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do not pray for what you NEED...

 
pink cat (OP)

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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
The prayer of St. Francis of Assisi.

Look it up if you do not know it.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


funny, i just bought the biography of her last night :)
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
I never pray for what I need. I prey for what I need. Do you understand me? Pray I never prey on you.
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you mad, bro?

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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
I will try and do better.

Thanks for the advice.

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Thanks OP!

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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
Her?
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
pink cat hiding check out Tom T. Moores book "The Gentle way " Most Benevolent Outcomes MBO's . It works for me !
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
Yes be thankful but
Give us this day our daily bread,
Forgive is a real biggy too.
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Her?
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oops, sorry i got people mixed up.

this is who i bought a biography of last night:

[link to www.littleflower.org]

St. Therese of Lisieux
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
Yes be thankful but
Give us this day our daily bread,
Forgive is a real biggy too.
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yes, forgiveness
that one always trips me up
still working on that one!

i pray to learn to forgive
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Yes be thankful but
Give us this day our daily bread,
Forgive is a real biggy too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9863078


yes, forgiveness
that one always trips me up
still working on that one!

i pray to learn to forgive
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Start small. Get good with that, then go a little bigger.. etc, etc.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
I once prayed to God for a car, but quickly found out he didn't work that way…so I stole a car and prayed for his forgiveness.
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
LoA is a slippery slope. Be careful, by walking that path you can end up losing more than you think. The LoA does seem to work opposite for some, and this was proven with scientific testing. Creation is very powerful, and respect/knowledge is a must.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29412599


perhaps they were saying a positive statement, but thinking
"this doesnt work"
which will negate the positive statement
 Quoting: violet star 29864802


Or it could be how we ask. For example someone praying to avoid divorce. The Universe reacts to what on your mind in which case is "divorce" So "Voilà".
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hf
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I love your username. I am " goofy" for him too- he is everything...
If our ancestors could see us now they would have picked their own damn cotton.
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
what if i need jesus

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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
I once prayed to God for a car, but quickly found out he didn't work that way…so I stole a car and prayed for his forgiveness.
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In which case the Universe provided you with your desire. Even if by means of theft. lol
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
LoA is a slippery slope. Be careful, by walking that path you can end up losing more than you think. The LoA does seem to work opposite for some, and this was proven with scientific testing. Creation is very powerful, and respect/knowledge is a must.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29412599


Interesting. Do you have any links?

It would kinda make sense to me. It seems that good things happen to bad people and bad things to good people. Those who screw people over seem to get ahead fast. I'm still trying to figure out the laws of the universe. There is something deeper we need to pay attention to. And the simple law of attraction does not work like the movie "secret" promised. Of it did, there wouldn't be so many books and shelters out there selling more law of attraction gimmicks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29657187


You wanna figure out the laws of the universe?

Study.

Fucking.

Physics.

And quit trying to find truth in the sales pitches of snake oil salesmen.
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
The prayer of St. Francis of Assisi.

Look it up if you do not know it.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


funny, i just bought the biography of her last night :)
 Quoting: pink cat


And you. You liar. You don't even know who Francis of Assisi is.

Her?! Pft! At least do a google search before you peddle bullshit as reality.
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
...pray to give THANKS for what you have

law of attraction 101.
 Quoting: pink cat


Attraction 101

Attraction
What is the first thing you think about when you hear the word “Attraction.”? I for one almost immediately think of the definition, like all good writers should do. What does attraction mean though? Daniel Webster defines it as, and I quote, “act of attracting, power to attract.” That doesn't really help though does it? So attract means, “1. Draw toward by inherent physical force; cause to cohere with. 2. Invite; allure.” [link to wesleycox.hubpages.com]

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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
I'll use a combination of both. hf
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...pray to give THANKS for what you have

law of attraction 101.
 Quoting: pink cat


of koars, beecheez, did ya need a thread to reveal ya this truth ?!?
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
The prayer of St. Francis of Assisi.

Look it up if you do not know it.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


funny, i just bought the biography of her last night :)
 Quoting: pink cat


Yeah one of those Saints [no, not the New Orleans kind:)] once said that the only true prayer is a prayer of gratitude.

There is some truth in the law of attraction theory, but the universe is NOT just a giant vending machine waiting for you to figure out what kind of 'currency' it requires.

For example if your life lesson is to experience poverty, no amount of rich thinking is gonna make you rich.
The greatest gift you can give anyone is the example of your own life working. -Orin
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hf great thread pink cat

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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
The prayer of St. Francis of Assisi.

Look it up if you do not know it.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


funny, i just bought the biography of her last night :)
 Quoting: pink cat


Yeah one of those Saints [no, not the New Orleans kind:)] once said that the only true prayer is a prayer of gratitude.

There is some truth in the law of attraction theory, but the universe is NOT just a giant vending machine waiting for you to figure out what kind of 'currency' it requires.

For example if your life lesson is to experience poverty, no amount of rich thinking is gonna make you rich.
 Quoting: SuperManny


This was exactly my thoughts when I first watched the DVD on the Law of Attraction. I knew there was something missing from their equation & I figured it out, it does not take into account one's karmic debt in this life. This is why so many people fail at their techniques. It goes against the laws of 3D duality, which means negative + positive experiences.
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
The Bible says to give thanks, pray for others and pray for yourselves. God wants you to come to HIM to provide you with that which you need. Some people haven't been reading their Bibles apparently.
 Quoting: AChristian 29500735


The Bible is not completely accurate

Go INSIDE (meditate) to the Father Fragment within to see if this is what he wants for you.

No need to read a book, when the Father is right there with you at all times
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
LoA is a slippery slope. Be careful, by walking that path you can end up losing more than you think. The LoA does seem to work opposite for some, and this was proven with scientific testing. Creation is very powerful, and respect/knowledge is a must.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29412599


Interesting. Do you have any links?

It would kinda make sense to me. It seems that good things happen to bad people and bad things to good people. Those who screw people over seem to get ahead fast. I'm still trying to figure out the laws of the universe. There is something deeper we need to pay attention to. And the simple law of attraction does not work like the movie "secret" promised. Of it did, there wouldn't be so many books and shelters out there selling more law of attraction gimmicks.
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That is because our subconscious mind can work against us. You may consciously want more money for example but in the back of you mind don't think you are worthy or doubt it will ever happen and therefore it doesn't. We are our own worst enemies. You really have to get to know yourself. Faith is really needed to make this happen and you must feel good about yourself. That takes work.

The Bible even says if you doubt about what you want or pray about it won't happen. The mind is very powerful and it can be very hard to harness. That is why you must start out small with what you want so you can build faith that the law of attraction is real.

Matthew 21:21
Then Jesus told them, "I tell you the truth, if you have faith and don't doubt, you can do things like this and much more. You can even say to this mountain, 'May you be lifted up and thrown into the sea,' and it will happen


James 1:6
But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
Lots of folks pray for stuff they don't need.
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
"Father in heaven, you know my heart better than I do, You know my every desire and secret. Likewise, You see what I need more clearly than I do. I ask for an open heart to receive what You have for me and for You to bless me with what You know I need. Amen"
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
The law of attraction has been in the public domain for at least 100 years. True, only a handful of people were aware of it. And then the movie "the secret" comes along to pad the pockets of smart business men.

Either way, us little people are NO better off since the movie. People are still scrambling trying to figure out what and how to use the Laws of the Universe. The only people benefiting from the laws of the universe are the "insiders," and they ain't gonna tell us sheep how the game gets won.

Therefore, the movie was just a diversion from a bigger truth.

Just focusing on (and feeling) abundance doesn't make you abundant.

LoA is a slippery slope. Be careful, by walking that path you can end up losing more than you think. The LoA does seem to work opposite for some, and this was proven with scientific testing. Creation is very powerful, and respect/knowledge is a must.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29412599


Interesting. Do you have any links?

It would kinda make sense to me. It seems that good things happen to bad people and bad things to good people. Those who screw people over seem to get ahead fast. I'm still trying to figure out the laws of the universe. There is something deeper we need to pay attention to. And the simple law of attraction does not work like the movie "secret" promised. Of it did, there wouldn't be so many books and shelters out there selling more law of attraction gimmicks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29657187


Yes, the Secret is oversimplified commodified mass market garbage to make consumers feel good. But just like organized religion, there are grains of truth amongst the bullshit.

The reason LOA often works in opposite manner is because most people can only focus on their LACK of what they want rather than the feeling of ABUNDANCE that will attract their desires.

Even then, reality is more complex than any system can teach. Simply wishing for something is not enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29888516

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29657187


i have become more positive realizing that negativity makes things no better but worse. I also try to imagine myself doing or having the thing I want. Then I let it go and have faith everything will work out. It is not easy and takes work but I am better off now than I have ever been in many ways. I say during the day 'I am better and better every day in every way" and see what happens as I go about my day. And sometimes life may seem to fall apart before things do get better. That is where faith comes in. It helps a person not to freak out or freak out as much as we realize we can't control everything but have to allow things to just flow while at the same time getting on with life.
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
The prayer of St. Francis of Assisi.

Look it up if you do not know it.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


funny, i just bought the biography of her last night :)
 Quoting: pink cat


Yeah one of those Saints [no, not the New Orleans kind:)] once said that the only true prayer is a prayer of gratitude.

There is some truth in the law of attraction theory, but the universe is NOT just a giant vending machine waiting for you to figure out what kind of 'currency' it requires.

For example if your life lesson is to experience poverty, no amount of rich thinking is gonna make you rich.
 Quoting: SuperManny


This was exactly my thoughts when I first watched the DVD on the Law of Attraction. I knew there was something missing from their equation & I figured it out, it does not take into account one's karmic debt in this life. This is why so many people fail at their techniques. It goes against the laws of 3D duality, which means negative + positive experiences.
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yes, we reap what we sow.
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Re: do not pray for what you NEED...
"Father in heaven, you know my heart better than I do, You know my every desire and secret. Likewise, You see what I need more clearly than I do. I ask for an open heart to receive what You have for me and for You to bless me with what You know I need. Amen"
 Quoting: Life and Love


Yes, it is good to ask God for what we need since He knows us better than we know ourselves.

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