliness may come,
Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
-William Montgomerie

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
-Ella Wheeler Wilcox
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12/24/2012 09:34 AM
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Re: Dear Gun Control Idiots...
Ahh yes, nothing like liberal stupidity....seen pouring onto the internet in light of the recent shootings.....See if you assholes can gather enough brain cells together to understand this:


CRIMINALS DO NOT FOLLOW THE LAWS - THAT'S WHAT MAKES THEM CRIMINALS!!!


Why is that simple concept so difficult for you retards to comprehend?!?!


Entering a school with a gun: Illegal

Did this law prevent the crime? NO.


Murder: Illegal

Did this law prevent the crime? NO.


Lets just say the gun grabbing nazis had their way and all guns were banned (the criminals would still have them and crimes like this would be 100 times worse and more frequent) but lets just say for the sake of conversation that only the police had guns....

Did the police prevent this crime? NO.


So once again you morons arguments are completely baseless and your cowardly fear of an inanimate object shows through. The only ones you can possible get to agree with you are other idiots like yourself.


Thank you and go fuck yourself.

rant
 Quoting: Logic and Reason 8764951


I think people are missing the point entirely. Gun control is not the same as banning guns! There has to be stricter rules and guidelines when issuing licenses for guns as well has usage and for what style of gun. Think about it....
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Liberals think that if all the privatly owned guns were collected and melted down into manhole covers or park benches we would all live in peace and harmony JUST PROVES HOW STUPID LIBERALS ARE
Nam Marine
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02/05/2013 05:27 PM
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Blah,blah,blah ! Bunch of bullshit!
There is only one important thing to know !
"They" do NOT have enough people to enforce SQUAT !
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Re: Dear Gun Control Idiots...
On a "Happy" note, there are 30 million armed, pissed off Veterans in this Country! Disarm them.........if you can !
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02/05/2013 05:32 PM

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I refuse to take any gun lover seriously unless they're willing to admit that the problem with guns is that they make killing EASY. I understand the desire to hang on to your guns and the right to protect yourself, I'm not interested in seeing you disarmed, but if you can't admit that a gun makes it much easier to kill than any other method then you obviously can't find any legitimate reasons to hang on to them, so you resort to denial.

While we're on this subject, I was looking up uk gun statistics the other night. There are over 2 million legal guns here. We outgun our police and military COMBINED. That is a direct result of gun control, because our police don't need to be armed. So don't be fooled into thinking that our gun control has left us defenseless against our government.

In Scotland alone there is one gun for every 24 people, but hardly any shootings.

Something to think about.
 Quoting: ming


I hear you, another thing to think about is that Scotland only boarders the rest of the UK, which is an island, with a small population. It is not easy for criminals to sneak guns and other things into the UK.

The United states has numerous states, huge coastlines and boarders a country that is very violent. How can you compare the two? This is apples to oranges.

If we were a little island that bordered nothing but water things might be different.

Don't you think?

Last Edited by Heavenly Alchemy on 02/05/2013 05:32 PM
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Your right to bear arms law was written in1791 time to update that law asshat gun control is the answer look at canada you can't go into wallmart get a bag of milk some bread and a gun and ammo windsor Ontario is 1 mile from Detroit windsor has 1 murder this year Detroit 430 anf counting looking foward 2 your reply
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29353022


What is the population of Windsor? Are there gangs? Is Windsor a wastland/ I would have to say no, because I've been there. You can't broadly brush a picture of The United States by using a decaying mecca, such as Detroit, or Chicago.

Last Edited by Heavenly Alchemy on 02/05/2013 05:38 PM
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Gun Control freakos surrounded with their armed guards 24/7 while wanting to disarm all law abiding americans these idiots must think their living in a MONARCY and their prilaged nobelemen Typical liberal thinking which is hard for liberals who have no brains