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Both Israel and Thailand allow teachers to carry guns to protect their students. Why not here?

 
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What do y'all think?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


This idea is not just bordering on idiotic, its wholly provincial of it. We're a supposedly first world country, not a fucking stone age civilization you idiot. More guns is not an answer for gun violence. If you had a drug problem, would a solution be to give all of your friends drugs?
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The mere presence of armed people would do a lot to prevent this kind of activity.

People who are deranged, or want to make a statement, do not go into a place where the second they draw a gun they could be confronted and subdued.

They go somewhere where it can be a shooting gallery, like a school.

We don't need super soldiers, we just need ADULTS. Living, breathing, functioning adults. People that are responsible. Not children playing pretend adults being scared of inanimate objects.

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So, let me get this right.

Classroom teacher(s) armed with a concealed handgun would subdue a "deranged", motivated, trained and gun obsessed nut who is likely to have (because it's everyones right to own this cool stuff, duh) military standard body armour, loads of tank piercing ammunition and enough high calibre weapons to supply a small army.

Oh yeah, that will work...

Maybe arm the kids too.

We need more guns, for everyone, that's the answer :(
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What do y'all think?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


I think you are insane. Where in Bible does it say that teachers should carry guns? I think you should stick to the good book. Thanks.
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Is a sword better for ya ac? I do recall Christ saying something about buying a sword.

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The mere presence of armed people would do a lot to prevent this kind of activity.

People who are deranged, or want to make a statement, do not go into a place where the second they draw a gun they could be confronted and subdued.

They go somewhere where it can be a shooting gallery, like a school.

We don't need super soldiers, we just need ADULTS. Living, breathing, functioning adults. People that are responsible. Not children playing pretend adults being scared of inanimate objects.

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So, let me get this right.

Classroom teacher(s) armed with a concealed handgun would subdue a "deranged", motivated, trained and gun obsessed nut who is likely to have (because it's everyones right to own this cool stuff, duh) military standard body armour, loads of tank piercing ammunition and enough high calibre weapons to supply a small army.

Oh yeah, that will work...

Maybe arm the kids too.

We need more guns, for everyone, that's the answer :(


You sir are a fucking retard. These guys are using 9mms and at worst AR's. Most of them have no shooting expierence at all. Put me up against them with my concealed weapon in a small building like that and I will win every time.
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The mere presence of armed people would do a lot to prevent this kind of activity.

People who are deranged, or want to make a statement, do not go into a place where the second they draw a gun they could be confronted and subdued.

They go somewhere where it can be a shooting gallery, like a school.

We don't need super soldiers, we just need ADULTS. Living, breathing, functioning adults. People that are responsible. Not children playing pretend adults being scared of inanimate objects.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22721955

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So, let me get this right.

Classroom teacher(s) armed with a concealed handgun would subdue a "deranged", motivated, trained and gun obsessed nut who is likely to have (because it's everyones right to own this cool stuff, duh) military standard body armour, loads of tank piercing ammunition and enough high calibre weapons to supply a small army.

Oh yeah, that will work...

Maybe arm the kids too.

We need more guns, for everyone, that's the answer :(


You sir are a fucking retard. These guys are using 9mms and at worst AR's. Most of them have no shooting expierence at all. Put me up against them with my concealed weapon in a small building like that and I will win every time.



This isn't a movie there champ. I don't care who you think you are or how experienced you think you are, lobbing more gunfire in a chaotic situation like that will almost certainly end in more harm/death for others. Sit the fuck down.
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What do y'all think?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


I think you are insane. Where in Bible does it say that teachers should carry guns? I think you should stick to the good book. Thanks.
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Speaking of the "good book", Oklahoma's putting the 10 Commandments back up on the school walls, soon. We've been in a state of moral decline ever since they were removed, back in the mid-60's. That one about, "Thou shalt not kill", is more correctly intrepreted, "Thou shalt not MURDER". Murder implies intent, born in the depths of a depraved soul. It doesn't matter if it's a gun, a knife, a rock, a stick, or your bare hands. If the intent is there, the depraved soul will find a way to achieve its desired end. We don't need gun control--we need soul reform. And in the meantime, I'd take those armed school guards, and even armed teachers. But, here in the U.S., teachers won't go for it--the them-being-armed part, that is. Too bad.
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 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


This idea is not just bordering on idiotic, its wholly provincial of it. We're a supposedly first world country, not a fucking stone age civilization you idiot. More guns is not an answer for gun violence. If you had a drug problem, would a solution be to give all of your friends drugs?
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5a

You and I see the problem somewhat differently. I think we have a people problem. I have never heard of any gun lieing on a flat surface UNMOLESTED suddenly going off and killing someone have you? I'm afraid I can't buy the spoiled apple in a barrel routine on this issue.
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You sir are a fucking retard. These guys are using 9mms and at worst AR's. Most of them have no shooting expierence at all. Put me up against them with my concealed weapon in a small building like that and I will win every time.
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this is the problem with Americans.
some of ya'll are delusional thinking you're some hot cock cowboy in a western...

crazy
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Why not have armed security personnel, at least two at every school?
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I would never send my child to a school where teachers can carry guns. Our teachers can't carry guns here either but we also don't need them to. Toughen up your gun laws & you will find there is a huge drop in gun crime simply because less people in the general population will be allowed to have them.
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 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


This idea is not just bordering on idiotic, its wholly provincial of it. We're a supposedly first world country, not a fucking stone age civilization you idiot. More guns is not an answer for gun violence. If you had a drug problem, would a solution be to give all of your friends drugs?
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5a

You and I see the problem somewhat differently. I think we have a people problem. I have never heard of any gun lieing on a flat surface UNMOLESTED suddenly going off and killing someone have you? I'm afraid I can't buy the spoiled apple in a barrel routine on this issue.
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Sell guns as show pieces then, if all you want them to do is just lay there. No need to use them. Short of that, we need a serious talk about gun control in this country. This is 2 tragedies in about 2 weeks, its insane to keep ignoring this.

More tests for gun ownership. Deep background checks. Those seeking ownership must pass psych exams. Those wishing to own one must take a long and rigorous safety course. Put locks on guns so they can't be used by those who haven't registered them. GPS tracking. For those just hunting, promote renting rather than owning. All simple solutions.
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Every once in awhile you'll see a sign that says" Concealed carry holders welcome in this store" And that's the safest place u can be. The places that ban firearms are the shooting galleries.....
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Why not have armed security personnel, at least two at every school?
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There were armed personnel at my school-let me tell you they would have been of no use. All they did was sit in the office and hit on the secretary. Badge doesn't change the breed.

Need a serious talk about gun control, not these weak ass 'patches' that don't deal with the problem at its root.
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Why not have armed security personnel, at least two at every school?
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Yep. Or 3 like the person from Israel mentioned earlier.
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Having only one set of doors open throughout the day and everybody who comes in is checked would work too.

This isn't that difficult of a problem to tackle.
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Why not have armed security personnel, at least two at every school?
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Having only one set of doors open throughout the day and everybody who comes in is checked would work too.

This isn't that difficult of a problem to tackle.
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Yet you've still stumbled upon the wrong solution...
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TX!!!

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Hey girlie! I missed all of y'all, even the trolls!

;-)
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Why not have armed security personnel, at least two at every school?
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Having only one set of doors open throughout the day and everybody who comes in is checked would work too.

This isn't that difficult of a problem to tackle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29859286


Yet you've still stumbled upon the wrong solution...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6850261


Yeah, I've read your "solution".

You're a knee jerk reaction idiot just like the anti second amendment jackasses.

Being a slave to your emotions must suck.
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12/14/2012 05:41 PM
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What do y'all think?
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School superintendents in the US typically earn between $250,000 to 1,000,000 a year, yet they can't afford guards at schools.

They got their priorities screwed up bad.

Why not have fathers volunteer to be armed and guard the schools? I would gladly defend my child's school, but of course i don't wear a gov clown suit so I can't be trusted.

More people should carry weapons, then criminals will be too afraid to commit these acts as there would always be someone to stop them.

Apparently everyone is too stupid to recognize that "gun free zones" are the only places this shit happens
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There are an estimated 85+ million gun owners in the U.S. with an estimated 270+ million guns.

While it isn't any consolation to the family/friends of murder victims a fraction of 1% of the 270+ million firearms are used in committing murder every year...In 2011 8,583 murders were committed by firearms out of 12,664 murders. Guns might be the weapon of choice but they are not the cause.

Trying to punish or blame 85+ million gun owners for the acts of deranged people who murder isn't going to get anyone anywhere.

Total Murders by year;

2006-15,087

2007-14,916

2008-14,224

2009-13,752

2010-12,996

2011-12,664

Total Murders by firearms

2006-10,225

2007-10,129

2008-9,528

2009-9,199

2010-8,775

2011-8,583

Number of NICS checks per year

2006-10,000,000

2007-11,000,000

2008-12,000,000

2009-14,000,000

2010-14,560,000

2011-15,142,400

I hate to confuse liberals with facts.

I'd be willing to Bet any liberal 1000.00 dollars that the inverse of these facts is real.

Less guns = more crime.
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I see you bet a libtard. Do you accept ebt? That's the only way they pay.
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What do y'all think?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


I think you are insane. Where in Bible does it say that teachers should carry guns? I think you should stick to the good book. Thanks.
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Is a sword better for ya ac? I do recall Christ saying something about buying a sword.

SMH
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Did he mean it literally?
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Why not have armed security personnel, at least two at every school?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29898248


Having only one set of doors open throughout the day and everybody who comes in is checked would work too.

This isn't that difficult of a problem to tackle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29859286


Yet you've still stumbled upon the wrong solution...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6850261


Yeah, I've read your "solution".

You're a knee jerk reaction idiot just like the anti second amendment jackasses.

Being a slave to your emotions must suck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29859286


I never proposed an outright banning of guns, jackass. Try to aim for comprehension next time. Let me reiterate since it was obviously lost on you: stricter controls are a good thing. Some news outlets have indicated that these guns weren't even his--a nice mechanism that disarmed the gun if its being used by an outside party would have been nice in this case, yes? God you right wingers are pathetic.
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What do y'all think?
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


This idea is not just bordering on idiotic, its wholly provincial of it. We're a supposedly first world country, not a fucking stone age civilization you idiot. More guns is not an answer for gun violence. If you had a drug problem, would a solution be to give all of your friends drugs?
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5a

You and I see the problem somewhat differently. I think we have a people problem. I have never heard of any gun lieing on a flat surface UNMOLESTED suddenly going off and killing someone have you? I'm afraid I can't buy the spoiled apple in a barrel routine on this issue.
 Quoting: ANNONYMOUS 8415236


Sell guns as show pieces then, if all you want them to do is just lay there. No need to use them. Short of that, we need a serious talk about gun control in this country. This is 2 tragedies in about 2 weeks, its insane to keep ignoring this.

More tests for gun ownership. Deep background checks. Those seeking ownership must pass psych exams. Those wishing to own one must take a long and rigorous safety course. Put locks on guns so they can't be used by those who haven't registered them. GPS tracking. For those just hunting, promote renting rather than owning. All simple solutions.
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tell that horseshit to mexico..gun control means only criminals will have guns and there will be an unlimited kill zone as no one would ever be able to defend themselves.. You gun morons are too stupid to see the truth
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why was the young man so disturbed to take life like that. that is where the problem began. guns were all around me when i grew up but you never heard of these things. so what the fuck is going on?
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why was the young man so disturbed to take life like that. that is where the problem began. guns were all around me when i grew up but you never heard of these things. so what the fuck is going on?
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I blame it on the hip hop
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Having only one set of doors open throughout the day and everybody who comes in is checked would work too.

This isn't that difficult of a problem to tackle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29859286


Yet you've still stumbled upon the wrong solution...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6850261


Yeah, I've read your "solution".

You're a knee jerk reaction idiot just like the anti second amendment jackasses.

Being a slave to your emotions must suck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29859286


I never proposed an outright banning of guns, jackass. Try to aim for comprehension next time. Let me reiterate since it was obviously lost on you: stricter controls are a good thing. Some news outlets have indicated that these guns weren't even his--a nice mechanism that disarmed the gun if its being used by an outside party would have been nice in this case, yes? God you right wingers are pathetic.
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I never said you did. I simply compared your knee jerk reaction to theirs.

See? There you go letting your emotions rule your comments and your life again.

It must suck.
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why was the young man so disturbed to take life like that. that is where the problem began. guns were all around me when i grew up but you never heard of these things. so what the fuck is going on?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29852632


School shootings have been a problem throughout history:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Theres a common theme and you're right on one of them--deranged individuals, and the other one is guns. We can control both, this is not a one or the other situation. More mental health services for those in need and stricter gun controls to keep these weapons out of the hands of those that simply cannot be trusted.
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Yet you've still stumbled upon the wrong solution...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6850261


Yeah, I've read your "solution".

You're a knee jerk reaction idiot just like the anti second amendment jackasses.

Being a slave to your emotions must suck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29859286


I never proposed an outright banning of guns, jackass. Try to aim for comprehension next time. Let me reiterate since it was obviously lost on you: stricter controls are a good thing. Some news outlets have indicated that these guns weren't even his--a nice mechanism that disarmed the gun if its being used by an outside party would have been nice in this case, yes? God you right wingers are pathetic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6850261


I never said you did. I simply compared your knee jerk reaction to theirs.

See? There you go letting your emotions rule your comments and your life again.

It must suck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29859286


Don't try to play the semantics game, I'm smarter than you. You likened me to "the anti second amendment jackasses."
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THANK YOU!!! Thats EXACTLY what I said earlier! The former FBI LT. on the news said quote " Many cities do have an officer thats assigned to the schools BUT THEY CANT STAY ALL DAY due to the fact that they inly have between 8-15 cops in the cities due to budget cuts!!!!
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