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Both Israel and Thailand allow teachers to carry guns to protect their students. Why not here?

 
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Yep those guns and more guns would have stopped that asshole right in his tracks. Probably wouldn't have had the balls to walk into that school in the first place.
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So you plan arm kindergartens teachers with M-4's, nice... your kids will learn fast

It is unbelievable!crazyyak
 Quoting: Dan_lkd


Do u think this shit would have happened if every teacher in that place was armed? GTFO
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Then the medication riddled teachers would become the shooters.
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Our students would take advantage of that easily..thugs in the schools would go after a gun if they could have access..
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Not if the teachers are well trained. Perhaps they should be taught Krav Maga as well.
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Re: Both Israel and Thailand allow teachers to carry guns to protect their students. Why not here?
here

the fucking idiots make sure schools are gun free zones so psycho's can easily slaughter everyone with no resistance

this is liberal logic at work for you

how much more obvious can it be?

where do all these mass shootings happen?

places where guns are not allowed in the buildings

it's retarded

ARM EVERY ADULT IN THE SCHOOL

that would end this shit FAST
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Arm every eligible adult over 25
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here

the fucking idiots make sure schools are gun free zones so psycho's can easily slaughter everyone with no resistance

this is liberal logic at work for you

how much more obvious can it be?

where do all these mass shootings happen?

places where guns are not allowed in the buildings

it's retarded

ARM EVERY ADULT IN THE SCHOOL

that would end this shit FAST
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Our students would take advantage of that easily..thugs in the schools would go after a gun if they could have access..
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Not if the teachers are well trained. Perhaps they should be taught Krav Maga as well.
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Maybe we should just have the teachers be soldiers.
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Yep those guns and more guns would have stopped that asshole right in his tracks. Probably wouldn't have had the balls to walk into that school in the first place.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


So you plan arm kindergartens teachers with M-4's, nice... your kids will learn fast

It is unbelievable!crazyyak
 Quoting: Dan_lkd


Arm the adults you half wit fucking moron.

You clearly represent the saying, keep your mouth shut and let people assume you are a fool, instead of opening it and proving them right.
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How about all of you knee jerk reactors understand that freedom is dangerous?

You security freaks make me wanna throw up.
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Yep those guns and more guns would have stopped that asshole right in his tracks. Probably wouldn't have had the balls to walk into that school in the first place.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


So you plan arm kindergartens teachers with M-4's, nice... your kids will learn fast

It is unbelievable!crazyyak
 Quoting: Dan_lkd


Arm the adults you half wit fucking moron.

You clearly represent the saying, keep your mouth shut and let people assume you are a fool, instead of opening it and proving them right.
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the fact you people don't think you have a problem is scary.
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If I were a Jew I would carry a gun everywhere I went.
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Our students would take advantage of that easily..thugs in the schools would go after a gun if they could have access..
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Not if the teachers are well trained. Perhaps they should be taught Krav Maga as well.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Maybe we should just have the teachers be soldiers.
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The mere presence of armed people would do a lot to prevent this kind of activity.

People who are deranged, or want to make a statement, do not go into a place where the second they draw a gun they could be confronted and subdued.

They go somewhere where it can be a shooting gallery, like a school.

We don't need super soldiers, we just need ADULTS. Living, breathing, functioning adults. People that are responsible. Not children playing pretend adults being scared of inanimate objects.
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Well if we do that mass shootings wouldn't happen and the Goverment won't be able to go after our guns, and they want to go after our guns and take them away.
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Wow

Such wisdom, the future is assured

We are screwed
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Arm the adults you half wit fucking moron.

You clearly represent the saying, keep your mouth shut and let people assume you are a fool, instead of opening it and proving them right.
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Both Israel and Thailand allow TEACHERS to carry guns to protect their students. Why not here?

TARD!
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I dont know if you have this law in the us but in israel we got 3 guards protacting every school so those kind of things dont happen here even due most people own guns... as for teachers holding guns i dont think its something that can really be done with the liberals in the us there should just be a mandatory 2-3guards at each school would create alot of jobs aswell for vet's.
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Welcome back, TX.

I'm sure there are several states in the USA where it is allowed to carry a gun at schools.

I'm not sure if that is the solution. In Europe, nobody cares guns, especially not in schools.

How often does it happen here? Every blue moon.

"Coincidentally" the countries that allow guns, seem to have the highest number of incidents.
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Yep those guns and more guns would have stopped that asshole right in his tracks. Probably wouldn't have had the balls to walk into that school in the first place.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


So you plan arm kindergartens teachers with M-4's, nice... your kids will learn fast

It is unbelievable!crazyyak
 Quoting: Dan_lkd


Arm the adults you half wit fucking moron.

You clearly represent the saying, keep your mouth shut and let people assume you are a fool, instead of opening it and proving them right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1605411


the fact you people don't think you have a problem is scary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29892348


I'm sorry if you find a free society so scary, but I don't subscribe to your viewpoint and never will.

Shit happens in the world, and the more we go off track as a society, they more shit we are seeing. The incident today has nothing to do with firearms, same as drunk driving not being the fault of the automobile.

It's the fault of the person. It's the fault of the people who would insist that we not be allowed to defend ourselves because if we just wave a magic wand and chant "Guns cannot cross this line magic no gun fairy" that somehow it prevents this kind of activity from happening in the future.

The presence of a gun does not automatically insinuate violence, and a gun doesn't hold magical jedi powers to push someone into murder. You *should* be intelligent enough to understand that.
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I dont know if you have this law in the us but in israel we got 3 guards protacting every school so those kind of things dont happen here even due most people own guns... as for teachers holding guns i dont think its something that can really be done with the liberals in the us there should just be a mandatory 2-3guards at each school would create alot of jobs aswell for vet's.
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That is a great idea cos needless to say what TXGal is proposing is impossible under Hussein's rule !

There should be at least 3 guards at every school and also they should be well armed !
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Our students would take advantage of that easily..thugs in the schools would go after a gun if they could have access..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9927807


Not if the teachers are well trained. Perhaps they should be taught Krav Maga as well.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Maybe we should just have the teachers be soldiers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29859286


The mere presence of armed people would do a lot to prevent this kind of activity.

People who are deranged, or want to make a statement, do not go into a place where the second they draw a gun they could be confronted and subdued.

They go somewhere where it can be a shooting gallery, like a school.

We don't need super soldiers, we just need ADULTS. Living, breathing, functioning adults. People that are responsible. Not children playing pretend adults being scared of inanimate objects.
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Then you twits would cry that our schools look like military bases under martial law.

Give me a fucking break.

Life is dangerous.
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Homeschooling is the ONLY correct answer here.
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There are an estimated 85+ million gun owners in the U.S. with an estimated 270+ million guns.

While it isn't any consolation to the family/friends of murder victims a fraction of 1% of the 270+ million firearms are used in committing murder every year...In 2011 8,583 murders were committed by firearms out of 12,664 murders. Guns might be the weapon of choice but they are not the cause.

Trying to punish or blame 85+ million gun owners for the acts of deranged people who murder isn't going to get anyone anywhere.

Total Murders by year;

2006-15,087

2007-14,916

2008-14,224

2009-13,752

2010-12,996

2011-12,664

Total Murders by firearms

2006-10,225

2007-10,129

2008-9,528

2009-9,199

2010-8,775

2011-8,583

Number of NICS checks per year

2006-10,000,000

2007-11,000,000

2008-12,000,000

2009-14,000,000

2010-14,560,000

2011-15,142,400

I hate to confuse liberals with facts.

I'd be willing to Bet any liberal 1000.00 dollars that the inverse of these facts is real.

Less guns = more crime.
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What do y'all think?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


I think you are insane. Where in Bible does it say that teachers should carry guns? I think you should stick to the good book. Thanks.
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I dont know if you have this law in the us but in israel we got 3 guards protacting every school so those kind of things dont happen here even due most people own guns... as for teachers holding guns i dont think its something that can really be done with the liberals in the us there should just be a mandatory 2-3guards at each school would create alot of jobs aswell for vet's.
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That is a great idea cos needless to say what TXGal is proposing is impossible under Hussein's rule !

There should be at least 3 guards at every school and also they should be well armed !
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Well, there is no better way to condition people to accept a POLICE STATE than to start at our elementary schools.

Sometimes I think you people must try to be stupid.
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Dunblane school massacre
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I said it at lunch one day t school with my other teacher friends. They should give all us teachers gun training. Put lock box on the wall with a shotgun or handgun. Only time it opens is during a lockdown and it has to be done from inside the office.
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I dont know if you have this law in the us but in israel we got 3 guards protacting every school so those kind of things dont happen here even due most people own guns... as for teachers holding guns i dont think its something that can really be done with the liberals in the us there should just be a mandatory 2-3guards at each school would create alot of jobs aswell for vet's.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29694544


That is a great idea cos needless to say what TXGal is proposing is impossible under Hussein's rule !

There should be at least 3 guards at every school and also they should be well armed !
 Quoting: subzero86


Well, there is no better way to condition people to accept a POLICE STATE than to start at our elementary schools.

Sometimes I think you people must try to be stupid.

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ohyeah
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I dont know if you have this law in the us but in israel we got 3 guards protacting every school so those kind of things dont happen here even due most people own guns... as for teachers holding guns i dont think its something that can really be done with the liberals in the us there should just be a mandatory 2-3guards at each school would create alot of jobs aswell for vet's.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29694544


That is a great idea cos needless to say what TXGal is proposing is impossible under Hussein's rule !

There should be at least 3 guards at every school and also they should be well armed !
 Quoting: subzero86


Well, there is no better way to condition people to accept a POLICE STATE than to start at our elementary schools.

Sometimes I think you people must try to be stupid.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29316775


If you can't have the teachers carry guns at least have more people guarding the premise of the schools so lunatics like this won't be able to get in and kill children !

A police state would mean taking the people's right to bear arms !
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Arm the adults you half wit fucking moron.

You clearly represent the saying, keep your mouth shut and let people assume you are a fool, instead of opening it and proving them right.
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Both Israel and Thailand allow TEACHERS to carry guns to protect their students. Why not here?

TARD!
 Quoting: Dan_lkd


Hint hint. The teachers ARE ADULTS.
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5a

Hey T Gal where ya been? As a retired teacher I have mixed feelings about this idea. Let me first say that in the countries you mentioned there is a significant possibility of traditional terrorist attacks and that would be the reason for the policy. Secondly, in Israel most of those teachers have military training which prepares them for this policy. Now to the current issue. My first reaction today was like many of yours if the staff was armed there could have been a far different outcome. I know for damn sure if I was packing and this moron came anywhere near my kids I would have had no hesitation in taking him out. That being said, I am sure you know that packing does not guarantee a person will when the chips are down use the weapon. Remember the old admonition "don't bring a gun unless you are fully prepared to use it" with good reason if you can't the counter party sure as hell will. As for deterence these clowns commit suicide after their acts! Dead is dead whether self inflicted or at someone elses behest.

All that said, I still favor at least allowing those who are trained on the Staff to carry. Admin and Secretaries especially since they usually are the first targets.

There could be a bigger problem here though! That being the issue of initial safety. ALL DOORS in any public school should be LOCKED allowing only access by admission period. The hardware is such that you can open it from the inside to get out but no entry. One door near the office should become the designated point of access during school hours. I fought for this in my District which is not unlike Newtown and it took 10 years and a State Law to finally bring it about. This would at least perhaps provide some safety if not a period to react.
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What do y'all think?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


This idea is not just bordering on idiotic, its wholly provincial of it. We're a supposedly first world country, not a fucking stone age civilization you idiot. More guns is not an answer for gun violence. If you had a drug problem, would a solution be to give all of your friends drugs?
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I wonder why some 90% of all gun people in the U.S. are Christians? Does it have something to do with your faith?

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